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Does GOD change HIS plans?

 
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That was only a parable.
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I was expecting that excuse. What about this

"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (Revelation 19:20, KJV).

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" (Revelation 21:8, KJV).
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I never denied the Lake of fire, I even mentioned it in my last post. Just that is will not be eternal.
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Yes, I knew you would write your own scripture at some point.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:41
 Quoting: Ohwell


Again, it is a mistranslation. If you have a look at the link I posted, it will fill you in.
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Maybe God has changed His plans.
It already happened in the 60's when a nuclear war between USA and USSR was iminent.
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Many, many times, like in the story of Jonah, GOD withheld HIS judgment/disaster upon a nation when they repented and turned back to HIM.



Jeremiah also mentions this many times....that the LORD will CHANGE HIS MIND, if the people ask for forgiveness and acknowledge HIM as ALMIGHTY GOD:


"Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his evil way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the disaster I was planning because of the evil they have done."

Jeremiah 26:3



and


"Now reform your ways and your actions and obey the LORD your God. Then the LORD will relent and not bring the disaster he has pronounced against you.'

Jeremia 26:13


************************************************************


SO, the question is, is JUDGMENT already at the doorstep of the nations ready to pour out....

is it too late?

Or can each one of us do our part in changing, not only our personal lives, but the course of history???

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


I don't think anyone will disagree with the idea that if we change our evil ways, the world will be better.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Yes, why don't we start with America. We have a greater crime rate here than most any other country and we supposedly have some character named God that favors us. Go figure. Atheist countries have a much higher standard of living, less crime, more equality, etc. So if we are supposed to love each other, why are Christians so horrible, evil, angry and hateful to all those who don't think like they do? I have to wonder.
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I would suggest that those that lived, and are living, in the societies created by Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Il Sung would disagree with you.
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Many, many times, like in the story of Jonah, GOD withheld HIS judgment/disaster upon a nation when they repented and turned back to HIM.



Jeremiah also mentions this many times....that the LORD will CHANGE HIS MIND, if the people ask for forgiveness and acknowledge HIM as ALMIGHTY GOD:


"Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his evil way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the disaster I was planning because of the evil they have done."

Jeremiah 26:3



and


"Now reform your ways and your actions and obey the LORD your God. Then the LORD will relent and not bring the disaster he has pronounced against you.'

Jeremia 26:13


************************************************************


SO, the question is, is JUDGMENT already at the doorstep of the nations ready to pour out....

is it too late?

Or can each one of us do our part in changing, not only our personal lives, but the course of history???

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Judgement is inevitable it has to happen or the word of God himself will not be fulfilled. God will fulfill his word to the letter you better believe that. If he knew he'd change his mind on Judgement i doubt him knowing everything from beginning to end would give John a revelation He wouldn't fulfill. Disaster approaches.. Without a doubt. All we can do is be prepared for the inevitable.
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huh? awesome dude????

HE IS YOUR CREATOR....not just mine, sir!

You will have to give an account of your life to HIM, whether you want to or not.....

How do I sleep at night?? HE grants peace to those who know HIM.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
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And the many souls in African nations who have lived and died without ever knowing how to read talk-less of reading a bible.

Oh, and did I forget the 5 year old girl that could only communicate by mooing cause she lived with cows for 5 years? How come she could not speak a human language? I thought language is our intuition. So how come a persons intuition could be overridden by mooing? Would she or did she in her state of mind know about god?

Does this story sound similar to a person raised in the USonly being able to speak only english or a Russian speaking only Russian language? Could it be that our language is programming and merely noise and could mean absolutely nothing? How come this god didn't deem it fit to grant us the ability to speak/understand any/all words in any/all languages from childhood and we thereafter decide which one we like? Couldn't he do it? Yet the only way which most can know about him and his ways is through a book which he didn't grant them the ability to read from. Most even have to resort to the dictionary to read the bible. Did god write the dictionary or is truth stranger than fiction and we are indeed living in a lab....in a matrix? LOL
 Quoting: Ohwell


the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IS JUST AND FAIR....

we will be judged on only that which we know....not what we don't know.

