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Was Castaneda Right?

 
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yep. i think population control has been on their mind a lot.
they be looking pretty busy at the moment..
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If we are a source of energy for them, why would they want population control? More likely they'd want us breeding like rats, which is exactly what we're doing.
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bump he had a big influence on me.


I think he had a huge influence on a lot of people. It's hard to find a more convincing and coherent narrative of what human potential really is.



his early books had a lot of good practical advise for warriors.

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yep. i think population control has been on their mind a lot.
they be looking pretty busy at the moment..
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If we are a source of energy for them, why would they want population control? More likely they'd want us breeding like rats, which is exactly what we're doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17420132

too many too smart now. they're afraid of us coming at them with pitchforks.
depopulation. they have got what they need from this farm. it's excess baggage to them now, they think they can start over with their most dedicated sheeple to attend them, and what not.
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
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Depends on which "they" you mean. Typical human thugs (of whatever skill level, wealth, or status) just use whatever tools they can to crush, detroy and steal - period. They want their opponants utterly destroyed. No matter how sophisticated they have been toaught to act, their motivation is always the same - kill, eat, kill, eat, ad nauseum.

But they have handlers.

The real PTB are not human. They exist in astral form, and are parasitical. But the methods they use to create and control their thugs (astral, human, energetic, or whatever) come from what is euphemistically known as "black magic." And the laws of how black magic actually works has a cucial, underlying principle - the energy that is stolen for use must, in some way, be voluntarily given. Because those who do balck magic have no energy of their own - by definition. Evil creates no new thing, to the conrary of how Good always creates new energy. Evil only destroys and eats.

Thus, evils utter obsession with word games - with lies. But very careful lies. Lies which hold clues to the fact they are lies. Clues which can be pointed to, and then used to claim that the victim was given everything necessary "to have known," and therefore, they agreed to be victimized. And therefore, the energy stolen from them can be used to power more black magic.

Thus, the perpetual "two-edged swords." The perpetual massive inefficiency of evil and black magic. Because people - victims - DO catch on and fight back. And the black magicians themselves also use that other side of the lie to save themselves from the results of their main lie. So, inevitably, the truth gets out.

Understanding that process, that structure, is the main work of what Don Juan called "sorcery." For most of remain free from the attacks of black magic are simply recognizing its lie in the first place, and knowing that that lie could only exist if there was a truth it was hiding - and then looking for the truth you KNOW is there. And after awhile, a sorcerer learns to recognize patterns of truth-hiding that evil uses, and uses and uses, because by definition, it is not creative.

One who understands these things in real life, and practices recognizing them (usually by being attacked again and again) becomes trained by evil itself, about the workings of evil. In this way, long-term evil automatically builds up training in the warriors who will someday, inevitably, destroy it.

That is karma.

That is what's about to happen on this planet.

That is why TPTB are running amuck with fear right now.
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yep. i think population control has been on their mind a lot.
they be looking pretty busy at the moment..
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If we are a source of energy for them, why would they want population control? More likely they'd want us breeding like rats, which is exactly what we're doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17420132
besides, only certain ones are energy for them, me i am toxic for them, they cannot tolerate me.
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Why do they keep giving us double edged swords?

Don't they wish us disarmed?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze

Depends on which "they" you mean. Typical human thugs (of whatever skill level, wealth, or status) just use whatever tools they can to crush, detroy and steal - period. They want their opponants utterly destroyed. No matter how sophisticated they have been toaught to act, their motivation is always the same - kill, eat, kill, eat, ad nauseum.

But they have handlers.

The real PTB are not human. They exist in astral form, and are parasitical. But the methods they use to create and control their thugs (astral, human, energetic, or whatever) come from what is euphemistically known as "black magic." And the laws of how black magic actually works has a cucial, underlying principle - the energy that is stolen for use must, in some way, be voluntarily given. Because those who do balck magic have no energy of their own - by definition. Evil creates no new thing, to the conrary of how Good always creates new energy. Evil only destroys and eats.

Thus, evils utter obsession with word games - with lies. But very careful lies. Lies which hold clues to the fact they are lies. Clues which can be pointed to, and then used to claim that the victim was given everything necessary "to have known," and therefore, they agreed to be victimized. And therefore, the energy stolen from them can be used to power more black magic.

