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Shamar

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Haven't read through all the pages, but I don't think the man-made (albeit God's allowing it) creation of the physical state of Israel and/or Jerusalem is scriptural. I think that this is all a ruse being used by the adversary.

Netanyahu seems to be a good fellow, but with the desire to "eradicate" people who don't think and believe as them (edomites)- there's a problem here. And the ones in control in Israel currently, are a part of adversary's agenda.....they are not true Torah followers.

When the 12 tribes are returned to the land it will be by a miraculous method -- the second GREATER Exodus, worked through the Most High, and not by force of man through war and violent methods.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

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Obama has yet to present a credible military threat to deter Iran from seeking nuclear weapons: Netanyahu

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if true..then the end is near...WHY?

BIBLE PROPHECY -- "I will make JERUSALEM a cup of trembling unto all the people round about ... And in that day will I make JERUSALEM a burdensome stone for all people ..." [Zechariah 12:2-3; "In that day" refers to End of the Age

uuhh...if were pulling out...can we have that 100 billion back..we got some homeless peeps in detroit and other places that if we could find some real americans we could trust could use that cash to help americans..americans for the real down an out americans..

ONLY TRUSTED AMERICANS IF THAT CAN BE TRUSTED...?

Guess with that much cash I could not not trust myself..so..
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Haven't read through all the pages, but I don't think the man-made (albeit God's allowing it) creation of the physical state of Israel and/or Jerusalem is scriptural. I think that this is all a ruse being used by the adversary.

 Quoting: Shamar


blinker Make no mistake about it, it's scriptural all right.

Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut [the womb]? saith thy God.
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Obama has yet to present a credible military threat to deter Iran from seeking nuclear weapons: Netanyahu

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It is because Iran is not a threat to America.

They said all of this same bullshit about Iraq in 2003... and that turned out to be a Zionazi lie... just like this is.

Israel is the threat to world peace, not Iran.

I am actually worried about the people of Israel because if Netenyahu goes ahead with this crazy plan, a lot of innocent non-Zionist jewish people are going to get killed.

Iran is tougher than the western media claims.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

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This is a save face thing they are going to strike Israel will strike soon and Obama will use it in his election as the savoir... Than when the right attacks him or someone attacks about going into Iran they can say hey we were against...


All the military power that is sitting there now says they support Israel... this is is insurance to play for political theater...
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I wish it weren't but, this ^^^^^^
This is all a joke!!
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I am afraid the Muslim religion is doomed for destruction. They need to get their people converted to New Jerusalem Christianity.


Sat Aug 6/16/12
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EErr..Russ? What is Boxing day?

DEC 10/1-9 ---- FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS CHRISTMAS, BOXING DAY
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According to my Bible, salvation is of the jewish people

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the jewish people.

 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


Finish the verse?
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Haven't read through all the pages, but I don't think the man-made (albeit God's allowing it) creation of the physical state of Israel and/or Jerusalem is scriptural. I think that this is all a ruse being used by the adversary.

 Quoting: Shamar


:blinker: Make no mistake about it, it's scriptural all right.

Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut [the womb]? saith thy God.

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I pray to God that I am allowed to watch, on the day that you find out that there really IS a God.

Because he is gonna have some fun with you, Morty.
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So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.
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What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
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Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
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The number is staggering - simply astronomical.


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I don't understand what this sentence means on the thread " Putin gave
Obama more time US Gen.Martin Dempsey’s assertion Thursday" .

What did Putin give Obama more time to do? And how does Putin control what time Obama has to do it?
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EErr..Russ? What is Boxing day?

DEC 10/1-9 ---- FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS CHRISTMAS, BOXING DAY
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The day after Christmas where you clean up from your parties and box everything up.


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It is because Iran is not a threat to America.

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kitty There can only be one 'King of the Hill' in the Middle East. Either Iran or America. Or so goes the thinking in Washington and Tehran anyway.
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It is because Iran is not a threat to America.

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kitty There can only be one 'King of the Hill' in the Middle East. Either Iran or Israel. Or so goes the thinking in Jerusalem and Tehran anyway.
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Fixed!
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So even if it got a few nukes the rest of the world has enough nukes to blow the surface of the planet 5 times...

