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When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?

 
psyoptics

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When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
i do not remember in my 49 years the US military using populated areas...cities, suburbs, and small towns as their own training facilities!
why?
in my lifetime we have been in wars which would have included urban areas.

Black Hawk helicopters’ war games in downtown Minneapolis
[link to fromthetrenchesworldreport.com]
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Low-flying Black Hawk helicopters conducted military training exercises in downtown Minneapolis Monday night, hovering majestically outside of apartment windows of surprised local residents

hovered outside their windows and flew over the city


[link to www.youtube.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]

come on now....3AM Monday morning!


[link to www.youtube.com]

Black Hawk helicopters were first introduced by the military in 1979

they have been used in many battles for many years
so why now must they do this.

they are not having the residents leave...no they are just bringing in the heavy equipment.
low flying helicopters this time...
one would think training black hawk pilots how to fly in urban areas by sending them into a city...then have them fly down low in between the buildings is not very safe....
this is training...what if there is a failure with a craft....where is it going down? who is walking there or sitting in the building?

what are they doing....
training the people what to do when they see these kinds of operations in their area....and at the same time training our military for operations in these areas?


this is not a good sign.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Conditioning the masses....
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Conditioning the masses....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2502917

well if you think they are doing that....
then you must admit it is worse...
they are training to fight the masses!
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Conditioning the masses....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2502917


I agree OP. This would have never happened in the past. And they are not notifying the citizens about these 'trainings' which leads some people to freak out...and rightly so given everything going on. So I think AC has a valid theory.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Conditioning the masses....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2502917

well if you think they are doing that....
then you must admit it is worse...
they are training to fight the masses!
 Quoting: psyoptics


verysad
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Since Obama has brought us to the point that civil unrest is inevitable.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
come on.....
flying black hawks in between the buildings in downtown Minneapolis?

Minneapolis....Minneapolis?

and even doing it at 3:00 in the morning...and a Monday at that!
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Conditioning the masses....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2502917

well if you think they are doing that....
then you must admit it is worse...
they are training to fight the masses!
 Quoting: psyoptics


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Since Obama has brought us to the point that civil unrest is inevitable.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

is it him...or can you put what ever name follows...President "inset name here"
this has to go far beyond the current seated president!
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
So, it is okay on a military base in a populated city? Real life scenarios have been used on base for 50 years, and those are in USA cities.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Since Obama has brought us to the point that civil unrest is inevitable.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

is it him...or can you put what ever name follows...President "inset name here"
this has to go far beyond the current seated president!
 Quoting: psyoptics


I believe people have become very desperate under his presidency, while they were hoping for change. So I have to blame Obama, for he is in charge 100%.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Since Obama has brought us to the point that civil unrest is inevitable.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

is it him...or can you put what ever name follows...President "inset name here"
this has to go far beyond the current seated president!
 Quoting: psyoptics


I believe people have become very desperate under his presidency, while they were hoping for change. So I have to blame Obama, for he is in charge 100%.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

true.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
I posted a thread about black hawks in Boulder 3mins before this one. Not until 2006 did I see any even close to a city, but on that year they were conducting missions within it. That year I saw two of them with full battle-rattle soldiers sitting with their legs out ready to air-assault off. They landed ontop of a building, went in, then came out with a man and a bag over his head. The next day the news says it was a training excercise. People have a hard time believing it and opening their eyes, but this is happening. Like it or not, this is our future.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
This occured after we began training for asymmetric warfare. This is what is required to fight insurgents rather than nations. Urban warfare training.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
So, it is okay on a military base in a populated city? Real life scenarios have been used on base for 50 years, and those are in USA cities.
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please show me where and when our military flew black hawks down the street of a major city?

please can you do the same for driving tanks and other heavy armored vehicle around neighborhoods?

i grew up outside of Chicago...never did this happen back then.
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08/29/2012 02:15 PM

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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
I posted a thread about black hawks in Boulder 3mins before this one. Not until 2006 did I see any even close to a city, but on that year they were conducting missions within it. That year I saw two of them with full battle-rattle soldiers sitting with their legs out ready to air-assault off. They landed ontop of a building, went in, then came out with a man and a bag over his head. The next day the news says it was a training excercise. People have a hard time believing it and opening their eyes, but this is happening. Like it or not, this is our future.
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so in Boulder as well!

it is a growing issue, this!
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
This occured after we began training for asymmetric warfare. This is what is required to fight insurgents rather than nations. Urban warfare training.
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We have mock cities for this training, only reason for real cities being used, is to train for U.S. cities action.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
That year I saw two of them with full battle-rattle soldiers sitting with their legs out ready to air-assault off. They landed ontop of a building, went in, then came out with a man and a bag over his head. The next day the news says it was a training excercise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22459594

WTF....

so we might never know when these become real OP's...
they might be now?