GOD is the final JUDGE....

BUT HE IS FAIR, JUST and FAITHFUL and will give to everyone that which they have sowed.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


we will be judged on only that which we know....not what we don't know.

Please let me know the bible verse for this.
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He also sends people into fiery hell, for eternity. Awesome dude you worship.

Doesn't it make you feel dirty to be on the side of such an evil being?

How do you sleep at night?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


huh? awesome dude????

HE IS YOUR CREATOR....not just mine, sir!

You will have to give an account of your life to HIM, whether you want to or not.....

How do I sleep at night?? HE grants peace to those who know HIM.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


you know nothing of which you speak....

you only see the physical and not the spiritual....

you are looking at life through your own fleshy eyes...

we are in a spiritual battle here on earth....

the physical is only a glimpse of what is happening in the spirit.

there is evil, sickness and disease because of the FALLEN ONE....

It is not at GOD's hand that these evils happen.

It is because of the darkness that has come into the world, as well as man's sin and a love for this darkness.

You blame the wrong person!!!

A true trick of satan!

Don't be deceived anymore or blinded by this wicked one...

He tells you lies!

We live in a fallen world....good and evil...

GOD IS GOOD....

satan is evil....

pretty simple, hey???
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


You have been programmed wrong. You have a glitch in your computer programming. First off, who is this EVIL ONE you talk about? I hope it isn't the character, Satan, from the Bible. I hope you know that this God you love CREATED Satan, and God created him so that he could eventually destroy him some day. Satan will be tormented, forever and ever, by this God that you worship.

How many people did Satan kill in the Bible? Well, that would be ten. Those ten people were the family of Job and first he had to get permission from your evil Lord to do it. God, who is actually the EVIL character from your delusional book, gave him permission because he wanted to prove that Job was his slave.

How many men, women, children, infants, geriatric people, etc. did God kill? Well that would be well over THREE MILLION people. Why did he kill some of them? David did a census and he killed a couple thousand. He killed all the firstborn babies AFTER he blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh. That's right. God wanted to kill their children so he blinded the Pharoah so that he could prove that he was an evil barbarian. SATAN is EVIL??? are you kidding ??? God made people EAT their own children in Deuteronomy.

Listen, GO READ YOUR BIBLE. It is so obvious that you are just vomiting up crap you've been told was true. The REAL BIBLE tells a different story.
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A pointless question unless you believe god is not omniscient and therefore not god. If he is omniscient then he knows what plans he'll change and when way in advance :-)
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huh? awesome dude????

HE IS YOUR CREATOR....not just mine, sir!

You will have to give an account of your life to HIM, whether you want to or not.....

How do I sleep at night?? HE grants peace to those who know HIM.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


you know nothing of which you speak....

you only see the physical and not the spiritual....

you are looking at life through your own fleshy eyes...

we are in a spiritual battle here on earth....

the physical is only a glimpse of what is happening in the spirit.

there is evil, sickness and disease because of the FALLEN ONE....

It is not at GOD's hand that these evil happen.

It is because of the darkness that has come into the world, as well as man's sin and a love for this darkness.

You blame the wrong person!!!

A true trick of satan!

Don't be deceived anymore or blinded by this wicked one...

He tells you lies!

We live in a fallen world....good and evil...

GOD IS GOOD....

satan is evil....

pretty simple, hey???
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Is God able to eliminate Satan?

If not, them Satan is his equal.

If so, then God allows the suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


No, letting satan here is part of the plan. It is the 'sifting' that has to occur....a 'refining of fire.' We are to become more like the FATHER and this is accomplished through HIS spirit and trials/tribulations.

This present world is just the 'opening' act of the grand 'play' of GOD. It is where all the players are casted. We get to choose what role we want to play for all eternity. There's that free will stuff again!!!

