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In all fields of human endeavor, winning by cheating is losing.

In a competition, when someone cheats, he gets disqualified. The disqualification does not make the runner-up the winner. Rather, it reveals that the man who appeared to be the runner-up had in fact been the winner all along.

In the race for the GOP nomination for President, therefore, Ron Paul won.

As the New York Times wrote yesterday,

Delegates from Nevada tried to nominate Mr. Paul from the floor, submitting petitions from their own state as well as Minnesota, Maine, Iowa, Oregon, Alaska and the Virgin Islands. That should have done the trick: Rules require signatures from just five states. But the party changed the rules on the spot. Henceforth, delegates must gather petitions from eight states.

When Mr. Romney and the RNC cheat so blatantly, they make the game no longer about politics: they make themselves ineligible for the vote of anyone who cares about his own morality, his own honesty or his own integrity – regardless of his politics. And from a purely practical standpoint, they invite Americans to ask if they want to live in a nation governed with the same contempt for those who don’t toe the party line as has been displayed both in Tampa and throughout the primary process.

But as a Ron Paul supporter, I can’t remember feeling so invigorated and empowered in my cause.

Not only did my candidate win: the GOP has given the Liberty movement a greatest gift it could have given us. It has induced a righteous indignation will ensure that there will be no lull in the Liberty movement post-convention or post-election. It has educated us; it has brought us together like only a common hurt can, and it has freed us to do whatever needs to be done for the cause we love, wherever we need to do it.


To those in the Liberty movement who in the first flush of anger are saying they will never vote GOP again, I would humbly suggest that there is no better revenge than success, and that success, therefore, is a dish best served cold.

Ron Paul has been fighting for the cause of freedom for 30 years. Even if Romney were to win the election in November – a possibility now massively reduced by the disenfranchisement of a large minority of Republicans who comprise its most energetic activists – eventually he’ll be just another ex-President. But the GOP’s behavior has just about ensured that Liberty will never be just another ex-movement. Thanks to GOP, a hardened, indignant and wiser Liberty movement will be as much “here” in four years or eight years as the Constitution will be.

And each time one of the main parties blatantly chooses power over honesty and fairness, it opens the unconverted to one of the most important messages of the Liberty movement: that the answers to our problems may not be found in the platforms or most of the people of the main parties that created them.

When I was observing the GOP caucuses in Seattle, I was able to ask a number of caucus goers who they voted for. Everyone I asked who was under 40 was there for Ron Paul. Everyone I asked who was over 65 was there for Mitt Romney. The younger adults would explain why they liked their candidate with passion, conviction, excitement and an unusual understanding of issues – in other words, the stuff that victories are made of. The senior citizens – every one of them – gave as justification for their support of Romney, “He’s the man who can beat Obama”. (The logic didn’t work so well for John Kerry, as I recall.)

I wanted to help them see the flaw in their answer by asking why they’d want to replace a large bank-funded, Patriot Act-supporting, NDAA-supporting, interventionist who doesn’t have a plan to reduce government spending in the foreseeable future with a …

You see, of course, why I couldn’t ask the question.

More to the point, the people who “like Romney” are the outgoing seniors. The future of the party will comprise, out of simple biological necessity, those younger, liberty-loving, peace-mongering Constitutionalists, the likes of whom the RNC has worked so hard to put down.

That’s exciting.

But things are even more exciting if I am wrong.

Think for a minute what happens to all these excitable young people if the GOP old-guard stick around for long-enough to succeed in thwarting every effort the Paul supporters make to take over the party. In that case, the GOP will achieve something that no third party has: it will make third parties credible and their support significant. We may even look back at the 28 Aug. as the day when the seed of a brand new party was sown. Stranger things have happened.

Whichever way it goes, the GOP’s failure to integrate its liberty wing will seriously endanger the duopolistic political system on which they have depended for so long because the liberty movement is now simply too large to disappear.

