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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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What are you guys talking about? Can you give us anything more that that
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What we know is, Turkey is extremely close to war with Syria and dragging in NATO too.

Russia has planes flown into Syria either for troops or evacuating its people, either way bad.

Iran's economy is crumbling and protests a starting. A relief valve is needed quick and war may be the way to do it.

Syria and the Hezbollah are facing serious covert attacks on various parts of their armies and offensive weapons. They must decide to use the, or lose them soon.

Israel has troops ready for anything right now in the north.

If this was a good day in the Middleeast by ones definition, I would hate to see a bad day.
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Thanks mm.

how many cargo planes came in?
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What are you guys talking about? Can you give us anything more that that
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What we know is, Turkey is extremely close to war with Syria and dragging in NATO too.

Russia has planes flown into Syria either for troops or evacuating its people, either way bad.

Iran's economy is crumbling and protests a starting. A relief valve is needed quick and war may be the way to do it.

Syria and the Hezbollah are facing serious covert attacks on various parts of their armies and offensive weapons. They must decide to use the, or lose them soon.

Israel has troops ready for anything right now in the north.

If this was a good day in the Middleeast by ones definition, I would hate to see a bad day.
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Thanks mm.

how many cargo planes came in?
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5
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What are you guys talking about? Can you give us anything more that that
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What we know is, Turkey is extremely close to war with Syria and dragging in NATO too.

Russia has planes flown into Syria either for troops or evacuating its people, either way bad.

Iran's economy is crumbling and protests a starting. A relief valve is needed quick and war may be the way to do it.

Syria and the Hezbollah are facing serious covert attacks on various parts of their armies and offensive weapons. They must decide to use the, or lose them soon.

Israel has troops ready for anything right now in the north.

If this was a good day in the Middleeast by ones definition, I would hate to see a bad day.
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Thanks mm.

how many cargo planes came in?
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5
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bump
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What are you guys talking about? Can you give us anything more that that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7879907


What we know is, Turkey is extremely close to war with Syria and dragging in NATO too.

Russia has planes flown into Syria either for troops or evacuating its people, either way bad.

Iran's economy is crumbling and protests a starting. A relief valve is needed quick and war may be the way to do it.

Syria and the Hezbollah are facing serious covert attacks on various parts of their armies and offensive weapons. They must decide to use the, or lose them soon.

Israel has troops ready for anything right now in the north.

If this was a good day in the Middleeast by ones definition, I would hate to see a bad day.
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Thanks mm.

how many cargo planes came in?
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5

and boom goes the dynamite hey welcome back gerry. 5 planes Could be special forces but doubtful most likely security teams and they're getting people documents and resources outa there. Russia wouldn't fight in SyriaThey would wait for troops to be pulled inAnd then surround them
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Thread: IDF Rabbi signals Israeli Attack

Massive tweets signaling Israel to take up arms and attack.

Most likely Syria to throw Iran off balance and force a front that will drain Iran of military resources and manpower.

Once softened up enough, Israel will most likely make a direct assault on Iran.

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Turkey authorizes military operations in Syria

Published: 10.04.12, 14:16 / Israel News


State media says Turkey's Parliament has approved a bill authorizing the military to conduct cross-border operations in Syria after a deadly shelling from the Syrian territory killed five civilians.


The Anadolu Agency says legislators on Thursday voted in favor of the bill that gives the government authority for one year to send troops or warplanes to strike Syrian targets whenever it deems it necessary. (AP)

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Still there is much talk that NATO and America will not support the use
Of NATO forces. turkey has been quite apprehensive of actually using its own forces to do much of anything besides fight Kurdish rebels. Whether Turkey does more is still something to be seen, but things still are not as hot as they could be.

Israeli border, there is much going on too, but so far nothing is being caught by the news.
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Just my thoughts...

What I think is happening is the U.S. administartion sees that Iran's economy is tanking and hoping that people will see what type of person Ahmadinejad and will hopefully vote a different political personality into office. The United States does not want to go to war, but the only way to stop it is to have a regime change; one who will work with the West. With that being said, I cannot see anybody from Iran being put into office that the west could trust... just look at Egypt.

