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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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yeah I wanna believe it's BS too but my guts telling me this is real. Assad probably feels he's got nothing to lose anymore, that's makes him extremly dangerous and unpredictable now.
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I watched the NBC news video. They say the bombs are still in the depots, the precursors are loaded, but they are not mixed yet and Assad has given no orders. Whom decided to push this issue tonight as it seems like things have not changed yet?
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simple, they want the american people used to the idea of the US getting involved and have to lay out the reaons before doing so. That way when they get hit finally we on the home front won't be so surprised.
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I know, Obamah is pushing it, further, Israel is pushing it as they would do it alone if noone else will. Turkey is pushing it. Saudi Arabia is pushing it. They want to attack these wmds and that is likely what will happen in the coming hours or few days.
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don't forget the media here is going to make it look like O is coming to the rescue on this...gotta paint this in the best light for the administration.
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Information Office of the Military Council
Damascus | | Airport Road 12/05/2012

The free army - battalion Hamzah bin Abdul Muttalib - brigade of Abu Musa Achaari destroy the military checkpoint that on the fourth bridge through the Road of Damascus international airport

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Up to the minute Egyptian tweets in English.

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Jerusalem Post has gone silent! Last article I could find about chem weapons 12/4/12.

I think we all know what it means with Israel stops talking.
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I watched the NBC news video. They say the bombs are still in the depots, the precursors are loaded, but they are not mixed yet and Assad has given no orders. Whom decided to push this issue tonight as it seems like things have not changed yet?
 Quoting: MIL MAN


simple, they want the american people used to the idea of the US getting involved and have to lay out the reaons before doing so. That way when they get hit finally we on the home front won't be so surprised.
 Quoting: godzilla85


I know, Obamah is pushing it, further, Israel is pushing it as they would do it alone if noone else will. Turkey is pushing it. Saudi Arabia is pushing it. They want to attack these wmds and that is likely what will happen in the coming hours or few days.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


don't forget the media here is going to make it look like O is coming to the rescue on this...gotta paint this in the best light for the administration.
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osuper
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Jerusalem Post has gone silent! Last article I could find about chem weapons 12/4/12.

I think we all know what it means with Israel stops talking.
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BINGO!!!
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Jerusalem Post has gone silent! Last article I could find about chem weapons 12/4/12.

I think we all know what it means with Israel stops talking.
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BINGO!!!
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hey whatever it takes to make sure those weapons aren't used, use napalm if they have to.
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The perfect time for strikes would be right before dawn . . . We got a 5 hour count going now! Anyone know what the presidents schedule says for tonight and tomorrow? I know Bibi was in Europe, might be wise to stay there.
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U.S. Tries to Isolate Syria's Militant Islamists
White House to Sanction al Qaeda-Linked Militia, Recognize Rebel Group, as It Seeks to Empower Moderate Leadership
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The perfect time for strikes would be right before dawn . . . We got a 5 hour count going now! Anyone know what the presidents schedule says for tonight and tomorrow? I know Bibi was in Europe, might be wise to stay there.
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no idea on POTUS itinerary
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THE SUM OF ALL FEARS... somebody call ben affleck and morgan freeman!
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THE SUM OF ALL FEARS... somebody call ben affleck and morgan freeman!
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Very gripping movie. Of course there are fat angry men sitting in a room drinking wine right now who are awaiting the pleasure of manipulating the rest of the world into WWIII.
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haaretz and ynet not reporting syria news!!
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Bracing for a chemical weapon attack
Sources tell CNN’s Barbara Starr that the Pentagon and US intelligence services are consulting with Syria's neighbors Turkey, Israel and Jordan about what to do if it looks like Assad is about to launch a chemical attack on his own people.

A senior US official says all the allies are now considering how to keep Syria from putting chemical warheads on its artillery or missiles.

But an airstrike to stop it, could cause havoc if residual chemicals escape.

What if Assad leaves? US officials say they have long been planing for 'the day after Assad" – such as training Jordanian troops to provide security – but for now they just hope Syrians troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key.
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One thing that can not be forgotten, once those chem weapons are mixed - it doesn't matter how they are released. So, lets say we drop one bomb on a depot. And it causes a release. What's the difference? I'm working up to a point here.

Given the above example, how do we stop the release? We have to bomb the depot to the ground, fire bomb it, bomb it some more and then to make sure and start over again. Which means we end the whole thing with what equals: a daisy cutter.



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The perfect time for strikes would be right before dawn . . . We got a 5 hour count going now! Anyone know what the presidents schedule says for tonight and tomorrow? I know Bibi was in Europe, might be wise to stay there.
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Speed Golf!
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The perfect time for strikes would be right before dawn . . . We got a 5 hour count going now! Anyone know what the presidents schedule says for tonight and tomorrow? I know Bibi was in Europe, might be wise to stay there.
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Speed Golf!
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pigchef some presidents would not find that too amusing but most likely the case. Lol
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FYI in case some are wondering what Sarin does:

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#sarin gas is a neurotoxin that leads to respiratory failure. It kills people the same way an insecticide kills a bug. #syria #tcot
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The Syrian people. Maybe a silent pray is in order, with a tear in my eyes at the thought of what is to come.
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The Syrian people. Maybe a silent pray is in order, with a tear in my eyes at the thought of what is to come.
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Unfortunately, worse than HELL is what's going to come!!!

