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The Borax Conspiracy How the Arthritis Cure has been Stopped Walter Last

 
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I just went to the store that I purchased my last box of Borax and it was nowhere to be found.
I asked a woman who was stocking the cleaning aisle where I purchased it previously and her response was.

"What's Borax? What do you use if for?"

To paraphrase, I said: "It's good for everything from cleaning to gardening to health but then I can see why you wouldn't carry it anymore because it does what most of these other products claim for less than half the price"
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I just went to the store that I purchased my last box of Borax and it was nowhere to be found.
I asked a woman who was stocking the cleaning aisle where I purchased it previously and her response was.

"What's Borax? What do you use if for?"

To paraphrase, I said: "It's good for everything from cleaning to gardening to health but then I can see why you wouldn't carry it anymore because it does what most of these other products claim for less than half the price"
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wtfI just bought a 2lb. box TODAY for $1.69!
You can still buy it in america at least for the time being.
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I just went to the store that I purchased my last box of Borax and it was nowhere to be found.
I asked a woman who was stocking the cleaning aisle where I purchased it previously and her response was.

"What's Borax? What do you use if for?"

To paraphrase, I said: "It's good for everything from cleaning to gardening to health but then I can see why you wouldn't carry it anymore because it does what most of these other products claim for less than half the price"
angry2
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wtfI just bought a 2lb. box TODAY for $1.69!
You can still buy it in america at least for the time being.
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Exactly. Retailers make squat off of it. Why would they carry the ultimate product at the ultimately low price?

I was simply sharing an example from personal experience.
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I just went to the store that I purchased my last box of Borax and it was nowhere to be found.
I asked a woman who was stocking the cleaning aisle where I purchased it previously and her response was.

"What's Borax? What do you use if for?"

To paraphrase, I said: "It's good for everything from cleaning to gardening to health but then I can see why you wouldn't carry it anymore because it does what most of these other products claim for less than half the price"
angry2
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wtfI just bought a 2lb. box TODAY for $1.69!
You can still buy it in america at least for the time being.
 Quoting: weasel keeper


Exactly. Retailers make squat off of it. Why would they carry the ultimate product at the ultimately low price?

I was simply sharing an example from personal experience.
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Don't hand me that crap, we both know there's no borax shortage,stir..you know you're full of shit, admit it, Munchausen.
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
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serrapeptase...
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I've used borax before, and it's good for some things, but I was going to recommend serrapeptase too. I've been using it for 4 weeks now and am quite happy with the results. I noticed some changes right away, but I've had better results after increasing the dosage. There's not really a specific dosage for it. You have to experiment with it and see what works best for you. This is a very good article on systemic enzymes, which is what serrapeptase is.
[link to www.newswithviews.com]
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!
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I'm pretty sure you mean baking POWDER has aluminum and you can find some baking POWDERs labeled as aluminum-free.

However, baking SODA does NOT have aluminum in it. This can be easily researched and confirmed.
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!
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Thanks for the heads up on this
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Baking POWDER has aluminum not baking SODA.
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This is such a good article and it should be read by anyone who suffers from arthritis.
 Quoting: Orsolja

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BORAX (Boron) is an incredibly important supplement.

It not only cures arthritis.

Please read the entire article everyone.


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I have done some research on borax, and this seams to be legit. I have a doctor that is open to alternative cures looking into it deeper. From the article, it sounds like a boron suppliment would work, except it doesn't have the antiviral or antifungal properties. If you are just trying to cure arthritis or osteoporosis, the boron should work just as well. I will be trying this. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body. Now arthritis is becoming a concern. Every injury from the last half century is coming back to haunt me. This could be exactly what I have been looking for.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


serrapeptase...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22292694


I've used borax before, and it's good for some things, but I was going to recommend serrapeptase too. I've been using it for 4 weeks now and am quite happy with the results. I noticed some changes right away, but I've had better results after increasing the dosage. There's not really a specific dosage for it. You have to experiment with it and see what works best for you. This is a very good article on systemic enzymes, which is what serrapeptase is.
[link to www.newswithviews.com]
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How expensive is this product?
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the EU banned it 2 years ago because some rats got infertile on mega doses. now it's impossible to purchase it as a private person. must be something to the health claims. just like lugol's and sodium chlorite.
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22761774


No cells AT ALL can live in an alkaline body (or an acidic one either for the same reason).
The consumption of baking soda will not alkalize your body at all.

