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The Borax Conspiracy How the Arthritis Cure has been Stopped Walter Last

 
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Well?

Anybody else have success with Borax, it's been a couple weeks since the last post on this thread.

I didn't have any real joint pain until I spent all day shoveling last week, now my hands and spine are crunchy and uncomfortable, seems to get a little worse every day

I'm starting Borax today, before it gets any worse and will share if it works in a couple days...
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Well?

Anybody else have success with Borax, it's been a couple weeks since the last post on this thread.

I didn't have any real joint pain until I spent all day shoveling last week, now my hands and spine are crunchy and uncomfortable, seems to get a little worse every day

I'm starting Borax today, before it gets any worse and will share if it works in a couple days...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044


I definitely have less pain in movement since taking borax. I'm going to get some borax pills because I Can taste the borax in my water. I'm also taking hot baths with 2 cups of twenty mule team borax in the water. It softens the water and I probably get most of my borax this way.

If you have arthritis and don't try this, you're nuts.
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I have been taking it for over a year. 1/8 teaspoon in 32 oz of herbal tea. I don't taste it all.

I take it because flouride competes with iodine in your thyroid receptors (I also take an iodine supplement to help this). But the boron in the borax binds with the flouride, so that it is then excreted in the urine. And I do feel more alert, plus almost never have those wierd aches and pains that used to pop up in strange places (like suddenly the thumb joint or elbow joint started hurting).

Most people don't realize that flouride is associated with fibromylagia, skeletal porosis, osteoporosis, and chronic fatigue disease. I believe the original article OP posted refers to this. Ain't our government wonderful for taking care of our teeth this way? So thoughtful.

I also add a small amount to my shampoo bottle, and add it when taking a bath, along with baking soda and epsom salts.
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I have been taking it for over a year. 1/8 teaspoon in 32 oz of herbal tea. I don't taste it all.

I take it because flouride competes with iodine in your thyroid receptors (I also take an iodine supplement to help this). But the boron in the borax binds with the flouride, so that it is then excreted in the urine. And I do feel more alert, plus almost never have those wierd aches and pains that used to pop up in strange places (like suddenly the thumb joint or elbow joint started hurting).

Most people don't realize that flouride is associated with fibromylagia, skeletal porosis, osteoporosis, and chronic fatigue disease. I believe the original article OP posted refers to this. Ain't our government wonderful for taking care of our teeth this way? So thoughtful.

I also add a small amount to my shampoo bottle, and add it when taking a bath, along with baking soda and epsom salts.
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This is so insightful. I was just going to google borax and flouride to see what the combination would produce.

Thanks for the research!
hf
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I have been taking 6mg of Boron in a bone supplement for about a month. I have had some improvement. I also have been oil pulling and taking coconut oil for the last two weeks. I did have three days or so where I felt almost normal, but the pain is back. I am also eating only whole foods and taking all the common joint supplements. Trying to not feel discouraged. Would love to hear if anything worked for anyone! One thing for sure my teeth are a lot whiter and my gums look great.
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I LOVE BORAX! IT KILLS ANTS!

What else can kill ants and cure arthritis?!

Hell yes!

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I have been taking 6mg of Boron in a bone supplement for about a month. I have had some improvement. I also have been oil pulling and taking coconut oil for the last two weeks. I did have three days or so where I felt almost normal, but the pain is back. I am also eating only whole foods and taking all the common joint supplements. Trying to not feel discouraged. Would love to hear if anything worked for anyone! One thing for sure my teeth are a lot whiter and my gums look great.
 Quoting: Keomah


I have piriformus syndrome and nerve compression...it wear a magnet and it seriously take away 90% or more of the pain. I wear it 24/7.
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When I read about borax here a couple of weeks ago I ordered the Boron from Amazon at once. They do have rules about not sending it to the wrong people! I had to wait.

Now it appears it is in the mail and I hope to start it soon. I just could not face the box of stuff I used for killing ants going into my mouth.

