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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Second Israeli Killed Tuesday in Eshkol

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Cleared for publication: An Israeli civilian was killed by a mortar round in the Eshkol Regional Council Tuesday.
Another civilian was seriously injured in the incident and 15 soldiers were lightly wounded. They were evacuated to Soroka Hospital in Beersheba.
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"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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This thread is far better that the pinned soap opera.

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I could be way off here, but I really think the real war is on this time.

Do you all remember having an enough is enough moment? I mean the kind when someone/something just got on your very last nerve? If I were in Israel, this would be my moment. They've taken more abuse than any other country for the entire time and longer as a people. I think a trigger happened somewhere and they've reached the end of their patience.

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I could be way off here, but I really think the real war is on this time.

Do you all remember having an enough is enough moment? I mean the kind when someone/something just got on your very last nerve? If I were in Israel, this would be my moment. They've taken more abuse than any other country for the entire time and longer as a people. I think a trigger happened somewhere and they've reached the end of their patience.

Just my take.
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I reached that point some years ago myself!

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Member of Hamas Reports Ceasefire Won't Happen Tonight


A member of the Hamas political bureau, Izat A - Rishq, issued a statement to his Twitter account, saying, "As of now, a cease-fire agreement has not been reached, and it will not happen tonight."
"All options are open, and our people and the resistance are ready for all possibilities" added a - Rishq.

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Speaking with Hilary Clinton !
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For Israel, a truce is the worst of all worlds: Tied hands, Hamas unbowed

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This was stated to Hillary Clinton . . . Maybe there will be some hardball going on.
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The only winners right now in this Hamas 2012 lovefest is Iran and Syria. The media has avoided Syrian issues like the plague. Assad can do whatever he wants right now. For Iran, she is able to hide undercover and avoid any peep about her nuclear progress. This is all part of the plan of Iran to buy time and then:


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MM, Israel just cannot accept this truce. If they do, they'll tie their own hands forever. We know their enemies will NOT abide by the agreement, but the world will DEMAND that Israel do so. If they accept this time, I'm afraid, it'll be Irael's downfall. The world ALWAYS demands more from Israel.
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MM, Israel just cannot accept this truce. If they do, they'll tie their own hands forever. We know their enemies will NOT abide by the agreement, but the world will DEMAND that Israel do so. If they accept this time, I'm afraid, it'll be Irael's downfall. The world ALWAYS demands more from Israel.
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That DEBKA article is scathing. Everythign was in place for a quick ass-kicken of Hamas if Israel would have jumped to it. Right now, Bibi and his government could save face if they continue on and send troops into various areas of Gaza to prover their point. Yes, the only loser right now is Israel as Israel is the one whom has been targeted and the offending party is getting away with it. Yes, there are casualties in Gaza, but far fewer than what Assad is committing daily or the thugs against him.
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It's too bad most of the WWII survivors are gone. More people need to know what war is before they spout off about casualties. All of the new weapons make war too sanitary and people forget that innocent people DIE in war, no matter how careful the militaries are. It's not a freaking video game!!

I'm reading Doorbert's thread, and I can't get over the comments. I must be getting old, because I can almost tell how old the poster's are. They don't remember the Gulf War, 1 or 2. I don't think they even remember 911. What they don't seem to realize is, it will spread. We will see it here, too. I wonder how exciting it will be to the"kids" then.

I'm a Christian, but not a religioustard. I've studied prophecy for a long time, but I'm not an expert. I'm not positive yet, but I have a feeling things are lining up that way. If it is time, G-d will protect Israel, but not before a lot of pain and suffering comes her way. All my life, I was taught to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Now, more than ever, I am.
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It's too bad most of the WWII survivors are gone. More people need to know what war is before they spout off about casualties. All of the new weapons make war too sanitary and people forget that innocent people DIE in war, no matter how careful the militaries are. It's not a freaking video game!!

I'm reading Doorbert's thread, and I can't get over the comments. I must be getting old, because I can almost tell how old the poster's are. They don't remember the Gulf War, 1 or 2. I don't think they even remember 911. What they don't seem to realize is, it will spread. We will see it here, too. I wonder how exciting it will be to the"kids" then.

I'm a Christian, but not a religioustard. I've studied prophecy for a long time, but I'm not an expert. I'm not positive yet, but I have a feeling things are lining up that way. If it is time, G-d will protect Israel, but not before a lot of pain and suffering comes her way. All my life, I was taught to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Now, more than ever, I am.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Isaiah 17 is ripe for Damascus anytime. Further, prophecy (cannot find where this second) indicates that once Israel is re-born, that generation will witness the end-time events start, that generation is dying off right now, so yes, prophecy indicates that all-hell will blow-up in the coming months if not much much sooner!
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It's too bad most of the WWII survivors are gone. More people need to know what war is before they spout off about casualties. All of the new weapons make war too sanitary and people forget that innocent people DIE in war, no matter how careful the militaries are. It's not a freaking video game!!

