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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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There is something I don't understand.

You SAY that you have such a great political system that you want to spread it all over the world, but when it comes to the use of that marvelous system in your own country, it stinks?

Wasn't it supposed to bring the best of the best to the top? And now, when the process has been working, it brings the worst of the worst?

Somehow I think I smell something rotting.

Demoncracy, in all its forms, is a bad system, because it puts mankind on a throne that God never gave them. Demoncracy in all its forms is rebellion against the rules God gave (subjection to the rulers God set above us -and God never gave exceptions on that rule). And you thought God would bless that????
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For those of you who believe that Iran can't delivery a nuke, I'd like you look at a picture I captured from an article MM posted.

:sub carrying a n:

By the way the gun type nuke could be built in your local Junior college machine shop without supervision.
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Gaja man said some years ago, that the doom for Israel comes from the deep sea ..... .

I remember that, because that did not make sense at the time, now it does.

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#BREAKING: MSNBC projects Obama wins presidential election

Haven't gone to MSNBC website to confirm yet...
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Yep, my earlier post was foreboding and now it is official, Israel, you are alone. Just as G d said. Look out for some bad sht over the next four years.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Revelations playing out in front of our eyes!!!

Nuclear War not far away!!!

Israel will be attacked by Russia, China and an Arab/Islamist front!!!

All with the support of Barry Soetoro!!!

SAMPSON OPTION CLOSE!!!

IF WE GO DOWN, WE TAKE YOU WITH US!!!

AM YISROEL CHAI!!!

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I'm still partially in shock and sick to my stomach. We have arrived, the ride is not something I want to do... but must be done. Stay strong Momma Coop. Steve, I include the people in Israel in my prayers. The word remnant keeps popping to mind, this election helps to remind me of why.

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You know there is another thread with something I hadn't really caught before.

Revelation 13 (King James Version)

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Maybe Barry is more than I have ever given him credit for? I guess we'll soon see. I'm still keeping an eye on the Clintons though... She has done more behind the scenes than she will ever receive credit for and the world WOULD unanimously elect him ruler if ever given the chance. The rest of the world seems to worship him. I think whatever happens, although I'm watching and waiting, it will be things I never expected.

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well, at least I cleared my conscience yesterday, whatever comes more than likely bad or worse is on those that put him in offce, I for one thankfully don't have that hanging over me.
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I am concerned and anxious for our future. Based upon the statements we have heard Obama publicly make to Russia ("more flexibility") and the behind the scene agreements with groups like the MB we should all be very concerned and prepared for the worst.

Last night, this country traded individual freedom, the Constitution, economic and national security for abortion, gay marriage, Obama phones and Big Bird.

This is how Republics die.

Now we are faced with two more years of gridlock as and IF the Republicans who control the House can stymie Obama’s march towards European socialism. Or perhaps they will not. If they do, they will create political suicide as the Democrats paint them as obstructionists to progress and defeat them in the 2014 congressional elections.

Then Obama, with the Democrats in control, can administer the final coup d'état on the country.

But let’s not ignore one thing. We will most certainly be in a major war within 2 to 4 years prompted by Obama’s second term -- if the Israelis don’t drag us into one when they attack Iran before then -- sooner than later.

By then, this country, suffering under Obama’s policies, would be unprepared both financially and militarily to fight one.

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I am concerned and anxious for our future. Based upon the statements we have heard Obama publicly make to Russia and the behind the scene agreements with groups like the MB we should all be very concerned and prepared for the worst.

Last night, this country traded individual freedom, the Constitution, economic and national security for abortion, gay marriage, Obama phones and Big Bird.

This is how Republics die.

Now we are faced with two more years of gridlock as and IF the Republicans who control the House can stymie Obama’s march towards European socialism. Or perhaps they will not. If they do, they will create political suicide as the Democrats paint them as obstructionists to progress and defeat them in the 2014 congressional elections.

Then Obama, with the Democrats in control, can administer the final coup d'état on the country.

