WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

now full article on RT:

Parts for Patriot missile batteries arrive in Turkey

Parts for the Patriot surface-to-air missile batteries Ankara requested from NATO have started to arrive in Turkey. They were accompanied by 39 German technicians, who will maintain the system.
“Some parts have started coming as of this morning,” the Bloomberg quotes the Turkish Ambassador to the US Namik Tan.
However, he could not confirm which pieces have been received or when the batteries would become operational.
Diplomat Namik Tan also restated Turkey’s official position that the Patriot batteries would only be used for self-defence and with NATO oversight.
"These will be used in a situation where Turkey is attacked," the diplomat was quoted by the US News & World Report.
Tan did not mention if the batteries would fire across the Syrian border.
The diplomat added that the Turkey is currently consulting with NATO allies about where the missile installations should be located.
German advanced military personnel have also arrived in Turkey to help set up the batteries. Colonel Manfred Stange reported Tuesday that 39 staff members were heading to the south-eastern city of Kahramanmaras, about 120 kilometers (75 miles) from the Syrian border.
The full Patriot missile complex is to be installed at the beginning of 2013. The batteries will be brought to Turkey from Germany by sea.
Germany’s Bundestag gave its approval to the deployment on December 14, but it remains unknown when all 400 soldiers, involved in maintaining the Patriot system will arrive. The mission is time-limited to January 2014.
The US military will also be involved, on Friday Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta signed an order to deploy two Patriot air-defense missile batteries to Turkey along with 400 troops.
"We will start to move personnel and equipment soon. We're anticipating the US systems and personnel being in place by mid-January, if all goes as planned," a Defense Department spokesperson explained to News and World Report.
At the beginning of December, NATO foreign ministers agreed to the deployment of six Patriot missile batteries from Germany, Netherlands and the US on the Turkish-Syrian border.
This was in response to a request for assistance from Ankara, which fears more violence could spread across the border from its war-torn neighbour, including possible use of chemical weapons.

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[link to rt.com]

Does anybody has anything to say about the latest debka ?

i never know what to think of debka stories

preparations on going for the retreat to allawite soil, or preparations for a regional suicide ?

Any bets anyone ?

LOL, thats true.

But I read confirmations that russian vessels landed in Tarsomething and that the US naval force left the place.

Maybe a deal between Russia and Osi for a retreat of Assad ?

Maybe all getting ready for a regional showdown ?

Lets list the developments and the implications:

the developments:

1) patriots and US marines in Turkey, marines in Jordan, lots of US steal floating around everywhere

2) russian naval buildup in the mediterranean, apparently missile buildup in Syria, apparently big shit arms delivery to Assad, debka talks about iskander missiles and that russian have landed in syria

3) russian forces buildup opposite of norway

4) russian forces buildup opposite of iran in the north

5) apparently some US vessels left the building right before the russians went to Tartus

well put it that way and it doesn't sound good

the implications / reasoning:

1) secret deal to split up Syria, Assad retreats to allawite soil, takes all he can with him. He needs an assurance that he is not attacked or "smoked out".

--> russian forces landing and shipping arms, providing cover up and deterrant against patriots with stationing of iskanders in allawite country. Russian marines deploy.

2) Barry is distracted with school shooting, russians made a quit for quo and face up nato with own deployments to shield Assad. No deal no talks between the US and Russia.

--> russian forces landing and like that black turban said: one step close to 3rd WW.

3) Star portal are said to be located in Damaskus or surrounding areas. Since the time line frequency will be disrupted at the 21the, portal will open, thus big powers have an interest to be near in order to control them.

Good, or not good. Who knows ?

Maybe a solution and rebuilding is better for the people there, than continous civil war ?

Maybe the suffering in the arab world is meant to repent and rethink, who kill in the name of god ?

Maybe it is just meant as a mirror of whats going on in everyone - a figth between good and evil (and I do not mean that all the arabs are "evil").

In the koran it is said, if there is said to be peace in jerusalem, it is the last sign for the end of the world.
That could mean everything and all the rest.

So who knows.

I read once, that things on this earth are in a manner tightly watched and allowed or not allowed.
I read also, that there are people, who believe in god as their father, and they are with their father.
It is said also, that those have nothing to fear.

I do not fear nothing. End of the world, terrorist attack, 3rd world war, pole shifts or nibirus, who cares ? I have my father, if I go, I know where I go. And it will be good. I know, where I go, all means will be in place to continue my journey, my way to god.

Can we please keep this thread up to date, even if dec 21th is approaching and xmas is lurking rigth after ????

Where are all those regulars ?

"At least 44,063 people have been killed in 21 months," said Syrian Observatory for Human Rights director Rami Abdel Rahman.

He said they were 30,819 civilians, 1,482 defectors, 10,978 soldiers and 784 people whose identities were impossible to document.