But it would be a good thing if israhell finally did something against iran so there will be doom again.

It's a so boringly quiet on the international scene.
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899251


Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
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The number is staggering - simply astronomical.


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Between homo-isim, birth control and inherited genetic diseases due to inbreeding, "Jewish problem" will solve itself within the next 50 years.

Probably sooner.

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Haven't read through all the pages, but I don't think the man-made (albeit God's allowing it) creation of the physical state of Israel and/or Jerusalem is scriptural. I think that this is all a ruse being used by the adversary.

 Quoting: Shamar


blinker Make no mistake about it, it's scriptural all right.

Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut [the womb]? saith thy God.

 Quoting: Judethz


It's scriptural, but it hasn't happened yet......it is still in the workshf
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Brief was last seen cryin in his beer....
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bsflag

OP is a Mossad shill

The Jewnited States biggest foreign aid recepient is Israel (most of that aid goes directly to their military)

Not to mention Obama signed off on a 70 million anti missle defense system for Israel

[link to abcnews.go.com]

Try again
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The OP has abandoned her own thread. Since it is apparent that the majority of us disagree with her view she just could not stand it. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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I have read several times that the OP is actually a he. Some of his barbaric comments on other threads suggest this is the truth.
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Really, I find that information very interesting. It sure explains the pictures of sexy, young, Japanese women that the OP uses as propaganda.
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Actually OP is female. All Jew_s are but the ones born with a penis are so horrified by its presence they immediately try to amputate it.
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Judaism is based on two gigantic lies: 1.) that Judaism is the religion of the Old Testament, and 2.) that the Jewish people are the Israelites of the Bible. Contrary to Judaism’s public claims about its own origins, the fact is that many rabbis, Jewish historians and encyclopedias admit that the true basis of Judaism is not the Bible at all. The true source of Jewish theology is the Talmud.

The Talmud is a mere collection of commentaries on the Bible and other subjects. The rabbis claim that the Talmud is the “oral tradition” of Moses, which was supposedly passed down by “Jewish scribes.” Who these people were, the rabbis cannot say. It is a myth. There was no such tradition. The idea is nothing but rabbinical invention, for the purpose of elevating themselves above the very Scriptures they pretend to uphold. The “oral tradition” is the best explanation the rabbis have for this false tradition. Deut. 4:2 explicitly states that no person has the authority to contradict the written Law of Moses. Hence, any commentaries, which claim to have authority over the written laws of the Bible, are fraudulent, by the Bible’s own standards. The fact is that the Talmud contradicts virtually every law that Moses recorded, so the Talmud is nothing but a mountain of lies heaped up against Scripture. Despite public pronouncements declaring Judaism’s faithfulness to the Torah, in the eyes of the Jewish rabbi, the Talmud supercedes the Torah. This is why Yahshua condemns rabbinism as “the tradition of the elders” which makes “the law of none effect.” (Matthew 15:6 & all of chapter 23.)

The ethnicity of the Jewish people is also a matter of deception. The Bible is clearly written to a specific group of people, whom Yahweh refers to as His “chosen.” The Chosen People are clearly identified in Scripture by their appearance, characteristics, historical exploits and prophetic achievements. The fact is that the Jewish people fit absolutely none of these identifying marks.

The Israelites were repeatedly told to remain separate and aloof from all other races and cultures. Contrary to this dictum, the jewish people have always insinuated themselves into other peoples lands, having never built a city or country of their own. Like the cuckoo bird, the jewish people nest in other people’s nests. The Israelites were warned repeatedly that, should they fraternize with other races and cultures, they would lose the very “choseness” by which He had jealously guarded them. “Learn not the way of the heathen” is the Biblical command. The Israelites were forbidden to circumcise non-Israelites. This was true from Jacob down to the Maccabees, who refused to circumcise non-Israelites. Contrary to the law of separation, the jewish people have always taken converts of all races. This is why the jewish people are the most miscegenated people on the face of the earth. As you will see from the evidence presented herein, this fact automatically disqualifies them as Yahweh’s chosen.