Cancer is a fungus?
Now you are really joking aren't you?
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This is such a good article and it should be read by anyone who suffers from arthritis.
 Quoting: Orsolja

.

BORAX (Boron) is an incredibly important supplement.

It not only cures arthritis.

Please read the entire article everyone.


.
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


From the article:

"Subsequently he published several scientific papers on borax and arthritis. One was a double-blind trial in the mid 1980's at the Royal Melbourne Hospital which showed that 70% of those who completed the trial were greatly improved. Only 12% improved when on placebo. There were no negative side-effects, but some reported that their heart ailment had also improved, and there was better general health and less tiredness. (3)"
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Is this the same as ingesting Borax?

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Thank you OP

THANK YOU!


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I have it bad, AS ankylosing spodylitis, it is so bad I want to kill myself as soon as my grandson does not need me so much. The contant unbearable pain. I want to know everything about this, baking soda did not help. I am also sceptical about using my cleaning powder in my water.
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There is a nice solution...but first you have research Edgar Cayce
.

Cayce was a devout soul who got gifted based on his prayers.

Cayce always promoted Peanut Oil for arthritis...as a topical salve...meaning you apply it to skin covering the joint that is inflamed.

Followers of Cayce are online and you can find the answers to a lot of health problems that western medicine prefers to ignore because the medical model only treats symptoms without focus on the entire body's ability to balance and remove what is not needed.

Most people don't have the discipline to follow Cayce's course of care?

People prefer to suffer or remain ignorant?

It's your choice to believe there is no hope.
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22761774


No cells AT ALL can live in an alkaline body (or an acidic one either for the same reason).
The consumption of baking soda will not alkalize your body at all.

Cancer is a fungus?
Now you are really joking aren't you?
 Quoting: Cahill


You must work for big Pharma.
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This is such a good article and it should be read by anyone who suffers from arthritis.
 Quoting: Orsolja

.

BORAX (Boron) is an incredibly important supplement.

It not only cures arthritis.

Please read the entire article everyone.


.
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


From the article:

"Subsequently he published several scientific papers on borax and arthritis. One was a double-blind trial in the mid 1980's at the Royal Melbourne Hospital which showed that 70% of those who completed the trial were greatly improved. Only 12% improved when on placebo. There were no negative side-effects, but some reported that their heart ailment had also improved, and there was better general health and less tiredness. (3)"
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I've just read that "scientific paper" and being used to reading such papers as part of my job, that one really doesn't look right at all. Very odd indeed.
It's more like an advertisement for his Borex tablets than a proper paper.

I'm not saying that borax is good or bad for you (although it certainly will make you sick if you have even just a little too much) but that paper isn't worth the paper it's written on.
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22761774


No cells AT ALL can live in an alkaline body (or an acidic one either for the same reason).
The consumption of baking soda will not alkalize your body at all.

Cancer is a fungus?
Now you are really joking aren't you?
 Quoting: Cahill


You must work for big Pharma.
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Why do you think that?
Because I understand human physiology?
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I don't want to put a damper on anyone's beliefs here but only want to input some useful knowledge.

Do not use Arm and Hammer as it contains aluminum. They claim it does not but under chemical examination, it does, and aluminum is a heavy metal. Get Bob's Red Mill backing soda and powder either online or your natural food store. It is pure.

Keeping in mind that no disease can live in an alkaline body, the consumption of baking soda will help alkalize your body, along with the proper foods. Cancer is a fungus and oxygen is its enemy.

Enjoy!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22761774


No cells AT ALL can live in an alkaline body (or an acidic one either for the same reason).
The consumption of baking soda will not alkalize your body at all.

Cancer is a fungus?
Now you are really joking aren't you?
 Quoting: Cahill


You must work for big Pharma.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


Why do you think that?
Because I understand human physiology?
 Quoting: Cahill


What is your line of work?
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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No cells AT ALL can live in an alkaline body (or an acidic one either for the same reason).
The consumption of baking soda will not alkalize your body at all.

Cancer is a fungus?
Now you are really joking aren't you?
 Quoting: Cahill


You must work for big Pharma.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


Why do you think that?
Because I understand human physiology?
 Quoting: Cahill


What is your line of work?
 Quoting: Alien Technologist


Cardiovascular physiology and medical physics.
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This is such a good article and it should be read by anyone who suffers from arthritis.
 Quoting: Orsolja

.

BORAX (Boron) is an incredibly important supplement.

It not only cures arthritis.

