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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Report: Israel Special Forces Tracking Chemical Weapons in Syria
IDF Special Forces are operating inside Syria to track chemical weapons.


OPSEC dammit!
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Hey MM. Looks like we're both on fire watch tonight. Can't sleep.

What's up with these people? It's almost like watching a Mel Brooks movie. It looks like "they" are setting things up for failure on purpose.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Report: Israel Special Forces Tracking Chemical Weapons in Syria
IDF Special Forces are operating inside Syria to track chemical weapons.


OPSEC dammit!
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Hey MM. Looks like we're both on fire watch tonight. Can't sleep.

What's up with these people? It's almost like watching a Mel Brooks movie. It looks like "they" are setting things up for failure on purpose.
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You are right about that, things are so off kilter. Obama will not call for air strikes yet. Israel is waiting on the US. Assad has moved some weapons to secret locations, he is letting Iranian units decide on whether to use chems or not. Hezbollah is said to have chemical weapons already.

We wait for what? But we reveal ever move there is.
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If there is an attack on Syrian chem sites by US and allied forces,

how big are the chances that Hisbollah and Iran get actively involved, e.g. by attacking Israel or closing the strait ?

Is hisb on the move ?? Any news about this ?
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Travel Warning
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs

Iran

December 07, 2012


The Department of State warns U.S. citizens to carefully consider the risks of travel to Iran. Dual national Iranian-American citizens may encounter difficulty in departing Iran. U.S. citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and carefully consider nonessential travel. This replaces the Travel Warning for Iran issued April 27, 2012 to add additional contact information for the U.S. Interests Section in Tehran.
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Some elements in Iran remain hostile to the United States.tounge As a result, U.S. citizens may be subject to harassment or arrest while traveling or residing in Iran. Since 2009, Iranian authorities have prevented the departure, in some cases for several months, of a number of Iranian-American citizens, including journalists and academics, who traveled to Iran for personal or professional reasons. Iranian authorities also have unjustly detained or imprisoned U.S. citizens on various charges, including espionage and posing a threat to national security. U.S. citizens of Iranian origin should consider the risk of being targeted by authorities before planning travel to Iran. Iranian authorities deny the U.S. Interests Section in Tehran access to imprisoned dual national Iranian-American citizens because Iranian authorities consider them to be solely Iranian citizens; access to U.S. citizens is often denied as well...

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Some elements? are you sure thats it?

how do you expect to get along with a country if you set 30+ bases around them, 3 or 4 aircraft carriers along their coast and you finance efforts to topple its only ally in the region? the terrorist in syria have backpack stinger missiles, where did they get that from? i think all the middle east knows the answer to that
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Russia not to discuss Assad fate with US
2012-12-09 10:08 PM

MOSCOW: Russian and US diplomats are meeting today with UN peace envoy Lakhdar Brahimi for more talks on the civil war in Syria, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, adding that the Americans were wrong to see Moscow as softening its position.

Russia agreed to take part in the talks in Geneva, he said, on the condition there would be no demand for Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down. “We are not conducting any negotiations on the fate of Assad,” Lavrov said. “All attempts to portray things differently are unscrupulous, even for diplomats of those countries which are known to try to distort the facts in their favor.”

Lavrov met last week with Brahimi and US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton in Dublin. Afterward, Clinton said the US and Russia were committed to get both sides in the Syrian conflict to talk about a political transition. Clinton stressed that the US would contin

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Syrian army helicopters have resorted to using naval mines

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It looks like, the thing is much bigger than just between Israel and the muzziiz.

Everybody who has a believe for god, pray.
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Japan on full alert over North Korea's planned rocket launch as 13-day lift-off window opens - @AFP

16 mins ago via breakingnews.com
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[link to www.jihadwatch.org]

Syrian rebels vow to conquer Israel, Iran and Spain.

Of course they blame the West for their becoming "Islamists." Yet despite their recent conversion, they seem well-versed in the Islamic supremacist agenda of reconquering lands that were once ruled by Muslims and that they thus think belong to Islam forever: "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out" (Qur'an 2:191).

"Syrian Rebel Founding 'Robin Hood Brigade' Vows to Conquer Israel, Iran, and Europe..

Assad was awful. These maniacs are at least as bad, and are supported by both Turkey’s Erdogan and our own traitor, Obama.

The populace at large, stuck between Assad and the rebels, probably supports the rebels. But, once the rebels get fully established and turn fundamental, it will be as bad or worse for those just trying to live and get by.

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Syrian rebels vow to conquer Israel, Iran and Spain.

Of course they blame the West for their becoming "Islamists." Yet despite their recent conversion, they seem well-versed in the Islamic supremacist agenda of reconquering lands that were once ruled by Muslims and that they thus think belong to Islam forever: "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out" (Qur'an 2:191).

"Syrian Rebel Founding 'Robin Hood Brigade' Vows to Conquer Israel, Iran, and Europe..

Assad was awful. These maniacs are at least as bad, and are supported by both Turkey’s Erdogan and our own traitor, Obama.