But let’s not ignore one thing. We will most certainly be in a major war within 2 to 4 years prompted by Obama’s second term -- if the Israelis don’t drag us into one when they attack Iran before then -- sooner than later.

By then, this country, suffering under Obama’s policies, would be unprepared both financially and militarily to fight one.
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nice summary
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well, at least I cleared my conscience yesterday, whatever comes more than likely bad or worse is on those that put him in offce, I for one thankfully don't have that hanging over me.
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Yep.
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I am even having a hard time swallowing my State's decisions this morning.

There is much to this about Obama and the World's decree to give him four more years. He is a tool in G d's hands like it or not. Not that he is following G d's will but G d is letting us fail and fail miserably now that we are a nation with no moral values and no moral compass. We and fellow nations shall suffer greatly.

Iran will now feel empowered and even play a game with Obama to protect herself from attack by perhaps entering false agreements that she has agred not to enrich uranium beyond a cerrtain point while much rumor indicates that Iran has other locations that are enriching uramium to weapons grade levels behind the scene.

Israel, where are your promised weapons from obama for not attacking Iran when you should have?

Syria, you are now going to face what Gaddafi did.

Economy, we will watch you crumble.
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So, I guess now the big question is...

If You Were Israel What Would You Do?
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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So, I guess now the big question is...

If You Were Israel What Would You Do?
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if I was bibi..attack...now....don't tell DC
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So, I guess now the big question is...

If You Were Israel What Would You Do?
 Quoting: Gerry52


Good to see you back Gerry -

It seems to me that they have two choices:

1) brush up on their Arabic/ Aramaic/ Farsi/ etc and develop efficiency in digging large graves

2) cut the ties with "quasi-friends" that seem to crate more trouble than they settle, and take on the neighborhood bully(ies) alone.

If you could label those as "choices"
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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So, I guess now the big question is...

If You Were Israel What Would You Do?
 Quoting: Gerry52


Good to see you back Gerry -

It seems to me that they have two choices:

1) brush up on their Arabic/ Aramaic/ Farsi/ etc and develop efficiency in digging large graves

2) cut the ties with "quasi-friends" that seem to crate more trouble than they settle, and take on the neighborhood bully(ies) alone.

If you could label those as "choices"
 Quoting: ClydeX


When you are forced to select from two evils, you have no choice but to choose evil. I'm seeing a surgical strike to at best, delay the inevitable. It may however give them enough time to continue the fight in ways that don't involve direct combat. I'm thinking continued cyber attacks as well as creating hate and discontent amongst the younger generation in Iran. Political change can be a very powerful modifier. Either way, Israel is not in an enviable position.
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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So, I guess now the big question is...

If You Were Israel What Would You Do?
 Quoting: Gerry52


Good to see you back Gerry -

It seems to me that they have two choices:

1) brush up on their Arabic/ Aramaic/ Farsi/ etc and develop efficiency in digging large graves

2) cut the ties with "quasi-friends" that seem to crate more trouble than they settle, and take on the neighborhood bully(ies) alone.

If you could label those as "choices"
 Quoting: ClydeX


When you are forced to select from two evils, you have no choice but to choose evil. I'm seeing a surgical strike to at best, delay the inevitable. It may however give them enough time to continue the fight in ways that don't involve direct combat. I'm thinking continued cyber attacks as well as creating hate and discontent amongst the younger generation in Iran. Political change can be a very powerful modifier. Either way, Israel is not in an enviable position.
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I too foresee some additional covert action, but not just against Iran directly but the Hezbollah too. Just like last December. Now that Obama is through his election, Israel does not have its hands tied. Whether warning signs indicate reasons for Israel to out-right attack earlier are anyone's guess without Mossad and/or CIA sources. Of itnerest though, Bibi knows that Obama will work against him in the coming election, thus he may keep his own hands tied for the moment, but issue a threat to Obama that if he does get invovled in israeli politics, then it becomes a no holds barred regional war immediately!
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So, I guess now the big question is...