All Jewish scholars admit that up to 95% of modern jewish people are a non-Shemitic people, namely the Ashkenazi branch of Jewry, which is descended from the Khazar nation, which CONVERTED to Judaism around 740 AD. These Khazars have never had a single Hebrew, Israelite or Shemitic ancestor. Hence, this branch of Jewry has no right to claim Israelite ancestry, much less the land of Palestine.

The other five percent of modern jewish people are of Sephardic ancestry. These people are also non-Israelites, but they are the originators of the religion called Judaism. It was the scribes and Pharisees who originated Talmudic doctrine just before the days of Jesus Christ. The New Testament provides ample proof that their doctrine and ethnicity are suspect. The four Gospels condemn their religion on every page, but few Christians are aware of this, because the theology of Judeo-Christianity has withheld this information from them and because most Christians don’t read their Bibles, except for the verses selected for them by their Judaized priesthood.

Although the Pharisees began as a Judahite cult during the Maccabean era, the tides of war began to influence their loyalty to Israel. Successive invasions of the land of Judah, which was a racially homogenous nation, divided the nation into sects of dubious loyalty. The Maccabees were the most loyal to the Hebrew traditions, and they maintained their ethnic and theological purity until King John Hyrcanus violated the Mosaic Law by circumcising the males of Idumea. This event occurred in the year 121 BC. These Idumeans were the racially mixed descendants of Esau, the perpetual enemy of Judah and Israel. By circumcising these Edomites and incorporating them into the nation of Judah, Hyrcanus opened the floodgates to subversion by these Edomites.

This subversion began with Antipater, the “advisor” of John Hyrcanus. As part of his subversive activities, Antipater also financed the Roman occupation of Judea, having bribed Julius Caesar for the favor of installing his son, Herod, as the governor of Galilee. The Judahite historian, Josephus, records all of this treachery in his books, The Antiquities of Judah and The Wars of Judah. Scholars have been duped into believing that the works of Josephus are the works of the “jewish people.” But Josephus clearly distinguishes between the true Judahites versus the invading Edomites. Once the reader is aware that an impersonation is going on, the text becomes immediately clear. Josephus has documented all of the treachery of the Edomites against True Judah. This is the main theme of the “Antiquities,” especially regarding the activities of Antipater, Herod, and the brief Herodian dynasty which lasted until 70 AD. It was the Edomite Herodians, in partnership with the largely Edomite sect of the Pharisees, who executed Christ.

As Josephus records, after Herod assassinated the last true Judahite King of Judah, Hyrcanus II, he assassinated the entire Sanhedrin and replaced them with his Edomite cronies. This “reconstituted” Sanhedrin, which contained a smattering of Judahites, such as Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea, was, in fact, an alien outfit, created by Herod to impose Herod’s pagan religion upon the people of Judah. These historical facts provide an entirely different perspective on the events of the four Gospels. This explains why Herod and the Pharisees were so hostile to Jesus. They were NOT His kinsmen. “Ye are not My sheep,” Jesus told them. They were usurpers who fully understood that Yahshua was the true claimant to the throne of Judah. Yahshua exposed their treachery at every turn, but modern Judeo-Christian scholarship simply ignores the historical record in favor of the “gospel of personal salvation,” or “the gospel of prosperity,” while eschewing the historical significance of the four Gospels.

Once all of these facts are known, it becomes abundantly clear that the religion of Judaism is an Edomite religion masquerading as Israelite religion. And the Jewish people are non-Israelites masquerading as Israel. The Bible itself predicted that all of this would happen. For proof of this, please see my essay, “The Marks of Israel,” which documents the prophesied and fulfilled exploits of the children of Israel, who are today’s Caucasian Race.

The Edomites of the Bible are the jewish people of today. By their own admission: “Edom is in modern Jewry.” – Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905 edition.

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Link to the "The Marks of Israel" please, thanks.
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[link to www.truedemocracy.net]
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Cool, thank you!
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OK, well I went through and read a lot of the stuff up at that website. I've read lots of this stuff over the years, and in one way it looks to be true, but in other ways it does not.