Thus, the perpetual "two-edged swords." The perpetual massive inefficiency of evil and black magic. Because people - victims - DO catch on and fight back. And the black magicians themselves also use that other side of the lie to save themselves from the results of their main lie. So, inevitably, the truth gets out.

Understanding that process, that structure, is the main work of what Don Juan called "sorcery." For most of remain free from the attacks of black magic are simply recognizing its lie in the first place, and knowing that that lie could only exist if there was a truth it was hiding - and then looking for the truth you KNOW is there. And after awhile, a sorcerer learns to recognize patterns of truth-hiding that evil uses, and uses and uses, because by definition, it is not creative.

One who understands these things in real life, and practices recognizing them (usually by being attacked again and again) becomes trained by evil itself, about the workings of evil. In this way, long-term evil automatically builds up training in the warriors who will someday, inevitably, destroy it.

That is karma.

That is what's about to happen on this planet.

That is why TPTB are running amuck with fear right now.
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the parasites. i call them the 5th dimensional hags. they ride people..
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When he stated that our memories have been replaced with a false identity by a predator that dominates our 3D reality?
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I like Castaneda's earlier books. You have to realize, he's not describing his own beliefs, but that of the Yacqui shaman (Don Juan Matus). Language was a bit of an issue, which leads to the necessity for proper interpretation. When writing about his experiences with Don Juan, he first wrote it down with complete objectivity (he was a trained Anthropologist); that's why some of it is rather humorous, because it seems so foreign to non-Indians... then, he would try to figure out the meanings for himself. I personally tend to disregard Castaneda's own interpretations, choosing to try to interpret Don Juan's teachings for myself.

That said, I think that there is some truth in that statement. Don Juan spoke of an ancient time, when terrifying sorcerers fed like cannibals and vampires on innocent Human beings. He said that's why shaman learned defensive skills, such as astral travel, etc. Otherwise, there would have been a ~complete genocide of Humans, rather than almost. He was one of the few elders who kept the memories of those ancient wars from being lost forever. I think we'd be wise to heed his warnings, because I believe that such events are cyclical, and that we are now going through essentially the exact same nightmare, just in another (what we call, "modern") time.
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How can we "come at them" if we can't even see them?
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How can we "come at them" if we can't even see them?
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By seeing what they do. By recognizing their patterns and not playing into them. As Jesus said - "you will know them by their fruit." Note he did not say you would see them - but what they do.

How do you spot a liar? How do you spot a cheat? Why do you think dumbing down the population is so incredibly important to TPTB?

And what is THE greatest offence in the modern world? Why, nothing other than the word for THE ability that exposes the evil:

Discrimination.
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My take is he was/is a powerful sorcerer that took a very strange detour that permanently changed his path beyond his ability to control. The knowledge he brought in exchange was a fair trade. Perhaps he played a significant role in moving the lineage away from dark sorcery as well. That part of the Castaneda story I always found difficult to decipher.
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plain as day to me. he went to the other side of the ragged edge of crazy to experience more. everyone's mind is so narrow and limited but reality is infinite and endless; he went beyond normal human understanding.

knowledge is power. that's the reason for anything he did.
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How can we "come at them" if we can't even see them?
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By seeing what they do. By recognizing their patterns and not playing into them. As Jesus said - "you will know them by their fruit." Note he did not say you would see them - but what they do.

How do you spot a liar? How do you spot a cheat? Why do you think dumbing down the population is so incredibly important to TPTB?

And what is THE greatest offence in the modern world? Why, nothing other than the word for THE ability that exposes the evil:

Discrimination.
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OK, we're talking about different things. I"m talking about the predator that Castaneda identifies as being responsible for humans memory problems. This predator is not visible to our ordinary awareness. It seems you're talking about people that are in our visible world.

Castaneda said repeatedly that we are way overpowered by the predator and have no hope of matching their power but can escape their grasp ... different objective, of course than taking them out.
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plain as day to me. he went to the other side of the ragged edge of crazy to experience more. everyone's mind is so narrow and limited but reality is infinite and endless; he went beyond normal human understanding.

knowledge is power. that's the reason for anything he did.
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So why did he keep coming back to that warrior lineage generation after generation?
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While there may be a counter class of warriors/men of knowledge/sorcerers fighting to preserve the eagles gift, there is no corresponding system. The counter force is headless/leaderless.
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Not true. The leader of the counter-force is here. He is the person referred to on this site as the "Nobody."