If You Were Israel What Would You Do?
 Quoting: Gerry52


Good to see you back Gerry -

It seems to me that they have two choices:

1) brush up on their Arabic/ Aramaic/ Farsi/ etc and develop efficiency in digging large graves

2) cut the ties with "quasi-friends" that seem to crate more trouble than they settle, and take on the neighborhood bully(ies) alone.

If you could label those as "choices"
 Quoting: ClydeX


When you are forced to select from two evils, you have no choice but to choose evil. I'm seeing a surgical strike to at best, delay the inevitable. It may however give them enough time to continue the fight in ways that don't involve direct combat. I'm thinking continued cyber attacks as well as creating hate and discontent amongst the younger generation in Iran. Political change can be a very powerful modifier. Either way, Israel is not in an enviable position.
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I too foresee some additional covert action, but not just against Iran directly but the Hezbollah too. Just like last December. Now that Obama is through his election, Israel does not have its hands tied. Whether warning signs indicate reasons for Israel to out-right attack earlier are anyone's guess without Mossad and/or CIA sources. Of itnerest though, Bibi knows that Obama will work against him in the coming election, thus he may keep his own hands tied for the moment, but issue a threat to Obama that if he does get invovled in israeli politics, then it becomes a no holds barred regional war immediately!
 Quoting: MIL MAN


MM, Gerry, Steve and others I honestly still see nothing that would lead me to believe that an attack is coming now or at anytime in the near future, what I think has a larger chance of happening is the enemies of America and Israel striking first and hitting us hard, how hard I guess depends on how it goes down. O is a reactionary president not a pre emptive one. Even if America burns he may still do nothing about it. Bibi I'm sad to say is all words as far as I'm concerned, words don't stop rockets or suicide bombers unfortunately, and it doesn't stop Iran more imporantly.

That's my two cents I must admit I am biased due to the results of the election.
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Good to see you back Gerry -

It seems to me that they have two choices:

1) brush up on their Arabic/ Aramaic/ Farsi/ etc and develop efficiency in digging large graves

2) cut the ties with "quasi-friends" that seem to crate more trouble than they settle, and take on the neighborhood bully(ies) alone.

If you could label those as "choices"
 Quoting: ClydeX


When you are forced to select from two evils, you have no choice but to choose evil. I'm seeing a surgical strike to at best, delay the inevitable. It may however give them enough time to continue the fight in ways that don't involve direct combat. I'm thinking continued cyber attacks as well as creating hate and discontent amongst the younger generation in Iran. Political change can be a very powerful modifier. Either way, Israel is not in an enviable position.
 Quoting: Gerry52


I too foresee some additional covert action, but not just against Iran directly but the Hezbollah too. Just like last December. Now that Obama is through his election, Israel does not have its hands tied. Whether warning signs indicate reasons for Israel to out-right attack earlier are anyone's guess without Mossad and/or CIA sources. Of itnerest though, Bibi knows that Obama will work against him in the coming election, thus he may keep his own hands tied for the moment, but issue a threat to Obama that if he does get invovled in israeli politics, then it becomes a no holds barred regional war immediately!
 Quoting: MIL MAN


MM, Gerry, Steve and others I honestly still see nothing that would lead me to believe that an attack is coming now or at anytime in the near future, what I think has a larger chance of happening is the enemies of America and Israel striking first and hitting us hard, how hard I guess depends on how it goes down. O is a reactionary president not a pre emptive one. Even if America burns he may still do nothing about it. Bibi I'm sad to say is all words as far as I'm concerned, words don't stop rockets or suicide bombers unfortunately, and it doesn't stop Iran more imporantly.

