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Judethz
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Not that any of this BS really matters...sunnysmile

...because once the missiles start flying the USA is in it up to it's neck, whether it likes it or not. Nobody betrays Israel and just walks.


DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis September 1, 2012,

Putin gave Obama more time US Gen. Martin Dempsey’s assertion Thursday, Aug. 30 that the US would not be “complicit” in an Israel strike against Iran, together with the drastic reduction in the scale of next month’s joint US-Israeli war game disclosed by TIME, add up to a blunt message from US President Barack Obama to Israel: You are on your own! See how you manage without special US weapons and US military backup, including a shield against missile counter-attack, if you decide to defy us and go through with a military operation against Iran.

debkafile’s military sources: The Obama administration has put Israel on harsh notice that an attack on Iran to disrupt or delay its nuclear armament will be refused US missile backup - both in the course of the operation and to cover Israel’s back in the event of a counter-strike widening into a general Middle East conflict. The Netanyahu government will bear full and exclusive responsibility for the consequences of attacking Iran.

Obama, who has repeatedly pledged his commitment to Israeli security, is the first American president to cut Israeli adrift against a major threat to its security explicitly posed by Iran.

In the last month, Obama has undergone a change of face: The top US soldier and ambassador Dan Shapiro were told to start treating Israel like a pest and telling its leaders that the administration is fed to the teeth with their clamor for action on Iran.

This change did not come out of the blue. debkafile’s Washington and Moscow sources report it evolved from three events:
1. During this month, President Vladimir Putin severed Russia’s military ties with Iran and Syria as debkafile reported earlier: Obama reciprocated by cutting Israel down to size. Moscow informed Tehran and Damascus that there would be no more Russian arms supplies after the delivery of the last items in the pipeline. Putin therefore left both Iran and Syria high and dry amid war dangers in return for Obama cutting Israel off from advance military hardware at a time of peril.
The Russian and American leaders thus put in place the first bricks of an accord for resolving their disputes over a nuclear Iran and the Syrian crisis by the device of slashing the military capacity of Iran, Israel and Syria.
The Russian president took another step as a gesture to Obama: He pulled Russian warships out of the Syrian base of Tartus and the eastern Mediterranean, leaving only a floating dry dock.
In return, he counted on Washington forcing Israel to abandon any plans to strike Iran.
2. But this exercise in symmetrical reciprocity ran into a major snag: Obama found a tough nut in Jerusalem: Binyamin Netanyahu held out for a pledge of US military action against Iran as his price for holding back. Despite the massive pressure Obama threw at the Israeli government, both through the highest ranking US political and military channels and by mobilizing the government’s most vocal opponents and anti-war circles at home, Netanyahu and Barak did not budge.
They understood, despite Obama’s concealment, that the secret US-Russian deal would in fact preserve Iran’s nuclear program at a point at which Iran’s leaders could have a weapon assembled and unsheathed at any moment.
The also realized that as long as Israel’s military option against Iran was alive, the Obama-Putin deal was stuck, because both Iran’s Ali Khamenei and Syria’s Bashar Assad would likewise refuse to fall into line.

When Romney said he would give America’s friends “more loyalty” and Putin “a little less flexibility and more backbone,” he was referring to President Obama’s request from Putin on June 18, at the G20 conference in Mexico, for more time against his promise to the Russian leader of “more flexibility” later.
To keep his deal with Putin in motion, the US president will have to tighten his squeeze on Israel’s leaders to forego an attack on Iran.

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My god the us is getting smarter!

Iran is a third world country i don't understand all the fuss about it.

So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.

Just nations taunting each other threatening each other bla bla bla for years and years bla bla bla oh the isreahell iran war oh it will happen in 2000 then 2001 then 2002 then bla bla bla bla


And meanwhile it's 2012 bla bla bla.

And not single war anywhere in the world.

blahblah


blahblah


blahblah

blahblah
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Another israhell is not eternal GOD the Almighty is Eternal.

Just to get things straight.
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And meanwhile it's 2012 bla bla bla.

And not single war anywhere in the world.

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happysmile You took the red pill didn't you. sheep
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Sounds like Obama and Putin have knowledge of the New Jerusalem calendar and have command over the Rothschild moon calendar jewish people and Iranian islam calendar people.


Sat Aug 6/16/12

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The God Jesus New Jerusalem calendar people are real Israel.

Just so you know
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I bet they number in their millions.. tounge
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The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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This is a save face thing they are going to strike Israel will strike soon and Obama will use it in his election as the savoir... Than when the right attacks him or someone attacks about going into Iran they can say hey we were against...


All the military power that is sitting there now says they support Israel... this is is insurance to play for political theater...
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US disowns Israel over Iran strike: No weapons or military backup

Praise The Lord!!!!
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Good news! Thanks, O/P.
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I bet they number in their millions.. tounge
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How many Christians think the moon jew muslim war is crazy?

