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How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?

 
anabel

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08/30/2012 11:26 PM

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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
maybe venus is shiva's death star he is going to turn around to laser beam all the reptoids into submission. banana2
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08/30/2012 11:53 PM
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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
It doesn't try to account for an individual's eyesight. How could it account for a blind man's inability to see?

That is the whole point of instrumentation -
With instrumentation it is possible for a blind man to measure the visual magnitude of venus.

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See that word BELIEVE in the poll question? The word believe and remove the observer's subjective biases and frailties to measure objective reality do not work together.The whole post as worded is an exercise in futility for all sides.
It's like 2 people pushing on opposite sides of an immoveable object.
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Yes, I see the word "believe". It doesn't change the answer to your question about Astro's intended use of instrumentation to measure the magnitude of venus.

His poll question is worded appropriately. No one doubts that people "believe" they are seeing venus "brighter" than they ever have. In some instances it may actually be subjectively true due to medical changes.

Astro's results will challenge the perceptions of some and hopefully be a cause for reflection. It is going to be a demonstration of one of the first principles of the scientific method - Do not fool yourself (or lie to yourself), and you are the easiest one for you to fool.

So, you'll get no argument from me that he's asking people what they "believe". I doubt anyone is going to argue that they actually "believe" that venus is brighter/dimmer than it has ever been. You will get an argument if you remove the subjective premise of the statement and insist that venus is, in "fact", brighter/dimmer than it should be.


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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
It doesn't try to account for an individual's eyesight. How could it account for a blind man's inability to see?

That is the whole point of instrumentation -
With instrumentation it is possible for a blind man to measure the visual magnitude of venus.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420 19327440


See that word BELIEVE in the poll question? The word believe and remove the observer's subjective biases and frailties to measure objective reality do not work together.The whole post as worded is an exercise in futility for all sides.
It's like 2 people pushing on opposite sides of an immoveable object.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


Yes, I see the word "believe". It doesn't change the answer to your question about Astro's intended use of instrumentation to measure the magnitude of venus.

His poll question is worded appropriately. No one doubts that people "believe" they are seeing venus "brighter" than they ever have. In some instances it may actually be subjectively true due to medical changes.

Astro's results will challenge the perceptions of some and hopefully be a cause for reflection. It is going to be a demonstration of one of the first principles of the scientific method - Do not fool yourself (or lie to yourself), and you are the easiest one for you to fool.

So, you'll get no argument from me that he's asking people what they "believe". I doubt anyone is going to argue that they actually "believe" that venus is brighter/dimmer than it has ever been. You will get an argument if you remove the subjective premise of the statement and insist that venus is, in "fact", brighter/dimmer than it should be.


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So instead of telling people that they can't be seeing a brighter Venus,tell them why they are.Too many people are seeing a brighter hotter sun,brighter stars,and stars they never saw before.Why? It's really a simple answer in my area but Im not asking myself,I'm asking You.
I may just kill You for fun.
Or it may be just business.
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08/31/2012 08:48 AM
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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
I voted NO :)
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09/03/2012 04:36 AM

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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
This brings me back memories from the Venus is not Venus tards again. And they seem to be in this thread. 1rof1
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09/08/2012 08:35 AM
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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
I found an old video you made

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09/15/2012 07:36 PM
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Re: How many of you think that Venus is brighter than normal?
What was the verdict on this Astro?

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