The reason the Nobody meme was started by TPTB, and allowed to continue, was and is to trash the reality of this person.

But its just another black magic technique, and as such, it doesn't rate squat. This leader incarnated into captivity to serve a very important purpose - that of allowing himself to be recognized by TPTB. The utter destruction of evil that he represents - and guarantees - requires a full opportunity for evil to stand down, knowingly, in the face of its certain death, and admit its error, and surrender.

In such an event - and only in such an event - this leader is bound to accept that surrender.

Note, the survival of this leader, and his unleashing of the total destruction of evil on this planet, does not require his "escape" from "captivity." Because that destruction, if required, will be unleashed by transdimensional assets (UFOs, in the vernacular) that TPTB are already WELL aware are ALREADY in place (and I'm not talking about the reptilians or greys. They are part of the rodentry that will be destroyed). And there will be no war - the powers that will be used require no fighting, and no time.

All that is required is that the leader be here, and the offer be made, for a certain amount of time. And he is, and it has been.

And that time is almost up.
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OK, we're talking about different things. I"m talking about the predator that Castaneda identifies as being responsible for humans memory problems. This predator is not visible to our ordinary awareness. It seems you're talking about people that are in our visible world.

Castaneda said repeatedly that we are way overpowered by the predator and have no hope of matching their power but can escape their grasp ... different objective, of course than taking them out.
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There are levels of predator. The deeper into the astral "hell realms" you go, the more the environment of those realms directly helps the predators who live there. BUT - the farther they are away from the human realms. So their problem is how to get to the physical human realms safely, to eat the tasty energy in the people there.

Then you have the cycles of time, when the Light is stronger, then weaker, then stronger again. Obviously, predators like the times of darkness here. But now the Light is growing strong again. So it's much harder to use the old indirect methods to get power, control and energy food at a distance, because the systemic mechanisms of control are breaking down or becoming unreliable.

So, a lot of the more powerful demons have given up, because they won't leave their hells. But others have rolled up their sleeves and come here themselves.

They do this through possession.

And if you know what to look for, you can see them, quite clearly. They are very different from a fucked up human, or an evil human. They aren't an "evil human" - they are an incarnation of evil in a human body. There's a big difference.
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The Adventures of Don Peyote.

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OK, we're talking about different things. I"m talking about the predator that Castaneda identifies as being responsible for humans memory problems. This predator is not visible to our ordinary awareness. It seems you're talking about people that are in our visible world.

Castaneda said repeatedly that we are way overpowered by the predator and have no hope of matching their power but can escape their grasp ... different objective, of course than taking them out.
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There are levels of predator. The deeper into the astral "hell realms" you go, the more the environment of those realms directly helps the predators who live there. BUT - the farther they are away from the human realms. So their problem is how to get to the physical human realms safely, to eat the tasty energy in the people there.

Then you have the cycles of time, when the Light is stronger, then weaker, then stronger again. Obviously, predators like the times of darkness here. But now the Light is growing strong again. So it's much harder to use the old indirect methods to get power, control and energy food at a distance, because the systemic mechanisms of control are breaking down or becoming unreliable.

So, a lot of the more powerful demons have given up, because they won't leave their hells. But others have rolled up their sleeves and come here themselves.[
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What evidence do you have that the light is stronger now than it was 40 years ago? AT least strong enough to repel the predators he wrote about?
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It doesn't matter if 'Castaneda' (lol) was/is right or not.

Ask the question 'By what/whom was 'Castaneda' inspired?'

The answer, imo. would be different for the 70ies and 80ies, and completely different for todays age/time.

The atmosphere so to speak, has changed drastically.

There is no life to be found anymore within those writings. They have been rendered, put into a FORM, statistically/socially/psychologically/spiritually analyzed and stored within a box at a 'warehouse' gathering 'dust', nevertheless.... there is certainly truth to be found within the writings of 'Castaneda' and his fellows.

'Castaneda' used the 'gift' of the parasite to communicate/reveal the parasites themselves. This 'gift' were his 'thoughts expressed with words', communicated with a certain atmosphere where the parasites have no access.

TV/RADIO/MSM/PEOPLE/WRITTEN WORDS/THOUGHTS/SPEAKING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHITE NOISE OF THE PARASITES.

We are not thought-beings, we are magical mysterious beings.

