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Corruption in FDA and Cancer Institutes -- They remove herbal remedies from the market that are proven to WORK! Prostate cancer remedy in this case.

 
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I want you to tell me what is wrong with the following situation shown in
this article. Answer these questions for me when you are done reading:

Exactly why was PC SPES taken off the market?

What health risks did it pose that were worse than chemotherapy or having
cancer for that matter?

Did you notice that they admit that it worked to reduce cancer in at least 1/3
of the patients that tried it?

Did you notice the very fishy excuse, “taken off the market because of
undeclared prescription drugs”?

Here is the article:

Prostate Cancer Herbal Remedy Taken Off Market
From Cathy Wong, N.D.,
Your Guide to Alternative Medicine.

Contaminated with undeclared prescription drugs
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has warned consumers to stop taking
the dietary supplement/herbal product PC SPES and SPES because they contain
undeclared prescription drug ingredients that could cause serious health
effects if not taken under medical supervision. In February 2002, BotanicLab,
the California-based manufacturer of the product, voluntarily recalled PC SPES
and SPES nationwide. Subsequently, on June 1, 2002, BotanicLab officially
closed.

PC SPES is a capsule that is marketed for "prostate health" and SPES is a
capsule marketed as an immune enhancer.

Advice to Consumers

Safety is a concern for users of these products. The FDA and the manufacturer
have both advised consumers to discontinue the use of these products
immediately.

PC-SPES, a herbal preparation consisting of eight herbs, was being explored as
a potential treatment for patients who do not respond to traditional hormone
cancer therapy. Currently, limited treatment options exist for such patients,
who generally have a poor prognosis and median survival of about one year.
Approximately one third of patients who fail to respond to chemotherapy for
prostate cancer subsequently respond to PC-SPES.

The University of California at San Francisco, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer
Center, and Johns Hopkins University were conducting clinical research on the
use of PC-SPES for prostate cancer.

Commercially available since November 1996, PC-SPES is a proprietary
combination of eight herbs: Isatis indigotica, Glycyrrhiza uralensis, Panax
pseudoginseng, Ganoderma lucidum, Scutellaria baicalensis, Dedranthema
morifolium, Rabdosia rubescens, and Seronoa repens.

The herbs in PC-SPES were reported to stimulate the immune system and have anti-
tumor activity. PC-SPES also appeared to have estrogen-like activity in the
body. Estrogen has been used as a conventional treatment for prostate cancer to
kill cancer cells.

In a study conducted by the University of California at San Francisco and
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, PC-SPES therapy reduced prostate
specific antigen (PSA), a marker for prostate cancer, in 50% of patients with
hormone resistant prostate cancer. In addition, levels of an enzyme called
prostate acid phosphatase (PAP), commonly elevated in hormone resistant
prostate cancer, decreased and improvements on bone scans were noted.

My notes:
What in the hell is wrong with the FDA? This product WORKS and was shut down.
WHY?!!!!
And the article heading notes the BS and not the facts!
This is what we are up against, corrupt drugs companies shut down successful
things like this every month!
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If these people are given a year to live anyway, why NOT let them try this herbal remedy that WORKS. If they have some side effects, who gives a shit!! They got rid of the biggie, the cancer!!

What is wrong with these people!!!?
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u know the drill, no link you stink!
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Isatis indigotica, Glycyrrhiza uralensis, Panax
pseudoginseng, Ganoderma lucidum, Scutellaria baicalensis, Dedranthema
morifolium, Rabdosia rubescens, and Seronoa repens.

If you have prostate cancer, you might try to get a hold of these eight herbs and ask an ND how to use them. They work to reduce prostate cancer in 1/3 of the people who try them. This has been proven.
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[link to altmedicine.about.com]

here is the link to the article
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bump
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1rof1

yeah, let's all get pissed off at more bullshit. don't you people ever learn? go hug the wife and kids. life is a gift.
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54276-

How does your comment in anyway relate to the facts that I presented. You are an idiot.
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you can still find the beneficial herbs and food sources, but those who make claims are going to be hit hard

check out Doctor's Trust, good prices and quality products:
[link to www.doctorstrust.com]
New Chapter Prostate 5LX promotes healthy prostate function and normalizes urine flow* New Chapter Prostate 5LX also inhibits 5-lipoxygenase and promotes normal prostate cell growth* This formula promotes healthy sexual functioning and performance*. Prostate 5LX also contains organic herbal anti-aging constituents that inactivate free radicals*.