Whether this liberty movement of critical mass changes the mainstream of US politics by controlling the GOP, or by becoming the philosophically coherent minority that swings elections is, in the long-run, a choice for the Republican party to make. However, for this election cycle, the GOP appears to have made its choice.

It doesn’t really matter: a paradigm shift is already under way. As I wrote in "Ron Paul Can Win", the best piece of evidence that this is so is that the means used to by those with an interest in the old, prevailing paradigm to maintain it become more contorted, and increasingly dependent on ignoring large chunks of reality – like the social and cultural phenomenon of hundreds of thousands of the nation’s youth filling stadiuns to hear an old conservative politicians talk about even older philosophers and economists; the brute fact that the number of non-supporters of the main parties is unprecedented, or the simple expectation of fair play in competitive endeavors.

To my liberty and peace-loving friends, I urge that our responsibility in November is to put the mainstream on notice that the Independent, post-partisan middle is now liberty-dominated and large enough to turn elections.

If the mainstream knows this, they will be forced – out of shear self-interest and love of power - to give civil rights, peace and real markets more than lip-service. Remember, in a two-party system, the candidate who wins over the median swing voter wins the election. Controlling the “politics of the middle” therefore offers disproportionate political influence.

To that end, write in Ron Paul if a write-in vote will be counted in your state. If Ron Paul endorses someone, vote for him. Otherwise, vote Gary Johnson (or your favored third party candidate). Just remember that we wield influence by demonstrating to the GOP and DNC that we are the group that swings elections from now on. Therefore, a vote against Obamney is not enough. Even a vote via write-in for Paul is not enough if no one will ever see it. Constitutionalists, libertarians, Blue Republicans, down-the-line pro-peace progressives, protest voters etc. must vote for Paul’s principles and get that vote counted.



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Lol, if anything don't vite at all. If your gunna vote vote Obama.
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Thread: Breaking: Ron Paul Won!

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CORRECT ! Do not settle for the bankster sellouts ROMNEY or OBAMA...


WRITE IN

RONALD ERNEST PAUL for PRESIDENT in NOVEMBER !



44 states count WRITE-IN votes !



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GET Over it~~~~~ ANYBODY BUT OB!!!!
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You should just stop. We all know why mitt was appointed. He is the only one to bring a right turn to the US. Paul is a doctor who should be caring for the ill, not trying to lead the US. Yes, we all like Paul. He is a great person, but not a leader for gov. We should all come together for Mitt and go see Paul as a doctor. We all win. Good gov. And good doctor. Let's all go to the party, that is the right party.
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You should just stop. We all know why mitt was appointed. He is the only one to bring a right turn to the US. Paul is a doctor who should be caring for the ill, not trying to lead the US. Yes, we all like Paul. He is a great person, but not a leader for gov. We should all come together for Mitt and go see Paul as a doctor. We all win. Good gov. And good doctor. Let's all go to the party, that is the right party.
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Message paid for by the GOP.
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You should just stop. We all know why mitt was appointed. He is the only one to bring a right turn to the US. Paul is a doctor who should be caring for the ill, not trying to lead the US. Yes, we all like Paul. He is a great person, but not a leader for gov. We should all come together for Mitt and go see Paul as a doctor. We all win. Good gov. And good doctor. Let's all go to the party, that is the right party.
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Today's Republican motto: "We Can Change"
Sounds alot like: "Change We Can Believe In"

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Sorry Romney fans,

I chose to not partake in your party when I see things like changing the rules on the fly and doing everything to win at any cost.

If 4 more years of Obama is what it takes to teach the Republicans a lesson, then 4 more years it is.
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We will WRITE HIM IN!
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Ron Paul lost many months ago. Get over it.

You Paultards are delusional and deranged. Luckily, most of you aren't old enough to vote anyway.
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I'm 64 and Paul would have been my choice. He is the one man who would have galvanized the independent vote.Romney will be better than obama but not by much.



In all fields of human endeavor, winning by cheating is losing.

In a competition, when someone cheats, he gets disqualified. The disqualification does not make the runner-up the winner. Rather, it reveals that the man who appeared to be the runner-up had in fact been the winner all along.

