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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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"White House sources partly confirmed an alarming report that U.S. government computers -- reportedly including systems used by the military for nuclear commands -- were breached by Chinese hackers."

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I read that, too. If that is really true, it would amount to a declaration of war by China. At least in my eyes.
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"White House sources partly confirmed an alarming report that U.S. government computers -- reportedly including systems used by the military for nuclear commands -- were breached by Chinese hackers."

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I read that, too. If that is really true, it would amount to a declaration of war by China. At least in my eyes.
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A declaration of war???? I'd be interested to know why you think that. Whether they admit it or not I'm fairly certain that most civilised governments, the USA for one, attempt to hack into other country's secure systems / sites etc... without it being perceived as a declaration of war.
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On stratfor:
[link to www.stratfor.com]

French troops are deploying to North Africa, american troops movements to the gulf and Irak. Apparently requested by the iraki government, US counter terrorist units are being deployed into irak.

damned
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Here we are, Iranian rial on the verge of collapse, I think this is the start of something big, I bet on hormuz, real this time.....
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Here we are, Iranian rial on the verge of collapse, I think this is the start of something big, I bet on hormuz, real this time.....
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Thats nothing that an influx of gold backed Yuan can´t fix.
I´d expect the Chinese helping them just because.
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"White House sources partly confirmed an alarming report that U.S. government computers -- reportedly including systems used by the military for nuclear commands -- were breached by Chinese hackers."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


I read that, too. If that is really true, it would amount to a declaration of war by China. At least in my eyes.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


A declaration of war???? I'd be interested to know why you think that. Whether they admit it or not I'm fairly certain that most civilised governments, the USA for one, attempt to hack into other country's secure systems / sites etc... without it being perceived as a declaration of war.
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Illeagaly downloading music can get you fined, where I live.
Hacking into banks is, where I live, a criminal offense and can get you into jail.

Breaking into the white house intranet and steal nuke codes and / or attack the power grip, is a declaration of war, if done by a state actor. And I guess nobody really believes that chinese hackers are not state conrolled.

Its a rought world out there, and you need to name things by its proper name, if not one chooses to live on delusions.
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"White House sources partly confirmed an alarming report that U.S. government computers -- reportedly including systems used by the military for nuclear commands -- were breached by Chinese hackers."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


I read that, too. If that is really true, it would amount to a declaration of war by China. At least in my eyes.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


A declaration of war???? I'd be interested to know why you think that. Whether they admit it or not I'm fairly certain that most civilised governments, the USA for one, attempt to hack into other country's secure systems / sites etc... without it being perceived as a declaration of war.
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Illeagaly downloading music can get you fined, where I live.
Hacking into banks is, where I live, a criminal offense and can get you into jail.

Breaking into the white house intranet and steal nuke codes and / or attack the power grip, is a declaration of war, if done by a state actor. And I guess nobody really believes that chinese hackers are not state conrolled.

Its a rought world out there, and you need to name things by its proper name, if not one chooses to live on delusions.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


And how can you blindly believe all that they tell you?
As far as you know this could be a setup by the USA to stage a false flag attack. You wouldnt know, the media feeds you with constant lies after all...
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Here we are, Iranian rial on the verge of collapse, I think this is the start of something big, I bet on hormuz, real this time.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23105041


Thats nothing that an influx of gold backed Yuan can´t fix.
I´d expect the Chinese helping them just because.
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True this, and probably they get help from various countries.

But the fact remains, that the situation is not acceptable for Iran. It cannot be, they are being pushed into a corner.

They need to act, or accept economical collapse and mass uprisings.
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I read that, too. If that is really true, it would amount to a declaration of war by China. At least in my eyes.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


A declaration of war???? I'd be interested to know why you think that. Whether they admit it or not I'm fairly certain that most civilised governments, the USA for one, attempt to hack into other country's secure systems / sites etc... without it being perceived as a declaration of war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24690695


Illeagaly downloading music can get you fined, where I live.
Hacking into banks is, where I live, a criminal offense and can get you into jail.

