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I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars

 
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I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
Just wondering what this all means.I thought jewish people were God's chosen people,but some say they are not.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
[link to www.iahushua.com]
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Thanks for the link.So they're babylonian mongoloids who worship phallic symbols?That sounds like freemasons.Are they connected?bump
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Thanks for the link.So they're babylonian mongoloids who worship phallic symbols?That sounds like freemasons.Are they connected?bump
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read the protocols of zion. they have adopted gentile masonry as the face of their cabal. this puts an iron curtain around them.
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Thanks for the link.So they're babylonian mongoloids who worship phallic symbols?That sounds like freemasons.Are they connected?bump
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I don't think so.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
The semantic (sons of shem) jewish people have lived in palestine since the beginning of time, the ashkenazi come from Europe, I think in the area now known as the Ukraine when the king converted the country to Judaism or so it is said but the askhkenazi argue they are from the same lineage but migrated.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
Khazar story is just a lie to divert blame to a few j-ews instead of the tribe.

Ashkenazi is just a sub group of the Jewish tribe defined by where they were born and their ancestry.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
ashkenazis are not jewish people by lineage, as far as I understand. They moved from one area to another and then adopted Judaism long ago, calling themselves jewish people/Hebrews. They are scientifically documented through DNA tests, they are not a conspiracy theory as some people say. There is loads of information on the internet and a really good book about it, but I don't know the name. A little research will provide you with a lot of information. Just search it in GLP and you will have some good leads.

Also, think about the implications of this. What have the Ashkenazis been historically documented as? How many Christians support Israel because they believe in God's chosen people having the right to their own land? What does that mean, if in fact, the LEADERS of Israel are Askenazis? How would this change the way Christians perceive global politics after digesting this information?

This subject is extremely significant and relevant. Do yourself a favor and dig deep into it.
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Lets try and get this straight,

There are two main streams of Hebrews, the Askenazi (eastern European) and the Sephadi (Spanis and Portugese)

The Sephadim were kicked out of Spain by Ferdinand and Isobella and wandered through North Africa, the Levant and northern Europe (My family ended up in UK about 300 Years ago)

The Askenazi are those from eastern Europe , the Pale of Settlement and the Baltic states.

The Khazars are supposedly a Cossack tribe from the Urals who adopted Judaism to avoid military service under the Czars, they numbered in the lower hundreds.

The Khazar myth has now been blown up into a huge propaganda exercise by those who feel they need an excuse to hate.

'Zionism' is a yearning to return home to the promised land that has been part of Judaism for millennia. In the 1880's it was politicized by Herzle and his cronies as a desire to set up a socialist Jewish state.

The British supported and encouraged political Zionism as a way of creating a buffer state between Russia and India. Hence the Balfour declaration of 1917 ratified in 1922 under the British Mandate for Palestine.

However the geopolitic changed to oil and Arabism became important so the ever perfidious Albion jumped ship on Zionism and started to support Arab causes....

So we end up with United Nations resolution 181 of 1947 partitioning the land between the Arabs and the Israelis. i.e. the two state solution, which was rejected by the Arabs who mounted a military invasion of Israel and lost.
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Lets try and get this straight,

There are two main streams of Hebrews, the Askenazi (eastern European) and the Sephadi (Spanis and Portugese)

The Sephadim were kicked out of Spain by Ferdinand and Isobella and wandered through North Africa, the Levant and northern Europe (My family ended up in UK about 300 Years ago)

The Askenazi are those from eastern Europe , the Pale of Settlement and the Baltic states.

The Khazars are supposedly a Cossack tribe from the Urals who adopted Judaism to avoid military service under the Czars, they numbered in the lower hundreds.

The Khazar myth has now been blown up into a huge propaganda exercise by those who feel they need an excuse to hate.

'Zionism' is a yearning to return home to the promised land that has been part of Judaism for millennia. In the 1880's it was politicized by Herzle and his cronies as a desire to set up a socialist Jewish state.

The British supported and encouraged political Zionism as a way of creating a buffer state between Russia and India. Hence the Balfour declaration of 1917 ratified in 1922 under the British Mandate for Palestine.

However the geopolitic changed to oil and Arabism became important so the ever perfidious Albion jumped ship on Zionism and started to support Arab causes....

So we end up with United Nations resolution 181 of 1947 partitioning the land between the Arabs and the Israelis. i.e. the two state solution, which was rejected by the Arabs who mounted a military invasion of Israel and lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22945405


Educating one's self often leads them out of hate not into it. If hate was there before the education, it may grow if propaganda is the information a person educates themselves with. If you understand Western Christianity's "mentality", then you would understand why not knowing this information promotes hate for other cultural groups. I don't claim to know much about this subject (tried to make sure that was understood in my previous post), but I know enough to not profess blind allegiance to a country I live in or one I don't even live near for that matter!!
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The Khazars were not a mythical people.

They were a real ethnic group who had an empire in far Eastern Europe hundreds of years ago. The modern city of Kazan in Russia was at that time home to the Volga Bulgarians who were neighbors of the Khazars, so Google Kazan and you''ll get a general idea of where the Khazars came from...

They were stuck between two growing empires - the Christian Byzantines and the Moslem Arabs, so the decided to become jewish people. They eventually became part of the Russian Empire and would probably be forgotten (like the Volga Bulgarians) except in the late 1800s the Czar's secret police wrote an anti-Jewish propaganda piece called the Protocols of the Elders of Zion that discussed a conspiracy hatched by the Khazars....

