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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Nuclear winter?
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Pgaah
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
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Pool

I love your reflection on things, it is truly unique, and refreshing!

hf
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
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Pool

I love your reflection on things, it is truly unique, and refreshing!

hf
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Shucks, I thought everyone who supported Christianity hated me.

LoLx
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Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, speaking with CNN correspondent Anderson Cooper, says Israel is “trying to reach a resolution to this conflict” that includes an end to rocket fire on Israel and that creates a “new situation” in which arms from Iran are no longer smuggled into Gaza.

Asked whether there is a military solution to the conflict, Oren responds that the solution is ultimately for Hamas to accept Israel as a “permanent, legitimate” presence in the Middle East. He also said that Israel was willing to sit down with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas “tonight” to resume negotiations for peace.

Regarding the suggestion that Hamas will be strengthened by its confrontation with Israel, Oren answers that Hamas has suffered heavy blows, and that Israel has already carried out 10 times as many strikes against the terrorist infrastructure in Gaza as it did four years ago, in Operation Cast Lead.

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]

I liked the first two paragraphs very well, but they have their talking point in he third for a cease fire.
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
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Pool

I love your reflection on things, it is truly unique, and refreshing!

hf
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Shucks, I thought everyone who supported Christianity hated me.

LoLx
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Sorry to disappoint you!

cheers
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Sorry to disappoint you!

cheers
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
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Pool

I love your reflection on things, it is truly unique, and refreshing!

hf
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Shucks, I thought everyone who supported Christianity hated me.

LoLx
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Pool, on thing I learned, the hard way, a long time ago. Not everyone that claims to be a Christian, really is. They're just hypocritical pew warmers. They'll hate anything their leaders tell them to hate. Gee, wonder who that sounds like!?!

It's up to each individual to decide for themselves what they choose to believe in. Some take the whole "preach to world" thing too far.

I don't hate you, either.hugs
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AC - if you visit the thread enough, you would see that I side with Israel, should be no surprise, but at the same time, I hold no ill-will towards the common palestinian. They deserve their own land, but not through terror against Israel. Jordan should have been a Palestinian state or one of the other concerned kingdoms could carve out a chunk for them. Instead they are a pawn of the persians and arab brethen.
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clappa bump
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Missed you all, long nitbumpe ahead
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What do you thin will happen?
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AH, MM

Short answer, HELL for HAMAS, then IRAN

This in IMHO is more IRAN, then anyone else…

Israel can not back down

hugs, Lou
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
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cool2
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
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I don't hate you, either.hugs
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Thanks, Texan, brought the heavy out of my heart.
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clappa bump
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Missed you all, long nitbumpe ahead
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What do you thin will happen?
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AH, MM

Short answer, HELL for HAMAS, then IRAN

This in IMHO is more IRAN, then anyone else…

Israel can not back down

hugs, Lou
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Think that is the way it ought to be at least?
snogging
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I don't hate you, either.hugs
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Thanks, Texan, brought the heavy out of my heart.
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Anytime. That's what I like about this forum. I have no idea what your beliefs are and it doesn't matter. I've read your posts for a long time and I find them interesting. We can take people differently here than in the real world. It's so much easier to agree to disagree here if you have to. You post what you want to say with grace, even when you think you'll get beat up over it. I'd say that goes a long way for me.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Sorry to disappoint you!

cheers
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'Disappoint' is a word I never use. wine
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the road to God has many turns and paths
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The media covers it like another Christmas problem, like long lines at the checkout.
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Agreed - it seems they're satisfied with programming that exists comfortably as a combination between soap-operas and reality shows.

I honesty believe they are both complicit in the dumbing down of society as a whole, as well as scared to death of what would actually happen should they report actual (factual) news to these same masses.

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Many worrying signs....

Gulf States are in meetings to find a safe way to deliver subsidized gas to Jordan...Egypt has agreed to fully honor it's contract with Jordan (so the gas price issue which led to protests has been resolved) I presume they are planning for disruptions in the Egyptian pipeline in the Sinai....

If interested -

Thread: Jordan Protests - Game Changer - Moslem Brotherhood TRYING TO SAVE Jordan's King? (Page 5)

Ansar al Sharia just killed Benghazi's police chief and there are reports of clashes in the streets of Benghazi...

Thread: Benghazi Security Chief Assassinated - Petraeus's Deal w/ Libyan Militants Didn't Last. Are More CIA Executions Planned? (Page 2)

Also, Tunisia just released 17 Ansar al Sharia members arrested in Embassy attacks..I'm presuming its attacks on US embassy in Tunisia & Tunisia's version of Ansar al Sharia...

Then then a few weird pieces of propaganda out there...

George Galloway tweeted that Israel has surrounded the al aqsa mosque. I know the man has issues, but why stir things up? His drivel has hundreds of re-tweets (Middle East Rumor mill strikes again)..

Hamas Harry posted a weird (and really short) disinformation piece about Israeli soldiers killed & injured. Were his handlers trying to get him to report a fake ground assault on Gaza - and they only got 14 seconds from him before they had to rough him up? (no longer camera ready). Why did they post the 14 seconds?

Here's a link - [link to www.ustream.tv]

Actually, I just listened to his propaganda piece for a 2nd time - I think he was suggesting that the Palestinians have invaded Israel...

What is the goal of the disinformation?
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Israel prepared to escalate Gaza attacks, Netanyahu says, after Clinton meeting - @ AJELive
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Israel prepared to escalate Gaza attacks, Netanyahu says, after Clinton meeting - @ AJELive
 Quoting: Steve5728


Bad voodoo is playing a role in this rest assured!
 Quoting: jw2305


Any new info. Jw???
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was about to hit the hay, now I come in here and see these last two...so much for that....never sleeping again tounge
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was about to hit the hay, now I come in here and see these last two...so much for that....never sleeping again tounge
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Does the Gaza crisis make Israeli strikes on Iran more likely?

