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Breaking Story - US Navy Seal Spills the Beans about Bin Laden Raid

 
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Everyones agreeing and saying "This!" to the fact that he died in 2001 due to kidney failure. Anyone got a source to confirm this?
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This!^^
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BULL! Osama was dead in 2001 from kidney failure!
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THIS!
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yes check my post above
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


I did check it. An alleged acquaintance cited lung disease as the cause of death and continued to say US troops were wasting their time looking for him....hardly a cast iron guarantee of his demise?
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This new information about Bin Laden already being dead is designed for one purpose, and one purpose only:

It's to make us argue about whether he was or wasn't dead when the SEALs got to him in the house in Abbottabad, Pakistan. They know that this disagreement will break down along political lines. Obama supporters will argue that the SEALs killed Bin Laden like what the Administration claims. Anti-Obama people will argue that Bin Laden was laying dead on the floor of the house when the SEALs got there, and that the Obama Administration lied about it for political points.

See what they've done? They're framed the argument to be: Was Bin Laden dead in the house or still alive when the SEALs got to his room?

The REAL argument should be and is: Was Bin Laden even in the house at all? Has he even been alive for the past 10 years? Or did he died of renal (kidney) failure early in 2001/02? And was the raid on the house in Abbottabad, in fact, a raid on another al Qaeda target? And were members of SEAL Team 6 who participated in that raid in Abbottabad then purposefully killed 3 months later in a Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan?

For those of us who've diligently studied these events, the answer is clear.

TPTB are trying to ALTER the argument from: "Was Osama Bin Laden even in that house in Abbottbad or had he died 10 years earlier?"....TO...."Was Osama Bin Laden dead in the house from a self-inflicted gun shot would before the SEALs got to him or did the SEALs kill him as the Obama Administration claims?"

Understand that psychology is being employed.
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Or they wanted to avoid the fact that OBL would be captured alive and would sing. easy to have him whacked by CIA operative prior to raid from team 6.
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This new information about Bin Laden already being dead is designed for one purpose, and one purpose only:

It's to make us argue about whether he was or wasn't dead when the SEALs got to him in the house in Abbottabad, Pakistan. They know that this disagreement will break down along political lines. Obama supporters will argue that the SEALs killed Bin Laden like what the Administration claims. Anti-Obama people will argue that Bin Laden was laying dead on the floor of the house when the SEALs got there, and that the Obama Administration lied about it for political points.

See what they've done? They're framed the argument to be: Was Bin Laden dead in the house or still alive when the SEALs got to his room?

The REAL argument should be and is: Was Bin Laden even in the house at all? Has he even been alive for the past 10 years? Or did he died of renal (kidney) failure early in 2001/02? And was the raid on the house in Abbottabad, in fact, a raid on another al Qaeda target? And were members of SEAL Team 6 who participated in that raid in Abbottabad then purposefully killed 3 months later in a Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan?

For those of us who've diligently studied these events, the answer is clear.

TPTB are trying to ALTER the argument from: "Was Osama Bin Laden even in that house in Abbottbad or had he died 10 years earlier?"....TO...."Was Osama Bin Laden dead in the house from a self-inflicted gun shot would before the SEALs got to him or did the SEALs kill him as the Obama Administration claims?"

Understand that psychology is being employed.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


And for an extremist to take his own life alone would not please his so-called god. He would have to be a martyr and would have to take out infidels while dying to qualify under their beliefs.
So the self inflicted suicide mantra does not hold water right out of the gate. That would be unbecoming of what they believe is a warrior and is cowardice in any culture.

Remember the rules they operate under: Deflect, distract, detract, and attack.

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All the pros and cons--but this a fact!!--This book is going to be used against the USA--HERE ARE SOME PARAGRAPHS FROM THE BOOK..WITH CONFLICTING ACCOUNTS...NOT GOOD-hiding ..

The accounts are sure to again raise questions as to whether the raid was intended to capture or simply to kill bin Laden. Bissonette writes that during a pre-raid briefing, a lawyer from "either" the White House or Defense Department told them that they were not on an assassination mission. According to Bissonnette, the lawyer said that if bin Laden was "naked with his hands up," they should not "engage" him. If bin Laden did not pose a threat, they should "detain him."