That's my two cents I must admit I am biased due to the results of the election.
 Quoting: godzilla85


I am seeing Israel preparing for a retaliatory strike. I don't think they are preparing for a first strike because despite how crazy we think their enemies are, none of them are crazy enough to launch a major first strike on Israel. I also don't believe that we, the USA could be hit hard enough to cause us to "burn". We withstood 9/11 with little disruption to the rest of the country when you look at the big picture. We could withstand much more and still come out on top. Yup, Obama is going to continue to do damage to the US and it's economy...will we survive it?, yup, we will and short of a bunch of republicans rioting in the streets (the picture in my mind is somewhat comical) we are simply going to have to adapt and overcome, fail to adapt or leave...I don't see many other alternatives and I know what my choice is.
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When you are forced to select from two evils, you have no choice but to choose evil. I'm seeing a surgical strike to at best, delay the inevitable. It may however give them enough time to continue the fight in ways that don't involve direct combat. I'm thinking continued cyber attacks as well as creating hate and discontent amongst the younger generation in Iran. Political change can be a very powerful modifier. Either way, Israel is not in an enviable position.
 Quoting: Gerry52


I too foresee some additional covert action, but not just against Iran directly but the Hezbollah too. Just like last December. Now that Obama is through his election, Israel does not have its hands tied. Whether warning signs indicate reasons for Israel to out-right attack earlier are anyone's guess without Mossad and/or CIA sources. Of itnerest though, Bibi knows that Obama will work against him in the coming election, thus he may keep his own hands tied for the moment, but issue a threat to Obama that if he does get invovled in israeli politics, then it becomes a no holds barred regional war immediately!
 Quoting: MIL MAN


MM, Gerry, Steve and others I honestly still see nothing that would lead me to believe that an attack is coming now or at anytime in the near future, what I think has a larger chance of happening is the enemies of America and Israel striking first and hitting us hard, how hard I guess depends on how it goes down. O is a reactionary president not a pre emptive one. Even if America burns he may still do nothing about it. Bibi I'm sad to say is all words as far as I'm concerned, words don't stop rockets or suicide bombers unfortunately, and it doesn't stop Iran more imporantly.

That's my two cents I must admit I am biased due to the results of the election.
 Quoting: godzilla85


I am seeing Israel preparing for a retaliatory strike. I don't think they are preparing for a first strike because despite how crazy we think their enemies are, none of them are crazy enough to launch a major first strike on Israel. I also don't believe that we, the USA could be hit hard enough to cause us to "burn". We withstood 9/11 with little disruption to the rest of the country when you look at the big picture. We could withstand much more and still come out on top. Yup, Obama is going to continue to do damage to the US and it's economy...will we survive it?, yup, we will and short of a bunch of republicans rioting in the streets (the picture in my mind is somewhat comical) we are simply going to have to adapt and overcome, fail to adapt or leave...I don't see many other alternatives and I know what my choice is.
 Quoting: Gerry52


Gerry,

1. We have heard of two high level Generals that have been "recalled". How deep has this gone? Or, did it stop with these two and (my opinion) was the purpose to send a message to all high level commanders?

2. Could you explain and do you expect, "I also don't believe that we, the USA could be hit hard enough to cause us to "burn". Is burn defined as turned into a "parking lot" or "back to the stone age"?

3. The military can make it easy for a president or hard for a president and, I would think, right up to not following, to the letter, his commands. Your opinion, were are we?

Thanks
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Momma, if this man wins, we are doomed!!!

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Unfortunately I agree with you. I am not entirely sure I am emotionally ready to deal with the reality that is about to be forced upon us. Part of me still hoped I would not live to see the end of days, that part of me now knows better.

It is a terrifying thought.
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Unfortunately, it has been a gradual and destructive path to what we are seeing!!!

Welfare recipients, Radical Gays, Anti Jews/Christians (Radical Islam), Abortionists (Baby Killers) and Minority America haters have all joined Satan's army to hasten our destruction!!!

RIP USA!!!

ARMAGEDDON IS NEAR!!!