'Stop the inner dialogue'

don't try to understand the technique

do it! or let it be!
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It doesn't matter if 'Castaneda' (lol) was/is right or not.

Ask the question 'By what/whom was 'Castaneda' inspired?'

The answer, imo. would be different for the 70ies and 80ies, and completely different for todays age/time.

The atmosphere so to speak, has changed drastically.

There is no life to be found anymore within those writings. They have been rendered, put into a FORM, statistically/socially/psychologically/spiritually analyzed and stored within a box at a 'warehouse' gathering 'dust', nevertheless.... there is certainly truth to be found within the writings of 'Castaneda' and his fellows.

'Castaneda' used the 'gift' of the parasite to communicate/reveal the parasites themselves. This 'gift' were his 'thoughts expressed with words', communicated with a certain atmosphere where the parasites have no access.

TV/RADIO/MSM/PEOPLE/WRITTEN WORDS/THOUGHTS/SPEAKING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHITE NOISE OF THE PARASITES.

We are not thought-beings, we are magical mysterious beings.

'Stop the inner dialogue'

don't try to understand the technique

do it! or let it be!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20295459


agree. archon 8th level thread has surpassed Castaneda in depth and understanding by a long shot, albeit some of the posts could be from the deepest web if you know what i mean
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agree. archon 8th level thread has surpassed Castaneda in depth and understanding by a long shot, albeit some of the posts could be from the deepest web if you know what i mean
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Could you be more specific about what this means? Have no idea what you're referring to here.
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It doesn't matter if 'Castaneda' (lol) was/is right or not.

Ask the question 'By what/whom was 'Castaneda' inspired?'

The answer, imo. would be different for the 70ies and 80ies, and completely different for todays age/time.

The atmosphere so to speak, has changed drastically.

There is no life to be found anymore within those writings. They have been rendered, put into a FORM, statistically/socially/psychologically/spiritually analyzed and stored within a box at a 'warehouse' gathering 'dust', nevertheless.... there is certainly truth to be found within the writings of 'Castaneda' and his fellows.

'Castaneda' used the 'gift' of the parasite to communicate/reveal the parasites themselves. This 'gift' were his 'thoughts expressed with words', communicated with a certain atmosphere where the parasites have no access.

TV/RADIO/MSM/PEOPLE/WRITTEN WORDS/THOUGHTS/SPEAKING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHITE NOISE OF THE PARASITES.

We are not thought-beings, we are magical mysterious beings.

'Stop the inner dialogue'

don't try to understand the technique

do it! or let it be!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20295459


agree. archon 8th level thread has surpassed Castaneda in depth and understanding by a long shot, albeit some of the posts could be from the deepest web if you know what i mean
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16833876


8th level? archons?

A parasitic system is dependent on linearity and hierarchies. It is a sado-masochistic-life-sucking system of lies which creates our current 'Reality'. Of course you can become a 'Spider', learn about 'The Web' and roam 'The Web'. This can/will give you a certain security within what they call (rendered as) 'life' as you know it while roaming 'The Web'. 99% of Humanity is roaming 'The Web', mostly unknowingly. Then, some are a little bit more curious. Even then, those 99%+ point/glue their 'Intention' to 'The Web', knowingly or unknowingly. Some get sucked into the abyss, cause 'The Web' sucks their energy out of them and they've gotten 'LAZY' cause of the life-sucking properties of 'The Web'. The system of 'The Web' is inherently designed to kill/destroy!

'Imagine there is a war and nobody joins that war'

There will be many paradoxons coming your way when you decide to nullify the influence of 'The Web', until it dawns on you that those paradoxons are part of 'The Web' itself. In the very instant of this realization 'The Web' will loosen its grip on you, depending on your personal energy level, it will even catapult yourself as far away as possible from itself (like a trampolin).

As it seems at this point in time, more and more humans will be catapulted into the unknown, a very disturbing place at the beginning. Some of us are here to look after those ones.
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It doesn't matter if 'Castaneda' (lol) was/is right or not.

Ask the question 'By what/whom was 'Castaneda' inspired?'

The answer, imo. would be different for the 70ies and 80ies, and completely different for todays age/time.

The atmosphere so to speak, has changed drastically.

There is no life to be found anymore within those writings. They have been rendered, put into a FORM, statistically/socially/psychologically/spiritually analyzed and stored within a box at a 'warehouse' gathering 'dust', nevertheless.... there is certainly truth to be found within the writings of 'Castaneda' and his fellows.