The author writes that bin Laden ducked back into his bedroom and the SEALs followed, only to find the terrorist crumpled on the floor in a pool of blood with a hole visible on the right side of his head and two women wailing over his body.

Bissonnette says the point man pulled the two women out of the way and shoved them into a corner and he and the other SEALs trained their guns' laser sites on bin Laden's still-twitching body, shooting him several times until he lay motionless. The SEALs later found two weapons stored by the doorway, untouched, the author said.

In a account related by administration officials after the raid in Pakistan, the SEALs shot bin Laden only after he ducked back into the bedroom because they assumed he might be reaching for a weapon.

Another possibly uncomfortable revelation for U.S. officials who say bin Laden's body was treated with dignity before being given a full Muslim burial at sea, the author reveals that in the cramped helicopter flight out of the compound, one of the SEALs called "Walt" , one of the pseudonyms the author used for his fellow SEALs , was sitting on bin Laden's chest as the body lay at the author's feet

Bissonnette writes disparagingly that none of the SEALs were fans of President Barack Obama and knew that his administration would take credit for ordering the May 2011 raid. One of the SEALs said after the mission that they had just gotten Obama re-elected by carrying out the raid.

Bissonnette writes less flatteringly of meeting Vice President Joe Biden along with Obama at the headquarters of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment after the raid. He says Biden told "lame jokes" no one understood, reminding him of "someone's drunken uncle at Christmas dinner."
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All the pros and cons--but this a fact!!--This book is going to be used against the USA--HERE ARE SOME PARAGRAPHS FROM THE BOOK..WITH CONFLICTING ACCOUNTS...NOT GOOD-hiding ..

The accounts are sure to again raise questions as to whether the raid was intended to capture or simply to kill bin Laden. Bissonette writes that during a pre-raid briefing, a lawyer from "either" the White House or Defense Department told them that they were not on an assassination mission. According to Bissonnette, the lawyer said that if bin Laden was "naked with his hands up," they should not "engage" him. If bin Laden did not pose a threat, they should "detain him."


The author writes that bin Laden ducked back into his bedroom and the SEALs followed, only to find the terrorist crumpled on the floor in a pool of blood with a hole visible on the right side of his head and two women wailing over his body.

Bissonnette says the point man pulled the two women out of the way and shoved them into a corner and he and the other SEALs trained their guns' laser sites on bin Laden's still-twitching body, shooting him several times until he lay motionless. The SEALs later found two weapons stored by the doorway, untouched, the author said.

In a account related by administration officials after the raid in Pakistan, the SEALs shot bin Laden only after he ducked back into the bedroom because they assumed he might be reaching for a weapon.

Another possibly uncomfortable revelation for U.S. officials who say bin Laden's body was treated with dignity before being given a full Muslim burial at sea, the author reveals that in the cramped helicopter flight out of the compound, one of the SEALs called "Walt" , one of the pseudonyms the author used for his fellow SEALs , was sitting on bin Laden's chest as the body lay at the author's feet

Bissonnette writes disparagingly that none of the SEALs were fans of President Barack Obama and knew that his administration would take credit for ordering the May 2011 raid. One of the SEALs said after the mission that they had just gotten Obama re-elected by carrying out the raid.

Bissonnette writes less flatteringly of meeting Vice President Joe Biden along with Obama at the headquarters of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment after the raid. He says Biden told "lame jokes" no one understood, reminding him of "someone's drunken uncle at Christmas dinner."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22822508


I appreciate your post, but it's all moot....Bin Laden was not in the house that was forcibly entered in the Abbottabad raid. He'd been dead for years. And the SEALs who were involved in that raid (20 of them) died in a Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan on August 6, 2011. Dead men tell no tales.

Don't fall into the trap of debating whether or not Bin Laden was alive or dead in the house when the SEALs got there. He wasn't in the house at all.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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And remember, just 3 months later, 20 members of SEAL Team 6 (along with 2 other special ops forces, an Afghan translator, a work dog, and the U.S. helicopter crew) died when their Chinook helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan on August 6, 2001. Dead men tell no tales.