Anyway, while it's been rather quiet, we are still hearing about how terrible Ahmadinejad is and what happend in Lybia. These little stories are to keep the publics focus off of what is soon to be a rather large operation in Northern Africa. I give it about one month tops before we start seeing more stories coming from Sudan, Somalia, the Congo, and the rest of the counties in the northern part of Africa. The U.S. is already there and they are quietly building and filling up bases.

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I think ahmadinejad was reelected either this or last year, but you may be right
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No there will be elections again bc dinnerjacket is stepping down next year. that is why it was his last UN visit last week. real change, forgive that aweful term, would not happen unless the mullahs are removed from power. otherwise its the same story for last almost 40 years, only with a new face.

unfortunately most outside of Asia minor don't understand this as they hear the term president and think automatically he is the guy calling the shots. he's not. if amadinnerjacket wants to eat rice pilaf foe dinner the mullahs get asked first.

I've majored in near east studies, I'm fluent in Persian and Arabic and know the cultural and historical background. not only is this a showdown of military proportions but its also an ideological showdown akin to ancient history when the Greeks were forced to deal with a growing Persian threat.

this is a continuation of an ideological east v west battle that has raged since the dawn of civilization . its gone hot at times and been dormantly cold at other times but right now its white hot and for the first time in over 1000 years the western world looks weak politically to the eastern agitators and they are smartly acting upon our weakness.
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Yes, it is all on the Mullahs, but I do not think the blame is going to be put on them, especially when the economy is getting very bad. Funny how this theocracy works.. something bad happens to the country, it's the "presidents" fault.. Something good happens, it's because of the mullah. Dinnerjacket is nothing more than a scapegoat when trouble happens.
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Repost from 9/2:

Israel could go it alone scenerio:

Just some thoughts not entirely thought out but would love some input. I'll keep it short.

1) Russia gets Georgia.

2) S Korea takes out pesky N Korea with our help. China wouldnt mind, I think. Good trade prospects. China may insist on Taiwon, though. (sticky wickit there)

3) USA in Afgh along with India keeps Paki in check. Drones are already in Paki.

4) USA in Hormuz region keeps straits open, could wipe out Iran navy if attacked, protects Saudi, and helps keep Egypt in check. Everyone would support this defensive posture.

5) USA in Med helps with Egypt and Leb.

6) Turkey vs. Syria????


Now Israel could go 1 on 1 with Iran (still a tough nut) and if Iran steps out of that direct conflict we have the right to protect. Also, anyone who would help Iran is held at bay. USA is not defending Israel, only the WORLDS oil.

I think Russia and China would go for this. It just came to me last night. I would love some feedback. You all have studied this and I'm sure you can tear many holes in it. Please do. I won't be offended.

Last Edited by AkivaJeff on 09/02/2012 10:01 AM
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Still there is much talk that NATO and America will not support the use Of NATO forces.
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What does the US want the NATO forces for?
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Still there is much talk that NATO and America will not support the use Of NATO forces.
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What does the US want the NATO forces for?
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To stay out of it all. Obahmah has never liked Euorpean nations determining the politics of the World. He blames the western forces for manipulating and taking advantage of the various peoples of the World and he still holds a grudge. That is why he wishes to disarm America fo nuclear weapons and limit our sphere of influence. He too likewise wishes to see the same from NATO.
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Why a draft? we don't need more boots on the ground to do the job..
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Why a draft? we don't need more boots on the ground to do the job..
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Repost from 9/2:

Israel could go it alone scenerio:

Just some thoughts not entirely thought out but would love some input. I'll keep it short.

1) Russia gets Georgia.

2) S Korea takes out pesky N Korea with our help. China wouldnt mind, I think. Good trade prospects. China may insist on Taiwon, though. (sticky wickit there)

3) USA in Afgh along with India keeps Paki in check. Drones are already in Paki.