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Lets see if i understand correctly, people who are either gay, or choose to get an abortion are contributing to America's demise? Our views sure differ. I for one am relieved to see Barry win. In my opinion, he is far less prone to lobbing nukes unjustly.
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abomb abomb abomb
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ISRAELI OFFICIAL: ‘WE WILL NOT CAPITULATE BEFORE OBAMA.’ Warns president’s reelection means Jewish state must ‘take care of its own’


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Nov. 6, 2012 - The Day America Died

Nov. 6, 2012 - The Day America Died

The people have spoken.
They desired more of the same from their king of an unknown land.
They will get what they wanted but not what they expected!

A king with a mandate. Four more years to finish the task.
Moving "forward" to completion.
He will loot their wallets, raze their cities, and hobble their freedoms.

A destroying wind who takes many prisoners.
Before him, a breath that poisons with lies.
Behind him a wake of destruction and desolation.

His words are the sting of an adder. His smile the leer of a jackal.
The pompous one armed with the keys to the city.
Keys that were forged in the smelter of hell.

The first four years began the siege.
The next four will bring the destruction.
A new army of dark occupation has entered the city.

It was welcomed with applause.
The clapping of the blind ones.
Their coming wounds welcomed with loud cheers.

So through the gates he arrived.
He will loot their riches and strip their wells dry.
He will torment them with a sneer and peel their land with a nod.

America had her turn.
She did not turn.
Now their King from the Land of Ra will have his turn.


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17:15 More than 37,000 people have been killed since the outbreak of Syria's anti-regime revolt in March 2011, with over 1,000 dead in the past week, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Wednesday.

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G Ds will shall be done.
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Obama's first foreign visit will be to Turkey...

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The US Ambassador to Turkey said on Wednesday that US President Barack Obama who was re-elected on Tuesday for second term would make his first foreign visit to Turkey. . .

If Obama visits Turkey, dealing with the festering Syrian conflict would be the main topic in his agenda.

I've had a couple of neighbors visit Turkey recently....interesting...
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I too foresee some additional covert action, but not just against Iran directly but the Hezbollah too. Just like last December. Now that Obama is through his election, Israel does not have its hands tied. Whether warning signs indicate reasons for Israel to out-right attack earlier are anyone's guess without Mossad and/or CIA sources. Of itnerest though, Bibi knows that Obama will work against him in the coming election, thus he may keep his own hands tied for the moment, but issue a threat to Obama that if he does get invovled in israeli politics, then it becomes a no holds barred regional war immediately!
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MM, Gerry, Steve and others I honestly still see nothing that would lead me to believe that an attack is coming now or at anytime in the near future, what I think has a larger chance of happening is the enemies of America and Israel striking first and hitting us hard, how hard I guess depends on how it goes down. O is a reactionary president not a pre emptive one. Even if America burns he may still do nothing about it. Bibi I'm sad to say is all words as far as I'm concerned, words don't stop rockets or suicide bombers unfortunately, and it doesn't stop Iran more imporantly.

That's my two cents I must admit I am biased due to the results of the election.
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I am seeing Israel preparing for a retaliatory strike. I don't think they are preparing for a first strike because despite how crazy we think their enemies are, none of them are crazy enough to launch a major first strike on Israel. I also don't believe that we, the USA could be hit hard enough to cause us to "burn". We withstood 9/11 with little disruption to the rest of the country when you look at the big picture. We could withstand much more and still come out on top. Yup, Obama is going to continue to do damage to the US and it's economy...will we survive it?, yup, we will and short of a bunch of republicans rioting in the streets (the picture in my mind is somewhat comical) we are simply going to have to adapt and overcome, fail to adapt or leave...I don't see many other alternatives and I know what my choice is.
 Quoting: Gerry52


Gerry,

1. We have heard of two high level Generals that have been "recalled". How deep has this gone? Or, did it stop with these two and (my opinion) was the purpose to send a message to all high level commanders?

