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I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...

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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
I know somebody has something to say on this. I don't take your silence as misunderstanding or such.

I know some on here who can expand on the concept with great clarity...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I know somebody has something to say on this. I don't take your silence as misunderstanding or such.

I know some on here who can expand on the concept with great clarity...
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and I am using the I on purpose...
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
seems like everyone is good on this topic. Cool...
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seems like everyone is good on this topic. Cool...
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i learned how to fight real good to protect my ego.i am insecure and inmature.
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
Are you asking a question or giving a sermon?
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
Maybe you're not getting the desired reaction because people take offense to being offered " help " when they're not asking for advice in the first place ?

That could have something to do with it.
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ego is a fart in the wind
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Interesting. Could you go into detail about deprogramming?
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Interesting. Could you go into detail about deprogramming?
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you could read Acegotflows' other threads...
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
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If you really want to explain how to ditch the ego.......why don't you do the right thing and teach anonymously? No following, no EGO to get in the way. Lose the moniker lose the handle, then post as nobody, let the words do the talking. Does that bruise your EGO? It should!
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
The language in Ruiz books is very helpful, imho. I mean, why reinvent the wheel, eh. I was at first surprised to find my "great discoveries" had already been found eons ago and that there really isn't anything new under the sun. This truly must be a place of self discovery and learning. (The universe, not GLP, although...).

In The Four Agreement, for instance, he refers to beliefs as agreements which we can break. At the same time he shows how to remove ego, stalk oneself, close emotional wounds, and get along and relate to others.

[link to www.miguelruiz.com]
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
 Quoting: acegotflows



If you really want to explain how to ditch the ego.......why don't you do the right thing and teach anonymously? No following, no EGO to get in the way. Lose the moniker lose the handle, then post as nobody, let the words do the talking. Does that bruise your EGO? It should!
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The reason I use my name is to follow the posts. It had nothing to do with ego. People really don't take AC posts seriously anyway. I'm trying to help, not just be some random glp poster whose message gets lost....
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Funny the same person keeps negative karming me qurh egotistical. At least I put my name in my karma comments. Why doest that person? Why diss and hide? What purpose does that serve. Tell me why I am "egotistical". Save my soul from hell. Please....
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
The language in Ruiz books is very helpful, imho. I mean, why reinvent the wheel, eh. I was at first surprised to find my "great discoveries" had already been found eons ago and that there really isn't anything new under the sun. This truly must be a place of self discovery and learning. (The universe, not GLP, although...).

In The Four Agreement, for instance, he refers to beliefs as agreements which we can break. At the same time he shows how to remove ego, stalk oneself, close emotional wounds, and get along and relate to others.

[link to www.miguelruiz.com]
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Will check this out. Thanks
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
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I've read the words of the masters. They are clear and concise... These words are meandering and unclear. Please stop. The best I can say is that your grammar and syntax are simply awful.
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I've read the words of the masters. They are clear and concise... These words are meandering and unclear. Please stop. The best I can say is that your grammar and syntax are simply awful.
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Thank you for sharing. I'm not a master of anything. Just somebody trying to understand more daily. Cell phones and auto correct screw up grammar and syntax. Please add something of use rather than say nothing but oh you aren't a master...blah. never said I was.
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
 Quoting: acegotflows



If you really want to explain how to ditch the ego.......why don't you do the right thing and teach anonymously? No following, no EGO to get in the way. Lose the moniker lose the handle, then post as nobody, let the words do the talking. Does that bruise your EGO? It should!
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The reason I use my name is to follow the posts. It had nothing to do with ego. People really don't take AC posts seriously anyway. I'm trying to help, not just be some random glp poster whose message gets lost....
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"To thy own self be true", you know you are full of shit. If you keep it you are a hypocrite. Just say'in.

Following your posts (all about you?) is more important than teaching? You can easily follow without the handle, moniker and other baggage.

Later Professor!
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Funny the same person keeps negative karming me qurh egotistical. At least I put my name in my karma comments. Why doest that person? Why diss and hide? What purpose does that serve. Tell me why I am "egotistical". Save my soul from hell. Please....
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You are running scared these days!
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When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I've read the words of the masters. They are clear and concise... These words are meandering and unclear. Please stop. The best I can say is that your grammar and syntax are simply awful.
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Thank you for sharing. I'm not a master of anything. Just somebody trying to understand more daily. Cell phones and auto correct screw up grammar and syntax. Please add something of use rather than say nothing but oh you aren't a master...blah. never said I was.
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Ego is just an idea but some think of it as truth, so you do not have one but separation and division in the mind is part of the subjective program to delude you beware!!!
Graceless and Skeptical as hell!!!
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" Belief is just a word for something one refuses to study the origins of, or reason out!!!
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When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things. EYE is how you perceive your reality that you have created for yourself. But often we don't really try to interperet images and the energy they share. That is a big part of ego, not being willing to really evaluate what you see while accepting it as what you know.

It is actually saying you are way bigger and important than you are.

I've seen so many responses to my talk of langauge going along the lines of "my words mean what I want them to". Actually no that's not true. Once you say those words to somebody else, you don't know what their filters are. You have no clue what and how somebody thinks until you actually try to understand the context and history of the words you use. But the control system is always trying to keep us current and short in thought.

It is the produt of the illusion, but if you see people are less happy even though they have more to distract and entertain. Why is that?

Well it's simply complex. The simple is most things around us at this point are poisoning us in some form, but the complex answer is everybody intereprets the incoming stimuli with their own experiences. It makes the fix complex.

UNLEARN everything. You cannot move forward if you don't stop and ditch all the BS. It's not because you have good or bad going on, it's because you REALLY need to evaluate and understand what you are being told rather than what you interperet it to be.

I've been spelling out the keys to the illusion lately, but a lot will not get it. A few will get it but not know how to deprogram. If anyone wants to talk about it or learn how, I'm here, and there are a few others on here who are well versed and are more experienced than I could ever be.

At this point in the game, we need to lose our associations and really deal with things for what they are and not for what we accept them to be...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I've read the words of the masters. They are clear and concise... These words are meandering and unclear. Please stop. The best I can say is that your grammar and syntax are simply awful.
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Thank you for sharing. I'm not a master of anything. Just somebody trying to understand more daily. Cell phones and auto correct screw up grammar and syntax. Please add something of use rather than say nothing but oh you aren't a master...blah. never said I was.
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If you can not take the heat grasshopper, stay out of kitchen!
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Oh thank you for your empty words of I don't even know what oh wise one.
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Please see this thread:

Thread: Five YOU's - Please READ.
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Unlearning everything is the first step.
I made the experience that certain substances are a huge help in this effort.

Mushrooms deprogram one quite quick. It's only personal experience, but they gave me a good bullshit filter and anstrong connection to nature.
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When you say the word I you are really saying how you see things.
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This doesn't make any sense.

Who is saying the word I? How does a point of view speak? What is speaking? Who is having a point of view, if I am the point of view?
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Re: I'm trying to explain how to ditch ego, but people call it egotistical. Who really has the ego?
Learn about how a clinical sociopath operates, you might get some insights.

Instead of discussing the ego, which is hard to prove.

Look how a sociopaths brain does not function like most brains do.

They process certain language in different parts of the brain.

There moral center near the orbital cortex does not function or is severely diminished.

They are totally selfish, which is what people discuss when they talk ego's