4) USA in Hormuz region keeps straits open, could wipe out Iran navy if attacked, protects Saudi, and helps keep Egypt in check. Everyone would support this defensive posture.

5) USA in Med helps with Egypt and Leb.

6) Turkey vs. Syria????


Now Israel could go 1 on 1 with Iran (still a tough nut) and if Iran steps out of that direct conflict we have the right to protect. Also, anyone who would help Iran is held at bay. USA is not defending Israel, only the WORLDS oil.

I think Russia and China would go for this. It just came to me last night. I would love some feedback. You all have studied this and I'm sure you can tear many holes in it. Please do. I won't be offended.

Last Edited by AkivaJeff on 09/02/2012 10:01 AM
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Who takes care of hezbollah? Israel cant i think. since all resources will have to be directed towards iran. you know the key target is natanz and thats gonna take a while since they have to hit it multiple times.
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Repost from 9/2:

Israel could go it alone scenerio:

Just some thoughts not entirely thought out but would love some input. I'll keep it short.

1) Russia gets Georgia.

2) S Korea takes out pesky N Korea with our help. China wouldnt mind, I think. Good trade prospects. China may insist on Taiwon, though. (sticky wickit there)

3) USA in Afgh along with India keeps Paki in check. Drones are already in Paki.

4) USA in Hormuz region keeps straits open, could wipe out Iran navy if attacked, protects Saudi, and helps keep Egypt in check. Everyone would support this defensive posture.

5) USA in Med helps with Egypt and Leb.

6) Turkey vs. Syria????


Now Israel could go 1 on 1 with Iran (still a tough nut) and if Iran steps out of that direct conflict we have the right to protect. Also, anyone who would help Iran is held at bay. USA is not defending Israel, only the WORLDS oil.

I think Russia and China would go for this. It just came to me last night. I would love some feedback. You all have studied this and I'm sure you can tear many holes in it. Please do. I won't be offended.

Last Edited by AkivaJeff on 09/02/2012 10:01 AM
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Who takes care of hezbollah? Israel cant i think. since all resources will have to be directed towards iran. you know the key target is natanz and thats gonna take a while since they have to hit it multiple times.
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At some point the UN or NATO would have to help out. Plenty of Europeans to take care of Hez and Hamas. This is still a very general outline and I'm sure things will happen differently. This is also a very broad conception (WW3). I just thought #6 was about to come to pass.
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Repost from 9/2:

Israel could go it alone scenerio:

Just some thoughts not entirely thought out but would love some input. I'll keep it short.

1) Russia gets Georgia.

2) S Korea takes out pesky N Korea with our help. China wouldnt mind, I think. Good trade prospects. China may insist on Taiwon, though. (sticky wickit there)

3) USA in Afgh along with India keeps Paki in check. Drones are already in Paki.

4) USA in Hormuz region keeps straits open, could wipe out Iran navy if attacked, protects Saudi, and helps keep Egypt in check. Everyone would support this defensive posture.

5) USA in Med helps with Egypt and Leb.

6) Turkey vs. Syria????


Now Israel could go 1 on 1 with Iran (still a tough nut) and if Iran steps out of that direct conflict we have the right to protect. Also, anyone who would help Iran is held at bay. USA is not defending Israel, only the WORLDS oil.

I think Russia and China would go for this. It just came to me last night. I would love some feedback. You all have studied this and I'm sure you can tear many holes in it. Please do. I won't be offended.

Last Edited by AkivaJeff on 09/02/2012 10:01 AM
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Who takes care of hezbollah? Israel cant i think. since all resources will have to be directed towards iran. you know the key target is natanz and thats gonna take a while since they have to hit it multiple times.
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At some point the UN or NATO would have to help out. Plenty of Europeans to take care of Hez and Hamas. This is still a very general outline and I'm sure things will happen differently. This is also a very broad conception (WW3). I just thought #6 was about to come to pass.
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yes it seems its about to start but things will probably not be the way the west & israel think. as soon as syria gets invaded or a fly zone israel is looking at a lot of heat from a number of arab countries. remember the attack on lybia? yesterday i heard theres no us personal left there, they dont seem to be able to handle lybia what about the other countries?
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He was told by administration officials that the president would not change his mind about withholding US military intervention in Syria - especially after US intelligence briefed him last week that, according their latest assessment, Syrian President Bashar Assad would not hold out more than another six months. That is, until February-March 2013 at latest"

