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Tehran starts naval maneuvers near Strait of Hormuz

Iran’s navy has begun maneuvers in the area of the Strait of Hormuz, state TV reported. The maneuvers which began early Friday involve warships, submarines jet fighters and hovercrafts. Iran earlier warned ships to stay away from the area until January 3, and the drills will cover nearly 1 million square kilometers from the Strait of Hormuz to northern part of Indian Ocean, including the Sea of Oman. There have been no threats from Tehran lately to close the strait, where one-fifth of the world's oil passes, over Western sanctions.

Beijing sends patrol vessel to disputed South China Sea

China has dispatched a patrol vessel Haixun 21, equipped with a helipad, to the disputed region of the South China Sea. The ship departed the southern city of Haikou on Thursday, Xinhua reported. China claims most of the South China Sea is its own. Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Taiwan stake similar claims in parts of the area. The Philippines objects to Chinese patrols of Philippine maritime territory. Manila said Friday it has called on China to respect the Philippines' territorial sovereignty.

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If I do come across something important and can't find an internet link, I will send to MM or Gerry and let them decide how to proceed.
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I've never seen anything on this thread that gives me pause; and I don't believe you or any of the regular posters here would post anything inappropriate...

But - I have seen things on GLP that concern me and I'm always worried about the "me too" crowd. You'll see an appropriately vague, but useful, post by someone "in the know" and then someone else posts "my cousins in the xx and they are currently on route to hell-hole y, they will be arriving around z (have your MANPADs ready)." I added the last part but you get the picture...

Speaking of MANPADs, I hope that is not the reason the Central African Republic evacuation was halted...

Here's Global Post summary of yesterday's evacuation -

US evacuates embassy in Central African Republic [link to www.globalpost.com]

Interesting tidbits on who's staying behind from CNN -

The Central African Republic government is seeking negotiations with the rebels in Libreville, Gabon, he said. In the meantime, troops from the Central African Multinational Forces were expected to arrive to bolster security in the capital, he said...

France has a permanent presence of 200 to 300 military personnel at Bangui's airport under the mandate of the Economic Community of Central African States...

Source - [link to www.cnn.com]
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How do you post a pic? I have my special assistant to the moderator uniform picked out...

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Darby......im for u being gate keeper to mm...plus maybe being national security advisor to mm and thread...as one of mm's HUMINT staff...i just want to say that info mm receives he filters opsec and posts info so the readership can stay informed and take necessary steps to protect our families.....DD, ive read all of your posts and your good...
Advice cause were in this together.........dont wear it on your sleve...put some extra protective shields around it....i say that with the utmost respect..
MM..2013!!!!!!!!
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Thanks, BUT I will not trespass on MM's domain. My role, if one is offered, will be decorative only. As you can tell, my uniform is lacking sleeves; and if you haven't noticed, I'm kind of a flake...

PS - I hate this pic; it was taken last 4th of July; it had been a long July 3rd - but it's the only pic I had in uniform...

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I got a 6 pk too but its not that flat, kinda rounded I guess you could say and nice n cold though.
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I will continue to the new thread as this is where I come to get reliable info on what going on around. I don't have info to add but I have my first nephew that is in the Navy and concerned. Thanks
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And then there is this...

Chinese Hackers Suspected in Cyber Attack on Council on Foreign Relations

Computer hackers traced to China carried out an advanced cyberespionage attack against one of America’s most elite foreign policy web groups – the website of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)...

However, David Mikhail, a Council on Foreign Relations spokesman, confirmed the attack. “The Council on Foreign Relations’ website security team is aware of the issue and is currently investigating the situation,” Mikhail said in an email. “We are also working to mitigate the possibility for future events of this sort.” He provided no details...

“This was a very sophisticated attack,” said one of the specialists. “They were looking for very specific information from specific people.”...

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:Patriotic Mom:
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You are a sight to behold with a ton of bravado.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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R**ters has a very good summary on the last 18 months of economic warfare against Iran...

It's entitled - "Special Report: Inside the West's economic war with Iran" and it's available on their website...
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Looks like Central African Republic is about to fall...

Refugees are fleeing Capitol. Regional troops will be sent to assist the 560 ECCAS forces already in the country (unspecified number; unspecified date)

[link to thestar.com.my]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

And then these little gems from today's R**ters article entitled - Residents flee Bangui as rebels pause for talks...