Our time on earth is the just the very beginning....
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huh? awesome dude????

HE IS YOUR CREATOR....not just mine, sir!

You will have to give an account of your life to HIM, whether you want to or not.....

How do I sleep at night?? HE grants peace to those who know HIM.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


And the many souls in African nations who have lived and died without ever knowing how to read talk-less of reading a bible.

Oh, and did I forget the 5 year old girl that could only communicate by mooing cause she lived with cows for 5 years? How come she could not speak a human language? I thought language is our intuition. So how come a persons intuition could be overridden by mooing? Would she or did she in her state of mind know about god?

Does this story sound similar to a person raised in the USonly being able to speak only english or a Russian speaking only Russian language? Could it be that our language is programming and merely noise and could mean absolutely nothing? How come this god didn't deem it fit to grant us the ability to speak/understand any/all words in any/all languages from childhood and we thereafter decide which one we like? Couldn't he do it? Yet the only way which most can know about him and his ways is through a book which he didn't grant them the ability to read from. Most even have to resort to the dictionary to read the bible. Did god write the dictionary or is truth stranger than fiction and we are indeed living in a lab....in a matrix? LOL
 Quoting: Ohwell


the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IS JUST AND FAIR....

we will be judged on only that which we know....not what we don't know.

GOD is the final JUDGE....

BUT HE IS FAIR, JUST and FAITHFUL and will give to everyone that which they have sowed.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


I cant help but laugh over this very simple explanation to the grandness of what I stated happening in our reality. So your only explanation is the one which fits your training and upbringing. Then according to your logic, the hindu's too must be right with their reincarnation theory cause you might as well have been born into that culture.

You have as much right and reason to believe in the hindu doctrine as you have believed in the christian one. By saying your way is right makes others' ways wrong. So in essence people are condemned simply for being born in the wrong region of the planet which isn't their choice but gods'.

And this god is so much unified that there are contradictory versions of him in every culture which he permits and could mean in essence that they are all right after all or maybe he just doesn't give a damn what anyone believes which defeats your argument of people being judged by any means...which makes you wrong. So which is it?
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huh? awesome dude????

HE IS YOUR CREATOR....not just mine, sir!

You will have to give an account of your life to HIM, whether you want to or not.....

How do I sleep at night?? HE grants peace to those who know HIM.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


you know nothing of which you speak....

you only see the physical and not the spiritual....

you are looking at life through your own fleshy eyes...

we are in a spiritual battle here on earth....

the physical is only a glimpse of what is happening in the spirit.

there is evil, sickness and disease because of the FALLEN ONE....

It is not at GOD's hand that these evils happen.

It is because of the darkness that has come into the world, as well as man's sin and a love for this darkness.

You blame the wrong person!!!

A true trick of satan!

Don't be deceived anymore or blinded by this wicked one...

He tells you lies!

We live in a fallen world....good and evil...

GOD IS GOOD....

satan is evil....

pretty simple, hey???
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


You have been programmed wrong. You have a glitch in your computer programming. First off, who is this EVIL ONE you talk about? I hope it isn't the character, Satan, from the Bible. I hope you know that this God you love CREATED Satan, and God created him so that he could eventually destroy him some day. Satan will be tormented, forever and ever, by this God that you worship.

How many people did Satan kill in the Bible? Well, that would be ten. Those ten people were the family of Job and first he had to get permission from your evil Lord to do it. God, who is actually the EVIL character from your delusional book, gave him permission because he wanted to prove that Job was his slave.

How many men, women, children, infants, geriatric people, etc. did God kill? Well that would be well over THREE MILLION people. Why did he kill some of them? David did a census and he killed a couple thousand. He killed all the firstborn babies AFTER he blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh. That's right. God wanted to kill their children so he blinded the Pharoah so that he could prove that he was an evil barbarian. SATAN is EVIL??? are you kidding ??? God made people EAT their own children in Deuteronomy.

