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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Newshunter is psychic...

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11/17/12, 11:49 AM
#Hamas's leader Khaled Meshaal is meeting Erdogan now in Cairo in the presence of Qatari official ,representative of President Mohamed Morsi

Rushdi Abualouf (@Rushdibbc)
11/17/12, 11:50 AM
Senior source in #Hamas told BBC an offer for a ceasefire made by Turkey being studied by the Hamas delegation in #Cairo #Gaza
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


If Israel agrees to a ceasefire right now, she will be seen as the big looser in the arab world, a paper tiger, and all its deterrence is gone.

It should be Hamas loudly crying for a ceasefire.

The result of this opportunity right now should be, that all self esteem and all proudness of any arab around is gone, and they are either dead or sitting on their knees and begging.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Israel is continuing to ready for a ground invasion. They do not appear to be backing down or slowing down. They probably have another 20 or so hours of softening the area with air attacks, then they will send in the D-9's followed by the infantry and tank units...I doubt if the requirements set out by the Israelis for a cease fire will be met. We just don't see the Israelis backing down now, they have spent a lot of time preparing for this exact moment. But then again, it is hard to predict anything, let alone the future!
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11/17/12, 11:49 AM
#Hamas's leader Khaled Meshaal is meeting Erdogan now in Cairo in the presence of Qatari official ,representative of President Mohamed Morsi

Rushdi Abualouf (@Rushdibbc)
11/17/12, 11:50 AM
Senior source in #Hamas told BBC an offer for a ceasefire made by Turkey being studied by the Hamas delegation in #Cairo #Gaza
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


If Israel agrees to a ceasefire right now, she will be seen as the big looser in the arab world, a paper tiger, and all its deterrence is gone.

It should be Hamas loudly crying for a ceasefire.

The result of this opportunity right now should be, that all self esteem and all proudness of any arab around is gone, and they are either dead or sitting on their knees and begging.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Israel is continuing to ready for a ground invasion. They do not appear to be backing down or slowing down. They probably have another 20 or so hours of softening the area with air attacks, then they will send in the D-9's followed by the infantry and tank units...I doubt if the requirements set out by the Israelis for a cease fire will be met. We just don't see the Israelis backing down now, they have spent a lot of time preparing for this exact moment. But then again, it is hard to predict anything, let alone the future!
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If there is one lesson learned from 2006 it is this:

Take the gloves OFF.
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Mali military intervention countdown begins

"Malian Prime Minister Cheick Modibo Diarra told AFP on Thursday (November 15th) that action to retake the country's north would take place "very soon", adding a resolution would be in the UN's hands within a week."

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Mali military intervention countdown begins

"Malian Prime Minister Cheick Modibo Diarra told AFP on Thursday (November 15th) that action to retake the country's north would take place "very soon", adding a resolution would be in the UN's hands within a week."

[link to magharebia.com]
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Here's my Mali thread -

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali

The first significant clash since June happened yesterday in GAO province near the border w/ Niger... MNLA sustained heavy casualties...
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But then again, it is hard to predict anything, let alone the future!
 Quoting: Gerry52


If there is one lesson learned from 2006 it is this:

Take the gloves OFF.
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It is bigger than that. Israel doesn't mobilize 75 thousand troops just to menace Hamas.

This is the starting block for the Iran war.
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I'm not thinking Iron Dome is that successful...
Would you want to live w/ a 33% success rate?

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11/17/12, 1:48 PM
By the #s, @IDFSpokesperson says 300 strikes today, busiest yet. Around 950 total. 710 rockets fired, 470 landed. Iron Dome = 33% success.
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On other newzz:

Mali military intervention countdown begins

"Malian Prime Minister Cheick Modibo Diarra told AFP on Thursday (November 15th) that action to retake the country's north would take place "very soon", adding a resolution would be in the UN's hands within a week."

[link to magharebia.com]
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Here's my Mali thread -

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali

The first significant clash since June happened yesterday in GAO province near the border w/ Niger... MNLA sustained heavy casualties...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Darby, thanks. The "intervention" / war has started.

