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BREAKING: Levee Overtopped in New Orleans Area - Evacs Underway!! Winds over 100mph!!

 
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In Nebraska a levee was blown that might have put Ft. Calhoun in more danger. It was a private levee and they did have the right to blow their own levee and they did.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Quickly plotting the distances traveled based on 20 hours of advisory positions (8 pm last night to 4 PM today) shows that the storm travelled 90 miles or 4.5 MPH. NHC stated that the storm averaged 7 MPH in that time frame. Additionally, the storm moved all of 5 miles from 10 PM to 2 AM but the NHC showed 32 Miles of movement during that time frame. Why the discrepancy? Was it just oversight or innocent error?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4160225


Maybe the NHC folks plotted it and went to sleep and it didn't fit the plot.

Maybe NHC is like the EPA and not so good at what they do.

Or your other facts are wrong.

5 miles of movement 32 miles of movement

That is just like cpm at Radiation Network vs cpm EPA Radnet sortof.

I demand to know who is responsible for this wrong information!
I demand an investication to see if our NHC is as fucked up as our EPA!

Why did you put that there after my post and after the next post? I read it. I don't know.

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La. official: Levee will be breached amid flooding

[...]State Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority head Garret Graves says the levee won't be breached Wednesday because of weather conditions but it will happen as soon as they can get equipment to the site.

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks. I do believe this is why they ordered this Parish to be mandatory evac'd ahead of time even though it did not flood at all during Katrina!

I think they knew there 15 billion dollar levee system wasn't going to work, and this was the plan, release the overflow that really looks to me like a big ole drainage field in the past with another earthen levee on the backside
to release when it got full.

I didn't belive the story they told the media that they would breach a levee on the Mississippi to drain it there!
Diagrams or no diagrams that makes no sense at all if it is toppin over upstream causing this is the first place!
Yet with a straight face they drew a place to blow on the Mississippit to "drain" Plaquemines!!
Like the Mississippi wouldn't come flooding in the other way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


I don't get your reasoning. The rain and water is putting alot of pressure on the levees so it makes sense to punch a hole in it somewhere to relieve the pressure. The storm is moving slowly and will continue to dump rain on the land which will drain into the Mississippi and continue to make the river rise or possibly top the levees. Plaquamine parish is a very long parish. Drive about 20 miles down and there are not very many people or communities much further down there. So if they punch the hole where it will do the least damage to property, I don't see the problem. If there are any small communities down river, they likely already flooded from the surge. Punching a hole in the levy of the Mississippi will likely just release water into the swamps.

I'm not sure what happened in Braithwaite, but it is on the east side of the river and has the Gulf less than a mile on its other side. I can't believe people actually stayed, surrounded by water on both sides. They were told the surge would be 6 to 12ft and since this was such a slow moving storm the water just kept piling on them from the Gulf would be my guess. Look at Google. That is all swamp land behind them. Marsh and saltwater. Why would anyone stay there during a hurricane. Unless your house is on stilts, I wouldn't even live there!
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Sounded more like around 100 on The Weather Channel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


Weather channel vs head of Louisiana state police
 Quoting: Ice


CNN has talked about the great numbers of volunteers who are using boats to rescue people.

A group of individuals who own boats got together at the HOme Depot parking lot somewhere nearby, organised themselves, and went out to rescue people.

Local people looking after one another.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird



Uttt Ohhh!

Last Time FEMA rescued many New Orleans People from Hurricane Katrina, and all People rescued - Disappeared!

Over 10,000 People in New Orlean's area mysteriously disappeared after Hurricane Katrina and whereabouts are unknown till this day..

FEMA just takes you to worse situation and these Ignorant Entitlement Peoples of New Orleans, might just fall for the Death Trip help by FEMA again.

Oh!, How the Ignorant and Feeble Minded Never learn!

FEMA is not a good thing!, just run away from them, they are here to terminate your life...(not help you..)

Idol1
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I believe these were among the dead, but the numbers were kept low in order not to panic everyone.

Easier to just tell people they were sent to FEMA housing. Then people would not keep searching for the truth. Just like Andrew in Miami in '92. From a National Guardsman who was down there....he SAW THEM just bull-dozing hundreds and hundreds of bodies into huge make-shift holes/graves dug in the ground. I think the "official" death toll was less than 50. Not true.