Some people accuse blue-eyed blonde jewish people of being Khazars; however, DNA research has shown that most modern people from that part of the world (Tatars, Mari-El, Chuvash) are descended from Persians. They are usually fair with Brown hair & green eyes. Everyone knows blue-eyed blonde jewish people had grandmothers who were raped by the Cossacks...
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The Jewish community has been the focus of extensive genetic study over the past decade in an attempt to better understand the origins of this group. In particular, those descended from Northwestern and Eastern European Jewish groups, known as “Ashkenazim,” have been the subject of numerous DNA studies examining both the Y chromosome and mitochondrial genetic evidence.



The focus of the present study is to analyze and reassess Ashkenazi results obtained by DNA researchers and synthesize them into a coherent picture of Jewish genetics, interweaving historical evidence in order to obtain a more accurate depiction of the complex genetic history of this group. Many of the DNA studies on Ashkenazim fail to adequately address the complexity of the genetic evidence, in particular, the significant genetic contribution of European and Central Asian peoples in the makeup of the contemporary Ashkenazi population. One important contribution to Ashkenazi DNA appears to have originated with the Khazars, an ancient people of probable Central Asian stock that lived in southern Russia during the 8th-12th centuries CE. Significant inflow of genes from European host populations over the centuries is also supported by the DNA evidence. The present study analyzes not only the Middle Eastern component of Ashkenazi ancestry, but also the genetic contribution from European and Central Asian sources that appear to have had an important impact on Ashkenazi ancestry.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
Christians who read their bibles understand that Yah has not turned his back on the Hebrew people, and that the destiny of the Hebrews is to be there at the end.

Non bible centred Christianity tends to practise "replacement" theology, which is the idea that their God is now 'Christian' having changed his allegiance.

The hard left and the extreme right have always hated Hebrews and have coined the phrase "anti-zionist" to try to camouflage their spots.

To be Jewish is to learn to take the knocks and the hard words quietly and without fuss. The ultra-rich bank community are as remote from the average Hebrew in the street as the Hollywood elite are from most Americans.
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Thanks for all the info folks.I've been researching online.One specific question.Is there any difference between an Askenazi and a Khazar and do they have any semitic blood in them or are they fkae jewish people.The bible talks about those that say they are jewish people and are not,but rather the synagogue of satan.Thanks.
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The Khazars were not a mythical people.

They were a real ethnic group who had an empire in far Eastern Europe hundreds of years ago. The modern city of Kazan in Russia was at that time home to the Volga Bulgarians who were neighbors of the Khazars, so Google Kazan and you''ll get a general idea of where the Khazars came from...

They were stuck between two growing empires - the Christian Russians and the Moslem Turks, so the decided to become jewish people. They eventually became part of the Russian Empire and would probably be forgotten (like the Volga Bulgarians) except in the late 1800s the Czar's secret police wrote an anti-Jewish propaganda piece called the Protocols of the Elders of Zion that discussed a conspiracy hatched by the Khazars....

Some people accuse blue-eyed blonde jewish people of being Khazars; however, DNA research has shown that most modern people from that part of the world (Tatars, Mari-El, Chuvash) are descended from Persians. They are usually fair with Brown hair & green eyes. Everyone knows blue-eyed blonde jewish people had grandmothers who were raped by the Cossacks...
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You were doing pretty good until you started slandering the Tsar with the old carnard that he ordered his secret police to concoct the Protocols when if fact they read like a history of the 20th century in so far as being a step by step plan for one group of immoral frauds to take over the rest of humanity.

If one goes by the Book, God supposedly promised Palestine to the descendants of Abraham, that is the Mizrahis, Christians and Moslems who lived in peace in the Holy Land until the Khazar Ashkenazis showed up and started murdering anyone who was living anywhere they wanted to settle.

And they are doing it to this day.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
Thanks for all the info folks.I've been researching online.One specific question.Is there any difference between an Askenazi and a Khazar and do they have any semitic blood in them or are they fkae jewish people.The bible talks about those that say they are jewish people and are not,but rather the synagogue of satan.Thanks.
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Bingo. You got it - synagogue of satan.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
ashkenazis are not jewish people by lineage, as far as I understand. They moved from one area to another and then adopted Judaism long ago, calling themselves jewish people/Hebrews. They are scientifically documented through DNA tests, they are not a conspiracy theory as some people say. There is loads of information on the internet and a really good book about it, but I don't know the name. A little research will provide you with a lot of information. Just search it in GLP and you will have some good leads.

Also, think about the implications of this. What have the Ashkenazis been historically documented as? How many Christians support Israel because they believe in God's chosen people having the right to their own land? What does that mean, if in fact, the LEADERS of Israel are Askenazis? How would this change the way Christians perceive global politics after digesting this information?

This subject is extremely significant and relevant. Do yourself a favor and dig deep into it.
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The book is The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler who was yet another Ashkenazi Holocaust survivor who researched and wrote the book in order to dispel the "blood libel" that Jwes were responsible for the murder of Christ. He argued that since the Ashkenazi were not descended from the original Jewish people but from Khazar converts they were innocent of that particular accusation and more common knowledge of this would serve to dispel irrational Christian hatred of them.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
I think your reference to "synagogue of Satan" is a quote out of context, You will find that the GREEK word synagogue means "meeting place" (a synagogue or a church), In the context of the time (about 80 AD) this was referring to the 'church' at Syrna, so we are talking about believers in Jesus here!
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ashkenazi and khazars are converts. They decided life would be better if they "became" gods chosen ones. This doesnt count. The Torah states god must return to give the Israelis their land back. Since this has not happened yet this doesnt count either.
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Re: I'm' confused what's the difference between jewish people and ashkenazi and khazars
The jewish people of the Askenazim were resident in the Eastern Roman empire around Constantinople, and moved to Russia along with their Orthadox brothers and ended up in the Russias. No Khazars, just fear of persecution.

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