I was just bumping around and came across this video. There are a lot more like it that all lead to the same conclusion:



If what's said in that video and from other sources is true, then either Europeans are Israel and the Jewish people are who they say they are or we're all part of the wrong bloodline, no?

You know, there is actually so much information from every direction, from everyone wanting to be the lost "Israel", that you cannot tell what's true and what is not.

When I read the info from truedemocracy.net as well as other places, it looks really good and the writers do make it look as though the Europeans are Israel. But when I think about it, it could also be the Africans as well. A lot of this nation, as well as Europe itself was built on the backs of the slaves. That would make them a blessing to those nations, would it not?

I'm still not sold one way or another! I do believe the "false" chosen people of G-d are running the World, that's a fact. But that also doesn't mean that there are not true Jewish people in there with them as well.

Anyway, I'm still open for more research and learning.

Peace!
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What a fucking idiot... You're bored so you'd like to see the nukes start going off just so you'd have some doom to spice up your pathetic, miserable life? I've seen some idiots in my time but you top them all...

They don't give a shit if they all die. They've already stated they want to destroy Israel no matter if it means the end of them just to they can usher in the Mahdi.

I hope to God Israel can hold out till Romney gets into power so we can get back to the position we've always had toward our only real ally in the Middle East and the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899251


Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22849263


Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
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You need to get a grip you deluded idiot. God gave earth to the people, He didn't particularly keep one section of it for the jewish people.

Iran, please hurry up and finish these fuckers off.
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On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi[a] of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates— the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.” Genesis 15:18-22

God gave that land to the Jewish people, dumbass, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22849263


Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899251


You need to get a grip you deluded idiot. God gave earth to the people, He didn't particularly keep one section of it for the jewish people.

Iran, please hurry up and finish these fuckers off.
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On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi[a] of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates— the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.” Genesis 15:18-22

God gave that land to the Jewish people, dumbass, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Too bad for you tare, your God is Lucifer and you are an imposter.
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Too bad for you tare, your God is Lucifer and you are an imposter.
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Learn to read.
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OK, well I went through and read a lot of the stuff up at that website. I've read lots of this stuff over the years, and in one way it looks to be true, but in other ways it does not.

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rachael I remember this huge 2nd hand book store in an old department store in Burbank back in the late 80s. Religion alone was so large that it would easily fill a decent sized store. In the Roman Catholic section there where rows of obscure books from the 40s, 50s and 60s that all embraced hatred of Jewish people in one way or another.

So who paid for all this? The Vatican is who. Hatred of Jewish people is literally an industrial enterprise.
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Haven't read through all the pages, but I don't think the man-made (albeit God's allowing it) creation of the physical state of Israel and/or Jerusalem is scriptural. I think that this is all a ruse being used by the adversary.

 Quoting: Shamar


Make no mistake about it, it's scriptural all right.

Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut [the womb]? saith thy God.

 Quoting: Judethz


It's scriptural, but it hasn't happened yet......it is still in the workshf
 Quoting: Shamar


ivant Er correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a country called Israel that was founded in ancient Israel and came back to life in one day in 1948.
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Haven't read through all the pages, but I don't think the man-made (albeit God's allowing it) creation of the physical state of Israel and/or Jerusalem is scriptural. I think that this is all a ruse being used by the adversary.

 Quoting: Shamar


Make no mistake about it, it's scriptural all right.

Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut [the womb]? saith thy God.

 Quoting: Judethz


It's scriptural, but it hasn't happened yet......it is still in the workshf
 Quoting: Shamar


ivant Er correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a country called Israel that was founded in ancient Israel and came back to life in one day in 1948.
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Um yes, created by the works and hands of men, using words behing closed doors. Through violence and war - which continues to this day. Do you really believe that is the Most High's way? Is that how He did it the first time - leading His people out of Egypt to the land He had prepared for them? No? So what makes people think he will do it in a manner of violence the second time?

No, the second greater Exodus has not yet occurred.