[link to now.mmedia.me (secure)]

That's only the official figure.
That doesn't say how they died, either.

Those 784 people are foreign individiuals.

Among the 30,819 civilians, are all the civilians and the ones armed. The ratio between those civilians and the once participating in combat is not known.

Normally it is 60 to 80 % civilians and the rest are armed insurgents.

Defectors, doesn't exist normally. This figure, is a dummy figure.

"In times of global warming, the glaciers are melting on the continents relatively quickly. At the same time the sea level rises. The weight on the continents decreases, while the weight on the oceanic tectonic plates increases. Thus, the stress changes within in the Earth to open more routes for ascending magma" says Dr Jegen.

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Well, another topic. Sigh!

Hey guys...you'll be glad to know we still have some real Americans out there. Lots of people talking this way.


I will accept no law that leaves Homeland Security more armed than myself, on the grounds that I have better accuracy with an assault rifle than them, and I wouldn't trust them in a time of foreign invasion more than myself. They'd be prone to letting the guns vanish like they did in 2010.

Our government is too incompetent to be trusted in a case of homeland war, whether it be invasive or civil. It's my responsibility as an American citizen to protect myself, my country, and my constitution.

This war has just begun.

Amen to that. "From my cold dead hands is all I got to say.."

And amen!!!

We will do bad things to bad people

good, no more mercy for bad people.

Morning all. Been very busy week. Hope to get time to post and get back to regular. The 21st is moving and going . . . Aton, you are very right on many points.




In real time news . . .


Syria's Chemical Weapons Transported Towards Lebanon
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

It is so close to reality that we should all be afraid! Maybe not tonight or next week, but it is evident that some other nations want the US killed off and very soon!



PRY: North Korea EMP attack could destroy U.S. — now

North Korea now has an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of delivering a nuclear weapon to the United States, as demonstrated by their successful launch and orbiting of a satellite on Dec. 12. Certain poorly informed pundits among the chattering classes reassure us that North Korea is still years away from being able to miniaturize warheads for missile delivery, and from developing sufficiently accurate missiles to pose a serious nuclear threat to the United States. Philip Yun, director of San Francisco’s Ploughshares Fund, a nuclear disarmament group, reportedly said, “The real threat from the launch was an overreaction that would lead to more defense spending on unnecessary systems. The sky is not falling. We shouldn’t be panicked.”

In fact, North Korea is a mortal nuclear threat to the United States— right now.

North Korea has already successfully tested and developed nuclear weapons. It has also already miniaturized nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery and has armed missiles with nuclear warheads. In 2011, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Lt. General Ronald Burgess, testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee that North Korea has weaponized its nuclear devices into warheads for ballistic missiles.

North Korea has labored for years and starved its people so it could develop an intercontinental missile capable of reaching the United States. Why? Because they have a special kind of nuclear weapon that could destroy the United States with a single blow.

In summer 2004, a delegation of Russian generals warned the Congressional Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Commission that secrets had leaked to North Korea for a decisive new nuclear weapon — a Super-EMP warhead.

Read more: [link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Thanks for the info. Have not seen this. Pretty serious!

I believe this pushes things up a notch.

New Missiles for Iran Impact Hagel Debate

Snips from article:

According to a report broadcast this morning on Fox News, diplomatic sources are saying that a Russian air defense system sold to Syria is now being transferred to Iran.

But no matter what it means for Syria, the arrival of the missiles in Iran will make a big difference for Western and Israeli military forces contemplating air strikes on the Islamist regime’s nuclear sites. Iran’s air defenses would be immeasurably strengthened were it able to deploy enough of the mobile phased radar array weapons....

[link to www.commentarymagazine.com]

Last Edited by Earth Cries on 12/21/2012 07:39 AM

Syria military 'continuing to fire Scud-type missiles'

Nato Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen says Syrian government forces are continuing to fire short-range ballistic missiles at rebel fighters.

A Nato source told the Reuters news agency that surveillance had detected multiple launches of "Scud-type missiles" on Thursday morning...

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Morning or good day all.

The chemical weapons issue in Syria gets more intense as each day passes. Rebels are getting too close to the weapons. Assad has moved around wmds and there was no action by Bibi to prevent this. Now Russia has upped the stakes with the delivery of missile systems to Iran and Syria. Nothing good will come. At least I have a cup of hot coffee to get going this cold wintry dark morning.


Oops that's a beer.

Lets try again.

well much to my dismay the world didn't end this morning at the moment of the galactic alignment...I waited for it...gave it time to see if it was one of those slow end of world things...but no...not a damn thing (all in sarcasm)

Thank God for coffee MM

All of these Masonic countries are working together to kill you!!!

Sure they are....yup, that's the ticket...Masons are out to kill you...right after they finish the new burn ward for children...idiot.