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Was Castaneda Right?

 
Jonny Blaze

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Yes. Evidence of that can be seen with recent shooting in Aurora. The public reacted by buying guns in mass.

The 'mass suggestion' is failing because either people aren't paying attention, they have lost the ability to pay attention, or they are desensitized to the effects by building up some sort of tolerance to it.

I doubt the architects understand fully what is happening.

Speaking of the 'news'...feel free to check out my thread "The Personal Experience of Knowledge". I describe an intent driven experiment I conducted in '04 involving inner silence and live TV News broadcasting.

You may find it interesting.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Did you guys ever read a thread called "revelations of an elite family insider"? I believe it happened here on GLP, there is a pdf document containing a summary of all the things he said here [link to es.scribd.com]

There's an eerie part that matches a lot with what Castaneda said.

"Q: What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?
A: I have no children nor will I have one.The first thing a baby does when born is cry.It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief (you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you arenow).The Soul makes the body cry because it is the first time it came to this physical realm (althoughthis is a very limited number) or because it realises it has returned through reincarnation, afterfailing in the former life (which is a vast majority).The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yetthe impulses it gives makes the body cry.It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power,be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forgetfaster than others.

This crying is different to the crying that follows after the first few months, one can even hear it.Comfort them during this crucial period of consciousness and make it known that the One hasgifted them with a chance to return back to the place they belong.This will have an impact which will influence them for the rest of their lives, subconsciously.The time of birth was determined (as is the time of passing on), together with the enviroment,parents, circumstances of birth, health, etc...nothing is a coincidence.But during puberty they get cut loose from certain strings and they will be fully responsible fortheir actions, having the free will to lead the life they want, they determine the quality of it....theycan even determine the way they pass on ("death") by the choices they make but cannot changethe time of passing on.Just a few areas of their lives will be influenced by the tools that the parents have given them.Most of the child´s life will be based on free will, which will have very little to nothing to do withparents, you are only important in the first 5-6 years of the child´s life so that is where you can do most good."
"The world is incomprehensible. We won’t ever understand it; we won’t ever unravel its secrets. Thus we must treat the world as it is: a sheer mystery." - Carlos Castañeda
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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The answer is pretty simple...we have NOT existed for eternity. We were born, like a cockroach is born, and is stepped on by something bigger than itself. You will not live after you die and you did not live before you were born.
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A depressing outlook at the most extreme level.
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This is a lie to make you belive there is nothing afte death. So when the time comes to inroduce you to the singularity, you will have hope to live on in a machine. Will you take that chance of being wrong?
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Yes. Evidence of that can be seen with recent shooting in Aurora. The public reacted by buying guns in mass.

The 'mass suggestion' is failing because either people aren't paying attention, they have lost the ability to pay attention, or they are desensitized to the effects by building up some sort of tolerance to it.

I doubt the architects understand fully what is happening.

Speaking of the 'news'...feel free to check out my thread "The Personal Experience of Knowledge". I describe an intent driven experiment I conducted in '04 involving inner silence and live TV News broadcasting.

You may find it interesting.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


The more cameras they install and the harder they try to manufacture stories the more camerphones are being bought and used to gather and represent the truth. There is simply way too much info gathering by the public for the old tactics of image manipulation to work. It's getting easier and easier to see and see through the dishonesty coming from the media and I think that's why ratings are down.

Is a hail mary in the works? An attack on Iran? Another Lehman like domino collapse? An environmental game changer around the corner? Maybe.

Fortunately, I'm more optimistic now than I've been in years. Another billion smartphones are gonna be sold this year which means that transparency goes up exponentially.
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There is an interview of Castaneda by Theodore Roszack, the genius who wrote 'Flicker' on YouTube, which would interest many here. On I-pad, otherwise would link it.

Some here might also enjoy the Colin Wilson novel 'The Mind Parasites'.
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I hope you are right, my friend. I have seen no evidence of this. But if they exist as you describe...masterful stalkers...they would have infiltrated into the other camp leaving no visible sign of their intent. They would have to use some form of 'sorcery' undetectable to their enemies in order to coordinate, surveil, and plan without being detected.

This could only be done with masterful stalkers and dreamers working together while avoiding detection by both the opposing human element and inorganic being element.