LOL, I am glad to have you here on this thread. Thank you Darby.
Thanks to MM, too. We saw the writing on the wall long time ago. Now we are there.

Lets move. Fast.

:Hi_2:
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One more thing: Churchill:

Churchill provided a brutally accurate description of Islam as applicable today as it was when written in 1899:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Winston S. Churchill, The River War, First edition, Vol. II (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899), pp. 248-250.
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One more thing: Churchill:

Churchill provided a brutally accurate description of Islam as applicable today as it was when written in 1899:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Winston S. Churchill, The River War, First edition, Vol. II (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899), pp. 248-250.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


You're Welcome...

Have you read the Koran? I've started it a couple of times....

Wow...worth a read...Wow
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Have you read the Koran? I've started it a couple of times....

Wow...worth a read...Wow
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Yes, I did, I read it together with a guy from maroc at the time.

I do not dislike arabs. I dislike extremism.

And what they do in the arab world today is to teach and worship extremism: against women, jews, the west, all non believers.

The arab, who killed here in France in Toulouse the jewish children in the school, had a brother.
This brother said:
"My mother taught me to hate the jews".

You cannot live in peace with people like this, and we can not move on to annother stage of humanity with people like this.

Obviously, it will need a big change in attitude among the arabs. Which will be done, but the price will be high.

Anyways, thank Darby to respond to my thread.

hf
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Have you read the Koran? I've started it a couple of times....

Wow...worth a read...Wow
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This world is a flower bed. Every flower is different. All of the flowers grow towards the sun.

Obviously the blue coloured flower has annother truth, than the red coloured fower.

The truth is in them all.

The problem arises if a flower does not grow towards the sun anymore.
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aTOn and Darby, please don't think your posts aren't noticed or important. They ARE. I don't post much here because I don't have the sources y'all do and I don't want to interrupt. But know this, what you post IS important, NOT OT, and READ by many people. I think most are like me, we need/want the info. We just don't have anything meaningful to add, most of the time.

I appreciate everyone on here. You've given me much to consider and viewpoints I haven't had in years. worship
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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aTOn and Darby, please don't think your posts aren't noticed or important. They ARE. I don't post much here because I don't have the sources y'all do and I don't want to interrupt. But know this, what you post IS important, NOT OT, and READ by many people. I think most are like me, we need/want the info. We just don't have anything meaningful to add, most of the time.

I appreciate everyone on here. You've given me much to consider and viewpoints I haven't had in years. worship
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Totally agree !!!!!
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After, it may be, that some people move on, leave their bodies, and move on to annother stage.

And others will stay.

Here I am in line with ICE.

Some flowers do not grow anymore in certain circumstances. Others do.

And this world is the lowest world, where live is.
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aTOn and Darby, please don't think your posts aren't noticed or important. They ARE. I don't post much here because I don't have the sources y'all do and I don't want to interrupt. But know this, what you post IS important, NOT OT, and READ by many people. I think most are like me, we need/want the info. We just don't have anything meaningful to add, most of the time.

I appreciate everyone on here. You've given me much to consider and viewpoints I haven't had in years. worship
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I didn't know that. I could write some more, but I don't want to disturb this thread with off topic posts. I write one more.

MM might close one eye in regards to managing this thread.
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aTOn and Darby, please don't think your posts aren't noticed or important. They ARE. I don't post much here because I don't have the sources y'all do and I don't want to interrupt. But know this, what you post IS important, NOT OT, and READ by many people. I think most are like me, we need/want the info. We just don't have anything meaningful to add, most of the time.

I appreciate everyone on here. You've given me much to consider and viewpoints I haven't had in years. worship
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I didn't know that. I could write some more, but I don't want to disturb this thread with off topic posts. I write one more.

MM might close one eye in regards to managing this thread.
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Life, death...love, war. It's all tied together, it's all part of each other. Anyway, it's kind of quiet for the moment. When one is faced with destruction, one tends to get philosophical (sp?).
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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On this earth there are flowers growing out of this earth.
That means, there are souls, which are already material, which are born and reborn on this earth. They should find the way towards the sun.

There are others, born from various places, planets, families, loved ones, who did choose to come here.

