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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Moshe Ya'alon hints that Barak acted during the operation on the basis of foreign considerations. "There are people without portfolio and high intelligence that did not weigh political considerations but what is best for the people of Israel, and not how it will look from the outside...Unfortunately there are people around the table who weigh political considerations and subjugate national considerations to political considerations, and this is a grave error."

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does his sudden retirement from political life have anything to do with this?
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Moshe Ya'alon hints that Barak acted during the operation on the basis of foreign considerations. "There are people without portfolio and high intelligence that did not weigh political considerations but what is best for the people of Israel, and not how it will look from the outside...Unfortunately there are people around the table who weigh political considerations and subjugate national considerations to political considerations, and this is a grave error."

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does his sudden retirement from political life have anything to do with this?
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Good question zilla. This was certainly an unexpected development and coming so close in time to the Gaza operation and the fluidity of events in the ME - it raises some concerns for sure.
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Moshe Ya'alon hints that Barak acted during the operation on the basis of foreign considerations. "There are people without portfolio and high intelligence that did not weigh political considerations but what is best for the people of Israel, and not how it will look from the outside...Unfortunately there are people around the table who weigh political considerations and subjugate national considerations to political considerations, and this is a grave error."

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 Quoting: tarfonwxx


does his sudden retirement from political life have anything to do with this?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Good question zilla. This was certainly an unexpected development and coming so close in time to the Gaza operation and the fluidity of events in the ME - it raises some concerns for sure.
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starting to think he was forced out, there is certainly more to this.
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Moshe Ya'alon hints that Barak acted during the operation on the basis of foreign considerations. "There are people without portfolio and high intelligence that did not weigh political considerations but what is best for the people of Israel, and not how it will look from the outside...Unfortunately there are people around the table who weigh political considerations and subjugate national considerations to political considerations, and this is a grave error."

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 Quoting: tarfonwxx


does his sudden retirement from political life have anything to do with this?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Good question zilla. This was certainly an unexpected development and coming so close in time to the Gaza operation and the fluidity of events in the ME - it raises some concerns for sure.
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starting to think he was forced out, there is certainly more to this.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Agreed -

Any word on who his replacement may be?
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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does his sudden retirement from political life have anything to do with this?
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Good question zilla. This was certainly an unexpected development and coming so close in time to the Gaza operation and the fluidity of events in the ME - it raises some concerns for sure.
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starting to think he was forced out, there is certainly more to this.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Agreed -

Any word on who his replacement may be?
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praying, praying, praying for Moshe Ya'alon

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Moshe Ya'alon hints that Barak acted during the operation on the basis of foreign considerations. "There are people without portfolio and high intelligence that did not weigh political considerations but what is best for the people of Israel, and not how it will look from the outside...Unfortunately there are people around the table who weigh political considerations and subjugate national considerations to political considerations, and this is a grave error."

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does his sudden retirement from political life have anything to do with this?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Good question zilla. This was certainly an unexpected development and coming so close in time to the Gaza operation and the fluidity of events in the ME - it raises some concerns for sure.
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starting to think he was forced out, there is certainly more to this.
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could be he realized bibi was going to drop him as defense minister after bibi realized that barak had turned into a pacifist who put all his faith in us-backed iron dome systems from north to south, and barak wanted to quit when he was on top, esp after he may not even earn any seats in the knesset thru his new party, atzmaaut. yet another fishy outcome of the op pillar of cloud, along with morsi's power grab the day after and craziness going down now in cairo
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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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WMD release in Saudi Arabia?


My thoughts, where do these new virus ALWAYS start from? Asia. But this one starts in Saudi Arabia. WMD was released, I believe, as a warning to Saudi Arabia????


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A new coronavirus, similar in nature to SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome), has infected six and resulted in two deaths in the Middle East, various media outlets have reported this weekend.

According to BBC News, the number of reported cases, as well as the number of fatalities linked with the respiratory ailment, doubled on Friday, as a second person was reported killed and three additional infections had been reported by the World Health Organization (WHO).

Both fatalities occurred in Saudi Arabia, and reports of the virus had been limited to that country and Qatar thus far, though one man had been transported to the UK for treatment, they added.

The WHO initially issued a global warning about the disease is September, cautioning that a Qatar man who had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia had become infected with a virus that had previously never been detected in humans, where a second man had died from the same disease, Kate Kelland of Reuters reported on Friday.