Remember, too, that August 6 was the date, in 2001 (10 years earlier), that Bush got the Presidential Daily Briefing Memo (PDB) while on vacation at his ranch in Crawford that was titled: "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.". A couple things about this. First, this PDB was intentionally leaked so as to preemptively create the guilty boogeyman for the event (9/11) which was to occur the following month. This was used as "evidence" that 9/11 was Bin Laden. After all, just a month prior, Bush got a memo saying Bin Laden was determined to strike in the U.S. (Rolling eyes here). Second, do you honestly think that if that PDB memo didn't serve the purpose stated above, that it would EVER see the light of day?! It basically laid out the accusation that the highest levels of our government were WARNED, and failed to take the necessary steps to prevent it.

In my opinion, the event we call "9/11" is a decade-long (to the day) operation -- August 6, 2001 (the PDB memo) to August 6, 2011 (the killing of SEAL Team 6, the same SEAL Team that allegedly killed Bin Laden in a raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan).

Inside job. Facilitation. Roadblocks were removed so it could occur.

Too many people stood to make too much money. The "specter" of Communism ended in 1991. Then we had Bill Clinton for two terms. Then within 9 months of George W. Bush becoming President, 9/11. How "tidy", as they say in the South. Not to mention Vice President Dick Cheney's secret energy meetings in February 2001. Quick story on that. A political watchdog group sued to make the minutes of Cheney's secret energy meeting in Feb. 2001 public. The case went to the Supreme Court. Two weeks before the Supreme Court ruled on the case, Dick Cheney went duck hunting with Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (arguably the most powerful, influential, well respected judge on the court....and a conservative) in Louisiana. The Supreme Court ruled that the minutes of Cheney's secret energy meeting did not have to be made public. Fancy that! By the way, this was a separate incident from the hunting trip Cheney took where he shot his lawyer "friend" in the face. That was in Texas.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


ON THE DAY BEFORE 9-11 RONALD DUMSFEILD REPORTED 2.3 TRILLION MISSING FROM PENTAGON. MONTH LATTER HE REPORTED NO INVESTAGATION THE MISSLE HIT THE PART OF PENTAGON WHERE FILES ARE STORED.
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Everyones agreeing and saying "This!" to the fact that he died in 2001 due to kidney failure. Anyone got a source to confirm this?
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Dead Or Alive–OBL Died In December 2001–Twin Brother–UBL Died May 2, 2011–Videos

[link to raymondpronk.wordpress.com]
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Bhutto said he was dead , before she was assassinated..
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BULL! Osama was dead in 2001 from kidney failure!
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Yep. This.
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sheep
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Wait! The timeline is confusing regardless who it was lying on the floor dying. Did the point man see a man peeking out the door before or after the shots? It leads everyone to believe the shots were fired before a man peeked out the door. If that is the case and I was in that man's sandals I would be grabbing a few pain relievers and go lie down in bed. It wouldn't matter who was coming up those stairs. 1rof1
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""""""""""""""""""""Bissonnette writes less flatteringly of meeting Vice President Joe Biden along with Obama at the headquarters of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment after the raid. He says Biden told "lame jokes" no one understood, reminding him of "someone's drunken uncle at Christmas dinner."
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I appreciate your post, but it's all moot....Bin Laden was not in the house that was forcibly entered in the Abbottabad raid. He'd been dead for years. And the SEALs who were involved in that raid (20 of them) died in a Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan on August 6, 2011. Dead men tell no tales."""""""""""""""""""""'''

I also agree that it is a minimun of %80 that he was already deceased as early as 2001--as the deceased/assasinated?
Bhutto said--

I PUT THIS ON--(caps intentional) in that this book is primarily for the re-election of the O- to make him look good--BUT-there are many conflicting statements/opinions etc in this book --the administration vs the troops that it just might back fire.

Im ex-military-nothing big-just a grunt- but in my time --even to mention a Black-ops --and reveal info-no less the unit -would have been a one way trip to somewhere -if you were lucky maybe the big L if not worse even a CM.

There are a few you-tubes out there where the neighbors accounts are decidely? different.

It is all smoke and mirrors--One of the main points is the respect of the body -which people of all religions would want for theirs--is BLASTED -if the event is true-in the helocop trip back -and stands out and plus the fact--again if true-that they find him in blood and fire more shots at the twitching body--Now we have to see how they jazz up the movie.