I'm reading Doorbert's thread, and I can't get over the comments. I must be getting old, because I can almost tell how old the poster's are. They don't remember the Gulf War, 1 or 2. I don't think they even remember 911. What they don't seem to realize is, it will spread. We will see it here, too. I wonder how exciting it will be to the"kids" then.

I'm a Christian, but not a religioustard. I've studied prophecy for a long time, but I'm not an expert. I'm not positive yet, but I have a feeling things are lining up that way. If it is time, G-d will protect Israel, but not before a lot of pain and suffering comes her way. All my life, I was taught to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Now, more than ever, I am.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Isaiah 17 is ripe for Damascus anytime. Further, prophecy (cannot find where this second) indicates that once Israel is re-born, that generation will witness the end-time events start, that generation is dying off right now, so yes, prophecy indicates that all-hell will blow-up in the coming months if not much much sooner!
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I'm paraphrasing, but one verse also says to pray that your flight not be in the winter. It keeps coming up in my mind. Alot of us started looking at the prophecies when Desert Shield started. Maybe that's why my hair turned white at 30!?! All we can do is watch, wait, and pray.
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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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Well said MM. Now if only we had politicians that had the guts to say it publicly and repediatly. We have leaders all around us, in our daily lives, the military, policr, fire, etc, within ourselves, within ourareas, shame thing is none of them make it to politics, or atleast are driven out by the party before making enough waves and allies to reach the upper levels.

IMHO Bibi will be judged by the almighty for his decisions in the coming hours. A truce, deal,cessation of hostilities or a cease fire right now makes a mockery of israeli military establishment and their political leadership. They cannot allow such weakness to be shown, they cannot let their people down. Another missle will lainch, it will be written off, then another, a harsh warning, then a 3rd missle and we will be here again. Israels economy will be depleted. Its people worn down from call ups and stand downs. They will lose faith in their leaders.

The single, only, benefactor of such a deal would be the 0enemies of israel. Specifically Iran. Egypt as well since they are not yet prepared to launch their recapture of pride lost in the last egypt israeli war for another 18 months or so.

For goodness sake what are you waiting for bibi, do what u were elected by your people to do. Return peace and security to a nation thats never lived without an enemy at its gate. With great power comes greater responsability. This is what he was put on earth for. This moment.

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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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Missed you all, long nitbumpe ahead
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Hey Mil Man, whose side are u on? The Israelis or the Palestinians? Please pick only one, not both.
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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Meeting over between #SecState and Netanyahu almost 2am in Israel and U.S. are on same page this time tomorrow Clinton sees Abbas and Morsi

Green light given...

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Russia begins to evacuate their citizens from the Gaza Strip
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It's too bad most of the WWII survivors are gone. More people need to know what war is before they spout off about casualties. All of the new weapons make war too sanitary and people forget that innocent people DIE in war, no matter how careful the militaries are. It's not a freaking video game!!

I'm reading Doorbert's thread, and I can't get over the comments. I must be getting old, because I can almost tell how old the poster's are. They don't remember the Gulf War, 1 or 2. I don't think they even remember 911. What they don't seem to realize is, it will spread. We will see it here, too. I wonder how exciting it will be to the"kids" then.

I'm a Christian, but not a religioustard. I've studied prophecy for a long time, but I'm not an expert. I'm not positive yet, but I have a feeling things are lining up that way. If it is time, G-d will protect Israel, but not before a lot of pain and suffering comes her way. All my life, I was taught to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Now, more than ever, I am.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Isaiah 17 is ripe for Damascus anytime. Further, prophecy (cannot find where this second) indicates that once Israel is re-born, that generation will witness the end-time events start, that generation is dying off right now, so yes, prophecy indicates that all-hell will blow-up in the coming months if not much much sooner!
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I'm paraphrasing, but one verse also says to pray that your flight not be in the winter. It keeps coming up in my mind. Alot of us started looking at the prophecies when Desert Shield started. Maybe that's why my hair turned white at 30!?! All we can do is watch, wait, and pray.
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I study prophecy a lot, and have for quite some time, and that particular reference (winter) has always caught my attention.

Why was there no other season referenced, for instance the dangers of traveling in the summer heat?

I believe there is definite possibility of a reference that either a specific event or series of events would take place at some point around (A) winter, and He was expressing His concern for those who were forced to flee during the winter months. Not that the winter months time frame would encompass an entire event or series of events, nor that everyone would be forced to flee during that time frame, however, this would say that at least some would be forced to flee during winter.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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