It seems farfetched. But Castaneda's works did seed the possibility of such a thing.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


My favorite spiritual tradition is Taoism. It would suggest that for every "accomplished" evil/predatory being or evil secret society, there would exist and equally skillful/accomplished beneficial being. That all the evil/predatory/parasitic energy on this planet is indeed balanced by an equally motivated and enlightened counter group. Suggesting that the most powerful of both groups are hidden from one another and us.
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Perhaps you are right. I am naturally a cynic. I have viewed the situation as this:

The forces of 'evil' that seek to control the masses by killing once and for all mankind's connecting link with intent are indeed a small group. But their minions are numerous.

They have a fragile alliance amongst them. Competition amongst them is encouraged. They are in a system that is performance based, thus they try to outmaneuver each other for more power. The higher up you go in their system, the more 'perks' (indulgences) you get rewarded with. But at the same time, more pressure is put on you to produce.

This system exists because so few are in control of so many. It's a command and control styled system that insulates the elite of elite ruling class at the center, who must serve some sort of powerful inorganic/supernatural force.

So just as the inorganic beings have a pyramidal structure with the phantoms at the bottom, the human element has a mirror structure with the average black magician working class stiff at the bottom.

The inorganic beings are maneuvering for power as well...the parasitic element that you mentioned.

While there may be a counter class of warriors/men of knowledge/sorcerers fighting to preserve the eagles gift, there is no corresponding system. The counter force is headless/leaderless.

The only way to keep the system in check is to play on the competitive nature, the greed for power, inherent in the system. To amplify the struggle for greed among the wanna be elitists.

Get the factions to split. Divide them as they have divided the masses. Steer them into opportunistic conflicts amongst themselves. Give them a false sense of security. Get them to believe in their own lies.

Draw them out in the open and drown them like the sharks they are.
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Yes.

"To erase his memory Ra the people made"
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Amen?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Amen?
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Marduk/Amun/Ra/Germain
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
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"They" have a serious problem. "They" want to let as few people as possible in on the highest level secrets for obvious reasons. In order to control a lot of people while only letting a tiny few in on the true inner secrets, you need a lot of very tight centralized control and a whole lot of people in the dark. That's virtually impossible to do now. As a result, the loyalists are breaking off and re organizing. Truth is, they didn't even know they were loyalists. People don't stay in relationships as long, don't stay employed to the same employer as long and don't stay loyal to "secret groups" as long either. Everything is accelerating and that's a problem for centralized control.

Bottom line is we're growing faster than "they" are.
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Did you guys ever read a thread called "revelations of an elite family insider"? I believe it happened here on GLP, there is a pdf document containing a summary of all the things he said here [link to es.scribd.com]

There's an eerie part that matches a lot with what Castaneda said.

"Q: What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?
A: I have no children nor will I have one.The first thing a baby does when born is cry.It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief (you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you arenow).The Soul makes the body cry because it is the first time it came to this physical realm (althoughthis is a very limited number) or because it realises it has returned through reincarnation, afterfailing in the former life (which is a vast majority).The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yetthe impulses it gives makes the body cry.It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power,be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forgetfaster than others.

This crying is different to the crying that follows after the first few months, one can even hear it.Comfort them during this crucial period of consciousness and make it known that the One hasgifted them with a chance to return back to the place they belong.This will have an impact which will influence them for the rest of their lives, subconsciously.The time of birth was determined (as is the time of passing on), together with the enviroment,parents, circumstances of birth, health, etc...nothing is a coincidence.But during puberty they get cut loose from certain strings and they will be fully responsible fortheir actions, having the free will to lead the life they want, they determine the quality of it....theycan even determine the way they pass on ("death") by the choices they make but cannot changethe time of passing on.Just a few areas of their lives will be influenced by the tools that the parents have given them.Most of the child´s life will be based on free will, which will have very little to nothing to do withparents, you are only important in the first 5-6 years of the child´s life so that is where you can do most good."
 Quoting: soulreaper


What I find interesting about this and what Castaneda wrote about this subject is that many of them...Carlitos, Don Matus, La Gorda, Pablito's mom (can't remember her name at the moment), etc.....had children.

They were all patched up by other 'sorcerers'. Thus they were all bonded together and took on aspects of each other, like a energetic family.

If everyone stopped having kids, there would be no more eagle's gift for us...we'd all die out as a species.