I will put this thread in my favorites and update if I get some results.
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When I read about borax here a couple of weeks ago I ordered the Boron from Amazon at once. They do have rules about not sending it to the wrong people! I had to wait.

Now it appears it is in the mail and I hope to start it soon. I just could not face the box of stuff I used for killing ants going into my mouth.

I will put this thread in my favorites and update if I get some results.
 Quoting: waitn4end


You should be able to buy the borax from the grocery store or from kmart walmart(I NEVER! go to walmart).

Or don't you want use the borax? just asking
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I have been taking 6mg of Boron in a bone supplement for about a month. I have had some improvement. I also have been oil pulling and taking coconut oil for the last two weeks. I did have three days or so where I felt almost normal, but the pain is back. I am also eating only whole foods and taking all the common joint supplements. Trying to not feel discouraged. Would love to hear if anything worked for anyone! One thing for sure my teeth are a lot whiter and my gums look great.
 Quoting: Keomah


I have piriformus syndrome and nerve compression...it wear a magnet and it seriously take away 90% or more of the pain. I wear it 24/7.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22341096


Where do you wear the magnet? I will give it a try! Thanks
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Hmm, I am going to have to see some result's before I even think about this... interesting, but I don't want to be farting bubbles either.
 Quoting: BULLDOZER


I think you just convinced me not to try it after all, given the visual I just had after reading the last line of your post. 1rof1
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Hmm, I am going to have to see some result's before I even think about this... interesting, but I don't want to be farting bubbles either.
 Quoting: BULLDOZER


I think you just convinced me not to try it after all, given the visual I just had after reading the last line of your post. 1rof1
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Doesn't happen! I know.
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Heres a good little video someone sent to me.
about Flouride and the Pineal gland

Yes I know...she is very cute, but more importantly she is very aware!

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Heres a good little video someone sent to me.
about Flouride and the Pineal gland

Yes I know...she is very cute, but more importantly she is very aware!


 Quoting: Goodseed


Great! Thanks
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Walter Last has a lot of good articles at his web site, glad I found it.

It's really interesting that he points out here that borax is safer than table salt. Yet people freak out over the idea of ingesting it. Go figure.
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I am resurrecting this thread because it is so important!

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If it's a cure for something, and they don't want it to act as such, the powers that be will start mandating some sort of poison be added to it so it will kill any person who attempts any extralabel uses involving internal consumption of the product.

I mean that's what they do with alcohol products that haven't been taxed as beverages. That's what they do with most prescription painkillers so they become toxic if you take too much more than prescribed. A very clear message "We'll just make sure things kill you if you don't use them the way we say."

I dunno about eating that stuff though. I didn't know it was used as an insecticide, but now that I do, Borox becomes a product under the effect of my do-not-consume rule: If it is used for killing bugs, don't consume it! That includes artificial sweeteners too.
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Seem in theory that baking soda would neutralize your stomach acids, would cause your digestion to not be up to par. I have read that older people have poorer digestion because of less stomach acid. Does anyone know about this?
 Quoting: Keomah


Just take the baking soda at least 30 minutes before eating or at least an hour after eating.

For digestion, a little apple cider vinegar can be added to water and taken after a meal. Or just sipped throughout the day.
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insecticides aren't usually good for you, they know it kills bugs and plants but aren't sure exactly how. Don't think I'd try it.

If it stresses your body it will make your arthritis worse. Anything that puts stress on your system will make it worse.

Losing some fat is the best thing to do, cytokine feedback loop, it's an immune system feedback loop.
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Gotta tell you...

For arthritis and other joint pain, try tincture of Cats Claw. My shoulders were so bad I actually saw a surgeon twice, and nearly had surgery.

Then I discovered Cats Claw, on the recommendation of someone from another site. It was miraculous!! My should pain was gone in 48 hours. IT never came back.