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The perfect time for strikes would be right before dawn . . . We got a 5 hour count going now! Anyone know what the presidents schedule says for tonight and tomorrow? I know Bibi was in Europe, might be wise to stay there.
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Speed Golf!
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pigchef some presidents would not find that too amusing but most likely the case. Lol
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I was trying to make you laugh - Mission accomplished, Sir.
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Here is my first pre battle field assessment.

The US has more than enough firepower in place to strike Syria. They did not need to leak the location of the carrier but it was.

The sarin gas news has been slowly being released. The NBC break on this story includes that the reason why Obahmah said what he said was because the chemicals were loaded into bombs. This means the President has been sitting on this for a week.

As the weapons remain in their dots, they can be hit. However, I have read more an one article tonight suggesting that the US fears hitting the depots would cause more damage by possibly releasing the sarin gas. A suggestion was trying to get Assad to step down. It is apparent there was room for such a move this week, but Assad has refused to budge.

President Obahmah does not have the balls to hit Syria right now or at least the chemical weapons facilities. He may be willing to take out Assad covertly, but now Israel is sitting on the trigger if no one else will act as she does not want the next Syrian terrorist leader to have those weapons either.

Hope I am wrong about who acts, but Obahmah is known for indecisiveness.
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bs vid prolly

Location: North of Aleppo (a village near the border with Turkey) on the table, make sure to chemicals, especially chemical Articles Tekke. Tekkim Although Turkish-made Chemicals> Internet addresses is the following.

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The Syrian people. Maybe a silent pray is in order, with a tear in my eyes at the thought of what is to come.
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Unfortunately, worse than HELL is what's going to come!!!

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So true. Let's hope that death is quick and painless for those that are unfortunately caught in the crossfire. I feel a nightmare coming on.
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Here is my first pre battle field assessment.

The US has more than enough firepower in place to strike Syria. They did not need to leak the location of the carrier but it was.

The sarin gas news has been slowly being released. The NBC break on this story includes that the reason why Obahmah said what he said was because the chemicals were loaded into bombs. This means the President has been sitting on this for a week.

As the weapons remain in their dots, they can be hit. However, I have read more an one article tonight suggesting that the US fears hitting the depots would cause more damage by possibly releasing the sarin gas. A suggestion was trying to get Assad to step down. It is apparent there was room for such a move this week, but Assad has refused to budge.

President Obahmah does not have the balls to hit Syria right now or at least the chemical weapons facilities. He may be willing to take out Assad covertly, but now Israel is sitting on the trigger if no one else will act as she does not want the next Syrian terrorist leader to have those weapons either.

Hope I am wrong about who acts, but Obahmah is known for indecisiveness.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


I posted this earlier, but in support of MM assessment:


One thing that can not be forgotten, once those chem weapons are mixed - it doesn't matter how they are released. So, lets say we drop one bomb on a depot. And it causes a release. What's the difference? I'm working up to a point here.

Given the above example, how do we stop the release? We have to bomb the depot to the ground, fire bomb it, bomb it some more and then to make sure and start over again. Which means we end the whole thing with what equals: a daisy cutter.




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Assad will most likely gas his neighbors to start the broader regional conflict and give himself an opportunity to vacate.

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Assad will most likely gas his neighbors to start the broader regional conflict and give himself an opportunity to vacate.

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Now if we had accurate information from WND about Iran having biological weapons ready to launch againstnIsrael in support of Syria and Assad intends to defend himself with the chems by making a regional war, then we are facing WWIII and it will bebverynshort lived.
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Assad will most likely gas his neighbors to start the broader regional conflict and give himself an opportunity to vacate.

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Now if we had accurate information from WND about Iran having biological weapons ready to launch againstnIsrael in support of Syria and Assad intends to defend himself with the chems by making a regional war, then we are facing WWIII and it will bebverynshort lived.
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MM, no telling what this lunatic is up to. He might gas his neighbors without even hitting those inside Syria?

I'm sure he is coordinating his every move with Iran and Hezbollah!

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Assad will most likely gas his neighbors to start the broader regional conflict and give himself an opportunity to vacate.

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With respect. ?
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Assad will most likely gas his neighbors to start the broader regional conflict and give himself an opportunity to vacate.

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Now if we had accurate information from WND about Iran having biological weapons ready to launch againstnIsrael in support of Syria and Assad intends to defend himself with the chems by making a regional war, then we are facing WWIII and it will bebverynshort lived.
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MM, no telling what this lunatic is up to. He might gas his neighbors without even hitting those inside Syria?

I'm sure he is coordinating his every move with Iran and Hezbollah!

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You and I do know about voodoo so is seems plausible right now.

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