New Chapter has extensively researched the herbal pharmacopoeia and international medical databases and discovered that the following time-tested herbs, properly extracted and blended in the correct proportions, safely inhibit 5-LO and promote prostate health:
SAW PALMETTO Most researched, effective herb for prostate health in its purest, solvent-free supercritical extract form.
GREEN TEA Offers 51 anti-inflammatory phytonutrients, with critical anti-aging and prostate-specific health benefits.
NETTLES (Urtica dioica) Two extracts provide fullest spectrum of anti-inflammatory prostate-specific phytonutrients, with demonstrated clinical benefit in conjunction with saw palmetto.
GINGER According to USDA and major university phytochemical databases, this is nature's richest herbal source of 5-LO inhibitors (24 phytonutrient inhibitors).
SELENIUM Probiotic Nutrients trace nutrient critical to tissue detoxification and long term prostate health.
ROSEMARY Contains numerous anti-aging constituents and significant 5-LO inhibitors.
Plus pumpkin seed oil and extra virgin olive oil, which have numerous prostate health benefits and multiple anti-inflammatory 5-LO inhibitors.
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[link to www.doctorstrust.com]

a whole page full of immunity building herbs and vitamin supplements
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you can take any herb you want, just do your own research

buy herbs in bulk cheap here:

[link to www.herbalcom.com]
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Why does this surprise you?

We will never see a cure for

1) Cancer
2) AIDS
3) Diabetes

Why you ask? It is because there is far too much money to be made by the medical industry in 'treating' these diseases.

While there is still profit to be made, it would be too detrimental to shareholder value to cure these things.
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nothing can keep you from benefiting your own health
if you wait for a "doctor" to help you that's slow suicide
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People need to understand that evil aliens are hindering breakthroughs in medicine, alternative energies, peace negotiations, monetary reforms, etc., so when they arrive as our saviors bringing cures and solutions, the people will bow down to their greatness. Similar to how evil aliens with their flying machines, fooled our ancestors into thinking they were Gods.
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faggit blair dubya bushfing damned baby yawn bump
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Its not little green men, its little green pieces of paper.
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What does the NCI have to say about all of this?
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I just found a very similar product to PC-SPES and ordered it. We will do a run-around of this FDA bullshit!
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Several positive articles about New Chapter's Zyflamend product and Prostate Cancer.

[link to www.new-chapter.com]


Because systemic inflammation can feed pre-cancerous cells as well as sheild them from apoptosis, a combination of traditionally used herbs/spices for anti-inflammation are incorporated.
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PC-SPES, a herbal preparation consisting of eight herbs, was being explored as
a potential treatment for patients who do not respond to traditional hormone
cancer therapy. Currently, limited treatment options exist for such patients,
who generally have a poor prognosis and median survival of about one year.
Approximately one third of patients who fail to respond to chemotherapy for
prostate cancer subsequently respond to PC-SPES.

The University of California at San Francisco, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer
Center, and Johns Hopkins University were conducting clinical research on the
use of PC-SPES for prostate cancer.

Commercially available since November 1996, PC-SPES is a proprietary
combination of eight herbs: Isatis indigotica, Glycyrrhiza uralensis, Panax
pseudoginseng, Ganoderma lucidum, Scutellaria baicalensis, Dedranthema
morifolium, Rabdosia rubescens, and Seronoa repens.

The herbs in PC-SPES were reported to stimulate the immune system and have anti-
tumor activity. PC-SPES also appeared to have estrogen-like activity in the
body. Estrogen has been used as a conventional treatment for prostate cancer to
kill cancer cells.

In a study conducted by the University of California at San Francisco and
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, PC-SPES therapy reduced prostate
specific antigen (PSA), a marker for prostate cancer, in 50% of patients with
hormone resistant prostate cancer. In addition, levels of an enzyme called
prostate acid phosphatase (PAP), commonly elevated in hormone resistant
prostate cancer, decreased and improvements on bone scans were noted.

(ON A SIDE NOTE- MY BROTHER'S CANCER DR. AT YALE, A STAR IN HIS FIELD, JUST DIED OF CANCER THIS WEEK AT AGE 47)
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they can't stop natural foods and herbs from being sold
so, you just have to come up with your own formulas

you can create herbal tinctures by soaking dry herbs in vodka for a few weeks

do some research on Swedish bitters, they are a great health remedy and disease preventative
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The Illuminati has spent great effort time and money to cause most human defects they are not about to let us start curing them.

Read this if you have not read it before.

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.

Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves.

This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy.

Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds.

We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self.

We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say.

If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within.

We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs.

Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other´s hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers.

They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.

This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth.

They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.

This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them.

This reality will be their prison.

They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen.

Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist.

It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.
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bump for truth
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this is the real reason marijuana is illegal.

marijuana has proven potential to cure cancer and other autoimmune disorders.

thereby causing huge losses for the pharaceutical companies

chemicals are not good for the body.

marijuana is an herb, and ingested rather than smoked, it has tremendous curative powers.
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So hash cakes rather than bongs evey day will keep the doctor away.
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[link to 800herbdoc.com]
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Cancer is the biggest moneymaker for western medicine.

Do not expect cures anytime soon.

BTW, my father has prostate cancer and has recently seen 2-3 different products pulled off the market because they worked too well....including PC SPES.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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dynamite doomsol damned
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some cases of "cancer" are really parasite infestations
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744 can you tell me where you found that? As awful as it was I'd like to read more...
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what 744 posted is available on www.thewatcherfiles.com website.

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