Listen, GO READ YOUR BIBLE. It is so obvious that you are just vomiting up crap you've been told was true. The REAL BIBLE tells a different story.
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lol

you're funny...

you don't know me...

or who I am....

I know of what I speak....

there is a spiritual battle going on all around right now...I can see it.
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YES!


Many, many times, like in the story of Jonah, GOD withheld HIS judgment/disaster upon a nation when they repented and turned back to HIM.



Jeremiah also mentions this many times....that the LORD will CHANGE HIS MIND, if the people ask for forgiveness and acknowledge HIM as ALMIGHTY GOD:


"Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his evil way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the disaster I was planning because of the evil they have done."

Jeremiah 26:3



and


"Now reform your ways and your actions and obey the LORD your God. Then the LORD will relent and not bring the disaster he has pronounced against you.'

Jeremia 26:13


************************************************************


SO, the question is, is JUDGMENT already at the doorstep of the nations ready to pour out....

is it too late?

Or can each one of us do our part in changing, not only our personal lives, but the course of history???

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


I don't think anyone will disagree with the idea that if we change our evil ways, the world will be better.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Yes, why don't we start with America. We have a greater crime rate here than most any other country and we supposedly have some character named God that favors us. Go figure. Atheist countries have a much higher standard of living, less crime, more equality, etc. So if we are supposed to love each other, why are Christians so horrible, evil, angry and hateful to all those who don't think like they do? I have to wonder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


I would suggest that those that lived, and are living, in the societies created by Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Il Sung would disagree with you.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


I talk to some people on the internet from Russia and they seem perfectly happy. Happiness does not always equate with RICHES. You think that you have freedom in America?? HAHA. You think because you are rich and fat that you are happy and content. No, you are just rich and fat. GROW UP. Not all people in Russia, China, Korea are miserable. SOme of them are probably much happier than you are, but not all of them. You can't put all people in a big bucket and think they are all the same. That's not the way it works.
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I was expecting that excuse. What about this

"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (Revelation 19:20, KJV).

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" (Revelation 21:8, KJV).
 Quoting: Ohwell


I never denied the Lake of fire, I even mentioned it in my last post. Just that is will not be eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2035985


Yes, I knew you would write your own scripture at some point.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:41
 Quoting: Ohwell


Again, it is a mistranslation. If you have a look at the link I posted, it will fill you in.
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I dont need a link. This is what the bible states CLEARLY. Or did god write that link?

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Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


And the many souls in African nations who have lived and died without ever knowing how to read talk-less of reading a bible.

Oh, and did I forget the 5 year old girl that could only communicate by mooing cause she lived with cows for 5 years? How come she could not speak a human language? I thought language is our intuition. So how come a persons intuition could be overridden by mooing? Would she or did she in her state of mind know about god?

Does this story sound similar to a person raised in the USonly being able to speak only english or a Russian speaking only Russian language? Could it be that our language is programming and merely noise and could mean absolutely nothing? How come this god didn't deem it fit to grant us the ability to speak/understand any/all words in any/all languages from childhood and we thereafter decide which one we like? Couldn't he do it? Yet the only way which most can know about him and his ways is through a book which he didn't grant them the ability to read from. Most even have to resort to the dictionary to read the bible. Did god write the dictionary or is truth stranger than fiction and we are indeed living in a lab....in a matrix? LOL
 Quoting: Ohwell


the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IS JUST AND FAIR....

we will be judged on only that which we know....not what we don't know.

GOD is the final JUDGE....

BUT HE IS FAIR, JUST and FAITHFUL and will give to everyone that which they have sowed.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


we will be judged on only that which we know....not what we don't know.

Please let me know the bible verse for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


What Jesus spoke in a parable:

“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. (Luke 12:47-48)
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Many, many times, like in the story of Jonah, GOD withheld HIS judgment/disaster upon a nation when they repented and turned back to HIM.



Jeremiah also mentions this many times....that the LORD will CHANGE HIS MIND, if the people ask for forgiveness and acknowledge HIM as ALMIGHTY GOD:


"Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his evil way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the disaster I was planning because of the evil they have done."

