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Multiple Smart Meter Updates
By Josh del Sol
8-29-12

Dear Eva,

I first want to thank all for your patience and continued support as we move toward completing our film, Take Back Your Power.

Let me admit that I had under-estimated the time, resources and money that would be required to do a proper job of this very complex story on smart meters, combining the fine-point details and facts with some of the "story behind the story".

The breadth of technical and personal challenges I've experienced has been considerable indeed, though this can be expected with the nature of the project. I sincerely do appreciate all of the support and positive energy coming our way.

We're gearing up for an announcement forthcoming in the next few days... stay tuned! In the meantime, below are some key updates.

CONTINUE: [link to rense.com]
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08/30/2012 06:26 PM
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You're afraid of a smart meter but probably don't give a second thought to your WiFi connection, microwave oven, or the cellphone that you hold right up next to your brain.
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08/30/2012 06:30 PM
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I'm about to turn my power off forever. I have a smart meter but they are no smart yet. They were installed but not plugged into the grid yet. They need 50% of them installed before they go smart. Also they use a router on the phone lines to read them. Routers can get damaged really easy. They are going to have alot of issue's with the routers coming up from all sorts of damage as they are exposed to the elements. Trees, branches, wind, water. I always loose my power in the winter due to storms. So I'm taking measures to live off the grid once and for all. Almost ready.
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Are the wireless alarm systems the same thing?
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Where I am in Ontario, Canada, we didn't have a choice at all. I came home from to find two guys removing the old one and placing the smart reader.

I can honestly say, whether it is a coincedance or not, I get ringing in my ears now as well as headaches. I never had either issue before. I worry about what it will do to my children. I was told by the power company that they are staying.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


they haven't reached our area yet. Maybe next year. According to the local monopoly one can choose to not have one. It costs more to decline they say.


Maybe this will encourage more people to go off the grid.
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08/30/2012 06:36 PM

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When the electricity went out for a couple hours 2 days ago I revisited the idea of a back up generator. Google was not my friend on this, I can't figure it out, I want the kind that you just push a button and it starts.
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08/30/2012 06:37 PM
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You're afraid of a smart meter but probably don't give a second thought to your WiFi connection, microwave oven, or the cellphone that you hold right up next to your brain.
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I don't have wifi. Moved the microwave out of the house. getting off the grid.
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Are the wireless alarm systems the same thing?
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If it's wireless it's putting out radio waves on some frequency.



Wi-Fi Radar Can See Humans Through Walls
Scientists in England can now see through walls­—kind of. Researchers have created a luggage-sized device that can detect human activity behind a one-foot thick brick wall based on Wi-Fi signal frequencies that ricochet as people move around.

According to Popular Science, the "passive radar system" works much the same as regular radar does and is able to accurately detect the speed, location and direction of a person as they move about. However, if you stay still, you'll stay invisible, because the system works by measuring Wi-Fi strength and frequency changes.

While the device has the potential for peaceful, civilian applications such as monitoring children or home protection, CNET reports the military has already taken an interest in the technology as a potential tool in urban warfare.

[link to www.securitynewsdaily.com]
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08/30/2012 06:42 PM
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Question, my meter isnt a "smartmeter" i dont think. It send the signal threw the power lines or some shit, or so they say. But yet i have at least half of the symptoms caused by these smartmeters. So, does anyone know what kind i may have?
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You're afraid of a smart meter but probably don't give a second thought to your WiFi connection, microwave oven, or the cellphone that you hold right up next to your brain.
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I don't have wifi. Moved the microwave out of the house. getting off the grid.
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I disabled my WiFi signal at the router in favor of an Ethernet network and haven't had a microwave in years. I've never had a cellphone or a credit card in my life, or a flu shot either for that matter.