Breaking into the white house intranet and steal nuke codes and / or attack the power grip, is a declaration of war, if done by a state actor. And I guess nobody really believes that chinese hackers are not state conrolled.

Its a rought world out there, and you need to name things by its proper name, if not one chooses to live on delusions.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


And how can you blindly believe all that they tell you?
As far as you know this could be a setup by the USA to stage a false flag attack. You wouldnt know, the media feeds you with constant lies after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15400092


You are right, thats why I wrote "If that is really true, ... "

After, what you read on the news, you judge it yourself and its probability of being right or wrong. Depending on different things, different people come to different conclusions.

Thats normal.
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OT - Yet Again...

Even though I agree - the situation in the Shia crescent is getting interesting...

Last weekend, I posted on a thread re: Gaddafi's death.... I didn't notice until after I had posted that the thread was entitled "Hero Gaddafi"

Hero??? Really??

I was not happy to see Gaddafi raped, beaten & lynched. I have no issue with the thugs who did that to him facing some rough Libyan justice... But I think people need to look past the YouTube propaganda and remember a few things about the Colonel. I'll keep it brief & stay off the controversial topics...

1) Gaddafi the Internationalist - Gaddafi was a big supported of Black September. The terrorists who slaughtered the Israeli Olympic Team were waiting for a plane to take them to Gaddafi's Libya. Gaddafi was also a supporter of the Provisional IRA. When they launched a bombing campaign across the UK in the 1970s, he bragged that it was "Libyan Bombs" killing the English. Gaddafi also built Islamic learning centers that spread a moderate Sufi-tinged formed of Islam. These centers taught that Christians should be viewed as Moslems who were following an incorrect form of Islam, rather than Kaffirs who should be slaughtered....

2). Gaddafi the African - Gaddafi was a driving force behind the formation of the AU. He launched a satellite that brought inexpensive telecommunications to Africa. He supported the ANC and Nelson Mandela. He also supported Idi Amin and Charles Taylor. If you want to see a accurate depiction of Taylor's drug-addled child-soldier driven reign of terror, watch Dogs of War. In Sudan, former members of Gaddafi's Arab Legion were among the founders/leaders of the Janjaweed, which carried out a genocide in Darfur in the 2000s.

The world is a complex place. Those who occupy the world stage are often complex characters. Gaddafi certainly was....
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I just saw this article today on msn... not sure if folks already addressed this or not... but it is interesting.

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]


Its about isreal maybe "going-it-alone" against iran!!!

Last Edited by JoeGreen on 10/01/2012 06:37 PM
Indeed, there is no-one on earth who is righteous, no-one who does what is right and never sins. (Ecclesiastes 7:20)
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"Russia Evacuating Personnel from Tartus Naval Base"

Does it means that intervention in Syria is imminent ?
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Relax they say that crap every 2 months
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"White House sources partly confirmed an alarming report that U.S. government computers -- reportedly including systems used by the military for nuclear commands -- were breached by Chinese hackers."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


I read that, too. If that is really true, it would amount to a declaration of war by China. At least in my eyes.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


A declaration of war???? I'd be interested to know why you think that. Whether they admit it or not I'm fairly certain that most civilised governments, the USA for one, attempt to hack into other country's secure systems / sites etc... without it being perceived as a declaration of war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24690695


Illeagaly downloading music can get you fined, where I live.
Hacking into banks is, where I live, a criminal offense and can get you into jail.

Breaking into the white house intranet and steal nuke codes and / or attack the power grip, is a declaration of war, if done by a state actor. And I guess nobody really believes that chinese hackers are not state conrolled.

Its a rought world out there, and you need to name things by its proper name, if not one chooses to live on delusions.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^



Well said aton.
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Hey folks, been keeping myself scarce after an incident prior to the weekend on here when I let someone get under my skin a bit too much and I lost my temper. To those that know me well enough sorry you had to see that and that I exhibited that type of unprofessional behavior on here to begin with, I should know better.