EZEKIEL 37:15 The word of the LORD came to me: 16 "Son of man, take a stick and write on it, 'For Judah, and the people of Israel associated with him'; then take another stick and write on it, 'For Joseph (the stick of Ephraim) and all the House of Israel associated with him.' 17 And join them one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand. 18 And when your people say to you, 'Will you not tell us what you mean by these?' 19 Say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am about to take the stick of Joseph (that is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with him. And I will join with it the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, that they may be one in My hand. 20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand before their eyes, 21 then say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land. 22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions. But I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God. 24 My servant David shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in My rules and be careful to obey My statutes. 25 They shall dwell in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David My servant shall be their prince forever. 26 I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them in their land and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. 27 My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28 Then the nations will know that I am the LORD who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore." (ESV)
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Why don't jewish folks live in Israel?

If you love it so much, why don't you live there? scratching

It is the homo capitol of the world, after all.




Go home!
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Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
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You need to get a grip you deluded idiot. God gave earth to the people, He didn't particularly keep one section of it for the jewish people.

Iran, please hurry up and finish these fuckers off.
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On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi[a] of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates— the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.” Genesis 15:18-22

God gave that land to the Jewish people, dumbass, whether you want to admit it or not.
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There is a very simple explanation for all this.

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You are a piece of rat shit and Jooooos like you are the reason I am proud anti-semite.
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:cheerusa: You know it might be poetic justice if one day in the future when your hunting rats in the sewers to fill your belly, and you suddenly remember this post with devastating clarity.

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
 Quoting: Judethz


Well said OP. Especially quoting Gen 12:3. Whether one believes the Bible or not, world history has shown that those who persecute God's people are themselves the one's that wind up being persecuted. This holds true with individual people and also societies and countries as a whole.

Example: Germany. Hitler persecuted the jewish people with seperating them from their families; concentration camps with barbed wires where if they attempted to escape they were shot; placed in ovens to burn, etc.

Hitler was found with a gunshot to the head and burned; Germany families were seperated with walls and barbed wire for close to 50 years where if you tried to escape you were shot.

Oh, and btw, look up what happened to the empire of Spain post 1492 when they expelled the jewish people.
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Um yes, created by the works and hands of men, using words behing closed doors. Through violence and war - which continues to this day. Do you really believe that is the Most High's way? Is that how He did it the first time - leading His people out of Egypt to the land He had prepared for them? No? So what makes people think he will do it in a manner of violence the second time?

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judethdflo9 What is wrong with you, the Lord led His people out of Egypt with violence

and they conquered the Promised Land with violence. In fact the Jewish People disobeyed the Lord and allowed some of them to live. Thats why Israel is stuck with the Palestinian (among other) problems today. If they had done what they where told to do in the first place then there wouldn't be this problem that they have now.

Do you not know about Damascus becoming a heap of ruins, or the Dark Cloud that will go against Egypt. The complete destruction of the House of Esau (modern day Palestinians) by fire. And the many other prophecies of war in these End Times.

As for what you say "Um yes, created by the works and hands of men, using words behind closed doors." Surely you have read the bible enough to know that the Lord often puts it into the hearts of evil men to do his will. In this case (to the best of my understanding) the plan is to use the Jewish people to destroy the Arabs and to drive all the Jewish people throughout the world to Greater Israel, which will be their only refuge in a world that will hate Jewish people. In fact you only have to look at some of the comments on GLP to see that this is the desire of quite a few people.

Then when the time is right they will think to utterly destroy The State of Israel and leave not a single Jewish person alive. Look at the Satanic ceremonies performed at the opening and closing of the 2012 Olympics, Madonnas evil show at the Super Bowl, and all the Devil worshiping rock concerts, and so on, and so on. Do you really think that all of this is going to be over looked and go unpunished.

4horseman Zep 1:17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
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When Jesus came along, the jewish people murdered him and the old covenant was broken. Those that reject Christ, reject God. The jewish people rejected Christ.
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Obama has yet to present a credible military threat to deter Iran from seeking nuclear weapons: Netanyahu

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