Why do they come here ?

Because this earth is the way to go, to be more closer to god, more closer to love, more closer to your father.

That is called kingdom of above and kingdom of low, in the ancient times.

Why is it like this ?

Because you cannot aproach god if you are already one. You need to become yourself, grow, become a strong independant soul. Then you can aproach and see him.

And believe me, the father is watching over this earth closely, he is here, and what is happening and will happen is the way of the father.

It is said to become like a child to go through this door, this gate.
To become like a child means, to become a child to god, is to accept him as your father, the father who loves you, who created you, and who waits for you to come home.

Lets all get our act together, and go home. Finally go home !
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Mali military intervention countdown begins

"Malian Prime Minister Cheick Modibo Diarra told AFP on Thursday (November 15th) that action to retake the country's north would take place "very soon", adding a resolution would be in the UN's hands within a week."

[link to magharebia.com]
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Here's my Mali thread -

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali

The first significant clash since June happened yesterday in GAO province near the border w/ Niger... MNLA sustained heavy casualties...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Darby, thanks. The "intervention" / war has started.

LOL, I am glad to have you here on this thread. Thank you Darby.
Thanks to MM, too. We saw the writing on the wall long time ago. Now we are there.

Lets move. Fast.

:Hi_2:
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


hf
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I love and appreciate ALL input on this thread, Aton, Darby, thumbs up as well as any insight or input from all others!

Running around today, but rumors of cease fire I hope are just rumors.

Israel needs this one, she needs to clean the Gaza Strip, then the north. Hate speech is prevailing today from the Arab nations.

This is the start of many things.
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I love and appreciate ALL input on this thread, Aton, Darby, thumbs up as well as any insight or input from all others!

Running around today, but rumors of cease fire I hope are just rumors.

Israel needs this one, she needs to clean the Gaza Strip, then the north. Hate speech is prevailing today from the Arab nations.

This is the start of many things.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


everything needs sorting out.

only one way, unfortunately.

may the best team win!
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I am not a preacher, neither a religious tard.

But if you love your father and you choose to be his child, your live changes, and he will help you all along in this hellride.

On the sun, there are souls living. They live in harmony, in love, in multi dimensions. All we have as boundaries, they have not.

They are being given to look unto this earth. And what they see sadden them, if not to say shock them.

Planets are souls. Plants talk to each other. Animals have a mind. Even stones are alive. There is nothing dead in this universe, but us.

Why ?

Life is being a son of your father. Love. And being. And to do.

The rest is death.

Now take the pill, the red or the blue ?
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On this earth there are flowers growing out of this earth.
That means, there are souls, which are already material, which are born and reborn on this earth. They should find the way towards the sun.

There are others, born from various places, planets, families, loved ones, who did choose to come here.

Why do they come here ?

Because this earth is the way to go, to be more closer to god, more closer to love, more closer to your father.

That is called kingdom of above and kingdom of low, in the ancient times.

Why is it like this ?

Because you cannot aproach god if you are already one. You need to become yourself, grow, become a strong independant soul. Then you can aproach and see him.

And believe me, the father is watching over this earth closely, he is here, and what is happening and will happen is the way of the father.

It is said to become like a child to go through this door, this gate.
To become like a child means, to become a child to god, is to accept him as your father, the father who loves you, who created you, and who waits for you to come home.

Lets all get our act together, and go home. Finally go home !
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Sorry MM, but I just have to comment on this and then, I'll go back to lurking.

I grew up hearing my dad's stories from the Korean police action and other relative's stories from WWII. Most of my childhood was during the Vietnam War and then, I married a Marine. That fall, the embassy in Iran was taken. Too many bad stories and lot's of FEAR from that time to tell. After that, it was quiet for a time.

A few years later, my oldest son was born and the attack on the Marine barracks happened. I searched the names for friends as I took care of my 2 small babies. After a divorce and some years later, I married an Air Force man. We were overseas when Desert Storm/Shield happened.

A few more years go by and he's just returned from Saudi and the towers blew up. He lived in that building, so did other friends. He got home just before it happened.