My electric meter is an analog. I live in a large apartment building and each apartment has their own meter. Going off the electric grid is not an option for me, but if they do install one I'll wrap it in foil. I know what day they check the meter and will just unwrap it before they show up.
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08/30/2012 06:46 PM
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When the electricity went out for a couple hours 2 days ago I revisited the idea of a back up generator. Google was not my friend on this, I can't figure it out, I want the kind that you just push a button and it starts.
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Ha ha ha . Not that simple. better educate yourself really fast before you buy some peice of shit. Get an INVERTER Generator. There is a huge difference. Inverters you can run your electronics with. The others you can until they are damage by the generator. They surge. The Inverter types are twice the price. You need one big enough to run a fridge and a few small appliances at the same time otherwise what is the point. For women on there own you better dummy up and learn about them. Electric start ones are very expensive too. Pull start aren't that bad. Will always start as electric starters can break and get fried by surges and solar flares. then what good is an electric start going to do you. Generators need to be serviced all the time. You must learn to do this yourself. Some people think Premium gas is good for them but its not in alot of models. Too high octane runs too hot and will fry them. So if your storing fuel and putting booster in the fuel to extend the life of the fuel you will burn up your generator. I'm a woman and have a generator myself and take care of it myself and you can too. Just don't be helpless about it and learn it.
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08/30/2012 06:47 PM
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Learn how to communicate, OP. I can barely understand what you're saying in your OP. Are you speaking in some kind of Facebook/Apple/Texting language? Because you come off as pretty dumb.
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08/30/2012 06:50 PM
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Smart meters rock, I even requested mine be put in. Now I get live power reading of my usage and ability to save energy. My meter is 50ft from any living areas so don't worry my hair is not falling out. And might I ask how about some technical info on how these meters are spying on me? That's what I thought, you got nothing. What, they'll tap into my internet router or wireless network and capture my data? The US Gov does this already via the main data centers throughout the country, they don't need to spy on us via smart meters, there are far more effective ways and they already are using them. This is the world you guys voted in after 9-11 so deal with it.
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08/30/2012 06:51 PM
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Smart meters rock, I even requested mine be put in. Now I get live power reading of my usage and ability to save energy. My meter is 50ft from any living areas so don't worry my hair is not falling out. And might I ask how about some technical info on how these meters are spying on me? That's what I thought, you got nothing. What, they'll tap into my internet router or wireless network and capture my data? The US Gov does this already via the main data centers throughout the country, they don't need to spy on us via smart meters, there are far more effective ways and they already are using them. This is the world you guys voted in after 9-11 so deal with it.
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You are a dead man then moran. See my post above!
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08/30/2012 06:54 PM
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What's going on is you are sheep asking questions of the shearer it's over America died in 1963. We are all fucked. Poisoned to death,, go pray at a 501c3 church with an american flag on the alter. Fuck it iim sovereign under common law,, fuckin spoiling for a fight... Dont show up dressed in your tactical gear at my home motherfuckers I will send you back... Unpeace. God bless our veterans
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When the electricity went out for a couple hours 2 days ago I revisited the idea of a back up generator. Google was not my friend on this, I can't figure it out, I want the kind that you just push a button and it starts.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Ha ha ha . Not that simple. better educate yourself really fast before you buy some peice of shit. Get an INVERTER Generator. There is a huge difference. Inverters you can run your electronics with. The others you can until they are damage by the generator. They surge. The Inverter types are twice the price. You need one big enough to run a fridge and a few small appliances at the same time otherwise what is the point. For women on there own you better dummy up and learn about them. Electric start ones are very expensive too. Pull start aren't that bad. Will always start as electric starters can break and get fried by surges and solar flares. then what good is an electric start going to do you. Generators need to be serviced all the time. You must learn to do this yourself. Some people think Premium gas is good for them but its not in alot of models. Too high octane runs too hot and will fry them. So if your storing fuel and putting booster in the fuel to extend the life of the fuel you will burn up your generator. I'm a woman and have a generator myself and take care of it myself and you can too. Just don't be helpless about it and learn it.
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Thanks, Inverter is a no, that is what I got. I am going to ask the air conditioning guy when he shows up, I like the company but maybe he won't know.
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Learn how to communicate, OP. I can barely understand what you're saying in your OP. Are you speaking in some kind of Facebook/Apple/Texting language? Because you come off as pretty dumb.
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Oh, sorry I thought this was a role playing game and I like to play dumbshit.
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Learn how to communicate, OP. I can barely understand what you're saying in your OP. Are you speaking in some kind of Facebook/Apple/Texting language? Because you come off as pretty dumb.
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Oh, sorry I thought this was a role playing game and I like to play dumbshit.
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That's much better, thanks!
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08/30/2012 07:11 PM

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It was sheer stupidity I guess that made me tell the meter guy that I didn't want a smart meter. And then he didn't know the rules either and he acted grumpy and took it off in a way that left me unplugged. You can't beat dumb luck. On top of that with the hurricane there are clouds in the area so my house is cool enough with fans. I might be mad if it was hot outside and my air conditioner was disconnected by the power company.
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Does it look new? That's a tell tale sign. Now the electric company is bombarding us with some sort of be a part of helping them BS in lowering our bills by opting to have our usage completely analysed and enjoy brown outs to lower our bills. They won't leave us alone. Our smart meter will know what we run, when we run it. It will know when we are home and do laundry, get on the internet, run a fan, etc. EMF feels like having baby oil on your skin at all times and having bugs crawling on it, besides the other symptoms.
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OMG, I didn't even realize they changed mine! I had gone out of town for an extended time, and when I came home I wondered why the hell rain was seeping down into the basement breaker box all of a sudden. It created a major outage, burning up my main and all the rest of my circuit breakers as well.

You'd think they'd have enough sense to seal it from the rain so it wouldn't burn down the house!

Those main breakers are expensive, and for my type, hard as hell to find.

Everyone make sure they at least seal the main hot wire coming in from the outside, or you could lose your home and much worse. I was just fortunate, I guess.

