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Message Subject WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.
Poster Handle DblTapViper
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shouldn't even be waiting anymore
 Quoting: godzilla85


What the military trains its leaders to do is to be decisive, make a decision one way or another, but do not just sit there and do nothing. Of course, acquiring all relevant facts is always an aspect of that decision. In Israel's case, that decision had not been made up to a week or two ago if even then. Waiting is allowing the enemy to better plan and prepare.

I do have to note that the Israeli environment has changed significantly in the last couple weeks. The leaks have stopped. The in-fighting has died out. The military is drilling more and more. They would not do so just for show of force in feint, too costly. The moment is soon to rise over that horizon where action is instituted, but in history books, there will be discussion of the failures to act decisively when the moment requires it - be it in 2008 or 2005 or 2001.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Too Costly. That's the part that keeps me thinking. The war games next week off the coast of Iran... Too Costly. 25 countries showing up with their biggest and strongest.. Too Costly. Britian willing to put at risk their brand new HMS Diamond [link to en.wikipedia.org] Too costly. I could go on and on.

My thinking goes this way, how hard is it to get 25 countries to agree to anything? How hard will it be to have this happen again, after all these ships make for port? How long will it take to build this kind of strength off the coast of Iran?

This just doesn't add up for me. Maybe the decision process has been taken out of Obama's hands, any chance of that MM, Gerry?
 Quoting: DblTapViper


The intent is to keep that Strait open. A timeline was given by someone, be it perhaps Obahmah was not smart enough or his empty chair was all that was present. Someone in the military planned this, maybe far enough out to allow Israel to act on its own accord with the information available. I could see military brass pointing to a calendar and letting Israeli planners know when might be an opportune time to protect itself. When might be a good tie to attack, when might be a good time to not attack.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Very interesting, and it does give Obama plausible deniability with his base... "it's those damn jewish people that started it and then Iran attacked our ships and, and. and, and..."
 
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