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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
That year I saw two of them with full battle-rattle soldiers sitting with their legs out ready to air-assault off. They landed ontop of a building, went in, then came out with a man and a bag over his head. The next day the news says it was a training excercise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22459594

WTF....

so we might never know when these become real OP's...
they might be now?

 Quoting: psyoptics


Oh most definatly. These are real ops. The crew had SF "written" all over them. They grabbed a real person, bound and gagged. The mayor of Denver wanted to know wth it was about, and he got an appology from the heads, and said they would notify him of any future "training" ops.
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It became popular when the controllers keep making their own new laws that give themselves more and more justification to kill. Some time in the future they will have all the laws necessary when they want to wipe out masses of humans and they will feel justified in doing it.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
That year I saw two of them with full battle-rattle soldiers sitting with their legs out ready to air-assault off. They landed ontop of a building, went in, then came out with a man and a bag over his head. The next day the news says it was a training excercise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22459594

WTF....

so we might never know when these become real OP's...
they might be now?

 Quoting: psyoptics


Correct.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Reports coming out of Boulder today that Chinooks are circling the campus there (Twitter). Saw a couple last night in Ky too, maybe Issac relief related?

As far as urban training, why use Miami and Minneapolis when the Marines have a full-scale urban warfare training city at Twentynine Plams?

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Your right OP, its in preparation for martial law.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
The sheeple will take it without missing a stride when these stop being "training" and become live operations.


Cattle can be spooked by loud machinery but once they become accustomed to it being there they don't even care.
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No, not a good sign at all

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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
the mysterious "helicopters" are not military and are not ours. they are u.f.o. don't believe me? don't care.

the military wishes you thought they were theirs. just like they wish you thought they had special secret technology... you see, area 51 is a psyop story for this reason specifically.

same goes for the fake planes. they are not human beings in those things, that's for damn sure. drone stories are just covering for those things, again, to claim them as military instead of anybody suspecting they are not ours at all.

those trails have been in the sky since the 80s, from the earliest i can remember... but that's another subject.

but, when you see something with "helicopter lights" that sounds like a helicopter at night, don't quickly dismiss it as a helicopter. you are INFERRING based on lights that only outline the object, not illuminate it entirely and the sound can be imitated, but sounds more like a motorcycle puttering over, rather than the chopper blade noise.

search youtube for helicopter spotlight... numerous people have had these things single them out and shine a light on them (including myself and another person) and it was NOT a helicopter. it was a cylinder and the light was warm to the skin. if you want to know the truth, it's accessible to anybody. again, don't give a fuck if you think it's BS. just stating FACTS.
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Since Obama has brought us to the point that civil unrest is inevitable.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

is it him...or can you put what ever name follows...President "inset name here"
this has to go far beyond the current seated president!
 Quoting: psyoptics


This is spot on....there is someone else in charge and they are getting ready to tighten the noose......several "training" exercises in different cities all at once.....then BAM!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL.......
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Since Obama has brought us to the point that civil unrest is inevitable.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

is it him...or can you put what ever name follows...President "inset name here"
this has to go far beyond the current seated president!
 Quoting: psyoptics


This is spot on....there is someone else in charge and they are getting ready to tighten the noose......several "training" exercises in different cities all at once.....then BAM!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL.......
 Quoting: CtYankee

well folks we are seeing these training missions in several cities at the same time...here today!
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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
now what about all those drones......

what about the permission to have them sent up armed with more then a camera!

and how many have been approved? tens...hundreds...or thousands!

oh need us not forget the close to 1 billion rounds of ammunition ordered in the last 6 months.

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Re: When did it become accepted practice for our military to use our populated areas as their private training grounds?
Um, I'm pretty sure it's not your military.

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