In the race for the GOP nomination for President, therefore, Ron Paul won.

As the New York Times wrote yesterday,

Delegates from Nevada tried to nominate Mr. Paul from the floor, submitting petitions from their own state as well as Minnesota, Maine, Iowa, Oregon, Alaska and the Virgin Islands. That should have done the trick: Rules require signatures from just five states. But the party changed the rules on the spot. Henceforth, delegates must gather petitions from eight states.

When Mr. Romney and the RNC cheat so blatantly, they make the game no longer about politics: they make themselves ineligible for the vote of anyone who cares about his own morality, his own honesty or his own integrity – regardless of his politics. And from a purely practical standpoint, they invite Americans to ask if they want to live in a nation governed with the same contempt for those who don’t toe the party line as has been displayed both in Tampa and throughout the primary process.

But as a Ron Paul supporter, I can’t remember feeling so invigorated and empowered in my cause.

Not only did my candidate win: the GOP has given the Liberty movement a greatest gift it could have given us. It has induced a righteous indignation will ensure that there will be no lull in the Liberty movement post-convention or post-election. It has educated us; it has brought us together like only a common hurt can, and it has freed us to do whatever needs to be done for the cause we love, wherever we need to do it.


To those in the Liberty movement who in the first flush of anger are saying they will never vote GOP again, I would humbly suggest that there is no better revenge than success, and that success, therefore, is a dish best served cold.

Ron Paul has been fighting for the cause of freedom for 30 years. Even if Romney were to win the election in November – a possibility now massively reduced by the disenfranchisement of a large minority of Republicans who comprise its most energetic activists – eventually he’ll be just another ex-President. But the GOP’s behavior has just about ensured that Liberty will never be just another ex-movement. Thanks to GOP, a hardened, indignant and wiser Liberty movement will be as much “here” in four years or eight years as the Constitution will be.

And each time one of the main parties blatantly chooses power over honesty and fairness, it opens the unconverted to one of the most important messages of the Liberty movement: that the answers to our problems may not be found in the platforms or most of the people of the main parties that created them.

When I was observing the GOP caucuses in Seattle, I was able to ask a number of caucus goers who they voted for. Everyone I asked who was under 40 was there for Ron Paul. Everyone I asked who was over 65 was there for Mitt Romney. The younger adults would explain why they liked their candidate with passion, conviction, excitement and an unusual understanding of issues – in other words, the stuff that victories are made of. The senior citizens – every one of them – gave as justification for their support of Romney, “He’s the man who can beat Obama”. (The logic didn’t work so well for John Kerry, as I recall.)

I wanted to help them see the flaw in their answer by asking why they’d want to replace a large bank-funded, Patriot Act-supporting, NDAA-supporting, interventionist who doesn’t have a plan to reduce government spending in the foreseeable future with a …

You see, of course, why I couldn’t ask the question.

More to the point, the people who “like Romney” are the outgoing seniors. The future of the party will comprise, out of simple biological necessity, those younger, liberty-loving, peace-mongering Constitutionalists, the likes of whom the RNC has worked so hard to put down.

That’s exciting.

But things are even more exciting if I am wrong.

Think for a minute what happens to all these excitable young people if the GOP old-guard stick around for long-enough to succeed in thwarting every effort the Paul supporters make to take over the party. In that case, the GOP will achieve something that no third party has: it will make third parties credible and their support significant. We may even look back at the 28 Aug. as the day when the seed of a brand new party was sown. Stranger things have happened.

Whichever way it goes, the GOP’s failure to integrate its liberty wing will seriously endanger the duopolistic political system on which they have depended for so long because the liberty movement is now simply too large to disappear.

Whether this liberty movement of critical mass changes the mainstream of US politics by controlling the GOP, or by becoming the philosophically coherent minority that swings elections is, in the long-run, a choice for the Republican party to make. However, for this election cycle, the GOP appears to have made its choice.