Jeremiah 26:3



and


"Now reform your ways and your actions and obey the LORD your God. Then the LORD will relent and not bring the disaster he has pronounced against you.'

Jeremia 26:13


************************************************************


SO, the question is, is JUDGMENT already at the doorstep of the nations ready to pour out....

is it too late?

Or can each one of us do our part in changing, not only our personal lives, but the course of history???

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


you have to prove there is a god first, moran
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Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


you know nothing of which you speak....

you only see the physical and not the spiritual....

you are looking at life through your own fleshy eyes...

we are in a spiritual battle here on earth....

the physical is only a glimpse of what is happening in the spirit.

there is evil, sickness and disease because of the FALLEN ONE....

It is not at GOD's hand that these evils happen.

It is because of the darkness that has come into the world, as well as man's sin and a love for this darkness.

You blame the wrong person!!!

A true trick of satan!

Don't be deceived anymore or blinded by this wicked one...

He tells you lies!

We live in a fallen world....good and evil...

GOD IS GOOD....

satan is evil....

pretty simple, hey???
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


You have been programmed wrong. You have a glitch in your computer programming. First off, who is this EVIL ONE you talk about? I hope it isn't the character, Satan, from the Bible. I hope you know that this God you love CREATED Satan, and God created him so that he could eventually destroy him some day. Satan will be tormented, forever and ever, by this God that you worship.

How many people did Satan kill in the Bible? Well, that would be ten. Those ten people were the family of Job and first he had to get permission from your evil Lord to do it. God, who is actually the EVIL character from your delusional book, gave him permission because he wanted to prove that Job was his slave.

How many men, women, children, infants, geriatric people, etc. did God kill? Well that would be well over THREE MILLION people. Why did he kill some of them? David did a census and he killed a couple thousand. He killed all the firstborn babies AFTER he blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh. That's right. God wanted to kill their children so he blinded the Pharoah so that he could prove that he was an evil barbarian. SATAN is EVIL??? are you kidding ??? God made people EAT their own children in Deuteronomy.

Listen, GO READ YOUR BIBLE. It is so obvious that you are just vomiting up crap you've been told was true. The REAL BIBLE tells a different story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


lol

you're funny...

you don't know me...

or who I am....

I know of what I speak....

there is a spiritual battle going on all around right now...I can see it.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


We know all that is needed. You worship a vile God.

That makes you vile.
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"The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness"

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Yes, peace to those who know him.

Any fiery hell to those who don't.

Visit a children's cancer ward. See the work of your God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11558137


you know nothing of which you speak....

you only see the physical and not the spiritual....

you are looking at life through your own fleshy eyes...

we are in a spiritual battle here on earth....

the physical is only a glimpse of what is happening in the spirit.

there is evil, sickness and disease because of the FALLEN ONE....

It is not at GOD's hand that these evils happen.

It is because of the darkness that has come into the world, as well as man's sin and a love for this darkness.

You blame the wrong person!!!

A true trick of satan!

Don't be deceived anymore or blinded by this wicked one...

He tells you lies!

We live in a fallen world....good and evil...

GOD IS GOOD....

satan is evil....

pretty simple, hey???
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


You have been programmed wrong. You have a glitch in your computer programming. First off, who is this EVIL ONE you talk about? I hope it isn't the character, Satan, from the Bible. I hope you know that this God you love CREATED Satan, and God created him so that he could eventually destroy him some day. Satan will be tormented, forever and ever, by this God that you worship.

How many people did Satan kill in the Bible? Well, that would be ten. Those ten people were the family of Job and first he had to get permission from your evil Lord to do it. God, who is actually the EVIL character from your delusional book, gave him permission because he wanted to prove that Job was his slave.