The new disease “shares some of the symptoms of SARS,” a coronavirus that surfaced in China in 2002, killing approximately 10% of the 8,000 people who contracted it worldwide, Kelland added. Among those symptoms are coughing, difficulty breathing, and high fever.


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For the Israeli politic followers - What is your take on these guys? From what I understand a couple of them are from the more hawkish side of Likud.

RT @haaretzcom: Initial results of #Likud primaries show top five are Gideon Sa'ar, Gilad Erdan, Silvan Shalom, Yisrael Katz and Danny Danon

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Kinda under the radar today. The BIG news is that some smart people took out the radar base in Syria that watched the Israeli Airforce. This is important cause it blinds much of Syrias ability to know when Israel si launching its planes. It too hampers Syrias military abilities against Jordan and Israel. The battle field is being leveled where it can be.
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Kinda under the radar today. The BIG news is that some smart people took out the radar base in Syria that watched the Israeli Airforce. This is important cause it blinds much of Syrias ability to know when Israel si launching its planes. It too hampers Syrias military abilities against Jordan and Israel. The battle field is being leveled where it can be.
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Those were Russian radars manned (I bet) by Russians..... Which missile would you use to down an Israel F15? S400 SAM. Now I'm not sure, but I would guess that the latest and greatest S400s are being "tested" at the very site. Which means, if I'm correct, a lot of dead Russians.

In looking up the numbers of Israel aircraft I found something interesting in the Wiki article: Quote:

2006 Lebanon War
The IAF played a critical role in the 2006 Lebanon War. IAF strikes – mainly, though not exclusively, in southern Lebanon – were aimed at stopping rocket launches by Hezbollah's militia targeting Israeli towns. The IAF flew more than 12,000 combat missions during this war. The most notable, taking place during the second day of the war, resulted in the IAF destroying 59 Iranian-supplied medium- and long-range missile launchers in just 34 minutes.[8] Widespread condemnation followed the July 30 IAF airstrike on a building suspected to be a militant hideout near the village of Qana, in which 28 civilians were killed. Hezbollah shot down an IAF CH-53 Yas'ur helicopter on the last day of the war, killing five crew members.[9][10] Israeli aircraft also shot down three of Hezbollah's Iranian-made[11] aerial drones during the conflict

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Hmmm, who would have guessed the Iranians made drones in 2006?!
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Kinda under the radar today. The BIG news is that some smart people took out the radar base in Syria that watched the Israeli Airforce. This is important cause it blinds much of Syrias ability to know when Israel si launching its planes. It too hampers Syrias military abilities against Jordan and Israel. The battle field is being leveled where it can be.
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Second thought, what do you do, just walk up and blow one of these installations up? I wonder if an Israel or ?? aircraft did a bombing run or two on it. From the sounds of it, not a lot was left to put back together.

If that was the case, an interesting way to test your defenses against the Russians made equiment. LOL... I wonder if there are many pissed off Russians tonight - well at least they have vodka
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Kinda under the radar today. The BIG news is that some smart people took out the radar base in Syria that watched the Israeli Airforce. This is important cause it blinds much of Syrias ability to know when Israel si launching its planes. It too hampers Syrias military abilities against Jordan and Israel. The battle field is being leveled where it can be.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Second thought, what do you do, just walk up and blow one of these installations up? I wonder if an Israel or ?? aircraft did a bombing run or two on it. From the sounds of it, not a lot was left to put back together.

If that was the case, an interesting way to test your defenses against the Russians made equiment. LOL... I wonder if there are many pissed off Russians tonight - well at least they have vodka
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I say whoever did it good on them..sucks for the russians....HA HA HA
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I read the debka report.

Anyone knowing or have information that american marines are gonna land in the Sinai desert to "take out smuggling roads".

Really, people, are US marines landing there next week ?
Landing where ?
Doing what ?
Fighting smuggler on egypt territory ?
Really ?
Do they know that hard core islamist elements are there in the mountains, egyptian troops tried to take them out a couple of years ago, a truce (LOL) an understanding was the outcome.

I do not believe one fucking word of it.
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I agree 100%.
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Marines got better things to do. All they do is get one of those ground thumpers they use for looking for oil.