It doesn’t really matter: a paradigm shift is already under way. As I wrote in "Ron Paul Can Win", the best piece of evidence that this is so is that the means used to by those with an interest in the old, prevailing paradigm to maintain it become more contorted, and increasingly dependent on ignoring large chunks of reality – like the social and cultural phenomenon of hundreds of thousands of the nation’s youth filling stadiuns to hear an old conservative politicians talk about even older philosophers and economists; the brute fact that the number of non-supporters of the main parties is unprecedented, or the simple expectation of fair play in competitive endeavors.

To my liberty and peace-loving friends, I urge that our responsibility in November is to put the mainstream on notice that the Independent, post-partisan middle is now liberty-dominated and large enough to turn elections.

If the mainstream knows this, they will be forced – out of shear self-interest and love of power - to give civil rights, peace and real markets more than lip-service. Remember, in a two-party system, the candidate who wins over the median swing voter wins the election. Controlling the “politics of the middle” therefore offers disproportionate political influence.

To that end, write in Ron Paul if a write-in vote will be counted in your state. If Ron Paul endorses someone, vote for him. Otherwise, vote Gary Johnson (or your favored third party candidate). Just remember that we wield influence by demonstrating to the GOP and DNC that we are the group that swings elections from now on. Therefore, a vote against Obamney is not enough. Even a vote via write-in for Paul is not enough if no one will ever see it. Constitutionalists, libertarians, Blue Republicans, down-the-line pro-peace progressives, protest voters etc. must vote for Paul’s principles and get that vote counted.



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You should just stop. We all know why mitt was appointed. He is the only one to bring a right turn to the US. Paul is a doctor who should be caring for the ill, not trying to lead the US. Yes, we all like Paul. He is a great person, but not a leader for gov. We should all come together for Mitt and go see Paul as a doctor. We all win. Good gov. And good doctor. Let's all go to the party, that is the right party.
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he kind of crackpot statements glp is becoming famous for...

your statement stands out like "i just took a shit, ask me a question"
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Lol, if anything don't vite at all. If your gunna vote vote Obama.
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Someone would have to pick my cold, severed, dead hand off of the floor before I'd vote for that SOB.
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Ron Paul lost many months ago. Get over it.

You Paultards are delusional and deranged. Luckily, most of you aren't old enough to vote anyway.
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Sorry Romney fans,

I chose to not partake in your party when I see things like changing the rules on the fly and doing everything to win at any cost.

If 4 more years of Obama is what it takes to teach the Republicans a lesson, then 4 more years it is.
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Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now.
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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If my vote truly counted I'd consider that strategy.
Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now.
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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If my vote truly counted I'd consider that strategy.
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HAVEN'T voted for years....going to go vote Johnson just to see anyone but Mitt/Obama
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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I will consider Johnson and will be looking into him and will do anything I can to knock these sick lying cheating corporate bought left/right wing assholes out of the water...

I am 100% for Paul, but by GOD I want to see those people go down. After the way they treated a Presidential Candidate, they do not deserve to walk on our soil. Yes I said that and all you mittards can go straight to hell for backing up a liar, a cheater, and a bought out piece of dirt.

So YOU MITARDS get over yourself!!! You just showed where YOU stand. How does it feel that you are selling out your own children's future. IF you can't see what that piece of slime did, what the RNC did, YOU are not worth the soil you walk on. I feel sorry for your children and I can't wait till your children are old enough to see how you sold them out. I hope they laugh in your faces.
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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Yes, Johnson it is!
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In all fields of human endeavor, winning by cheating is losing.

In a competition, when someone cheats, he gets disqualified. The disqualification does not make the runner-up the winner. Rather, it reveals that the man who appeared to be the runner-up had in fact been the winner all along.

In the race for the GOP nomination for President, therefore, Ron Paul won.

As the New York Times wrote yesterday,

Delegates from Nevada tried to nominate Mr. Paul from the floor, submitting petitions from their own state as well as Minnesota, Maine, Iowa, Oregon, Alaska and the Virgin Islands. That should have done the trick: Rules require signatures from just five states. But the party changed the rules on the spot. Henceforth, delegates must gather petitions from eight states.