On the ME front nothing new that is making me think something is imminent, then again the quiet is usually never a good sign. I guess we'll see in the next few weeks wether the Israelis will take the initiative and their future into their own hands or wether they will rely on an American administration that at best has shown them nothing but contempt and disregard for their security situation.

That's all for now as usual, I could be and most likely am wrong.
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Hang around more, do not let the bastards get you down!

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[link to www.nowlebanon.com]

Iran is suffering the effects of tough Western economic sanctions curbing access to its reduced oil exports, as the West seeks to force Iran to rein in its nuclear program.

"Iran is increasingly cut off from the global financial system, significant amounts of Iranian oil is also coming off the market," Nuland told journalists.

"The currency is plummeting and firms all over the world are refusing to do business with Iranian companies," she insisted.

"These are the most punishing sanctions we have ever been able to amass as an international community and they are very important for trying to get Iran's attention on the important denuclearization work."

________________________________________

Prior to the Irak war, irak was softened up by daily airstrikes.

If the sanctions bite, as said above in the article, it is like prior to the irak war.

Iran must know that, every day that passes, the chances of iranian action increases. The situation as is, is not acceptable, cannot be acceptable by any state.

Iran must do something to increase its leverage vis a vis the international comunity. The ball is on their side .... .

popcorn
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Aton:

You are very all-knowing!

That is the same point I would have posted this evening. Iran is being crushed economically and has found Syria's 10 billion loan has not been enough to rid Syria of the brotherhood. Game plan now, get Israel double crossed. MM emailed me about this yesterday and you all know last week Iran and Syria played a military game of brinkmanship to see what they could get away with with chems being moved in war games.

About all I can say.
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Qatar sends an ambassador (and millions of dollars) to Hamas..

In a boost to Gaza's Hamas government, the Gulf state of Qatar said on Sunday it opened the first diplomatic office in the isolated territory since the Islamic military group took power five years ago.

Qatari officials said the office is not a formal embassy. Instead, it will oversee hundreds of millions of dollars in aid projects Qatar is funding.
Nonetheless, it is headed by an ambassador and marks a key stamp of legitimacy for Hamas, whose takeover of Gaza in 2007 has never been internationally recognized.

Qatar opens diplomatic office in Gaza - [link to news.yahoo.com]
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OT - Yet Again...

Even though I agree - the situation in the Shia crescent is getting interesting...

Last weekend, I posted on a thread re: Gaddafi's death.... I didn't notice until after I had posted that the thread was entitled "Hero Gaddafi"

Hero??? Really??

I was not happy to see Gaddafi raped, beaten & lynched. I have no issue with the thugs who did that to him facing some rough Libyan justice... But I think people need to look past the YouTube propaganda and remember a few things about the Colonel. I'll keep it brief & stay off the controversial topics...

1) Gaddafi the Internationalist - Gaddafi was a big supported of Black September. The terrorists who slaughtered the Israeli Olympic Team were waiting for a plane to take them to Gaddafi's Libya. Gaddafi was also a supporter of the Provisional IRA. When they launched a bombing campaign across the UK in the 1970s, he bragged that it was "Libyan Bombs" killing the English. Gaddafi also built Islamic learning centers that spread a moderate Sufi-tinged formed of Islam. These centers taught that Christians should be viewed as Moslems who were following an incorrect form of Islam, rather than Kaffirs who should be slaughtered....

2). Gaddafi the African - Gaddafi was a driving force behind the formation of the AU. He launched a satellite that brought inexpensive telecommunications to Africa. He supported the ANC and Nelson Mandela. He also supported Idi Amin and Charles Taylor. If you want to see a accurate depiction of Taylor's drug-addled child-soldier driven reign of terror, watch Dogs of War. In Sudan, former members of Gaddafi's Arab Legion were among the founders/leaders of the Janjaweed, which carried out a genocide in Darfur in the 2000s.

The world is a complex place. Those who occupy the world stage are often complex characters. Gaddafi certainly was....
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Keep us informed on the Libya connection!

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no war in iran until elections, netanyahu is a lolsign
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China seems to be moving its chess pieces around a lot lately. They do not want to lose the US economy off a cliff as their economy is teetering too.