...The Central African Republic is one of a number of nations in the region where U.S. Special Forces are helping local forces try to track down the Lords Resistance Army...

...French nuclear energy group Areva mines the Bakouma uranium deposit in the CAR's south - France's biggest commercial interest in its former colony...

Let's hope this is not repeat of Bamako, where are special forces guys end up dead and then defamed by their own government...

Why do our special forces always seem to be in countries with uranium mines?

Just wondering...
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Looks like Central African Republic is about to fall...

Refugees are fleeing Capitol. Regional troops will be sent to assist the 560 ECCAS forces already in the country (unspecified number; unspecified date)

[link to thestar.com.my]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

And then these little gems from today's R**ters article entitled - Residents flee Bangui as rebels pause for talks...

...The Central African Republic is one of a number of nations in the region where U.S. Special Forces are helping local forces try to track down the Lords Resistance Army...

...French nuclear energy group Areva mines the Bakouma uranium deposit in the CAR's south - France's biggest commercial interest in its former colony...

Let's hope this is not repeat of Bamako, where are special forces guys end up dead and then defamed by their own government...

Why do our special forces always seem to be in countries with uranium mines?

Just wondering...
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to make sure it doesn't end up in the wrong hands
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Looks like Central African Republic is about to fall...

Refugees are fleeing Capitol. Regional troops will be sent to assist the 560 ECCAS forces already in the country (unspecified number; unspecified date)

[link to thestar.com.my]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

And then these little gems from today's R**ters article entitled - Residents flee Bangui as rebels pause for talks...

...The Central African Republic is one of a number of nations in the region where U.S. Special Forces are helping local forces try to track down the Lords Resistance Army...

...French nuclear energy group Areva mines the Bakouma uranium deposit in the CAR's south - France's biggest commercial interest in its former colony...

Let's hope this is not repeat of Bamako, where are special forces guys end up dead and then defamed by their own government...

Why do our special forces always seem to be in countries with uranium mines?

Just wondering...
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to make sure it doesn't end up in the wrong hands
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You don't say...(sorry I have to un-flip my obnoxious switch)

It's worth noting that the uranium/special forces link (if the link is real and not false correlation) is not like the 1970s Cold War fight over access to natural resources - it involves the smaller producers.

Background - In 1970s parts of Africa (e.g. Congo) were vitally important to US b/c they were the only places outside of Soviet sphere of influence that produced key natural resources.

Canada is 2nd largest uranium producer in world; Australia is 3rd. Several former Soviet republics are in top 10... So access isn't an issue (for either of the old Cold War sides)

The fight appears to be over producers who are not in the top 10 (e.g. CAR).

So, presuming that uranium is an issue - we are fighting shadow wars not to keep vital source available, but to keep the non-vital sources safe...
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Looks like Central African Republic is about to fall...

Refugees are fleeing Capitol. Regional troops will be sent to assist the 560 ECCAS forces already in the country (unspecified number; unspecified date)

[link to thestar.com.my]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

And then these little gems from today's R**ters article entitled - Residents flee Bangui as rebels pause for talks...

...The Central African Republic is one of a number of nations in the region where U.S. Special Forces are helping local forces try to track down the Lords Resistance Army...

...French nuclear energy group Areva mines the Bakouma uranium deposit in the CAR's south - France's biggest commercial interest in its former colony...

Let's hope this is not repeat of Bamako, where are special forces guys end up dead and then defamed by their own government...

Why do our special forces always seem to be in countries with uranium mines?

Just wondering...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


to make sure it doesn't end up in the wrong hands
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You don't say...(sorry I have to un-flip my obnoxious switch)
It's worth noting that the uranium/special forces link (if the link is real and not false correlation) is not like the 1970s Cold War fight over access to natural resources - it involves the smaller producers.

Background - In 1970s parts of Africa (e.g. Congo) were vitally important to US b/c they were the only places outside of Soviet sphere of influence that produced key natural resources.

Canada is 2nd largest uranium producer in world; Australia is 3rd. Several former Soviet republics are in top 10... So access isn't an issue (for either of the old Cold War sides)

The fight appears to be over producers who are not in the top 10 (e.g. CAR).

So, presuming that uranium is an issue - we are fighting shadow wars not to keep vital source available, but to keep the non-vital sources safe...
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I walked right into that one, see I wasn't lying about my ability to annoy or otherwise repel the opposite gender tounge
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Looks like Central African Republic is about to fall...