2. Could you explain and do you expect, "I also don't believe that we, the USA could be hit hard enough to cause us to "burn". Is burn defined as turned into a "parking lot" or "back to the stone age"?

3. The military can make it easy for a president or hard for a president and, I would think, right up to not following, to the letter, his commands. Your opinion, were are we?

Thanks
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1.Don't know.

2.I envision burning as meaning somewhere in the political area of complete anarchy. Although it was originally someone elses word that was copied from their post.

3. I know that as a group they generally dislike him, however they are disciplined enough to do the right thing. There are always generalizations and anecdotal evidence of wrongs committed by soldiers, but as a whole they will do the right thing when the time comes. I have faith, you may not.

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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
Summary of Obama's foreign policy challenges over the coming SIX MONTHS (Yikes)

Syria - Should the United States press for a U.N. mandate to intervene in Syria's bloody civil war? Should the United States lead a coalition (from in front or from behind) on Syria with or without a U.N. mandate? Given declining leverage in the region, how can the United States mitigate the damage of the spiraling sectarian warfare in the Middle East?

Mali - How involved should the United States be in an intervention in Mali?

Libya - Beyond the obvious steps of hunting and bringing to justice the terrorists who carried out the Benghazi attack, how should the United States deal with a Libya that is spiraling towards chaos?

Iran - What is the worst deal we can live with on the Iranian nuclear program? Should we surrender redlines regarding enrichment that all Administrations have insisted on? What should we do if that "worst deal" is still not good enough to satisfy the Iranians? Is a military strike that only delays an Iranian nuclear program worse than learning to live with a nuclear Iran?

Pakistan & Egypt - How should the United States manage relations with partners like Pakistan and Egypt, who are too dangerous to fail and apparently too frail to ensure our interests and values?

Europe - What, if anything, can and should the United States do if the eurozone inches towards a collapse?

China - If China's rocky leadership transition produces spikes in hyper-nationalism and adventurism, can we simultaneously reassure our allies and partners in Asia without triggering escalation spirals?

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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
The US Ambassador to Turkey said on Wednesday that US President Barack Obama who was re-elected on Tuesday for second term would make his first foreign visit to Turkey. . .
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Something tells me that was included in a promise with a few other things.
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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
Summary of Obama's foreign policy challenges over the coming SIX MONTHS (Yikes)

Syria - Should the United States press for a U.N. mandate to intervene in Syria's bloody civil war? Should the United States lead a coalition (from in front or from behind) on Syria with or without a U.N. mandate? Given declining leverage in the region, how can the United States mitigate the damage of the spiraling sectarian warfare in the Middle East?

Mali - How involved should the United States be in an intervention in Mali?

Libya - Beyond the obvious steps of hunting and bringing to justice the terrorists who carried out the Benghazi attack, how should the United States deal with a Libya that is spiraling towards chaos?

Iran - What is the worst deal we can live with on the Iranian nuclear program? Should we surrender redlines regarding enrichment that all Administrations have insisted on? What should we do if that "worst deal" is still not good enough to satisfy the Iranians? Is a military strike that only delays an Iranian nuclear program worse than learning to live with a nuclear Iran?

Pakistan & Egypt - How should the United States manage relations with partners like Pakistan and Egypt, who are too dangerous to fail and apparently too frail to ensure our interests and values?

Europe - What, if anything, can and should the United States do if the eurozone inches towards a collapse?

China - If China's rocky leadership transition produces spikes in hyper-nationalism and adventurism, can we simultaneously reassure our allies and partners in Asia without triggering escalation spirals?

[link to shadow.foreignpolicy.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Obama, the 7th november 2012:
"The best is yet to come".

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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
3 mortar shells fired from Syria hit Israel

Three mortar shells were fired from Syria into northern Israel on Thursday, in what appears to have been an errant targeting.

One of the shells landed on the fence surrounding the Alonei Habashan community, but did not explode. The other two exploded in open areas. No casualties were reported.

This is the third security incident involving Syria in less than a week.

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