Will the big O be dressed up as a Seal in it. VOMIT.hiding
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Everyones agreeing and saying "This!" to the fact that he died in 2001 due to kidney failure. Anyone got a source to confirm this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12761058


Dead Or Alive–OBL Died In December 2001–Twin Brother–UBL Died May 2, 2011–Videos

[link to raymondpronk.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Terrebonne


Very interesting
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Proof the author was anything to do with the Navy Seals?

That's right. None.
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dont think osama is dead so photos osama its fakes was joke they pakistan take out burial osama body is fake at sea.
already soldiers navy search for burial was empty

pakistan scamers
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This seems like disinfo also since there's pretty good evidence that he died of kidney failure in the early 2000's.
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1; Fuzzy photos prior to and after killing.

2; Obama Bin Laden had many brothers and sisters.

3; His father was Yemen migrate to Saudi, married 22 times.
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BULL! Osama was dead in 2001 from kidney failure!
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FOX News article about Osama's death in 2001:
[link to www.foxnews.com]

And the translated newspaper articles reporting his death:
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There was no seal team 6.... That was back in the day. Dude on the news even said right after it happened that seal team 6 doesnt make sense. He was apart of the seals i will try to find the clip


>>>>> Right before this came on tv my brother was also saying seal team 6 dosent exist, it was i guess you would say re placed. <<<<<<


 Quoting: Guarnere09


There IS what people still mistakingly call SEAL Team 6. Today they are known only as DevGru (Developmental Group) - They haven't been referred to as SEAL Team 6 since the days of Marcinko. However, people still seem to call them that, even though most in the Teams don't like it.
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Sounds to me like our nations elite stormed into a house, dragged out a sick old man and tossed his corpse into the sea. You know how it is, all those bearded towel heads look alike.
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Hollywood knocking: Director Steven Spielberg and HBO co-president Richard Plepler have both met with the Navy SEAL to discuss turning the book into a movie

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Chherrching! Everyone's a winner in the war on terror!
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Why of course, its all about the Money, just ask the USDOJ and Justice System about that (Courts and Prisons). Its all about the money...

Why of Course!

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gomer lies badly - bad goober
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


I wonder how long it will be before this retired Navy Seal has a so called Accident and is dead???


wtf
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if they wanted to block the book they would, its more disinfo and most of seal team 6 was killed in the helicopter crash shortly after
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13337607


This is true.

It doesnt matter if the story is true or not, 16 of those men and their testimonies went down in that helicopter. It was only like a month afterwards too.

I have seen multiple videos that claimed to be OBL over the years, and if you look hard enough, you can see that there have been at least 2 different people that have portrayed the role of CIA code-name TIM OSMAN.

Also remember the close ties between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family.

Just something to think about.
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Bin Laden was dead when seals arrived... ( by webdesk-reuters)


Owen also denied numerous reports that Bin Laden had a weapon and resisted when the Seals entered. He wrote that the al Qaeda leader was unarmed and had been fatally wounded with “blood and brains spilled out of the side of his skull”.

LINK:

[link to tribune.com.pk]


LINK:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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SEALs are among the biggest fags, liars, thieves and murderers on the planet. This s.o.b. should be hanging from a rope - not marketing books and getting his dick sucked by Media and borderline and non-borderline retarded netizens.
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This new information about Bin Laden already being dead is designed for one purpose, and one purpose only:

It's to make us argue about whether he was or wasn't dead when the SEALs got to him in the house in Abbottabad, Pakistan. They know that this disagreement will break down along political lines. Obama supporters will argue that the SEALs killed Bin Laden like what the Administration claims. Anti-Obama people will argue that Bin Laden was laying dead on the floor of the house when the SEALs got there, and that the Obama Administration lied about it for political points.



Understand that psychology is being employed.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


You hit the nail on the head ! He was killed (died) in PAKISTAN ! A Saudi, funded from Saudi Arabia was killed in Pakistan.
Can anyone then explain the logic of us (the west) invading Iraq or Afghanistan ?
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Spilling beans so when movie comes out it looks legit. Disinfo agent for sure. He died 2001. There own newspaper said so. The lie machines
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and ? they no says confirm must frist see bodies osama bi laden

wtf ? since 2006 i saw tv cnn says confirm osama is dead after year 2011 helicopter crash die osama and show photos osama dead is fakes or true why they says order military go find the burial body osama at sea already empty..pfffffffffff

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