Why do our special forces always seem to be in countries with uranium mines?

Just wondering...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


to make sure it doesn't end up in the wrong hands
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You don't say...(sorry I have to un-flip my obnoxious switch)
It's worth noting that the uranium/special forces link (if the link is real and not false correlation) is not like the 1970s Cold War fight over access to natural resources - it involves the smaller producers....

So, presuming that uranium is an issue - we are fighting shadow wars not to keep vital source available, but to keep the non-vital sources safe...
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I walked right into that one, see I wasn't lying about my ability to annoy or otherwise repel the opposite gender tounge
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It's not your fault...I (totally) set you up by asking the question

AND

Brainy people are supposed to wear clothes...Have you ever seen Stephen Hawking in a thong? (Don't answer - especially If the answer is yes)
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to make sure it doesn't end up in the wrong hands
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You don't say...(sorry I have to un-flip my obnoxious switch)
It's worth noting that the uranium/special forces link (if the link is real and not false correlation) is not like the 1970s Cold War fight over access to natural resources - it involves the smaller producers....

So, presuming that uranium is an issue - we are fighting shadow wars not to keep vital source available, but to keep the non-vital sources safe...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I walked right into that one, see I wasn't lying about my ability to annoy or otherwise repel the opposite gender tounge
 Quoting: godzilla85


It's not your fault...I (totally) set you up by asking the question

AND

Brainy people are supposed to wear clothes...Have you ever seen Stephen Hawking in a thong? (Don't answer - especially If the answer is yes)
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lol not answering but giving you a hint since I still have my eyesite. That is so not true about the brainey people...smart people can be hot looking too.
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

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We were off-topic...

I'm seeing a number of ships near the coast of UAE (Abu Dhabi & another area)...none in actual Straits...

But I have absolutely no frame of reference to determine whether that is usual or not...
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

** you might need to zoom out when the screen loads
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We were off-topic...

I'm seeing a number of ships near the coast of UAE (Abu Dhabi & another area)...none in actual Straits...

But I have absolutely no frame of reference to determine whether that is usual or not...
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I just remember looking at this several times in the past and there being ships/tankers out the wazoo.. at least 5 times what is showing up. Perhaps it's the time of morning and/or day.
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

** you might need to zoom out when the screen loads
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We were off-topic...

I'm seeing a number of ships near the coast of UAE (Abu Dhabi & another area)...none in actual Straits...

But I have absolutely no frame of reference to determine whether that is usual or not...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I just remember looking at this several times in the past and there being ships/tankers out the wazoo.. at least 5 times what is showing up. Perhaps it's the time of morning and/or day.
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On average 36 oil tankers pass in one day.. which seems about right, but there still seems to be no near as many ships as usual. who knows.. I just thought it seemed strange.

[link to www.niacouncil.org]
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I don't think Obummer has the balls to attack Syria and Iran. He just won't do it.
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

** you might need to zoom out when the screen loads
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We were off-topic...

I'm seeing a number of ships near the coast of UAE (Abu Dhabi & another area)...none in actual Straits...

But I have absolutely no frame of reference to determine whether that is usual or not...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I just remember looking at this several times in the past and there being ships/tankers out the wazoo.. at least 5 times what is showing up. Perhaps it's the time of morning and/or day.
 Quoting: novamom


On average 36 oil tankers pass in one day.. which seems about right, but there still seems to be no near as many ships as usual. who knows.. I just thought it seemed strange.

[link to www.niacouncil.org]
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There could be a random reason; refinery closures; timing...

Two reasons -

Iraqi Kurds have shut down supply over dispute w/ Iraqi central gov't - that must greatly decrease flow of tankers through Straits...and

Iranian Oil sanctions are being phased in & have really started to take a bite...I know tankers carrying Iranian oil can no longer get insurance which must have ended tanker shipments from Iran...

So take Iranian oil (2nd largest producer) & big part of Iraqi oil out of Gulf - what left. I think Saudi oil goes through pipelines...
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We were off-topic...

I'm seeing a number of ships near the coast of UAE (Abu Dhabi & another area)...none in actual Straits...

But I have absolutely no frame of reference to determine whether that is usual or not...
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I just remember looking at this several times in the past and there being ships/tankers out the wazoo.. at least 5 times what is showing up. Perhaps it's the time of morning and/or day.
 Quoting: novamom


On average 36 oil tankers pass in one day.. which seems about right, but there still seems to be no near as many ships as usual. who knows.. I just thought it seemed strange.

