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The Borax Conspiracy How the Arthritis Cure has been Stopped Walter Last

 
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This is a very good article about curing with Borax

[link to www.health-science-spirit.com]

You may not be able to imagine that borax, this humble insecticide and laundry detergent, has the potential of singlehandedly bringing down our entire economic system. But you do not need to worry, the danger has been recognised and the necessary steps are already being taken to defuse the situation. I will start with the basics and you will understand what I mean as the story unfolds.

Borax is a naturally occurring and mined mineral salt and the source of other manufactured boron compounds. The main deposits are in Turkey and California. Chemical names are sodium tetraborate decahydrate, disodium tetraborate decahydrate, or simply sodium borate. This means it contains four atoms of boron as its central feature combined with two sodium atoms and ten molecules (or sometimes less) of crystallisation water. All borax is naturally mined, there is no synthetic borax, the difference is only how much crystallisation water it contains - decahydrate means 10 water molecules, pentahydrate means 5, and anhydrite means 0 water; chemically it is all the same.
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This is such a good article and it should be read by anyone who suffers from arthritis.
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It is also very effective in many skin problem, fluorosis, Candida, and the list goes on.

No there is no doom here, only a little help for some.
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I know it says its cool, but I'm still a little iffy on consuming something that makes my laundery work better.

I use borax in all loads of laundry I do. It really does work well.

The funny thing is the only reason I bought it was to teach my sons about polymers (made bouncy balls).

Now i use it on a near daily basis as a cleaning agent.

Dont quite know about eating it though....
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This is a very good article about curing with Borax

[link to www.health-science-spirit.com]

You may not be able to imagine that borax, this humble insecticide and laundry detergent, has the potential of singlehandedly bringing down our entire economic system. But you do not need to worry, the danger has been recognised and the necessary steps are already being taken to defuse the situation. I will start with the basics and you will understand what I mean as the story unfolds.

Borax is a naturally occurring and mined mineral salt and the source of other manufactured boron compounds. The main deposits are in Turkey and California. Chemical names are sodium tetraborate decahydrate, disodium tetraborate decahydrate, or simply sodium borate. This means it contains four atoms of boron as its central feature combined with two sodium atoms and ten molecules (or sometimes less) of crystallisation water. All borax is naturally mined, there is no synthetic borax, the difference is only how much crystallisation water it contains - decahydrate means 10 water molecules, pentahydrate means 5, and anhydrite means 0 water; chemically it is all the same.
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that must be why its so hard to fimd. i also read something about soaking in it will defuse mogelions fungus, and other fugus. thank you for reminding me.luvstruk

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I know it says its cool, but I'm still a little iffy on consuming something that makes my laundery work better.

I use borax in all loads of laundry I do. It really does work well.

The funny thing is the only reason I bought it was to teach my sons about polymers (made bouncy balls).

Now i use it on a near daily basis as a cleaning agent.

Dont quite know about eating it though....
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I first read the article in Nexus magazine(always good scientific research) and it really peaked my curiosity.

I am definetly going to give it a try. I do have a little rosacea and some arthritis. Will try the dosage the article suggests and will write my discovery.
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This is a very good article about curing with Borax

[link to www.health-science-spirit.com]

You may not be able to imagine that borax, this humble insecticide and laundry detergent, has the potential of singlehandedly bringing down our entire economic system. But you do not need to worry, the danger has been recognised and the necessary steps are already being taken to defuse the situation. I will start with the basics and you will understand what I mean as the story unfolds.

Borax is a naturally occurring and mined mineral salt and the source of other manufactured boron compounds. The main deposits are in Turkey and California. Chemical names are sodium tetraborate decahydrate, disodium tetraborate decahydrate, or simply sodium borate. This means it contains four atoms of boron as its central feature combined with two sodium atoms and ten molecules (or sometimes less) of crystallisation water. All borax is naturally mined, there is no synthetic borax, the difference is only how much crystallisation water it contains - decahydrate means 10 water molecules, pentahydrate means 5, and anhydrite means 0 water; chemically it is all the same.
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that must be why its so hard to fimd. i also read something about soaking in it will defuse mogelions fungus, and other fugus. thank you for reminding me.luvstruk
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Damn, 1000 thanks OP!!

Will definitely look into this. I've known the benefits or backing soda and vinegar, but the first I've heard of using borax for more that just a cleaner or insecticide.
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For those of us that have reservations about ingesting a cleaning product...have you tried this yourself? I am only 39 and already showing some signs of arthritis in my spine and finger joints. I love the idea of natural vs. chemical treatments. I would be scared to drink Borax though, only because I've done experiments with my children with it and I've seen what can happen when you mix it with glue and water, lol. In all seriousness, I would love to try this and would like to know if you've personally tried it yourself and if so, what were your results? Thank you for the article, it is full of great and useful information.
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For those of us that have reservations about ingesting a cleaning product...have you tried this yourself? I am only 39 and already showing some signs of arthritis in my spine and finger joints. I love the idea of natural vs. chemical treatments. I would be scared to drink Borax though, only because I've done experiments with my children with it and I've seen what can happen when you mix it with glue and water, lol. In all seriousness, I would love to try this and would like to know if you've personally tried it yourself and if so, what were your results? Thank you for the article, it is full of great and useful information.
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I just read the article but I plan on giving it a try.

