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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Reports of recall of Israel's ambassador to Egypt retracted...

Rena Netjes (@RenaNetjes)
11/14/12, 3:51 PM
AlArabiya TV: Israeli diplomat: Israeli ambassador has not been recalled, embassy operates as usual.

He is flying back to Israel, but he does that every weekend.

But then there's this - Egyptian media is reporting he's suddenly leaving...

[link to english.ahram.org.eg]

Final Update on Ambassador -

Bel Trew -(@Beltrew)
11/14/12, 4:32 PM
RT @DanWilliams Israeli ambassador usually leaves Cairo Thursdays for weekends @home.This departure w/ his staff smacks of a low-key recall
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Morsi summons Israeli ambassador; recalls Egyptian one
[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Not good.
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eh for now Morsi is all talk, does he really wanna risk losing american funding by going to war with Israel?
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Do not think he has much to worry about concerning funding, look who is in the Whitehouse.

ogrrr
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i can totaly see netanyahoo singing in the shower

aaaaaaaaaallll by myyyyy seeeeelf
dont wanna be all by myyyy seeeelf
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Give it a day or so for Hamas to bury their dead. Then the real fireworks will start.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
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Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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Not so sure I agree MM, it's still relatively early in the night, and we know they've already stated this is the beginning - not the end.

I guess we'll see, but as dynamic as things are now and the assets that are into/ moving into place, I'm not ready to wager bets either way.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
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Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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why call up the reserves then? To sure up against agression by Egypt or Syria? What about the massing near gaza of troops and armor?
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Israel always wants to maintain the old saying which is a good offense is your best defense. I am not saying Israel will not go into Gaza, but unless they find that the missile fire keeps up and perhaps surprising new weapons are used, Israel can sit back on the border and just prepare as SF and the airforce can keep doing their job. If Hamas chooses to bring its forces to the border likewise (thousands of angry young men with rifles) then Israel can then directly sue its forces secured on the border. Again, things are very fluid right now.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
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Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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Not so sure I agree MM, it's still relatively early in the night, and we know they've already stated this is the beginning - not the end.

I guess we'll see, but as dynamic as things are now and the assets that are into/ moving into place, I'm not ready to wager bets either way.
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AND, that is the way they like to keep it, keep em all guessing!!!
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I will say this too, the following does make it quite easy to wake up the next day to the fact Israel has called up its entire fighting force and the wipes out the Hezbollah!


Report: IDF Reserve Soldiers to Be Called Up
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Cabinet Secretary Zvi Hauser said Wednesday night that the Cabinet decided to allow the army, as appropriate, and with the approval of the Minister of Defense, to call up reserve forces. This refers to former soldiers currently living civilian lives who still participate in annual reserve duty.
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Arab League to meet Saturday on Gaza attack, Egypt's news agency reports, quoting league official - via breakingnews.com

guess Gaza isn't that pressing for a meeting like tomorrow or right now.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Gives Israel a few days to reach these following goals as set out by Barak:
The goals of the operation are as follows:

* Strengthening our deterrence
* To inflict serious damage on the rocket launching network
* To deliver a painful blow for Hamas and the other terrorist organizations
* To minimize damage to our home front


When you review these goals, it truly seems less than likely that Israel must enter Gaza by land to do this. Instead, a ground operation is appearing less than likely at this time.
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Not so sure I agree MM, it's still relatively early in the night, and we know they've already stated this is the beginning - not the end.

I guess we'll see, but as dynamic as things are now and the assets that are into/ moving into place, I'm not ready to wager bets either way.
 Quoting: ClydeX


AND, that is the way they like to keep it, keep em all guessing!!!
popcorn
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Haha! Absolutely!
I do think the heat will begin to rise on the Northern and Eastern fronts, and accept that if I perceive those threats sitting here in the US, the IDF has more than planned/ are planning for those operational parameters and the contingencies that accompany them.

The next 72 hrs+ will prove to be very dynamic, but again, how often do we get to watch history being written?
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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Pillar of cloud by day. Pillar of fire by night.... I think the Israelis have some coming surprises up their sleeves.
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Rumors of a couple Israeli deaths, not sure it is true, but at least 14 Israelis injured so far. Civilian deaths will not be treated kindly.

I would say that this moment has been planned for quite some time and Israel will not let its enemies down by backing down if many islamic fanatics wish to get to their virgins in heaven sooner verses later.

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Rumors of a couple Israeli deaths, not sure it is true, but at least 14 Israelis injured so far. Civilian deaths will not be treated kindly.

I would say that this moment has been planned for quite some time and Israel will not let its enemies down by backing down if many islamic fanatics wish to get to their virgins in heaven sooner verses later.

explosion
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Hearing rumors that a missile may have hit an Israeli navy ship. Have you heard anything about that?
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Rumors of a couple Israeli deaths, not sure it is true, but at least 14 Israelis injured so far. Civilian deaths will not be treated kindly.

I would say that this moment has been planned for quite some time and Israel will not let its enemies down by backing down if many islamic fanatics wish to get to their virgins in heaven sooner verses later.

explosion
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Hearing rumors that a missile may have hit an Israeli navy ship. Have you heard anything about that?
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other rumors (from other thread):
5 rockets have hit tel aviv
rockets have hit northern israel from the north

guess we'll see (eventually) what's true
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21:37 GMT: Israeli National Security Minister Avi Dichter: "We have no intention to end this round of fighting and suffer more hits in the next"
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From Treyfish on one of the other threads:

At the time of writing, reports are coming in of leaflets being dropped by the Israeli Occupation Forces in the North of Gaza warning of an overland invasion in the area. [link to www.scoop.co.nz]
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If TEL AVIV is hit, ground troops will pour into Gaza, we are assured of that.