The populace at large, stuck between Assad and the rebels, probably supports the rebels. But, once the rebels get fully established and turn fundamental, it will be as bad or worse for those just trying to live and get by.

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one of those instances that the cure is worse than the disease
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[link to www.jihadwatch.org]

Syrian rebels vow to conquer Israel, Iran and Spain.

Of course they blame the West for their becoming "Islamists." Yet despite their recent conversion, they seem well-versed in the Islamic supremacist agenda of reconquering lands that were once ruled by Muslims and that they thus think belong to Islam forever: "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out" (Qur'an 2:191).

"Syrian Rebel Founding 'Robin Hood Brigade' Vows to Conquer Israel, Iran, and Europe..

Assad was awful. These maniacs are at least as bad, and are supported by both Turkey’s Erdogan and our own traitor, Obama.

The populace at large, stuck between Assad and the rebels, probably supports the rebels. But, once the rebels get fully established and turn fundamental, it will be as bad or worse for those just trying to live and get by.

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one of those instances that the cure is worse than the disease
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G, we are screwed regardless!!!

Barry loves these guys!!!
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Syrian rebels vow to conquer Israel, Iran and Spain.

Of course they blame the West for their becoming "Islamists." Yet despite their recent conversion, they seem well-versed in the Islamic supremacist agenda of reconquering lands that were once ruled by Muslims and that they thus think belong to Islam forever: "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out" (Qur'an 2:191).

"Syrian Rebel Founding 'Robin Hood Brigade' Vows to Conquer Israel, Iran, and Europe..

Assad was awful. These maniacs are at least as bad, and are supported by both Turkey’s Erdogan and our own traitor, Obama.

The populace at large, stuck between Assad and the rebels, probably supports the rebels. But, once the rebels get fully established and turn fundamental, it will be as bad or worse for those just trying to live and get by.

bump bump bump
 Quoting: Steve5728


one of those instances that the cure is worse than the disease
 Quoting: godzilla85


G, we are screwed regardless!!!

Barry loves these guys!!!
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Don't worry, all this will come back to bite him and then hopefully the people will finally see him for what he is and do away with this idioacy of a president.
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Syrian rebels vow to conquer Israel, Iran and Spain.

Of course they blame the West for their becoming "Islamists." Yet despite their recent conversion, they seem well-versed in the Islamic supremacist agenda of reconquering lands that were once ruled by Muslims and that they thus think belong to Islam forever: "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out" (Qur'an 2:191).

"Syrian Rebel Founding 'Robin Hood Brigade' Vows to Conquer Israel, Iran, and Europe..

Assad was awful. These maniacs are at least as bad, and are supported by both Turkey’s Erdogan and our own traitor, Obama.

The populace at large, stuck between Assad and the rebels, probably supports the rebels. But, once the rebels get fully established and turn fundamental, it will be as bad or worse for those just trying to live and get by.

bump bump bump
 Quoting: Steve5728


one of those instances that the cure is worse than the disease
 Quoting: godzilla85


G, we are screwed regardless!!!

Barry loves these guys!!!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Don't worry, all this will come back to bite him and then hopefully the people will finally see him for what he is and do away with this idioacy of a president.
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I hope so. Unfortunately though, the MB has infiltrated every agency of our government. This means really bad news for us in both foreign and domestic policy! I curse the day that this guy stole that office!!!

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Oren: Israel will act if Hezbollah gets hold of Syrian
Israel will act if Syria's chemical weapons pass into Hezbollah's hands, Israeli ambassador to the US Michael Oren told Fox News on Sunday.

"We have clear red lines about those weapons falling into the wrong hands," Oren said.

"Were [the chemical weapons] to pass into the wrong hands, to Hezbollah's hands for example, that would be a game changer for [Israel]," he added.
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It's coming babie!
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Oren: Israel will act if Hezbollah gets hold of Syrian
Israel will act if Syria's chemical weapons pass into Hezbollah's hands, Israeli ambassador to the US Michael Oren told Fox News on Sunday.

"We have clear red lines about those weapons falling into the wrong hands," Oren said.

"Were [the chemical weapons] to pass into the wrong hands, to Hezbollah's hands for example, that would be a game changer for [Israel]," he added.
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It's coming babie!
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Oren: Israel will act if Hezbollah gets hold of Syrian
Israel will act if Syria's chemical weapons pass into Hezbollah's hands, Israeli ambassador to the US Michael Oren told Fox News on Sunday.

"We have clear red lines about those weapons falling into the wrong hands," Oren said.

"Were [the chemical weapons] to pass into the wrong hands, to Hezbollah's hands for example, that would be a game changer for [Israel]," he added.
[link to www.jpost.com]


It's coming babie!
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We already had badvoodoo movement to the north....sooo.....
When were ready they will launch IRENE....
"WE DO BAD THINGS TO BAD PEOPLE"
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Oren: Israel will act if Hezbollah gets hold of Syrian
Israel will act if Syria's chemical weapons pass into Hezbollah's hands, Israeli ambassador to the US Michael Oren told Fox News on Sunday.

"We have clear red lines about those weapons falling into the wrong hands," Oren said.