1. Find tunnels
2. Drop big bomb.
3. Check for new tunnel
4. Marines stay home and eat turkey.
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Kinda under the radar today. The BIG news is that some smart people took out the radar base in Syria that watched the Israeli Airforce. This is important cause it blinds much of Syrias ability to know when Israel si launching its planes. It too hampers Syrias military abilities against Jordan and Israel. The battle field is being leveled where it can be.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Second thought, what do you do, just walk up and blow one of these installations up? I wonder if an Israel or ?? aircraft did a bombing run or two on it. From the sounds of it, not a lot was left to put back together.

If that was the case, an interesting way to test your defenses against the Russians made equiment. LOL... I wonder if there are many pissed off Russians tonight - well at least they have vodka
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I say whoever did it good on them..sucks for the russians....HA HA HA
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Maybe they put baby nipples on those bottles of Vodka?
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I been hearing lots of jets flying off (I live near an American airbase aswell as a UK airbase)... cannot see them, as it's raining and overcast

so.... looks lie something is 'brewing' ... I will be watching the stockmarkets aswell as if they start falling, all hell may break loose very shortly
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Barak leaves for a 5-day trip to the US today
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If you liked Iron Dome,

you will like David's Sling

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Graph suggests Iran working on bomb
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um..DUH. Any rational person knows what Iran has been up to, only absolute and utter morons don't see it for what it is or chose to completely ignore it. When it blows up in everyone's faces...and it will the way things are going those same dopes are going to be asking how no one saw it coming
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um..DUH. Any rational person knows what Iran has been up to, only absolute and utter morons don't see it for what it is or chose to completely ignore it. When it blows up in everyone's faces...and it will the way things are going those same dopes are going to be asking how no one saw it coming
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
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I will.
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Graph suggests Iran working on bomb
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um..DUH. Any rational person knows what Iran has been up to, only absolute and utter morons don't see it for what it is or chose to completely ignore it. When it blows up in everyone's faces...and it will the way things are going those same dopes are going to be asking how no one saw it coming
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
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More than enough reason for Israel to not hold back anymore against anyone.
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um..DUH. Any rational person knows what Iran has been up to, only absolute and utter morons don't see it for what it is or chose to completely ignore it. When it blows up in everyone's faces...and it will the way things are going those same dopes are going to be asking how no one saw it coming
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
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More than enough reason for Israel to not hold back anymore against anyone.
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They aren't...there is lots of stuff going on behind the scenes. Things so far are going just as Israel planned. They are not fools and they are very crafty. They are expertly playing one country against another, one group against another. They have not lost their will of self preservation and so far they have accomplished their goals. They are very good at creating hate and discontent amongst their enemies. Watch...it's going to get interesting real soon.

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um..DUH. Any rational person knows what Iran has been up to, only absolute and utter morons don't see it for what it is or chose to completely ignore it. When it blows up in everyone's faces...and it will the way things are going those same dopes are going to be asking how no one saw it coming
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


More than enough reason for Israel to not hold back anymore against anyone.
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They aren't...there is lots of stuff going on behind the scenes. Things so far are going just as Israel planned. They are not fools and they are very crafty. They are expertly playing one country against another, one group against another. They have not lost their will of self preservation and so far they have accomplished their goals. They are very good at creating hate and discontent amongst their enemies. Watch...it's going to get interesting real soon.
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eh I prefer a good old fashion just blowing up the enemy into oblivion not this behind the shadows stuff. I prefer my movies to have action and explosions....and for the love of God no love scenes tounge

Humor aside I hear ya Gerry
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
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I will.
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A least the nation of Pool will care, but I guess we will have an opportunity to see the way things are transporting.

hf
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Don't worry MIL MAN. Benevolent ETs will intervene at the end of 2012 to stop world war 3. This was from the Mr.X interview on Project Camelot.
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Daniel 11:45
"45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him."

he would be usa/nato,
it's all about the tempel soon to be built, that's why they pulled back and probably also why the defends minister left (the defends will be taken over by usa/nato),

i expect more troops going there also in Jerusalem and also a next defends minister who agrees/pushes for this.
And also plans for peace/building of the tempel.

Then next in line/or at the same time, the fall of usa/nato and the rise of the beast which had a head wound since the last time it ruled (roman empire).
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Is there anything specific going on in Syria right NOW?
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The difference here is that for the most part, most nations will not raise a fuss when Israel is blown off the map.
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I will.
 Quoting: pool


A least the nation of Pool will care, but I guess we will have an opportunity to see the way things are transporting.

hf
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dude, that was so doom. I saw an image of people holding hands and watching a molecular mushroom/nuclear bomb end life, like a normal sunset.

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