No confirmation yet.


At Least 70 Rockets Fired at Southern Israel

Gaza-based terrorists fire a barrage of rockets at southern Israel. Iron Dome intercepts 20 of the rockets.
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oops, now:
Gazans fire 83 rockets into Israel; Iron Dome intercepts 25
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MM any truth to twitter reports stating that a ground incursion has started?
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MM any truth to twitter reports stating that a ground incursion has started?
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They are not in there yet . . . in force, only special ops dressed as arabs.



Four booms during the Color Red in Beersheba just now #Israel #Gaza #Jpost
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4:10 PM
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RT @Benhartman: Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza



4:09 PM
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Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza


3:58 PM
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Clarification: No rockets were fired from #Gaza on Tel-Aviv. #Hamas propaganda is constantly spreading misinformation.
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anyone hear anything from Steve? would love his take on all this right now since he's probably got family in harms way (hope they are safe though)
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MM any truth to twitter reports stating that a ground incursion has started?
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They are not in there yet . . . in force, only special ops dressed as arabs.



Four booms during the Color Red in Beersheba just now #Israel #Gaza #Jpost
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4:10 PM
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RT @Benhartman: Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza



4:09 PM
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Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza


3:58 PM
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Clarification: No rockets were fired from #Gaza on Tel-Aviv. #Hamas propaganda is constantly spreading misinformation.

 Quoting: MIL MAN



It's 01:15 in Israel now - those reports were from late afternoon/ early evening.

There have been some reports that the power station in Southern Tel Aviv was hit - still looking for more confirmation (I do have one feed, looking for additional)
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MM any truth to twitter reports stating that a ground incursion has started?
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They are not in there yet . . . in force, only special ops dressed as arabs.



Four booms during the Color Red in Beersheba just now #Israel #Gaza #Jpost
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RT @Benhartman: Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza



4:09 PM
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Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza


3:58 PM
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Clarification: No rockets were fired from #Gaza on Tel-Aviv. #Hamas propaganda is constantly spreading misinformation.

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It's 01:15 in Israel now - those reports were from late afternoon/ early evening.

There have been some reports that the power station in Southern Tel Aviv was hit - still looking for more confirmation (I do have one feed, looking for additional)
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haaretz has a live blog from what I understand that may yield new findings
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MM any truth to twitter reports stating that a ground incursion has started?
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They are not in there yet . . . in force, only special ops dressed as arabs.



Four booms during the Color Red in Beersheba just now #Israel #Gaza #Jpost
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4:10 PM
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RT @Benhartman: Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza



4:09 PM
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Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza


3:58 PM
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Clarification: No rockets were fired from #Gaza on Tel-Aviv. #Hamas propaganda is constantly spreading misinformation.

 Quoting: MIL MAN



It's 01:15 in Israel now - those reports were from late afternoon/ early evening.

There have been some reports that the power station in Southern Tel Aviv was hit - still looking for more confirmation (I do have one feed, looking for additional)
 Quoting: ClydeX


haaretz has a live blog from what I understand that may yield new findings
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No, these are coded for the time from m time zone, it is accurate to Israeli events in my time.
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They are not in there yet . . . in force, only special ops dressed as arabs.



Four booms during the Color Red in Beersheba just now #Israel #Gaza #Jpost
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4:10 PM
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RT @Benhartman: Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza



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Another Code Red siren right now in Beersheba #Jpost #Israel #Gaza


3:58 PM
IDF @IDFSpokesperson
Clarification: No rockets were fired from #Gaza on Tel-Aviv. #Hamas propaganda is constantly spreading misinformation.

 Quoting: MIL MAN



It's 01:15 in Israel now - those reports were from late afternoon/ early evening.

There have been some reports that the power station in Southern Tel Aviv was hit - still looking for more confirmation (I do have one feed, looking for additional)
 Quoting: ClydeX


haaretz has a live blog from what I understand that may yield new findings
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No, these are coded for the time from m time zone, it is accurate to Israeli events in my time.
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My mistake - I just thought of that very thing as you posted - same time zone as I

My apologies for jumping the gun - trying to keep up with too much, and I haven't gotten much at all accomplished in the last couple of days.
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It's 01:15 in Israel now - those reports were from late afternoon/ early evening.

There have been some reports that the power station in Southern Tel Aviv was hit - still looking for more confirmation (I do have one feed, looking for additional)
 Quoting: ClydeX


haaretz has a live blog from what I understand that may yield new findings
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No, these are coded for the time from m time zone, it is accurate to Israeli events in my time.
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My mistake - I just thought of that very thing as you posted - same time zone as I

My apologies for jumping the gun - trying to keep up with too much, and I haven't gotten much at all accomplished in the last couple of days.
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Much going on, very little if any information from the north.

If there is ever a confirmed Tel Aviv hit, the ground troops will go into Gaza, still no confirmation, but the diplomatic arena around Israel would indicate they are willing to up the op for some reason or it could jsut be the 100 missiles fired so far.
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Obama Still Silent as Egypt Backs Hamas

Today, Egypt’s Freedom and Justice Party, the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood – a party formerly headed by current President Mohammed Morsi – announced that Egypt would get involved if Israel continued to kill terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
[link to www.breitbart.com]
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Report: Egyptian army admits terrorists fired rockets from Sinai
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[link to www.haaretz.com]

Over 80 rockets fired at Israel on Wednesday; more than 20 rockets intercepted by Iron Dome System; Israeli cabinet authorizes IDF to expand operations if needed.
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Few more hours until daylight in Israel.

More rumors on Egypt moving tanks and infantry but again that is as verified as Tel Aviv being hit.
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BREAKING: Israel Channel 10 - Israel Defense Forces: In the coming hours Israel will disconnect Internet & all telecommunications of #Gaza.


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