How many men, women, children, infants, geriatric people, etc. did God kill? Well that would be well over THREE MILLION people. Why did he kill some of them? David did a census and he killed a couple thousand. He killed all the firstborn babies AFTER he blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh. That's right. God wanted to kill their children so he blinded the Pharoah so that he could prove that he was an evil barbarian. SATAN is EVIL??? are you kidding ??? God made people EAT their own children in Deuteronomy.

Listen, GO READ YOUR BIBLE. It is so obvious that you are just vomiting up crap you've been told was true. The REAL BIBLE tells a different story.
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lol

you're funny...

you don't know me...

or who I am....

I know of what I speak....

there is a spiritual battle going on all around right now...I can see it.
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You are a fool and you know nothing. You PRETEND you know because your ego is so large that you can't imagine you don't have some sky daddy up there that you think gives a shit what you do. There is no one there. There is no spiritual battle going on. There is no spirit. Anything that is invisible is imaginary. You should have learned that lesson after you learned that Santa was a lie. There are no Gods, no angels, no demons, no Satan, no Santa, no spirits, etc. You live in an imaginary world that you created so that you don't have to face the horrible fact that you are an animal who has no soul and who will die and rot in the ground. That is too difficult for simpletons like you to believe so you create imaginary gods and demons. GROW UP.
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I don't think anyone will disagree with the idea that if we change our evil ways, the world will be better.
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Yes, why don't we start with America. We have a greater crime rate here than most any other country and we supposedly have some character named God that favors us. Go figure. Atheist countries have a much higher standard of living, less crime, more equality, etc. So if we are supposed to love each other, why are Christians so horrible, evil, angry and hateful to all those who don't think like they do? I have to wonder.
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I would suggest that those that lived, and are living, in the societies created by Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Il Sung would disagree with you.
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I talk to some people on the internet from Russia and they seem perfectly happy. Happiness does not always equate with RICHES. You think that you have freedom in America?? HAHA. You think because you are rich and fat that you are happy and content. No, you are just rich and fat. GROW UP. Not all people in Russia, China, Korea are miserable. SOme of them are probably much happier than you are, but not all of them. You can't put all people in a big bucket and think they are all the same. That's not the way it works.
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You can't be serious. Only a brief study of history will enlighten you to what a horrific, evil man Joseph Stalin, the atheist, was. And this flowed from the top down to the atheist government that he ruled.

Have you talked with anyone that lived under this regeim? I think we all know what the answer would be.
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Maybe God has changed His plans.
It already happened in the 60's when a nuclear war between USA and USSR was iminent.
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"The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness"

Exodus 36:4

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Back to Stockholm Syndrome.
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I never denied the Lake of fire, I even mentioned it in my last post. Just that is will not be eternal.
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Yes, I knew you would write your own scripture at some point.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:41
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Again, it is a mistranslation. If you have a look at the link I posted, it will fill you in.
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I dont need a link. This is what the bible states CLEARLY. Or did god write that link?
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The scribes translated the word wrong. One wrong mistranslation started all this nonsense. Do what you will.
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"The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness"

Exodus 36:4

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You can't just pick and choose the shit out of the Bible YOU like. Sure, you can do that but that puts you in danger of hell, according to the BIble. The Bible says that ANYONE WHO SUBTRACTS from scripture is going to hell. You can't just pick out all the good stuff and throw the bad stuff away. You have to believe the whole ball of wax, or whole ball of shit, as far as I'm concerned. All you need to do is grow up and get a life.
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Yes, I knew you would write your own scripture at some point.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:41
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Again, it is a mistranslation. If you have a look at the link I posted, it will fill you in.
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I dont need a link. This is what the bible states CLEARLY. Or did god write that link?
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The scribes translated the word wrong. One wrong mistranslation started all this nonsense. Do what you will.
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Scribes did not translate. Scribes wrote in the original Hebrew -- which is still available for translation. Also available is the original Greek of the New Testament.

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None of you know the real truth.

Not even me.