When Mr. Romney and the RNC cheat so blatantly, they make the game no longer about politics: they make themselves ineligible for the vote of anyone who cares about his own morality, his own honesty or his own integrity – regardless of his politics. And from a purely practical standpoint, they invite Americans to ask if they want to live in a nation governed with the same contempt for those who don’t toe the party line as has been displayed both in Tampa and throughout the primary process.

But as a Ron Paul supporter, I can’t remember feeling so invigorated and empowered in my cause.

Not only did my candidate win: the GOP has given the Liberty movement a greatest gift it could have given us. It has induced a righteous indignation will ensure that there will be no lull in the Liberty movement post-convention or post-election. It has educated us; it has brought us together like only a common hurt can, and it has freed us to do whatever needs to be done for the cause we love, wherever we need to do it.


To those in the Liberty movement who in the first flush of anger are saying they will never vote GOP again, I would humbly suggest that there is no better revenge than success, and that success, therefore, is a dish best served cold.

Ron Paul has been fighting for the cause of freedom for 30 years. Even if Romney were to win the election in November – a possibility now massively reduced by the disenfranchisement of a large minority of Republicans who comprise its most energetic activists – eventually he’ll be just another ex-President. But the GOP’s behavior has just about ensured that Liberty will never be just another ex-movement. Thanks to GOP, a hardened, indignant and wiser Liberty movement will be as much “here” in four years or eight years as the Constitution will be.

And each time one of the main parties blatantly chooses power over honesty and fairness, it opens the unconverted to one of the most important messages of the Liberty movement: that the answers to our problems may not be found in the platforms or most of the people of the main parties that created them.

When I was observing the GOP caucuses in Seattle, I was able to ask a number of caucus goers who they voted for. Everyone I asked who was under 40 was there for Ron Paul. Everyone I asked who was over 65 was there for Mitt Romney. The younger adults would explain why they liked their candidate with passion, conviction, excitement and an unusual understanding of issues – in other words, the stuff that victories are made of. The senior citizens – every one of them – gave as justification for their support of Romney, “He’s the man who can beat Obama”. (The logic didn’t work so well for John Kerry, as I recall.)

I wanted to help them see the flaw in their answer by asking why they’d want to replace a large bank-funded, Patriot Act-supporting, NDAA-supporting, interventionist who doesn’t have a plan to reduce government spending in the foreseeable future with a …

You see, of course, why I couldn’t ask the question.

More to the point, the people who “like Romney” are the outgoing seniors. The future of the party will comprise, out of simple biological necessity, those younger, liberty-loving, peace-mongering Constitutionalists, the likes of whom the RNC has worked so hard to put down.

That’s exciting.

But things are even more exciting if I am wrong.

Think for a minute what happens to all these excitable young people if the GOP old-guard stick around for long-enough to succeed in thwarting every effort the Paul supporters make to take over the party. In that case, the GOP will achieve something that no third party has: it will make third parties credible and their support significant. We may even look back at the 28 Aug. as the day when the seed of a brand new party was sown. Stranger things have happened.

Whichever way it goes, the GOP’s failure to integrate its liberty wing will seriously endanger the duopolistic political system on which they have depended for so long because the liberty movement is now simply too large to disappear.

Whether this liberty movement of critical mass changes the mainstream of US politics by controlling the GOP, or by becoming the philosophically coherent minority that swings elections is, in the long-run, a choice for the Republican party to make. However, for this election cycle, the GOP appears to have made its choice.

It doesn’t really matter: a paradigm shift is already under way. As I wrote in "Ron Paul Can Win", the best piece of evidence that this is so is that the means used to by those with an interest in the old, prevailing paradigm to maintain it become more contorted, and increasingly dependent on ignoring large chunks of reality – like the social and cultural phenomenon of hundreds of thousands of the nation’s youth filling stadiuns to hear an old conservative politicians talk about even older philosophers and economists; the brute fact that the number of non-supporters of the main parties is unprecedented, or the simple expectation of fair play in competitive endeavors.