It happened again in Katrina, and it will happen again now. With lots of luck, that sinkhole will not blow them ALL up to kingdom come.
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water level dropping in braithwaite.
about 10 ft now. Was over 14'
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Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
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a slow moving cat 1/ts that will rival Katrina. Poor Biloxi! Those bands of rain are relentless. Hang in there.
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Isaac

R I P

he is breaking down!!!!!
 Quoting: Ice

Quickly plotting the distances traveled based on 20 hours of advisory positions (8 pm last night to 4 PM today) shows that the storm travelled 90 miles or 4.5 MPH. NHC stated that the storm averaged 7 MPH in that time frame. Additionally, the storm moved all of 5 miles from 10 PM to 2 AM but the NHC showed 32 Miles of movement during that time frame. Why the discrepancy? Was it just oversight or innocent error?
 Quoting: Truth 4160225


Yep.

What about Stephanie Abrams standing in the street with almost no rain falling hour after hour?
Meanwhile two blocks away, Jim Cantore and Al Roker are playing stupid games, push-ups and whatnot but only in ONE SPOT.
See, TWC reporters all were strangely "sheltered" until they walked into a path of wind. Whether a particular spot on a curb (not middle of the street as you might expect), or walking out from behind a spindly bush, and then out of the zone again with, oh hey wind drops unexpectedly.

These guys were not being drenched by Isaac. What was going on all day in these reportings?
Stephanie Abrams acted practically drunk and walked over to the same storefront all day. Same will all of them really.
They never ventured more than a 10 foot radius all day.
Chroma Key?

The only interesting parts were all the white SUVs and army
trucks they showed.
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water level dropping in braithwaite.
about 10 ft now. Was over 14'
 Quoting: Gentile Moses™


Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
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water level dropping in braithwaite.
about 10 ft now. Was over 14'
 Quoting: Gentile Moses™


Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The Army Corps of Engineers is still working on that glitch.
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The Army Corps of Engineers is still working on that glitch.
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The Army Corps of engineers is working on the embassy in Irawq. (sic)
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Didn't you think it was funny? There they are again in the blowing wind trying to stand up wearing different outfits, ....are they different guys? The 2 guys trying to stand show. Come on, it was funny. I don't know why they did it but I am glad they did.

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Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The Army Corps of Engineers is still working on that glitch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


<Ruefully laughs>
So NOLA is flooding and they pump it to the outside of the bowl which eventually tops over and starts flooding back into the city, which triggers the pumps to the outside of the bowl, which floods and tops over and floods the city?

-----------> <----------- Glitch?
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water level dropping in braithwaite.
about 10 ft now. Was over 14'
 Quoting: Gentile Moses™


Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
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Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


This town didn't flood during Katrina. The new levee system that was put in place around New Orleans caused this town to flood in my opinion. Bad planning and execution by the Corps of Engineers.
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bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The Army Corps of Engineers is still working on that glitch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


<Ruefully laughs>
So NOLA is flooding and they pump it to the outside of the bowl which eventually tops over and starts flooding back into the city, which triggers the pumps to the outside of the bowl, which floods and tops over and floods the city?

-----------> <----------- Glitch?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


No not quite. Water should flow down the river back into the Gulf. The problem here is that the storm is so slow moving that it is still pushing water from the Gulf up into the river. So you have fresh rain water flowing down the river and salt water being pushed up the river causing the river to top the levees in spots. If this was a faster moving storm they wouldn't be running into these glitches.

Or we can just blame it on Obama. He hates white people you know. stoner
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Must have blown that second levee.
I think they blew the levee on the Mississippi to relieve flooding in the city. This caused the flooding in Plaquemines which they had ordered mandatory evacs in except forgot to evac the nursing home there?
Then they blew the back earthen levee.

My question is who in turn will this flood out?
I need to consult google maps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838




bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


HAha.
OK. So they were flooding from the GULF side levee and their solution is to blow another hole in the GULF side levee to "let the water out".

That's as bad as the CNN version they got from TWC earlier today where they were saying the River Side levee was topping over and they needed to blow a hole in the river side levee to "let it all out again"!!!

Genius...sheer governmental genius.