:)

Probably millions if not billions. That is why they both just got cut off.



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My god the us is getting smarter!

Iran is a third world country i don't understand all the fuss about it.

So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.

Just nations taunting each other threatening each other bla bla bla for years and years bla bla bla oh the isreahell iran war oh it will happen in 2000 then 2001 then 2002 then bla bla bla bla


And meanwhile it's 2012 bla bla bla.

And not single war anywhere in the world.

blahblah


blahblah


blahblah

blahblah
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Mr. Idiot,
Iran is not a third world nation.
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Not that any of this BS really matters...:sunnysmile:

...because one the missiles start flying the USA is in it up to it's neck whether it likes it or not. Nobody betrays Israel and just walks.




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More threats from the Jeeeeeuuuuuzzzzzzz

How nice.

They're such warm and cuddly peeple.
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Sounds like Obama and Putin have knowledge of the New Jerusalem calendar and have command over the Rothschild moon calendar jewish people and Iranian islam calendar people.
 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


kitty Thank you Russ, but the occasional post is quite enough.

blackcat Thanks for the pin mods.

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Sounds like Obama and Putin have knowledge of the New Jerusalem calendar and have command over the Rothschild moon calendar jewish people and Iranian islam calendar people.


Sat Aug 6/16/12
 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


Just to annoy the kosher sex pervert.
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This is a save face thing they are going to strike Israel will strike soon and Obama will use it in his election as the savoir... Than when the right attacks him or someone attacks about going into Iran they can say hey we were against...


All the military power that is sitting there now says they support Israel... this is is insurance to play for political theater...
 Quoting: FATMANGOBOOM

grizzy Basically I was thinking something along those lines. But whatever else they are the Arabs aren't completely stupid

and I reckon that this is one pork pie that they won't be buying.
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My god the us is getting smarter!

Iran is a third world country i don't understand all the fuss about it.

So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.

Just nations taunting each other threatening each other bla bla bla for years and years bla bla bla oh the isreahell iran war oh it will happen in 2000 then 2001 then 2002 then bla bla bla bla


And meanwhile it's 2012 bla bla bla.

And not single war anywhere in the world.

blahblah


blahblah


blahblah

blahblah
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


The USA cannot disown Israel,Israel owns America and is fully in control of every part of government,thats a fact.

Iran on the other hand is not a 3rd world country,they have a high standard of living over there and are a nuclear power of the non weapon kind,Iran is only a danger to Israel,thats their problem,but as they own America they make Iran an American problem.

debka a proven bullshit website.
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So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
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So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
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Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
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So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
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Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
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Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
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Fucking good. Israel can go fuck themselves as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
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Not that any of this BS really matters...

...because one the missiles start flying the USA is in it up to it's neck whether it likes it or not. Nobody betrays Israel and just walks.
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Is this a statement, warning or a threat Judethz?

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Zionist bitch thread yet again get pinned wtf
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Great thread OP, my good friend!

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Not that any of this BS really matters...

...because one the missiles start flying the USA is in it up to it's neck whether it likes it or not. Nobody betrays Israel and just walks.
 Quoting: Judethz



Is this a statement, warning or a threat Judethz?
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Its the truth!!!
DUST TO GLORY!!!
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Waaaa waaaaa just more jewish hissy fit war mongering.

I don't know why they bother with their bullshit anymore, the world sees them as a joke.
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It doesn't matter who fucks with the US, whether it is Russia, China, or Israel. It all ends in 200 Minuteman III's on their way to say hello.
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Great thread OP, my good friend!

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Then move there if you love them so much, GTFO.
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Great thread OP, my good friend!

:cross76:



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They STAND WITH ISRAEL, but only at a safe distance.

Like about 9,000 miles or so.
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I have friends in both Iran and Israel amongst other places as well and I can say that the general population..the Moms, Dads, Kids etc just want to go about their daily lives,eat, sleep, fuck and be happy just like the rest of us..

This is a politicians war and not one of the people of these countries (excluding of course the extremists which exist in every nation).

To simply pile all the citizens of a nation into a narrow political view is both naive and ignorant but of course such prejudice exists in all nations.

Time to take the "hate hat" off and stay focused on the political/military machines and leave Mom & Pop Iranian out of the collective argument as they, just like in the USA and Canada will be the only ones that end up suffering the end results of this gamesmanship.
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How does Obama plan to win the election with this kind of attitude ?

If BiBi decides to attack Iran before the elections and Obama doesn't help Israel...he will make Jimmy Carter look like the best president in US history !

I'm a foreigner, yes, but from what I learned of US history, this is unprecedented !

I don't care for Romney very much either but after reading this I sure hope he wins in November !
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So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899251


Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
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please goose step off a cliff and do everyone a favour you sick nazi fucker.

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