In it is says to use 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon (women requires low dose 1/8 then men 1/4 because of their size) per liter of water,determine if that remedy is helping you, and it doesn't require a long time, you should know within 3 to 7 days at the most

But if you have questions go to the article I listed and read it for yourself.
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between borax and baking soda as well as many other naturally occurring "salts" we wouldn't need so many garbage products and medicines.
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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
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5 stars and a bump for a great article!
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I have known about the Borax for quite awhile now, and even drank it mixed in water a few times, but I didn't stay consistent with it. You've reminded me that I'm at a point in my life where I should try it again.

There are some posts on Earthclinic that have pros and cons from people that have used it:
[link to www.earthclinic.com]
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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
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Start taking baking soda to get yourself alkaline. You are too acid and your body is leaching the calcium from your bones to try to get you more alkaline. Vegetables will help with alkalinity but most of us don't eat enough and are just under too much stress for them to keep us alkaline.

Take 1/2 teaspoon in water in the morning and the evening. At least 30 minutes after or before eating. This should help with your arthritis so your bones can start repairing themselves. You can take this three times a day if you like for at least a week or so and then go down to twice a day. You can also buy urine test strips to test the alkalinity of your urine. It should be between a 7 and 8. Anyway, twice a day should be fine and works for most people.
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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
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Start taking baking soda to get yourself alkaline. You are too acid and your body is leaching the calcium from your bones to try to get you more alkaline. Vegetables will help with alkalinity but most of us don't eat enough and are just under too much stress for them to keep us alkaline.

Take 1/2 teaspoon in water in the morning and the evening. At least 30 minutes after or before eating. This should help with your arthritis so your bones can start repairing themselves. You can take this three times a day if you like for at least a week or so and then go down to twice a day. You can also buy urine test strips to test the alkalinity of your urine. It should be between a 7 and 8. Anyway, twice a day should be fine and works for most people.
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I already take baking soda, although not as regularly as I should. I also take coral calcium and magnesium. This with borax should help my joints and bones, I think. I'm sure my body is not acidic with all that, but I'm thinking borax might make the whole package work.
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!
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I have it bad, AS ankylosing spodylitis, it is so bad I want to kill myself as soon as my grandson does not need me so much. The contant unbearable pain. I want to know everything about this, baking soda did not help. I am also sceptical about using my cleaning powder in my water.
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I like to add it to my bath water. It makes the water feel wonderful, and my skin can take in any of it that it needs during the long soak.

Plus, I don't have to clean the hard water stains off my tub anymore. hf
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For those of us that have reservations about ingesting a cleaning product...have you tried this yourself? I am only 39 and already showing some signs of arthritis in my spine and finger joints. I love the idea of natural vs. chemical treatments. I would be scared to drink Borax though, only because I've done experiments with my children with it and I've seen what can happen when you mix it with glue and water, lol. In all seriousness, I would love to try this and would like to know if you've personally tried it yourself and if so, what were your results? Thank you for the article, it is full of great and useful information.
 Quoting: wesang


I just read the article but I plan on giving it a try.

In it is says to use 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon (women requires low dose 1/8 then men 1/4 because of their size) per liter of water,determine if that remedy is helping you, and it doesn't require a long time, you should know within 3 to 7 days at the most

But if you have questions go to the article I listed and read it for yourself.
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if a person has systemic candidia though its best to make the one liter with the quarter teaspoon. then from that only take a teaspoon or a tablespoon a day for a while increasing. die off of candidia is so extreme. and yes this will kill it off fast. and including athletes foot. if soaked in it. it says I think one cup. but I barely used a quarter cup soaked feet in it for five min. the athetes foot went away but the die off was extreme!
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Used it to cure my morgelions infection a few years ago: boric acid 2 teaspoons, bakeing soda 2 tablespoons, and copper sulfate 1 teaspoon in a gallon of water......drink 8 ounces a day..................it worked and it didn't kill me, but I haven't a clue as to what it will do to you
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Go figure !
I've been using borax for years as a forging flux and insecticide. Wish I'd known I could eat it too, maybe my shoulders and back would be in better shape. You can bet the feds will be on this if it's cutting into big pharma profits. A 25 pound bag will last a lifetime and it's cheap . Good post OP.
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I have it bad, AS ankylosing spodylitis, it is so bad I want to kill myself as soon as my grandson does not need me so much. The contant unbearable pain. I want to know everything about this, baking soda did not help. I am also sceptical about using my cleaning powder in my water.
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I think you should try the borax. I'm going to!

Vinegar is also a cleaning agent but we also use it on our salads, in relishes and anything pickled.
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!
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Thanks for the heads up on this
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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
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serrapeptase...
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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
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serrapeptase...
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Could you please expand on this
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