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If true, we will see the world change within the next 6 month.
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He was told by administration officials that the president would not change his mind about withholding US military intervention in Syria - especially after US intelligence briefed him last week that, according their latest assessment, Syrian President Bashar Assad would not hold out more than another six months. That is, until February-March 2013 at latest"

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If true, we will see the world change within the next 6 month.
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Better than an invasion of the US by communists, muslims, Russians, and Chinese.
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I was talking with my son last night about the possibility that the Obama admin was pushing the "video" reason for Lybia so that it would enflame the ME into starting something. If we said it was a terrorist (planned) attack it would not rile them as much. If we admit that it was because of the movie then it would make all of the muzzies pissed and possibly attack, revolt, etc. The point is that we (and Israel) would REALLY like it if we can say that we didn't start it. (not that it would help world opinion much anyway). As much as I hate our admin right now, I can't imagine them being so stupid. Plus they are being advised about strategic moves to get us in the "righteous" position for a fight.
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He was told by administration officials that the president would not change his mind about withholding US military intervention in Syria - especially after US intelligence briefed him last week that, according their latest assessment, Syrian President Bashar Assad would not hold out more than another six months. That is, until February-March 2013 at latest"

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The turkish parliament green card for Erdogan to send troops into Syria is meant for an invasion of the syrian kurdish autonomous regions.

Fuck you Turkey !!!!!
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Better than an invasion of the US by communists, muslims, Russians, and Chinese.
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LOL in your dreams. No way they could pull that.

Want to really get invaded?? Invade half the middle east and go bankrupt... and then you'll be so weak that you can be invaded.
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Better than an invasion of the US by communists, muslims, Russians, and Chinese.
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LOL in your dreams. No way they could pull that.

Want to really get invaded?? Invade half the middle east and go bankrupt... and then you'll be so weak that you can be invaded.
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The only country we have "Invaded" was Iraq.... i don't see that necessary in Iran... or anywhere else in the ME... i do see surgical strikes needed and thats whats coming for Libya in the near future....
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Better than an invasion of the US by communists, muslims, Russians, and Chinese.
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LOL in your dreams. No way they could pull that.

Want to really get invaded?? Invade half the middle east and go bankrupt... and then you'll be so weak that you can be invaded.
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And your point is China and others could then invade, we agree!
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Is the US losing control of the middle east? Given Obama weak showing at Wednesday's debate one has to wonder, will Obama step it up with military action or will he cool it down? I have to wonder if Obama want to be president....
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If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Better than an invasion of the US by communists, muslims, Russians, and Chinese.
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LOL in your dreams. No way they could pull that.

Want to really get invaded?? Invade half the middle east and go bankrupt... and then you'll be so weak that you can be invaded.
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We could go bankrupt a 1000 times it will never change the fact that we OWN all the f'in bullets. Big bullets and Small bullets we 0wn them all. There is a reason why our military budget is larger then the combine military budgets of the entire world.... Because we are mean, nasty, son of bitches that have a weak spot for our neighbors...Brought to you courtesy of the red white and blue. Oh wait, one more little tiny fact: The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States is 270,000,000 Just in case that number is lost on you, that Two Hundred Seventy MILLLLLLLLLION guns.

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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
On Topic Today - The Mess that is Libya....

Before I begin.... I wanted to address the rumors re: impending US military actions in Libya. Drones & increased intelligence? - okay.... Boots on the Ground (in any form)? - you have gotta be smoking something G left behind....

What is kryptonite to terrorists? Strange but true - Success...