'Castaneda' used the 'gift' of the parasite to communicate/reveal the parasites themselves. This 'gift' were his 'thoughts expressed with words', communicated with a certain atmosphere where the parasites have no access.

TV/RADIO/MSM/PEOPLE/WRITTEN WORDS/THOUGHTS/SPEAKING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHITE NOISE OF THE PARASITES.

We are not thought-beings, we are magical mysterious beings.

'Stop the inner dialogue'

don't try to understand the technique

do it! or let it be!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20295459


agree. archon 8th level thread has surpassed Castaneda in depth and understanding by a long shot, albeit some of the posts could be from the deepest web if you know what i mean
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16833876


8th level? archons?

A parasitic system is dependent on linearity and hierarchies. It is a sado-masochistic-life-sucking system of lies which creates our current 'Reality'. Of course you can become a 'Spider', learn about 'The Web' and roam 'The Web'. This can/will give you a certain security within what they call (rendered as) 'life' as you know it while roaming 'The Web'. 99% of Humanity is roaming 'The Web', mostly unknowingly. Then, some are a little bit more curious. Even then, those 99%+ point/glue their 'Intention' to 'The Web', knowingly or unknowingly. Some get sucked into the abyss, cause 'The Web' sucks their energy out of them and they've gotten 'LAZY' cause of the life-sucking properties of 'The Web'. The system of 'The Web' is inherently designed to kill/destroy!

'Imagine there is a war and nobody joins that war'

There will be many paradoxons coming your way when you decide to nullify the influence of 'The Web', until it dawns on you that those paradoxons are part of 'The Web' itself. In the very instant of this realization 'The Web' will loosen its grip on you, depending on your personal energy level, it will even catapult yourself as far away as possible from itself (like a trampolin).

As it seems at this point in time, more and more humans will be catapulted into the unknown, a very disturbing place at the beginning. Some of us are here to look after those ones.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply but was actually asking about the thread you referenced????
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Yes. Evidence of that can be seen with recent shooting in Aurora. The public reacted by buying guns in mass.

The 'mass suggestion' is failing because either people aren't paying attention, they have lost the ability to pay attention, or they are desensitized to the effects by building up some sort of tolerance to it.

I doubt the architects understand fully what is happening.

Speaking of the 'news'...feel free to check out my thread "The Personal Experience of Knowledge". I describe an intent driven experiment I conducted in '04 involving inner silence and live TV News broadcasting.

You may find it interesting.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


The more cameras they install and the harder they try to manufacture stories the more camerphones are being bought and used to gather and represent the truth. There is simply way too much info gathering by the public for the old tactics of image manipulation to work. It's getting easier and easier to see and see through the dishonesty coming from the media and I think that's why ratings are down.

Is a hail mary in the works? An attack on Iran? Another Lehman like domino collapse? An environmental game changer around the corner? Maybe.

Fortunately, I'm more optimistic now than I've been in years. Another billion smartphones are gonna be sold this year which means that transparency goes up exponentially.
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This is an amazing thread, I do not have much to add, rather content to sit and read ...

One observation, the increasing ease with which we share data across many platforms is, in my view, the beginnings of the birth of a true global social memory complex, and although inorganic at the start, will evolve into the organic eventually. Once that happens, "control" will be almost impossible to achieve let alone maintain. It's happening now.
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It doesn't matter if 'Castaneda' (lol) was/is right or not.

Ask the question 'By what/whom was 'Castaneda' inspired?'

The answer, imo. would be different for the 70ies and 80ies, and completely different for todays age/time.

The atmosphere so to speak, has changed drastically.

There is no life to be found anymore within those writings. They have been rendered, put into a FORM, statistically/socially/psychologically/spiritually analyzed and stored within a box at a 'warehouse' gathering 'dust', nevertheless.... there is certainly truth to be found within the writings of 'Castaneda' and his fellows.

'Castaneda' used the 'gift' of the parasite to communicate/reveal the parasites themselves. This 'gift' were his 'thoughts expressed with words', communicated with a certain atmosphere where the parasites have no access.

TV/RADIO/MSM/PEOPLE/WRITTEN WORDS/THOUGHTS/SPEAKING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHITE NOISE OF THE PARASITES.

We are not thought-beings, we are magical mysterious beings.