"Were [the chemical weapons] to pass into the wrong hands, to Hezbollah's hands for example, that would be a game changer for [Israel]," he added.
[link to www.jpost.com]


It's coming babie!
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We already had badvoodoo movement to the north....sooo.....
When were ready they will launch IRENE....
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Agreed, things have been passed around . . . not much point in waiting for the US.
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EVEN DEBKA IS GETTING SOME PIECES TO THE PUZZLE CORRECT.

Concern that Assad may have passed some chemical weapons to Hizballah
[link to www.debka.com]


May get past Tuesday though without the execution order.
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Folks, things are getting closer and closer to a very major conflagaration. Syria is right out in front, but the major support of Syria is Iran and she is due up in 2013.

Netanyahu: Nuclear Iran Will be Dealt with in 2013

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu addressed concerns over Iranian nuclear plans during a media event with foreign journalists, saying, "They are getting closer to building a bomb. We would like American help but we will act alone if necessary, because we're talking about an existential threat."

"In any case, we must deal with this issue in 2013," he added.
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Report: Israel leaking Iranian nuclear information
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Read the above entitled article. The shock! The UN beleives Israel is leaking information on the Iranian Nuclear Program! Israel msut be stopped as it is far more important to get Israel for leaking sensitive informaiton than it is to keep Iran from going nuclear. How else is Iran going to keep its nuclear program a secret until a bomb is detonated? Come on everybody. Israel needs to jsut lie down and allow Iran to develop her nukes so that Israel can be destroyed as Hamas intends, as Hamas is never going to do it alone!rant

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Too quiet today.

The other foot is going to drop very soon in Syria . . . just saying!

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Too quiet today.

The other foot is going to drop very soon in Syria . . . just saying!

yessir
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the other shoe
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"A better read on the Kremlin’s new-old orientation was offered by Fyodor Lukyanov, a foreign policy analyst chummy with the Russian Foreign Minister. Talking to the New York Times, Lukyanov described Assad’s mood as fatalistic. “If he will try to go, to leave, to exit, he will be killed by his own people. If he stays, he will be killed by his opponents. He is in a trap. It is not about Russia or anybody else. It is about his physical survival.” This Dostoevskian assessment translates as: “If Assad resorts to the apocalypse, don’t blame us.”

The only real red line for the Obama administration, I think it’s now safe to assume, is the actual use of WMD. This means that if thousands of Syrians suddenly discover that their skin and lungs are suppurating with blisters, and that they’re vomiting uncontrollably, they should take comfort in the fact that United States will be there “within days.” I don’t think my calculus on the morality or wisdom of Obama’s Syria policy has changed."

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It sure looks like the momentum is building towards intervention -

Exclusive: UK military in talks to help Syria rebels

International coalition could offer air and sea support as well as military training

Kim Sengupta
Monday 10 December 2012

A plan to provide military training to the Syrian rebels fighting the Assad regime and support them with air and naval power is being drawn up by an international coalition including Britain, The Independent has learnt.

The prospect of Western intervention comes as opposition groups, which have been disorganised and divided, at long last formed an umbrella political group and a command structure for their militias. Their foreign backers are said to believe that the 22-month-long civil war has now reached a tipping point and it has become imperative to offer help to the revolutionaries to enable them to make a final push against the regime.

The head of Britain’s armed forces, General Sir David Richards, hosted a confidential meeting in London a few weeks ago attended by the military chiefs of France, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and the UAE, and a three-star American general, in which the strategy was discussed at length.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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It sure looks like the momentum is building towards intervention -

Exclusive: UK military in talks to help Syria rebels

International coalition could offer air and sea support as well as military training

Kim Sengupta
Monday 10 December 2012

A plan to provide military training to the Syrian rebels fighting the Assad regime and support them with air and naval power is being drawn up by an international coalition including Britain, The Independent has learnt.

The prospect of Western intervention comes as opposition groups, which have been disorganised and divided, at long last formed an umbrella political group and a command structure for their militias. Their foreign backers are said to believe that the 22-month-long civil war has now reached a tipping point and it has become imperative to offer help to the revolutionaries to enable them to make a final push against the regime.

The head of Britain’s armed forces, General Sir David Richards, hosted a confidential meeting in London a few weeks ago attended by the military chiefs of France, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and the UAE, and a three-star American general, in which the strategy was discussed at length.

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There will never be peace with the arabs in the ME. It is stupid to intervene in a successfull arab civial war.

All options coming after Assad are bad. We have absolutly no stake in Syria, neither do we have to give "aid" to anyone there.

No one in Syria is worth the life of one marine. No one and nothing is.
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Too quiet today.

The other foot is going to drop very soon in Syria . . . just saying!

yessir
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the other shoe
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Foot/Shoe/Toe/Grenade Pin, they are all the same.
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2013: The Year of the Comets


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Boy, this thread got really quiet all of a sudden.
Is that a good sign or a bad sign? Maybe it's an ominous sign!

Anyway, I just want to thank all of the main posters here.
Probably the best (the most important for sure) thread on GLP. It's definitely one of the sanest.

BTW. How do I get the secret email tips?
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