To my liberty and peace-loving friends, I urge that our responsibility in November is to put the mainstream on notice that the Independent, post-partisan middle is now liberty-dominated and large enough to turn elections.

If the mainstream knows this, they will be forced – out of shear self-interest and love of power - to give civil rights, peace and real markets more than lip-service. Remember, in a two-party system, the candidate who wins over the median swing voter wins the election. Controlling the “politics of the middle” therefore offers disproportionate political influence.

To that end, write in Ron Paul if a write-in vote will be counted in your state. If Ron Paul endorses someone, vote for him. Otherwise, vote Gary Johnson (or your favored third party candidate). Just remember that we wield influence by demonstrating to the GOP and DNC that we are the group that swings elections from now on. Therefore, a vote against Obamney is not enough. Even a vote via write-in for Paul is not enough if no one will ever see it. Constitutionalists, libertarians, Blue Republicans, down-the-line pro-peace progressives, protest voters etc. must vote for Paul’s principles and get that vote counted.



[link to www.dailypaul.com]


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BULLCRAP....

At this point any vote, other than for Romney, is a vote for OBAMA... period.

Beware of anyone telling you different. They are all closet OBAMA SUPPORTERS.
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Ron Paul lost many months ago. Get over it.

You Paultards are delusional and deranged. Luckily, most of you aren't old enough to vote anyway.
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I know some very successful independent people ranging in age from 25 to 83 who are Paul supporters.
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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I will consider Johnson and will be looking into him and will do anything I can to knock these sick lying cheating corporate bought left/right wing assholes out of the water...

I am 100% for Paul, but by GOD I want to see those people go down. After the way they treated a Presidential Candidate, they do not deserve to walk on our soil. Yes I said that and all you mittards can go straight to hell for backing up a liar, a cheater, and a bought out piece of dirt.

So YOU MITARDS get over yourself!!! You just showed where YOU stand. How does it feel that you are selling out your own children's future. IF you can't see what that piece of slime did, what the RNC did, YOU are not worth the soil you walk on. I feel sorry for your children and I can't wait till your children are old enough to see how you sold them out. I hope they laugh in your faces.
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This.

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BULLCRAP....

At this point any vote, other than for Romney, is a vote for OBAMA... period.

Beware of anyone telling you different. They are all closet OBAMA SUPPORTERS.
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BULLSHIT!

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson. A vote for Romney is a vote for Romney. A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama. I'm so sick of this retard logic that a vote for someone who doesn't make you sick at your stomach is a vote for someone else. The fix is in, it's already decided. I'll be damned if I'll make myself complicit in a rigged system by voting for Kang and Kodos. When you Mitt-tards and Obama-tards that voted for him are whining later, I can smile and say "you built that". I won't lay one brick in that corrupt clusterfuck.
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You really shouldn't write RP in. Vote for Johnson!
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If 34% of the voters vote for Johnson, the the corrupted and falling apart left wing and right wing of that same ole bird will not have a clear victor at the end of the election.

If 51% voters voter for Johnson, guess what?

Don't waste your vote by voting for either Obama nore Romney.

Put an end to the fixed two party elections.
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I hate to be tedious, but it's not a matter of percentages, it's electoral votes. Samuel J. Tilden did win the popular vote even though he lost the election in 1876. And if one candidate does not have the required majority of 270 electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes.

Guess who that would be. Romney.

Are we screwed or what?

Need more conservatives in the house and fewer Dems and Repubs.

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Ron Paul was simply a ploy to bring more independent voters to the Republican Party.
At the last minute Ron Paul will urge his supporters to vote the party ticket.
If he wins through write-in votes he will come up with some excuse to not accept the presidency for medical or some other reason so Romney can take the spot.

We have to get rid of the party system and find a better way to represent the people without being subjected to these appointed presidents from one of two parties, that never do anything to better the lives of the average person.

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