'Stop the inner dialogue'

don't try to understand the technique

do it! or let it be!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20295459


agree. archon 8th level thread has surpassed Castaneda in depth and understanding by a long shot, albeit some of the posts could be from the deepest web if you know what i mean
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8th level? archons?

A parasitic system is dependent on linearity and hierarchies. It is a sado-masochistic-life-sucking system of lies which creates our current 'Reality'. Of course you can become a 'Spider', learn about 'The Web' and roam 'The Web'. This can/will give you a certain security within what they call (rendered as) 'life' as you know it while roaming 'The Web'. 99% of Humanity is roaming 'The Web', mostly unknowingly. Then, some are a little bit more curious. Even then, those 99%+ point/glue their 'Intention' to 'The Web', knowingly or unknowingly. Some get sucked into the abyss, cause 'The Web' sucks their energy out of them and they've gotten 'LAZY' cause of the life-sucking properties of 'The Web'. The system of 'The Web' is inherently designed to kill/destroy!

'Imagine there is a war and nobody joins that war'

There will be many paradoxons coming your way when you decide to nullify the influence of 'The Web', until it dawns on you that those paradoxons are part of 'The Web' itself. In the very instant of this realization 'The Web' will loosen its grip on you, depending on your personal energy level, it will even catapult yourself as far away as possible from itself (like a trampolin).

As it seems at this point in time, more and more humans will be catapulted into the unknown, a very disturbing place at the beginning. Some of us are here to look after those ones.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply but was actually asking about the thread you referenced????
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

be careful in there. shills have been hexed, SS vanished from GLP due to this thread, and people report strange shit from it. especially psychics. and the original posters have recently returned, so...
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agree. archon 8th level thread has surpassed Castaneda in depth and understanding by a long shot, albeit some of the posts could be from the deepest web if you know what i mean
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8th level? archons?

A parasitic system is dependent on linearity and hierarchies. It is a sado-masochistic-life-sucking system of lies which creates our current 'Reality'. Of course you can become a 'Spider', learn about 'The Web' and roam 'The Web'. This can/will give you a certain security within what they call (rendered as) 'life' as you know it while roaming 'The Web'. 99% of Humanity is roaming 'The Web', mostly unknowingly. Then, some are a little bit more curious. Even then, those 99%+ point/glue their 'Intention' to 'The Web', knowingly or unknowingly. Some get sucked into the abyss, cause 'The Web' sucks their energy out of them and they've gotten 'LAZY' cause of the life-sucking properties of 'The Web'. The system of 'The Web' is inherently designed to kill/destroy!

'Imagine there is a war and nobody joins that war'

There will be many paradoxons coming your way when you decide to nullify the influence of 'The Web', until it dawns on you that those paradoxons are part of 'The Web' itself. In the very instant of this realization 'The Web' will loosen its grip on you, depending on your personal energy level, it will even catapult yourself as far away as possible from itself (like a trampolin).

As it seems at this point in time, more and more humans will be catapulted into the unknown, a very disturbing place at the beginning. Some of us are here to look after those ones.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply but was actually asking about the thread you referenced????
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

be careful in there. shills have been hexed, SS vanished from GLP due to this thread, and people report strange shit from it. especially psychics. and the original posters have recently returned, so...
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yeah, SS did disappear after posting in there. and i've seen threads claiming it's a govt mind fuck. there are crazy links to all kinds of shit, and it does warp you.
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bullshitting cult leader. as usual somebody's gotta die over it. but it wasn't him.. he died in LA!!! lmao



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carlos says..

"you have a vagina just like my daughter... that's why i like it so much!!!" lmao
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be careful in there. shills have been hexed, SS vanished from GLP due to this thread, and people report strange shit from it. especially psychics. and the original posters have recently returned, so...
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yeah, SS did disappear after posting in there. and i've seen threads claiming it's a govt mind fuck. there are crazy links to all kinds of shit, and it does warp you.
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This thread (just browsed a bit, but not in great depth) is a very different "approach" to extracting ourselves from the control of the predators ... Certainly there's a place for the Matrix like hacking in kinda thinking, but Castaneda was about a transformation of personal power and a spiritual development component that is, at least from my view, far more potent than a computer programming task.

Just one man's opinion.
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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Op, to me I've always been dazzled when people feel the need to ask this question. I believe that our "past lives" (is time really linear?) shape us unconsciously, we simply are starting where we left off whether we realize it or not.

