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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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LOL!! that so should be an alert level
 Quoting: godzilla85


Not to make light of a very dire situation, But I'm off tonight. For the love of God can't they wait until I have to go back to work before they start the apocalypse?
 Quoting: BioReaper


eh the heck with it, make light of it, may not get another chance to.
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How bad is this likely to get? I'm thinking Israel will bomb the bejeebus out of Gaza and Hamas will go through the motions of a truce, and Israel will stop. Again. But if not, just how far will this go? Are we looking at a complete ground invasion and takeover? Sorry if these are stupid questions. Military tactics are not my strong point.

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Full-on ground invasion is stronger than a possibility at this point.

For those of us here in the US (and other Western nations) the threat level has heightened as a result of Hamas/ Hezbollah being now backed into a corner and getting spanked. This means we must remain vigilant for those events that may take place as a result of:

1) those sympathetic to the muzzie's plight against Israel
2) those puposefully placed within our borders in order to enact harm once directed
3) the possibilities of even a false-flag event in order to justify stronger, more direct movement on Syria/ Iran

We are now living in a time of historic events unfolding. They will not all be seen or understood today, but I do believe the very near future we shall be amazed at both the speed and intensity of events unfolding.
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
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Not good.
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IDF Rescuing Jewish Worshipers from Terrorist Mob

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JPOST LATEST UPDATES

21:47
Police: Rocket hits Ashdod house; no injuries


21:47
Egypt recalls envoy in Israel over assault on Gaza


21:35
Channel 2: Iron Dome intercepts rocket near Ahsdod


21:33
NGOs open hotline to host residents of the South


21:15
Three Gaza rockets explode in Eshkol region of the South
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
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Not good.
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eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
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Not good.
 Quoting: BioReaper


eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
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Good question. Does his fanaticism win out over self preservation? I'm thinking he is not stupid enough. But then again I didn't think hamas would lob rockets at a nuclear plant either. Go figure.
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
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Not good.
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eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
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Do not think he has much to worry about concerning funding, look who is in the Whitehouse.

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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Not good.
 Quoting: BioReaper


eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
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Do not think he has much to worry about concerning funding, look who is in the Whitehouse.

ogrrr
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And also instrumental in putting Morsi and MB in position
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Police: Direct rocket strike on house in Ashford #Israel #Jpost #Gaza
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asking how things are going, the response back was, THINGS ARE FLUID, and that included the northern border.
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Not good.
 Quoting: BioReaper


eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Do not think he has much to worry about concerning funding, look who is in the Whitehouse.

ogrrr
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And also instrumental in putting Morsi and MB in position
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he doesn't have a congress that's entirely on his side, with the benghazi mess some are looking for a reason to impeach his ass
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MM - At what point, if at all, do you think Hamas would attempt to launch some of their longer ranged missiles/rockets towards Tel-Aviv?
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11/14/12, 3:32 PM
RT @RZabaneh: BREAKING on #AlJazeera: Israeli ambassador to #Egypt will be leaving in few hours.

Note - @acarvin is retweeting a number of English language tweets from Israelis who are under rocket fire....
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MM - At what point, if at all, do you think Hamas would attempt to launch some of their longer ranged missiles/rockets towards Tel-Aviv?
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Four points to ponder, first, does Hamas think they are losing their political and literal life? If so they would wish to start launching said weapons when the fear of death becomes imminent so to hope there would be international support for a truce.

Second, the long range missiles are on loan from Iran. THus, they must have a very good reason to use them verses lose them and it may require permission from Iran. Iran would not give permission without the hopes of an attack that could cripple Israel for a duration until Iran gets its nukes in order.

Third, the missiles are a bargaining chip and if sued, there are no bargains.

Fourth, Dimona was a red line, Hamas past by that red line, appears they would not fear passing another red line launchign a long-range missile on Tel-Aviv. That is, as long as Israel did not find all of them.
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Rocket Attack Causes Power Outage in Eshkol Region

Gaza enemy forces continue to fire rockets into Israel. Approximately ten rockets were shot into the Eshkol region. One hit a power cable causing blackouts. The Israeli electric company is dealing with the issue.
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Egypt raises alert level on Gaza border
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Egypt recalls envoy over IAF air strikes. Iron Dome hits 17 out of 50 missiles
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
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Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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why call up the reserves then? To sure up against agression by Egypt or Syria? What about the massing near gaza of troops and armor?
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Reports of recall of Israel's ambassador to Egypt retracted...

Rena Netjes (@RenaNetjes)
11/14/12, 3:51 PM
AlArabiya TV: Israeli diplomat: Israeli ambassador has not been recalled, embassy operates as usual.

He is flying back to Israel, but he does that every weekend.

But then there's this - Egyptian media is reporting he's suddenly leaving...

[link to english.ahram.org.eg]

Final Update on Ambassador -

Bel Trew -(@Beltrew)
11/14/12, 4:32 PM
RT @DanWilliams Israeli ambassador usually leaves Cairo Thursdays for weekends @home.This departure w/ his staff smacks of a low-key recall
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
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Not good.
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eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Do not think he has much to worry about concerning funding, look who is in the Whitehouse.

ogrrr
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i can totaly see netanyahoo singing in the shower

aaaaaaaaaallll by myyyyy seeeeelf
dont wanna be all by myyyy seeeelf
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Give it a day or so for Hamas to bury their dead. Then the real fireworks will start.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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Not so sure I agree MM, it's still relatively early in the night, and we know they've already stated this is the beginning - not the end.

I guess we'll see, but as dynamic as things are now and the assets that are into/ moving into place, I'm not ready to wager bets either way.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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why call up the reserves then? To sure up against agression by Egypt or Syria? What about the massing near gaza of troops and armor?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Israel always wants to maintain the old saying which is a good offense is your best defense. I am not saying Israel will not go into Gaza, but unless they find that the missile fire keeps up and perhaps surprising new weapons are used, Israel can sit back on the border and just prepare as SF and the airforce can keep doing their job. If Hamas chooses to bring its forces to the border likewise (thousands of angry young men with rifles) then Israel can then directly sue its forces secured on the border. Again, things are very fluid right now.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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Not so sure I agree MM, it's still relatively early in the night, and we know they've already stated this is the beginning - not the end.

I guess we'll see, but as dynamic as things are now and the assets that are into/ moving into place, I'm not ready to wager bets either way.
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AND, that is the way they like to keep it, keep em all guessing!!!
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I will say this too, the following does make it quite easy to wake up the next day to the fact Israel has called up its entire fighting force and the wipes out the Hezbollah!


Report: IDF Reserve Soldiers to Be Called Up
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Cabinet Secretary Zvi Hauser said Wednesday night that the Cabinet decided to allow the army, as appropriate, and with the approval of the Minister of Defense, to call up reserve forces. This refers to former soldiers currently living civilian lives who still participate in annual reserve duty.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Not so sure I agree MM, it's still relatively early in the night, and we know they've already stated this is the beginning - not the end.

I guess we'll see, but as dynamic as things are now and the assets that are into/ moving into place, I'm not ready to wager bets either way.
 Quoting: ClydeX


AND, that is the way they like to keep it, keep em all guessing!!!
popcorn
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Haha! Absolutely!
I do think the heat will begin to rise on the Northern and Eastern fronts, and accept that if I perceive those threats sitting here in the US, the IDF has more than planned/ are planning for those operational parameters and the contingencies that accompany them.

The next 72 hrs+ will prove to be very dynamic, but again, how often do we get to watch history being written?
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Pillar of cloud by day. Pillar of fire by night.... I think the Israelis have some coming surprises up their sleeves.
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