The water will just flood equally on both sides until it reaches a mean level.
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bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


This town didn't flood during Katrina. The new levee system that was put in place around New Orleans caused this town to flood in my opinion. Bad planning and execution by the Corps of Engineers.
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ohyeah


for want of a better word....they were sacrificed

I'd be boiling mad if I lived there and lost my house and all my belongings. Who are they to play "god"?!
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bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


This town didn't flood during Katrina. The new levee system that was put in place around New Orleans caused this town to flood in my opinion. Bad planning and execution by the Corps of Engineers.
 Quoting: Newbie78


Katrina was a fast mover and followed a slighter more easter path at landfall. That is the difference.
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Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


This town didn't flood during Katrina. The new levee system that was put in place around New Orleans caused this town to flood in my opinion. Bad planning and execution by the Corps of Engineers.
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Katrina was a fast mover and followed a slighter more easter path at landfall. That is the difference.
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Eastern path.
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bump

One wrong move and you sit with a situation that could cascade into unforeseen consequences and cause a tragedy of epic proportions. I hope not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


HAha.
OK. So they were flooding from the GULF side levee and their solution is to blow another hole in the GULF side levee to "let the water out".

That's as bad as the CNN version they got from TWC earlier today where they were saying the River Side levee was topping over and they needed to blow a hole in the river side levee to "let it all out again"!!!

Genius...sheer governmental genius.

The water will just flood equally on both sides until it reaches a mean level.
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You don't understand wind direction of hurricanes. The wind is now blowing in a different direction so the wind is no longer pushing the gulf water into the town. The water has likely receeded on the gulf side of the levee. So you cut a hole in the levee and the water drains back into the gulf.
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Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


This town didn't flood during Katrina. The new levee system that was put in place around New Orleans caused this town to flood in my opinion. Bad planning and execution by the Corps of Engineers.
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ohyeah


for want of a better word....they were sacrificed

I'd be boiling mad if I lived there and lost my house and all my belongings. Who are they to play "god"?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18761490


Indeed.

However, they just want Plaquemines to play "Isaac" is the more appropriate meme here.

I noticed they were very snotty saying that it wasn't part of the "FEDERAL LEVEE SYSTEM".
Like was there an option and they opted out?

I didn't get the 'tude they had with this Parish.
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Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
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The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
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HAha.
OK. So they were flooding from the GULF side levee and their solution is to blow another hole in the GULF side levee to "let the water out".

That's as bad as the CNN version they got from TWC earlier today where they were saying the River Side levee was topping over and they needed to blow a hole in the river side levee to "let it all out again"!!!

Genius...sheer governmental genius.

The water will just flood equally on both sides until it reaches a mean level.
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You don't understand wind direction of hurricanes. The wind is now blowing in a different direction so the wind is no longer pushing the gulf water into the town. The water has likely receeded on the gulf side of the levee. So you cut a hole in the levee and the water drains back into the gulf.
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Or it could be one of us doesn't understand the concept of flooding.
It's where you can't tell where the Gulf ends and Lake Ponchartrain ends for awhile, and all those little bayous flow together as one.
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The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
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This town didn't flood during Katrina. The new levee system that was put in place around New Orleans caused this town to flood in my opinion. Bad planning and execution by the Corps of Engineers.
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ohyeah


for want of a better word....they were sacrificed

I'd be boiling mad if I lived there and lost my house and all my belongings. Who are they to play "god"?!
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Indeed.

However, they just want Plaquemines to play "Isaac" is the more appropriate meme here.

I noticed they were very snotty saying that it wasn't part of the "FEDERAL LEVEE SYSTEM".
Like was there an option and they opted out?

I didn't get the 'tude they had with this Parish.
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Exactly...so the residents of this community have their homes flooded to save the damn ninth ward.
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Not sure what you mean.
But, does anyone know when your pumping stations keep the water out of NOLA and all around the outside of the bowl is also flooded already, where does the water go exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


HAha.
OK. So they were flooding from the GULF side levee and their solution is to blow another hole in the GULF side levee to "let the water out".

That's as bad as the CNN version they got from TWC earlier today where they were saying the River Side levee was topping over and they needed to blow a hole in the river side levee to "let it all out again"!!!

Genius...sheer governmental genius.