Please read the entire article everyone.


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 Quoting: I Ban Thee


From the article:

"Subsequently he published several scientific papers on borax and arthritis. One was a double-blind trial in the mid 1980's at the Royal Melbourne Hospital which showed that 70% of those who completed the trial were greatly improved. Only 12% improved when on placebo. There were no negative side-effects, but some reported that their heart ailment had also improved, and there was better general health and less tiredness. (3)"
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I've just read that "scientific paper" and being used to reading such papers as part of my job, that one really doesn't look right at all. Very odd indeed.
It's more like an advertisement for his Borex tablets than a proper paper.

I'm not saying that borax is good or bad for you (although it certainly will make you sick if you have even just a little too much) but that paper isn't worth the paper it's written on.
 Quoting: Cahill


OK, Dr Phil's uncle.
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You must work for big Pharma.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


Why do you think that?
Because I understand human physiology?
 Quoting: Cahill


What is your line of work?
 Quoting: Alien Technologist


Cardiovascular physiology and medical physics.
 Quoting: Cahill


especially on the internets:)
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BORAX (Boron) is an incredibly important supplement.

It not only cures arthritis.

Please read the entire article everyone.


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 Quoting: I Ban Thee


From the article:

"Subsequently he published several scientific papers on borax and arthritis. One was a double-blind trial in the mid 1980's at the Royal Melbourne Hospital which showed that 70% of those who completed the trial were greatly improved. Only 12% improved when on placebo. There were no negative side-effects, but some reported that their heart ailment had also improved, and there was better general health and less tiredness. (3)"
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I've just read that "scientific paper" and being used to reading such papers as part of my job, that one really doesn't look right at all. Very odd indeed.
It's more like an advertisement for his Borex tablets than a proper paper.

I'm not saying that borax is good or bad for you (although it certainly will make you sick if you have even just a little too much) but that paper isn't worth the paper it's written on.
 Quoting: Cahill


OK, Dr Phil's uncle.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Fine.
Believe what you will.
Like I said, I don't know whether borax is good for you or not but that paper's certainly wouldn't convince me of anything. Other than the author put it together in about 10 minutes.
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How Does Borax Clean?
Chemistry of Borax or Sodium Borate

By Anne Marie Helmenstine, Ph.D., About.com Guide
Anne has taught chemistry, biology, and physics at the high school, college, and graduate level. In her doctoral work, Anne developed ultra-sensitive chemical detection and medical diagnostic tests. She has worked abstracting/indexing diverse scientific literature for the Department of Energy. She presently works as a freelance writer and scientific consultant. She enjoys adapting lab-based science projects so that they can be performed safely at home.

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...in the home borax is used as a natural laundry booster, multipurpose cleaner, fungicide, preservative, insecticide, herbicide, disinfectant, dessicant, and ingredient in making 'slime'. Borax crystals are odorless, whitish (can have various color impurities), and alkaline. Borax is not flammable and is not reactive. It can be mixed with most other cleaning agents, including chlorine bleach.

It can be used as a fungicide and preservative.
If it can be used as a preservative than how can it be harmful?
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You must work for big Pharma.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


Why do you think that?
Because I understand human physiology?
 Quoting: Cahill


What is your line of work?
 Quoting: Alien Technologist


Cardiovascular physiology and medical physics.
 Quoting: Cahill


You don't know if it is good for you are not? and you say you are a physiologist and medical physicist???
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Thanks for the post OP. I went to the store and got some borax, mixed it up just like the article instructed, I was a little surprised that there was no taste at all, anyone else notice this?
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Why do CAHILL's posts come up as HIDDEN on this thread?

Does anyone know?
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Why do you think that?
Because I understand human physiology?
 Quoting: Cahill


What is your line of work?
 Quoting: Alien Technologist


Cardiovascular physiology and medical physics.
 Quoting: Cahill


You don't know if it is good for you are not? and you say you are a physiologist and medical physicist???
 Quoting: Orsolja


Why do CAHILL's posts come up as HIDDEN on this thread?

Does anyone know?
 Quoting: Orsolja

In a previous post I said that even a little too much of it would make you ill. That's what I do know.
What I don't is whether borax is good for arthritis or not.

Why my posts come up hidden is possibly due to the fact that I was banned a while ago for typing a certain word which is forbidden on this site (Google it!). I subsequently donated but now that donation period has expired which is possibly why they're hidden.
Your guess is as good as mine.

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