Quite the conundrum.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
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"They" have a serious problem. "They" want to let as few people as possible in on the highest level secrets for obvious reasons. In order to control a lot of people while only letting a tiny few in on the true inner secrets, you need a lot of very tight centralized control and a whole lot of people in the dark. That's virtually impossible to do now. As a result, the loyalists are breaking off and re organizing. Truth is, they didn't even know they were loyalists. People don't stay in relationships as long, don't stay employed to the same employer as long and don't stay loyal to "secret groups" as long either. Everything is accelerating and that's a problem for centralized control.

Bottom line is we're growing faster than "they" are.
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I suspect they've been hording their precious secrets so long that the outliers (wilders for lack of a better term) have developed a whole different type of intent based knowledge.

Do you think that the highest levels of 'them' knew anything at all about Don Matus's lineage?...that it even existed?

Of course they know now...it's in print. But before Carlos met Matus....do you think they knew of them or perceived them as a threat?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
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Do you think that the highest levels of 'them' knew anything at all about Don Matus's lineage?...that it even existed?

Of course they know now...it's in print. But before Carlos met Matus....do you think they knew of them or perceived them as a threat?
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Think there has been a highly motivated centuries long effort to extinguish as much of the indigenous/shamanic knowledge on the planet as possible. I think there has been an understanding that mastery of ritual by other "groups" was a threat. So, think their efforts were more macro to just take out as much as possible kinda like carpet bombing but surely some groups escaped notice and knowledge was protected. No doubt the Kogi in Colombia somehow escaped as well.

Knowledge escaped though ... it got out of Tibet, India and many of the obscure (Castaneda, included) indigenous traditions and the cumulative effect of all this knowledge circulating around has been significant. It has helped many to shake off the amnesia of our Western traditions. That is why so many "non-aligned" business leaders (Jobs was certainly one of them) struck out on their own to create things that aligned with a different world view ... one of freeing the human spirit ... Thankfully.
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Well, OP,

It has been a most enjoyable pleasure conversing with you. I am going to sign off now.

Perhaps we will converse again in the future. If so, I am most definitely looking forward to it.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Well, OP,

It has been a most enjoyable pleasure conversing with you. I am going to sign off now.

Perhaps we will converse again in the future. If so, I am most definitely looking forward to it.
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Be well! A pleasure indeed.
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Have you read or heard of David dIcke? or Credo Mutwa? their work and information is amazing and thus relates to this predatory race that resides in the gray area of sight.
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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Yes we are ALL infinite and eternal beings but the 3D reality brain we have is incapable of storing, let alone remembering the infinite! We all have access to ALL information in small limited doses as is required. It also means that there is no being in eternity greater than another, however, our NOW is what separates us and makes it appear that there are greater and lessor beings. You might say that our NOW or the MOMENT that we pass through is the REAL illusion!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Have you read or heard of David dIcke? or Credo Mutwa? their work and information is amazing and thus relates to this predatory race that resides in the gray area of sight.
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Yes ... am familiar with it. It's possible they could be referring to the same thing. Although Icke has never "seen" it himself, just reports on what he finds through research.

Read not too long ago a transcription of a supposed interview with a Grey from decades ago with very detailed information about how humans on the earth undergo a debilitating memory destruction in between incarnations. Lined up perfectly with what Castaneda said.

What I find most fascinating is why human babies come into this world with almost no functioning memory whereas most other mammals are much more capable at birth.
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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Yes we are ALL infinite and eternal beings but the 3D reality brain we have is incapable of storing, let alone remembering the infinite!
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Why is it then that a wildebeest is able to run with the herd almost immediately after birth? Why isn't their memory as dysfunctional as ours?

Typical answer ... "Animal Instinct" ... what exactly is that if it is not memory?
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[link to www.scribd.com]
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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Yes we are ALL infinite and eternal beings but the 3D reality brain we have is incapable of storing, let alone remembering the infinite!
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Why is it then that a wildebeest is able to run with the herd almost immediately after birth? Why isn't their memory as dysfunctional as ours?