Then I got a call from my mom. My dad (who has a really messed up neck) was in such pain I had to take him to the ER. Even the heavy duty IV pain meds they gave him only made the pain tolerable. Just enough to get him home and to bed (he's an otherwise very healthy 79 year old, walks 2 miles a day, and when they go on vacation to California, he still drives from North Texas). So I got the Cats Claw for him. Again, in 48 hours his pain was gone! And it's never returned. He just takes a little each day.

I think there is a difference in brands. The brand shown below works, while another I got online was not effective. My dads pain was back in a few days taking the cheaper brand. He went back to the good stuff and his pain disappeared again.

The brand that I found works is call "Herb Pharm". It cost $12 at the local health food store. I'l never be without the stuff. In fact, going today to stock up.

I also learned about Boron a while back. I actually had some (it's easily available here at the grocery store). I use it in a custom plant food I make. I made the solution and take it in the morning and eve.
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Love me some Borax, it's been a staple in every home I've ever lived in. Nice find, OP!
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Hmm...Does this really get rid of fluoride? Can anyone provide me with any information on how this is done besides vague and unsubstantiated assurances on some very un-mainstream health sites (that's all I can find).

Also, I'm trying to find solid, solid information that this stuff is actually safe. Most mainstream sources seem to say it's not safe but they don't say why it isn't anyway, although the fact it kills bugs makes me lean further toward unsafe than safe.

Thinking more about it, I'd actually try it if it would remove fluoride from my body, but only after I could answer those two things (that it really removes fluoride and it actually is safe.)

Meh, maybe it's not a good idea. Where I come from, when someone starts eating laundry detergent it's time to shoot 'em. The fact that I considered this is probably evidence that I'm losing my mind.

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 Quoting: Watching the world


Thank you for bringing this information back to the forefront!

Natures Pharmacy: everyone should procure a lifetime supply of these few things; borax, aluminum free baking soda, real salt, diatomaceous earth, epsom salt and bentonite clay. All are naturally occuring, in dry form, can be acquired in bulk for a reasonable investment and stored for years.

Since almost all chronic health conditions are nutritionally related and caused by either not getting enough minerals or the body not being able to absorb minerals, these few naturally occurring substances can provide you with the minerals your body needs and keep your system clean and able to optimally absorb and utilize these minerals.

Love to see this thread expand to include the use of the above list.
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insecticides aren't usually good for you, they know it kills bugs and plants but aren't sure exactly how. Don't think I'd try it.

If it stresses your body it will make your arthritis worse. Anything that puts stress on your system will make it worse.
 Quoting: Council on Foreign Relations



That is not true. I'm an RN. There are two kinds of stress, distress and eustress. Eustress is the good kind of stress. Here's an example: I go to Crossfit and work out. The workouts are killer and I may be sore. When I push myself to lift more, tiny microtears are made in the muscle. These repair, and you get larger muscles and stronger. That's eustress at work.

My theory is that is how baking soda works. Your body is held to a very tight Ph range. The baking soda starts to move your body toward the bad end of that range and "works" to move it to where it should be. I think it's that "excersize", if you will, that confers the benefit. But that's just my theory.
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I am resurrecting this thread because it is so important!

hf
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Thank you for that.

I'm all for 'natural' and will do some studying on this.
I appreciate all the info here and all who share their personal experiences.
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This is one of those things that alarm me, it may work for some. MMS works for some, and my friend swears by it. I tried baking soda, organic and non aluminum, from the health food store, and apple cider vinegar, (same),and organic honey solution for my arthritis that others swore by, but it made it much worse. I don't know what the baking soda alone would do, but Potassium Iodide, (we were taking crystals for fukushima) made it worse, as did the apple cider vinegar.

While MSM, the sulphur powder really helps it alot.

So far, for arthritis, I've found, Vit D, larger doses, fish oils, magnesium and MSM, really help.

And I had to give up my vitamin C, the good stuff from the vitamin C foundation, because it made my arthritis worse.

Someone linked this, and I was looking for a response:

[link to www.swansonvitamins.com (secure)]

Would this form of Boron be a safer alternative to try for arthritis?

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Sugar= inflamation = pain
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