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Market Crash Ahead!!! Morgan Stanley Warns A Possible Triple Policy Disappointment; Sees No Policy Boost From US, Europe, Or China

 
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Despite high-flying equity indices, there is some underlying concern that all is not rosy in the global economy (and that Fed/ECB/PBoC might not save the day this time). As Morgan Stanley notes, the overcrowded trades are overweight US and within US overweight defensives – implying cyclicals are starting to reflect the current global macro weakness and that there are further downgrades to global growth forecasts to come. Expectations for a repeat of H2 2011?s surge in positive surprises are misplaced as several unique factors were at play last year – and are very much lacking this year; moreover global growth indicators are significantly weaker than a year ago. With this background, MS also does not expect imminent QE in the US; the Chinese policy response continues to lag expectations; and there are several hurdles to executing ECB action - all of which leave them expecting further substantial downgrades to 2013 consensus earning forecasts in the US.

Bernanke speech at Jackson Hole signaled a delay on QE3

Bernanke:

As I have discussed today, it is also true that nontraditional policies are relatively more difficult to apply, at least given the present state of our knowledge. Estimates of the effects of nontraditional policies on economic activity and inflation are uncertain, and the use of nontraditional policies involves costs beyond those generally associated with more-standard policies. Consequently, the bar for the use of nontraditional policies is higher than for traditional policies. In addition, in the present context, nontraditional policies share the limitations of monetary policy more generally: Monetary policy cannot achieve by itself what a broader and more balanced set of economic policies might achieve; in particular, it cannot neutralize the fiscal and financial risks that the country faces. It certainly cannot fine-tune economic outcomes.


Analysts at Morgan Stanley see 40% chance that German Constitutional court does not ratify ESM

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Analysts at Morgan Stanley see 40% chance that German Constitutional court does not ratify ESM
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Despite high-flying equity indices, there is some underlying concern that all is not rosy in the global economy (and that Fed/ECB/PBoC might not save the day this time). As Morgan Stanley notes, the overcrowded trades are overweight US and within US overweight defensives – implying cyclicals are starting to reflect the current global macro weakness and that there are further downgrades to global growth forecasts to come. Expectations for a repeat of H2 2011?s surge in positive surprises are misplaced as several unique factors were at play last year – and are very much lacking this year; moreover global growth indicators are significantly weaker than a year ago. With this background, MS also does not expect imminent QE in the US; the Chinese policy response continues to lag expectations; and there are several hurdles to executing ECB action - all of which leave them expecting further substantial downgrades to 2013 consensus earning forecasts in the US.

Bernanke speech at Jackson Hole signaled a delay on QE3

Bernanke:

As I have discussed today, it is also true that nontraditional policies are relatively more difficult to apply, at least given the present state of our knowledge. Estimates of the effects of nontraditional policies on economic activity and inflation are uncertain, and the use of nontraditional policies involves costs beyond those generally associated with more-standard policies. Consequently, the bar for the use of nontraditional policies is higher than for traditional policies. In addition, in the present context, nontraditional policies share the limitations of monetary policy more generally: Monetary policy cannot achieve by itself what a broader and more balanced set of economic policies might achieve; in particular, it cannot neutralize the fiscal and financial risks that the country faces. It certainly cannot fine-tune economic outcomes.


Analysts at Morgan Stanley see 40% chance that German Constitutional court does not ratify ESM

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Read full article here: [link to investmentwatchblog.com]
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Morgan Stanley is waving the doom flags, because without another taxpayer handout, they go down...
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They're pulling the plug on the dollar. This should elate the doomtards 5a
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They're pulling the plug on the dollar. This should elate the doomtards 5a
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They're pulling the plug on the dollar. This should elate the doomtards 5a
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Time for more socialists bailouts for the criminal banksters on Wall Street
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Morgan Stanley wants "too big to fail" money, that's why they're crying "the sky is falling, the sky is falling", crooked bastards!!!!!
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GEAB N°66 is available! Red alert / Global systemic crisis – September-October 2012: When the trumpets of Jericho ring out seven times for the world before the crisis

- Public announcement GEAB N°66 (June 19, 2012) -





The progression of world events unfolds in accordance with the anticipations mapped out by LEAP/E2020 during these last few quarters. Euroland has finally come out from its political torpor and short-termism since François Hollande’s election (1) as France’s president and the Greeks have just confirmed their willingness to resolve their problems within Euroland (2) thus contradicting all the Anglo-Saxon media and Euro sceptics’ “forecasts”. From now on, Euroland (in fact the EU minus the United Kingdom) will therefore be able to move forward and create a true project of political integration, economic efficiency and democratization over the 2012-2016 period as LEAP/E2020 anticipated last February (GEAB N°62. It’s positive news but, for the coming six-month periods, this “second Renaissance” of the European project (3) will really be the only good news at world level.
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Rumor is Morgan Stanley is about ready to go down the tubes...