As IDF continue strikes meant to weaken Hamas’s rocket-launching capabilities, more analysts are starting to wonder about the country that supplies many of those longer-range rockets: Iran... Now, some observers say that the Israel-Gaza fighting ... could make strikes on Iran more likely.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Does the Gaza crisis make Israeli strikes on Iran more likely?

As IDF continue strikes meant to weaken Hamas’s rocket-launching capabilities, more analysts are starting to wonder about the country that supplies many of those longer-range rockets: Iran... Now, some observers say that the Israel-Gaza fighting ... could make strikes on Iran more likely.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


my thinking is this...if they are intending on hitting Iran....then by this current op they are creating a missile buffer zone to at least protect Tel Aviv and Jerusalem in the event a strike is ordered on Iran and there is fear of retaliation. The effort is to minimize the retaliation and protect the most important parts of the country I would think.
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I better stay awake also..what time is it in Israel? Bout 6:30 AM our time?
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OT (Sort of)...

I usually don't watch CNN but tonight....

There was Arab gentleman (professor) talking about Hamas on Anderson Cooper...

He was brutal but probably accurate...They sounded like mobsters...total thugs...

His argument was that PNA needs to be strengthened, but is that crew much better?
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Hey MM...see this thread? Elite bugging out to denver 11/22

I always perk up for info on these threads...just saying!
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Does the Gaza crisis make Israeli strikes on Iran more likely?

As IDF continue strikes meant to weaken Hamas’s rocket-launching capabilities, more analysts are starting to wonder about the country that supplies many of those longer-range rockets: Iran... Now, some observers say that the Israel-Gaza fighting ... could make strikes on Iran more likely.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I think one of the many scenarios the Israelis have on the table is to knock down any potential threat around their borders, so that any retaliatory movement resulting from a strike on Iran will be visible to observe/ prepare for/ or preempt.

This equates to clearing the property surrounding your house so that you have a clear view of anything that moves between your home and the tree line.
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Israel prepared to escalate Gaza attacks, Netanyahu says, after Clinton meeting - @ AJELive
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Bad voodoo is playing a role in this rest assured!
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Yes wmds are a worry.
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Israel prepared to escalate Gaza attacks, Netanyahu says, after Clinton meeting - @ AJELive
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Bad voodoo is playing a role in this rest assured!
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Any new info. Jw???
 Quoting: Steve5728


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Does the Gaza crisis make Israeli strikes on Iran more likely?

As IDF continue strikes meant to weaken Hamas’s rocket-launching capabilities, more analysts are starting to wonder about the country that supplies many of those longer-range rockets: Iran... Now, some observers say that the Israel-Gaza fighting ... could make strikes on Iran more likely.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I think one of the many scenarios the Israelis have on the table is to knock down any potential threat around their borders, so that any retaliatory movement resulting from a strike on Iran will be visible to observe/ prepare for/ or preempt.

This equates to clearing the property surrounding your house so that you have a clear view of anything that moves between your home and the tree line.
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I am easy tonight, staying away from the local street corners though, yes I agree with you all. First somewhere in the thick of things one can gain useful intelligence data equal to alphabet agencies by reading some GLP threads, though lacking the taps and satellites put us at a disadvantage. However we can gain insight like who is bugging out to Denver.
Next, Israel is prepping for the day of. By cleaning up the neighborhood around Gaza, Israel is gaining some safe space and limiting the problems of Gaza when the Hezbollah attack happens. Israel at least will have Gaza either under marshal law if she takes back the strip under her authority or at least keep the missiles to a low roar . There had been talk of moving the northerner in a war to the middle of the country, that is more likely if the southern missiles cannot reach that location. Next, limiting Terror is good no matter what, but it is all for an eye on the ultimate game, defeating Iran at real chess. Israel is currently on a path to take out not just pawns, but a rook and bishop. That helps when the queen will be at play with the Hezbollah.
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Does the Gaza crisis make Israeli strikes on Iran more likely?

As IDF continue strikes meant to weaken Hamas’s rocket-launching capabilities, more analysts are starting to wonder about the country that supplies many of those longer-range rockets: Iran... Now, some observers say that the Israel-Gaza fighting ... could make strikes on Iran more likely.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I think one of the many scenarios the Israelis have on the table is to knock down any potential threat around their borders, so that any retaliatory movement resulting from a strike on Iran will be visible to observe/ prepare for/ or preempt.

This equates to clearing the property surrounding your house so that you have a clear view of anything that moves between your home and the tree line.
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I am easy tonight, staying away from the local street corners though, yes I agree with you all. First somewhere in the thick of things one can gain useful intelligence data equal to alphabet agencies by reading some GLP threads, though lacking the taps and satellites put us at a disadvantage. However we can gain insight like who is bugging out to Denver.
Next, Israel is prepping for the day of. By cleaning up the neighborhood around Gaza, Israel is gaining some safe space and limiting the problems of Gaza when the Hezbollah attack happens. Israel at least will have Gaza either under marshal law if she takes back the strip under her authority or at least keep the missiles to a low roar . There had been talk of moving the northerner in a war to the middle of the country, that is more likely if the southern missiles cannot reach that location. Next, limiting Terror is good no matter what, but it is all for an eye on the ultimate game, defeating Iran at real chess. Israel is currently on a path to take out not just pawns, but a rook and bishop. That helps when the queen will be at play with the Hezbollah.
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