[link to www.niacouncil.org]
 Quoting: novamom


There could be a random reason; refinery closures; timing...

Two reasons -

Iraqi Kurds have shut down supply over dispute w/ Iraqi central gov't - that must greatly decrease flow of tankers through Straits...and

Iranian Oil sanctions are being phased in & have really started to take a bite...I know tankers carrying Iranian oil can no longer get insurance which must have ended tanker shipments from Iran...

So take Iranian oil (2nd largest producer) & big part of Iraqi oil out of Gulf - what left. I think Saudi oil goes through pipelines...
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Ahh, I wasn't thining from that angle~ long day
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Russian FM Lavrov said on Saturday that there was “no possibility” that President Bashar al-Assad of Syria could be persuaded to leave and that the opposition’s insistence on his departure as a precondition for peace talks would only cost “more and more lives of Syrian citizens” — suggesting slender hope for a breakthrough in negotiating an end to a conflict that has already killed more than 40,000...

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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

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5a

As I recall there is a big Iranian Navel exercise in the Straits this weekend which started on the 28th and they warned off all foreign ships especially the USN.
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

** you might need to zoom out when the screen loads
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5a

As I recall there is a big Iranian Navel exercise in the Straits this weekend which started on the 28th and they warned off all foreign ships especially the USN.
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That sounds like a winner... Wouldn't want your tanker traversing a sea of hyped-up Iranian sailors...
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

** you might need to zoom out when the screen loads
 Quoting: novamom


We were off-topic...

I'm seeing a number of ships near the coast of UAE (Abu Dhabi & another area)...none in actual Straits...

But I have absolutely no frame of reference to determine whether that is usual or not...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I just remember looking at this several times in the past and there being ships/tankers out the wazoo.. at least 5 times what is showing up. Perhaps it's the time of morning and/or day.
 Quoting: novamom


On average 36 oil tankers pass in one day.. which seems about right, but there still seems to be no near as many ships as usual. who knows.. I just thought it seemed strange.

[link to www.niacouncil.org]
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yes, most ships for the past day have been moored…

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DailyMail has a story on the British guy who "disappeared" in Mauritania - sounds like a potential Darwin Award winner...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

He was going to walk across the desert into Mali to join the Jihad...He was rescued 12 miles outside of town...
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DailyMail has a story on the British guy who "disappeared" in Mauritania - sounds like a potential Darwin Award winner...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

He was going to walk across the desert into Mali to join the Jihad...He was rescued 12 miles outside of town...
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What were the chances he would make it? Maybe they should have just let him go.
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The tagging of marine travel is volunteer. The strait could be flooded with them for all we know.
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DailyMail has a story on the British guy who "disappeared" in Mauritania - sounds like a potential Darwin Award winner...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

He was going to walk across the desert into Mali to join the Jihad...He was rescued 12 miles outside of town...
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What were the chances he would make it? Maybe they should have just let him go.
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Chances of survival? Zero...

No one makes it through the desert on foot alone (even Taureg travel in small groups)...

I always wonder if its some sort of plan to let the weirdos gather in one place for convenient killing - problem with that plan...the smart ones always seem to survive & they come back...worse than before
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This may be a little off topic, but aren't there usually a lot more ships flowing through the Strait?? I thought somebody here may know...

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

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As I recall there is a big Iranian Navel exercise in the Straits this weekend which started on the 28th and they warned off all foreign ships especially the USN.
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Yes, I forgot about that!! Thank-you~ I knew it look slightly off.
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Has Syria become Al-Qaeda's New Base for Terror Strikes on Europe


Based on Western intelligence sources, Die Welt reports the following with respect to Syria:

(1) Ayman al Zawahiri's point of contact in Syria is Abu Muhammad al-Julani. You can read more about him here.

(2) "Western intelligence agencies believe that there are some 100 Muslims with European passports involved in the war in Syria" and those same agencies are concerned that they will return to Europe with bad intentions.

(3) "Western intelligence operatives say that al Nusrah runs several large training camps in Syria where Islamists with fighting experience - veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - train new recruits, including Islamists from Western countries."

(4) There is growing concern that the al Nusrah Front will get its hands on Assad's chemical weapons.




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