A little war with Japan would help things for the Chinese, but the US sending forces to the dispute forced China to attack the US with cyber sleuths. Worked didnt it?
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China seems to be moving its chess pieces around a lot lately. They do not want to lose the US economy off a cliff as their economy is teetering too.

A little war with Japan would help things for the Chinese, but the US sending forces to the dispute forced China to attack the US with cyber sleuths. Worked didnt it?
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Speaking of that, Chian then let loose the North Korean dogs to threaten nuclear war.

Thanks to O, things will only get worse!


And how could 47 percent of America approve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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no war in iran until elections, netanyahu is a lolsign
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Nother month of Iran collapsing and noone will have to wait, it will come to israel's door!
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This thread still rocks, you all just need to ignore the riff raff and post what you think!

Coming three weeks will be jacked, I am sorry to say!

Good Bye!
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Steve u are so full of shit. Everyone on this thread is spelling out lies and crap fall off and get a life dipshit.... Joking great job... Not you remind me of runny dog shit...

Please own up to this!

Make yourself known!

I have a few surprises in store for you!!!

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Steve u are so full of shit. Everyone on this thread is spelling out lies and crap fall off and get a life dipshit.... Joking great job... Not you remind me of runny dog shit...

Please own up to this!

Make yourself known!

I have a few surprises in store for you!!!

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Writing appears to be that tampon landing piglet whomever she was!
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Steve u are so full of shit. Everyone on this thread is spelling out lies and crap fall off and get a life dipshit.... Joking great job... Not you remind me of runny dog shit...

Please own up to this!

Make yourself known!

I have a few surprises in store for you!!!

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Writing appears to be that tampon landing piglet whomever she was!
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I could only imagine what she really looks like???

angryface
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Steve u are so full of shit. Everyone on this thread is spelling out lies and crap fall off and get a life dipshit.... Joking great job... Not you remind me of runny dog shit...

Please own up to this!

Make yourself known!

I have a few surprises in store for you!!!

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Writing appears to be that tampon landing piglet whomever she was!
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I could only imagine what she really looks like???

angryface
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Hang in there Steve, think of it this way, you have fans!!!

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Steve u are so full of shit. Everyone on this thread is spelling out lies and crap fall off and get a life dipshit.... Joking great job... Not you remind me of runny dog shit...

Please own up to this!

Make yourself known!

I have a few surprises in store for you!!!

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Writing appears to be that tampon landing piglet whomever she was!
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I could only imagine what she really looks like???

angryface
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Hang in there Steve, think of it this way, you have fans!!!

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Thanks bud!

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Writing appears to be that tampon landing piglet whomever she was!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24711263


I could only imagine what she really looks like???

angryface
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Hang in there Steve, think of it this way, you have fans!!!

pump2
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Thanks bud!

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smile_kiss
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This thread is so weird....

News....Opinion....Opinion....Personal Attack....Personal Attack in another language.....Opinion....Welcome Back....News....Opinion....Moms Tallking .... Perv....Welcome Back ... Newbie....News....Opinion....Advice to Newbie....Opinion.... Checking IN.....Opinion....Old Fight (ignored)....Opinion....Spam (removed)....Opinion....News....Psycho-Sexual Personal Attack....

Have I summed up the last week on the thread?

Steve it's the shirtless avatar - it attracts them....

(That's why I turned mine away from the camera)
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This thread is so weird....

News....Opinion....Opinion....Personal Attack....Personal Attack in another language.....Opinion....Welcome Back....News....Opinion....Moms Tallking .... Perv....Welcome Back ... Newbie....News....Opinion....Advice to Newbie....Opinion.... Checking IN.....Opinion....Old Fight (ignored)....Opinion....Spam (removed)....Opinion....News....Psycho-Sexual Personal Attack....

Have I summed up the last week on the thread?

Steve it's the shirtless avatar - it attracts them....

(That's why I turned mine away from the camera)
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occasional pop in from interested lurker.......


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