All these years, fear has followed me around. Until now. I have no fear. I won't watch what is happening in the ME, I've seen it before. One day soon, it'll be here and then, I'll have to see it. I'm ready. Whatever happens, I know I'm in my Father's hands and that is the ONLY place I want/need to be. aTOn, I hear what you're saying and I agree.hugs
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I love and appreciate ALL input on this thread, Aton, Darby, thumbs up as well as any insight or input from all others!

Running around today, but rumors of cease fire I hope are just rumors.

Israel needs this one, she needs to clean the Gaza Strip, then the north. Hate speech is prevailing today from the Arab nations.

This is the start of many things.
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bump
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On this earth there are flowers growing out of this earth.
That means, there are souls, which are already material, which are born and reborn on this earth. They should find the way towards the sun.

There are others, born from various places, planets, families, loved ones, who did choose to come here.

Why do they come here ?

Because this earth is the way to go, to be more closer to god, more closer to love, more closer to your father.

That is called kingdom of above and kingdom of low, in the ancient times.

Why is it like this ?

Because you cannot aproach god if you are already one. You need to become yourself, grow, become a strong independant soul. Then you can aproach and see him.

And believe me, the father is watching over this earth closely, he is here, and what is happening and will happen is the way of the father.

It is said to become like a child to go through this door, this gate.
To become like a child means, to become a child to god, is to accept him as your father, the father who loves you, who created you, and who waits for you to come home.

Lets all get our act together, and go home. Finally go home !
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Sorry MM, but I just have to comment on this and then, I'll go back to lurking.

I grew up hearing my dad's stories from the Korean police action and other relative's stories from WWII. Most of my childhood was during the Vietnam War and then, I married a Marine. That fall, the embassy in Iran was taken. Too many bad stories and lot's of FEAR from that time to tell. After that, it was quiet for a time.

A few years later, my oldest son was born and the attack on the Marine barracks happened. I searched the names for friends as I took care of my 2 small babies. After a divorce and some years later, I married an Air Force man. We were overseas when Desert Storm/Shield happened.

A few more years go by and he's just returned from Saudi and the towers blew up. He lived in that building, so did other friends. He got home just before it happened.

All these years, fear has followed me around. Until now. I have no fear. I won't watch what is happening in the ME, I've seen it before. One day soon, it'll be here and then, I'll have to see it. I'm ready. Whatever happens, I know I'm in my Father's hands and that is the ONLY place I want/need to be. aTOn, I hear what you're saying and I agree.hugs
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Please feel free to comment, you are a regular!
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Re: WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
All these years, fear has followed me around. Until now. I have no fear. I won't watch what is happening in the ME, I've seen it before. One day soon, it'll be here and then, I'll have to see it. I'm ready. Whatever happens, I know I'm in my Father's hands and that is the ONLY place I want/need to be. aTOn, I hear what you're saying and I agree.hugs
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After all, when you leave this earth, you'll get around, too ?

It is all in your fathers hands, and it is good the way it is here.

Faith and no worry. Calm. Faith. Love.
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Mil Man, thanks.

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Mil Man, thanks.

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after all, entre mecs, I like to change the thanks: LOL


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11/17/2012 04:45 PM
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Thanks, guys. MM, I'm good. I've been reminded recently that I couldn't shut up if you taped my mouth! I really don't post much because y'all cover everything well enough. I just hate to see when others think their info isn't important enough. I read ALL the posts and try to put it all together. Just 'cause something is happening in a place other than the ME, doesn't matter, it's just as important. I think we'll all see soon, it IS all connected.

I'm a toddler on the computer, you guys are WAY better at finding things and I really count on you. If I see one of you has a different thread, I read that too. I value your opinions and insight.

It's ALL good and I'm here! I just don't want to interrupt the flow of info. Sometimes, it's purely selfish!!LOL

aTOn, I like the way your mind works! Darby, thanks for the info on Mali and other places. I honestly had forgotten alot of it. When I homeschooled my kids, there were stories about many of the places you post about. They were toned down for kids, but with other newsletters we got, I was able to fill in the blanks. I hope when "my time" comes, I'll be as strong as they were.

Ok, I've rambled enough!
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton


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