From 19th century anarchists to 1970s communists every terrorist organization has fallen victim to it's own success. Rarely (in extremely rare cases) success means the terrorists take over - blowing up the man no longer works when you are the man...So when the terrorists take over they have to change into something else....

In most cases, success kills. The terrorists blow up something (or someone) significant and they finally get all of the attention they wanted (and more)....The public realizes that they actually have nothing to offer....Law enforcement moves in...a couple of show trials later....it's all over....

So why is AQ still around? September 11th should have been their great (fatal) success. They have no grand philosophy, no plan for governance ...They didn't even have a good follow-up attack planned. They are still around for one reason - Iraq...By putting Western forces on the ground in a Moslem country - we created a whole new generation of AQ and extended its lifespan by at least 10 years (and counting)..

So, now we have AQ in Eastern Libya - Derna - The town that has spawned more suicide bombers (per capita) than any other...And we're going to send Western troops in? We cannot be that stupid...Can we?

Libya Update - PM-elect Abushagar's MB-filled cabinet has not been well received...Last night Libya Herald reported: "Congressmen have reacted with fury at the proposed government of PM-elect Abushagur and vowed to vote against its ratification... "I can say with 100 per cent certainty that Congress will not vote for it”, said Ahmed Langi, a Benghazi congressman and one of the leaders of a recently established group of independent legislators...

Then today - Protesters from Libya's 5th largest city, Zawiyah, stormed the national assembly to protest the new cabinet. Around 150 demonstrators walked into the hall where congress meets, forcing the cancellation of a session to study the nominations. According to R**ters, protesters gathered in Zawiyah's main square last night and then today a group travelled to Tripoli to voice their anger.

The good news is that the disruption ended the GNC's debate on the proposed cabinet - which had turned into a blame the ex-pats session. Both new PM Abushugar & out-going PM Keib spent most of the last 30 years in the USA. President-elect Magarief spent the last 35 years either in the UK or the US....NTC PM Jibril spent 20 years in the US - but he had returned to Libya in 2007 (The others returned in 2011). Libyans have noticed that the "Americans" really don't have that much in common with them...

Zawiyah is an interesting city. It's west of Tripoli. Primarily Arab, it serves as a shopping hub for surrounding Amazigh towns. The Amazigh were early & active supporters of the uprising but they have not been represented in the transitional government. It is also near the traditional area of the Warshafana tribe which is described as Pro-G...It is close to Sorman - where Saadi Gaddafi's father-in-law's compound was bombed..
Note - BBC says protesters are from Zawiyah and Zuwara...Doubtful they would drive in together - Zuwara is an Amazigh town closer to Tunisian border...

Finally, late today (Libya time) PM Abushagur spoke on Libyan TV. He is withdrawing his proposed cabinet list, and he will deliver a new list on Sunday. Actually, this kind of oops let's try that again act has become fairly common in Libyan politics - it may be a holdover from Gaddafi's mercurial management style....

Congressmen pledge to reject Abushagur government - Libya Herald [link to www.libyaherald.com]

Abushagur withdraws cabinet proposals as Zawia protestors invade Congress - Libya Herald [link to www.libyaherald.com]
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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
If Romney is elected, prepare for a draft and an invasion of Iran and Syria bare minimum.
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Better than an invasion of the US by communists, muslims, Russians, and Chinese.
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LOL in your dreams. No way they could pull that.

Want to really get invaded?? Invade half the middle east and go bankrupt... and then you'll be so weak that you can be invaded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


We could go bankrupt a 1000 times it will never change the fact that we OWN all the f'in bullets. Big bullets and Small bullets we 0wn them all. There is a reason why our military budget is larger then the combine military budgets of the entire world.... Because we are mean, nasty, son of bitches that have a weak spot for our neighbors...Brought to you courtesy of the red white and blue. Oh wait, one more little tiny fact: The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States is 270,000,000 Just in case that number is lost on you, that Two Hundred Seventy MILLLLLLLLLION guns.

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that doesnt mean your enemy doesnt have they're bullets, and if you count russia, china, pakistan, iran, syria, hezbollah, thats a lot of bullets too

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