The water will just flood equally on both sides until it reaches a mean level.
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You don't understand wind direction of hurricanes. The wind is now blowing in a different direction so the wind is no longer pushing the gulf water into the town. The water has likely receeded on the gulf side of the levee. So you cut a hole in the levee and the water drains back into the gulf.
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^^^This^^^ And this is under local control. They have been to this rodeo a time or two before and I tend to think they know what they are doing.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Indeed.

However, they just want Plaquemines to play "Isaac" is the more appropriate meme here.

I noticed they were very snotty saying that it wasn't part of the "FEDERAL LEVEE SYSTEM".
Like was there an option and they opted out?

I didn't get the 'tude they had with this Parish.
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They spent 14 Billion of my tax dollars supporting a federal network, in N.O. but we still have to make local sacrifices.

They spent 2 Trillion on catching bin laden. And according to CBS Network news tonight on 8/19/2012 the marine/seal says "we got 'em." Buttressed up with an interview with Romney talking about "fixing" stuff.

Next time just let me know. It is fun to watch decrepit old men solving the worlds problems.
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Weather channel vs head of Louisiana state police
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CNN has talked about the great numbers of volunteers who are using boats to rescue people.

A group of individuals who own boats got together at the HOme Depot parking lot somewhere nearby, organised themselves, and went out to rescue people.

Local people looking after one another.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird



Uttt Ohhh!

Last Time FEMA rescued many New Orleans People from Hurricane Katrina, and all People rescued - Disappeared!

Over 10,000 People in New Orlean's area mysteriously disappeared after Hurricane Katrina and whereabouts are unknown till this day..

FEMA just takes you to worse situation and these Ignorant Entitlement Peoples of New Orleans, might just fall for the Death Trip help by FEMA again.

Oh!, How the Ignorant and Feeble Minded Never learn!

FEMA is not a good thing!, just run away from them, they are here to terminate your life...(not help you..)

Idol1
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I believe these were among the dead, but the numbers were kept low in order not to panic everyone.

Easier to just tell people they were sent to FEMA housing. Then people would not keep searching for the truth. Just like Andrew in Miami in '92. From a National Guardsman who was down there....he SAW THEM just bull-dozing hundreds and hundreds of bodies into huge make-shift holes/graves dug in the ground. I think the "official" death toll was less than 50. Not true.

It happened again in Katrina, and it will happen again now. With lots of luck, that sinkhole will not blow them ALL up to kingdom come.
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ike in galveston/boliver?
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Well, I don't know. What if all these well-meaning plans backfire and actually make the situation much worse.
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The only place it can go. Either in the river or in the lake. No where else to put it.

Now regarding the planned breach of the levee. Weather channel just explained it. The town of Braithwaith was flooded from the Gulf side levee. The town has a levee on the Mississippi river side and a smaller levee on the backside by the Gulf. So, the town, as all communities in Plaquemines parish, basically sit in a bowl surrounded by levees. They are planning on breeching the levee on the gulf side to let the water the flooded homes are sitting in drain back to the gulf.

They are also ordering a mandatory evacuation of Belle Chase which is on the west side of the river because the Mississippi is overtopping the levee there in Belle Chase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


HAha.
OK. So they were flooding from the GULF side levee and their solution is to blow another hole in the GULF side levee to "let the water out".

That's as bad as the CNN version they got from TWC earlier today where they were saying the River Side levee was topping over and they needed to blow a hole in the river side levee to "let it all out again"!!!

Genius...sheer governmental genius.

The water will just flood equally on both sides until it reaches a mean level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


You don't understand wind direction of hurricanes. The wind is now blowing in a different direction so the wind is no longer pushing the gulf water into the town. The water has likely receeded on the gulf side of the levee. So you cut a hole in the levee and the water drains back into the gulf.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478544


^^^This^^^ And this is under local control. They have been to this rodeo a time or two before and I tend to think they know what they are doing.
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Well excuse the hell out of my ignorance here, but one would think that 15 billion dollars spent on a levee system would kind of negate the need for blowing holes in it?

Maybe they could have saved the billions and spent a couple grand on dynamite?
Or maybe they could build in permanent controllable floodgates to open and close as needed in appropriate drainage locations?

Sheesh.
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ICE is a dick. don't fuck with the DH.

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