Typical answer ... "Animal Instinct" ... what exactly is that if it is not memory?
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It probably is a memory just as a plant knows to grow towards the light. However, in their NOW, neither a wildebeest nor a plant are capable of nor possibly even the desire to access more than they need! Humans want to know it ALL and know it all NOW. It's just not possible yet we are able to access some of it as needed or desired! Hence our ability to come up with new thought or original from seemingly nowhere.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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It probably is a memory just as a plant knows to grow towards the light. However, in their NOW, neither a wildebeest nor a plant are capable of nor possibly even the desire to access more than they need! Humans want to know it ALL and know it all NOW. It's just not possible yet we are able to access some of it as needed or desired! Hence our ability to come up with new thought or original from seemingly nowhere.
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Any theory or explanation as to why humans come into this life with virtually no useful memory at all? And, why it takes us so long to get with it? Most of us can't even walk until 10 months ... at least. And even then, we're pretty helpless.
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It probably is a memory just as a plant knows to grow towards the light. However, in their NOW, neither a wildebeest nor a plant are capable of nor possibly even the desire to access more than they need! Humans want to know it ALL and know it all NOW. It's just not possible yet we are able to access some of it as needed or desired! Hence our ability to come up with new thought or original from seemingly nowhere.
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Any theory or explanation as to why humans come into this life with virtually no useful memory at all? And, why it takes us so long to get with it? Most of us can't even walk until 10 months ... at least. And even then, we're pretty helpless.
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Theories are a plenty but each case, each human, each being is individual in their experience! Point in case - myself! I can't tell you why or how but my earliest memory of this life was the day my mother took me home from after being hospital after being born. When I was old enough to speak with words, I asked her about certain things I remembered and she told me it was that day. The interesting thing is that in the memory, I knew what a bus was, what the grass and the roads were and what a storm was, I also clearly remember my mother speaking as she ran with me to avoid the storm - understood every word.
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It probably is a memory just as a plant knows to grow towards the light. However, in their NOW, neither a wildebeest nor a plant are capable of nor possibly even the desire to access more than they need! Humans want to know it ALL and know it all NOW. It's just not possible yet we are able to access some of it as needed or desired! Hence our ability to come up with new thought or original from seemingly nowhere.
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Any theory or explanation as to why humans come into this life with virtually no useful memory at all? And, why it takes us so long to get with it? Most of us can't even walk until 10 months ... at least. And even then, we're pretty helpless.
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Such a situation does make attunement to the feelings of others acquire quite a high survival value. Fortunately, we are innately 'cute' at that age, with a bit of luck.
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I have to go and will be gone for several hours but will check in when I get back.. Cheers
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All babies, I'd reckon, are appealing to their mother father ... at least most.

Coming into this world with no functional memory sets us up for a belief system that begins with utter and complete dependency. We are programmed from day one to need and accept help from authoritative humans. It's interesting when you think about it.
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he was a little horseshitter.

good writer though!
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He was right about a lot of things, that's for sure. Lots and lots of motivation to prove he was a fraud ... nonetheless, he put together a lot of absolutely staggering ideas in an incredibly easy to understand narrative. One of the most influential writers of the 20th century.
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bump he had a big influence on me.
howdy
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When he stated that our memories have been replaced with a false identity by a predator that dominates our 3D reality?
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I think so. I believe he's just talking about subpersonalities the same way psychologist Karl Jung did.
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Definitely not. He spends a lot of time describing a real predator that co-exists with us, just beyond our normal observable reality that has replaced our memories with an artificial memory that renders us helpless to their plan which is, of course, to feed on our energy. He was very clear that this is a real, observable entity (to sorcerers) that is a formidable adversary to humans.
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i find it to be true. it's why sheeple are cultivated. ez power source. deals in quantity, not quality.
howdy
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bump he had a big influence on me.


I think he had a huge influence on a lot of people. It's hard to find a more convincing and coherent narrative of what human potential really is.
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


"They" have a serious problem. "They" want to let as few people as possible in on the highest level secrets for obvious reasons. In order to control a lot of people while only letting a tiny few in on the true inner secrets, you need a lot of very tight centralized control and a whole lot of people in the dark. That's virtually impossible to do now. As a result, the loyalists are breaking off and re organizing. Truth is, they didn't even know they were loyalists. People don't stay in relationships as long, don't stay employed to the same employer as long and don't stay loyal to "secret groups" as long either. Everything is accelerating and that's a problem for centralized control.

Bottom line is we're growing faster than "they" are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17420132

yep. i think population control has been on their mind a lot.
they be looking pretty busy at the moment..
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