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There there there, poor Economy.


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Canada - The "Unseen Crisis" will trigger collapse...

The Schedule of the "UNSEEN" Crisis.

4 September 2012 - Separatist PQ win the PQ election and form a Government (Now Near Certainty).

Talk abounds of new referendum about staying in Canada.
Massive capital flight occurs form Quebec.

6th September 2012 - Quebec stocks fall causing growing concern over Quebec companies including property companies.

Massive flight to sell Quebec real estate begins.

Banks seize up loaning to buyers in grossly over-inflated real estate across Canada.

Massive "offers" made by overleveraged property companies to shift unfilled over-priced condos drives prices down super-fast.

Condo-occupiers take the hint and dump their condos are on the market adding to melt down

First big collapses take place amongst property redevelopers in Quebec begins to spread across Canada.

"The party's over" spirit begins to spread across Canada.

Stock Indexes begins to fall sharply in Toronto.

Problems begin to spread across Canada as all real estate financing grinds to a halt in fear.

Hyper-fast collapse in grossly overleveraged Canadian real estate market

Bad figures come out for big Canadian companies.

People talk about housing crisis and end of the recovery.

anic from Canada and slumping INdexes in the "one stable country" begins to spread to US markets

Stock indexes slumps turn into panic.

Obama spouts off stuff about "more stimulus"

Disaster on US Bond Market

Dollar collapse.

TOTAL MARKET MELTDOWN.
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Canada - The "Unseen Crisis" will trigger collapse...

The Schedule of the "UNSEEN" Crisis.

4 September 2012 - Separatist PQ win the PQ election and form a Government (Now Near Certainty).

Talk abounds of new referendum about staying in Canada.
Massive capital flight occurs form Quebec.

6th September 2012 - Quebec stocks fall causing growing concern over Quebec companies including property companies.

Massive flight to sell Quebec real estate begins.

Banks seize up loaning to buyers in grossly over-inflated real estate across Canada.

Massive "offers" made by overleveraged property companies to shift unfilled over-priced condos drives prices down super-fast.

Condo-occupiers take the hint and dump their condos are on the market adding to melt down

First big collapses take place amongst property redevelopers in Quebec begins to spread across Canada.

"The party's over" spirit begins to spread across Canada.

Stock Indexes begins to fall sharply in Toronto.

Problems begin to spread across Canada as all real estate financing grinds to a halt in fear.

Hyper-fast collapse in grossly overleveraged Canadian real estate market

Bad figures come out for big Canadian companies.

People talk about housing crisis and end of the recovery.

anic from Canada and slumping INdexes in the "one stable country" begins to spread to US markets

Stock indexes slumps turn into panic.

Obama spouts off stuff about "more stimulus"

Disaster on US Bond Market

Dollar collapse.

TOTAL MARKET MELTDOWN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22339992


where did you picked that from? im in montreal lol. might be time to gtfo. lmao.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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I wonder if it could be this weekend, being a long weekend?...


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GEAB N°66 is available! Red alert / Global systemic crisis – September-October 2012: When the trumpets of Jericho ring out seven times for the world before the crisis

- Public announcement GEAB N°66 (June 19, 2012) -





The progression of world events unfolds in accordance with the anticipations mapped out by LEAP/E2020 during these last few quarters. Euroland has finally come out from its political torpor and short-termism since François Hollande’s election (1) as France’s president and the Greeks have just confirmed their willingness to resolve their problems within Euroland (2) thus contradicting all the Anglo-Saxon media and Euro sceptics’ “forecasts”. From now on, Euroland (in fact the EU minus the United Kingdom) will therefore be able to move forward and create a true project of political integration, economic efficiency and democratization over the 2012-2016 period as LEAP/E2020 anticipated last February (GEAB N°62. It’s positive news but, for the coming six-month periods, this “second Renaissance” of the European project (3) will really be the only good news at world level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13926736


Seems the LEAP hommes are a bit too smug. Did I not read above there is a 40% chance the German high court will nix a German bailout of its southern neighbors. If that happens, Greece can decide whatever it wants, but the German taxpayer will not be footing their bill.
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If they want Romney then they will probably tank the markets soon, establish the proper bailout order from the get go.
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I wonder if it could be this weekend, being a long weekend?...



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holy funk its jsnip4 that man speaks with truth clappa

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