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You can research it on Google, youtube, etc.......but there are shields that you can purchase to install on the inside of your home near the meter......to block the microwaves from entering most of your home.......as a last resort.
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Does it look new? That's a tell tale sign. Now the electric company is bombarding us with some sort of be a part of helping them BS in lowering our bills by opting to have our usage completely analysed and enjoy brown outs to lower our bills. They won't leave us alone. Our smart meter will know what we run, when we run it. It will know when we are home and do laundry, get on the internet, run a fan, etc. EMF feels like having baby oil on your skin at all times and having bugs crawling on it, besides the other symptoms.
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OMG, I didn't even realize they changed mine! I had gone out of town for an extended time, and when I came home I wondered why the hell rain was seeping down into the basement breaker box all of a sudden. It created a major outage, burning up my main and all the rest of my circuit breakers as well.

You'd think they'd have enough sense to seal it from the rain so it wouldn't burn down the house!

Those main breakers are expensive, and for my type, hard as hell to find.

Everyone make sure they at least seal the main hot wire coming in from the outside, or you could lose your home and much worse. I was just fortunate, I guess.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520917


I read that 16 meters in Chicago had small fires. That sucks, I am glad your ok.
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08/30/2012 07:18 PM
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These things are dangerous from a privacy and health pov. You all need to take a half hour and watch this.

They will use the data against you. Think of it as a black box in a car. It monitors everything that you do.

From a health perspective it is akin to having a mini cell phone tower attached to your house.

Anyone accepting these will enslave themselves within their own home.
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You can research it on Google, youtube, etc.......but there are shields that you can purchase to install on the inside of your home near the meter......to block the microwaves from entering most of your home.......as a last resort.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22837045


You need to quit believing the corporate propaganda. The shields don't work. Watch the video I posted and learn...if you want to live and have privacy.
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08/30/2012 07:22 PM
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Question, my meter isnt a "smartmeter" i dont think. It send the signal threw the power lines or some shit, or so they say. But yet i have at least half of the symptoms caused by these smartmeters. So, does anyone know what kind i may have?
 Quoting: Question 22395366


It communicates with your neighbors meter and theirs with yours and so on and so forth. It is a control grid of data, that is not secure.
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I don't see that article right now but I read it today, it looks like the power company is trying to bury it, saying there were only 3 fires in Chicago.
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You can research it on Google, youtube, etc.......but there are shields that you can purchase to install on the inside of your home near the meter......to block the microwaves from entering most of your home.......as a last resort.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22837045


You need to quit believing the corporate propaganda. The shields don't work. Watch the video I posted and learn...if you want to live and have privacy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22688746


stopsmartmeters.org.........does not really strike me as an elite corporate organization.


[link to www.lessemf.com]
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Yup, I just opted out of the Smart meter program.

I'm in C.A.

Let me just say...

I mean, wow...

As soon as the utility guy removed it, it was like night and day in my home.

IMMEDIATELY the difference was noticeable.

I felt like a sickening weight was lifted off my back.

Me and the house cat were sitting across from each other, giving each other this look like "whoa, you feel that?"

Shoot, even the cat had a different look in his eyes!!

Oh, and my A.M. radio band works now.


From one person to another: REMOVE THESE EVIL THINGS FROM YOUR HOUSE ASAP!

If you care for your health and well-being.
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I'm taking care of my elderly mom for awhile and a smart meter was installed directly on the other side of the wall from the head of my bed.

Headaches, insomnia, nightmares, skin rashes, dizziness, ringing in ears, cramps, chest pains, loss of memory, pain in the eyes, racing heart, difficulty swallowing, burning sensations on the head and chest, irregular heart beats, sinus pain, disorientation, mental confusion, difficulty concentrating, exhaustion, stomach issues, ear aches, miscarriages, irritability, fatigue, joint pain, back pains, electric like shocks, nervousness, stomach rolling, palpitations, eczema, urinary bladder reflex, watery eyes, agitation, anxiety, vomiting, intense thirst, teeth pressure & buzzing, menstrual irregularity, weak, vertigo, pulsations in the ears, emotional distress, high blood pressure, feeling like your going to have a heart attack, tingling sensation, exhausted, flu like symptoms, loss of appetite, loss of weight, intermittent confusion, cardiovascular effects, tightness in chest, heaviness, trembling. hot flashes, impaired cognitive functioning, hyper-arousal.

These are all the symptoms I NEVER had before, except tinnitus, but nowhere near as bad as the last few months. Reading is a passion of mine and I can't lay in bed and read anymore without going over the same paragraph to the point I give up. I can't even stay concentrated on a TV show (which isn't such a bad thing, I guess).

My head is probably about 3 feet from the meter on the other side of the wall when I sleep. And this is one of those "planned" communities where you get a fine for so little as having a tomato plant in a bucket in your backyard. So there's NO fighting about anything without "the association" coming down on your ass. The second she gets better, or *whatever*, I'm gone from this desert nightmare. (Maricopa county, AZ.) NOT a healthy place to live if you're not used to it.

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