However, lots of info/ideas have come up lately that we are living in a much more nefarious reality than we all believed/hoped. The soul trap thread digs pretty deep into that.

It's highly plausible, and now is starting to make more sense than any conclusion I've made before about this existence. Though, it definitely puts a dark twist on my perspective, as it's added a new layer of hopelessness. How do we fight an enemy that seems to have weaved itself into every fiber of our existence?
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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Op, to me I've always been dazzled when people feel the need to ask this question. I believe that our "past lives" (is time really linear?) shape us unconsciously, we simply are starting where we left off whether we realize it or not.

However, lots of info/ideas have come up lately that we are living in a much more nefarious reality than we all believed/hoped. The soul trap thread digs pretty deep into that.

It's highly plausible, and now is starting to make more sense than any conclusion I've made before about this existence. Though, it definitely puts a dark twist on my perspective, as it's added a new layer of hopelessness. How do we fight an enemy that seems to have weaved itself into every fiber of our existence?
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The trap along with hopelessness is an illusion. The adversary is there for a reason, It is there to grow us. If we dont we become entrapped, but by our own choice although rarely does one see that. There is no void.

You do not fight the enemy. You realize that you are sovereign, that your will is paramount and cannot be gainsaid, that you control your own reality-literally and in no uncertain terms. Your thoughts are things-learn to control them.

I learned all this a scant 2 months ago in an encounter that seems unbelievable to me even now. I realize however, that words are just that, and I called the experience in order to learn from it. Probably because I'm an idiot at heart LOL.
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If we are indeed infinite beings that have existed for literally eternity, why have we no memory of it? What reasonable purpose does that serve?
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Op, to me I've always been dazzled when people feel the need to ask this question. I believe that our "past lives" (is time really linear?) shape us unconsciously, we simply are starting where we left off whether we realize it or not.

However, lots of info/ideas have come up lately that we are living in a much more nefarious reality than we all believed/hoped. The soul trap thread digs pretty deep into that.

It's highly plausible, and now is starting to make more sense than any conclusion I've made before about this existence. Though, it definitely puts a dark twist on my perspective, as it's added a new layer of hopelessness. How do we fight an enemy that seems to have weaved itself into every fiber of our existence?
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After a 30 year spiritual journey I have come to the conclusion that memory is the key to our future. Immortality has nothing to do with living forever, it has to do with retaining our memory forever as we go through the incarnations ...

That there is no benefit to us whatsoever of being born without our memories of our past ... that this is a scheme of a parasite and yes, perhaps this is some form of prison or matrix that traps and deceives us. That we, as humans, must reclaim our memories as our first priority. And this was Castaneda's greatest insight.
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After a 30 year spiritual journey I have come to the conclusion that memory is the key to our future. Immortality has nothing to do with living forever, it has to do with retaining our memory forever as we go through the incarnations ...

That there is no benefit to us whatsoever of being born without our memories of our past ... that this is a scheme of a parasite and yes, perhaps this is some form of prison or matrix that traps and deceives us. That we, as humans, must reclaim our memories as our first priority. And this was Castaneda's greatest insight.
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There have been lots of people who retain memories of past lives and even the world in between incarnations. It doesn't necessarily change their circumstances.

I myself remember the last few moments in the other world before I incarnated. I remember being on a high point looking down on the lights of a big city(Los Angeles, where I was born.) I remember absolutley dreading coming here. I clearly saw what a fucked up place this is and that I wasn't up to the task that was set before me. The being next to me kept telling me that it was the only way and I had no other choice.

I don't believe the archons are the ones responsible for our memory loss. I think it might be some sort of protection mechanism, at least in my case, since I'm pretty sure I did horrible things in other lives.

I am grateful that I either was allowed or had enough personal power to remember those last few moments. It has helped me know that we are more than we appear to be and that with enough work we can become whole again.

I can tell you that time runs much slower in that realm.
Also I remember my body was pure energy that was vaguely shaped like an upside down bell, just as Casteneda says.
The being that was next to me was much larger and felt older and wiser than I.

It seems to me that Casteneda was right that shutting off the internal dialog is the only way to become whole again and reclaim the power that is rightfully ours, and I think deep meditation and self observation are the best ways to do that.

Keep at it Op. We need more fully conscious people in this world if we're ever to turn things around.

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