...Leave it at that.
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Yes, why don't we start with America. We have a greater crime rate here than most any other country and we supposedly have some character named God that favors us. Go figure. Atheist countries have a much higher standard of living, less crime, more equality, etc. So if we are supposed to love each other, why are Christians so horrible, evil, angry and hateful to all those who don't think like they do? I have to wonder.
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I would suggest that those that lived, and are living, in the societies created by Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Il Sung would disagree with you.
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I talk to some people on the internet from Russia and they seem perfectly happy. Happiness does not always equate with RICHES. You think that you have freedom in America?? HAHA. You think because you are rich and fat that you are happy and content. No, you are just rich and fat. GROW UP. Not all people in Russia, China, Korea are miserable. SOme of them are probably much happier than you are, but not all of them. You can't put all people in a big bucket and think they are all the same. That's not the way it works.
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You can't be serious. Only a brief study of history will enlighten you to what a horrific, evil man Joseph Stalin, the atheist, was. And this flowed from the top down to the atheist government that he ruled.

Have you talked with anyone that lived under this regeim? I think we all know what the answer would be.
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Yes, and Hitler was a Christian. What does that prove? Religion has nothing to do with it. There are good atheists and good Christians, just like there are bad atheists and bad Christians. Again, you lump everyone together and judge them as a group. You are so stupid that it is impossible to argue with you. Have you talked to anyone who lived under the regime of Joseph Stalin or Adolph Hitler? I think we all know what the answer would be. You see, two can play that silly game.
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Again, it is a mistranslation. If you have a look at the link I posted, it will fill you in.
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I dont need a link. This is what the bible states CLEARLY. Or did god write that link?
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The scribes translated the word wrong. One wrong mistranslation started all this nonsense. Do what you will.
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Scribes did not translate. Scribes wrote in the original Hebrew -- which is still available for translation. Also, the original Greek is available in the New Testament.
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I am talking New Testament from the Greek.
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2 Chronicles 7:14

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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None of you know the real truth.

Not even me.

...Leave it at that.
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No, I don't know everything. But I DO know that no man was ever born of a virgin. I know that a donkey didn't talk to some man while walking down a dusty road. I know that no big star in the sky led people to a stable. I know that no one can come back to life after being in the grave for days. I know that the sun did not stand still so some god warrior could kill more people for God.

There are some things we don't know, and then there are some things we DO know. AND if you can't prove if something is true or not, you have to suspend belief. Sorry but true.
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Amazing how pertinent replies (uncomfortable replies) get sidelined in favour of anythingnthat plays into christian fantasy...usually the devil.
No proof of the god of the bible, yahweh, jesus etc...ergo no god. So it's all a lot of pointless mass debating ;-)
Christians assume it a given god exists so it is impossible to make any headway whatsoever.
Let them play Dungeons & Dragons...the dice are loaded and the DM is out for pizza :-)
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Yes, I knew you would write your own scripture at some point.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:41
 Quoting: Ohwell


Again, it is a mistranslation. If you have a look at the link I posted, it will fill you in.
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I dont need a link. This is what the bible states CLEARLY. Or did god write that link?
 Quoting: Ohwell


The scribes translated the word wrong. One wrong mistranslation started all this nonsense. Do what you will.
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Hmmmm! OK, so you managed to pick apart a word the "scribes" (kind of the modern day "officials" as the MSM wild say) translated wrong. This word according to you is causing confusion.

However, this is the only word, according to you, that was mistranslated our of the almost a million other words in the bible or are there others? Will you tell this to the billions of souls reading this book?.

The consequences of this mistranslation is that there is fear and trepidation on the part of the reader which will cause them to have the wrong understanding of what the bible states. I cant even begin to emphasise to you the ramifications of what this wrong word you state imply. It has obviously divorced people away from their freewill and many other things that aren't supposed to happen.

The most interesting part is however the fact that every other word, according to you, is correct. Can you be this sure if you are unsure about the eternity word? Will you tell this to about 4 billion souls on this planet or perhaps write another version of the bible for them to correct this error?

Really! You amaze me with your insight.

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