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chris999

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I have friends in both Iran and Israel amongst other places as well and I can say that the general population..the Moms, Dads, Kids etc just want to go about their daily lives,eat, sleep, fuck and be happy just like the rest of us..

This is a politicians war and not one of the people of these countries (excluding of course the extremists which exist in every nation).

To simply pile all the citizens of a nation into a narrow political view is both naive and ignorant but of course such prejudice exists in all nations.

Time to take the "hate hat" off and stay focused on the political/military machines and leave Mom & Pop Iranian out of the collective argument as they, just like in the USA and Canada will be the only ones that end up suffering the end results of this gamesmanship.
 Quoting: Slyder




Looks like you haven't heard that all the muslim nations are lined up against Israel and pledge to "wipe Israel off the map." and also wipe out the big Satan (America)....
I suppose you wouldn't defend yourself if people start shooting at you, eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22996791


Don't waste your time trying to reason with Israel haters. They are filled with demonic hate and throw reason to the side. It doesn't matter that it is human nature to want to help an underdog or acknowledge the right of self defense. The Israeli's are the center piece of God's grand plan against evil, so it is only natural for evil to find an avenue to strike back at God's plan. This avenue finds easy access through ignorant and godless people.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


Any god that supports war is no God of mine. My Christian god teaches that we are supposed to love our neighbors and make peace with our enemies.

The Jewish God is Satan in disguise, alsways wanting war and death.

If Israel is really "God's chosen people" then he will save them right? Why does America have to get involved when they have "God" on their side?





You know you are a liar.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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Good news! Thanks, O/P.
hf
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+1
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And you actually believe this? Aren't you an American? Do you think is wise, after the unlimited aid and support on all departments Israel got all these years from the US, to give threats and warnings like that to the US and US people? Just asking if you personally think that an almost bankrupt US should go to a war that will last for years and has the potential to escalate in to a global conflict, i'm very interested to hear your views.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Insert, Israel is all that's standing between you and the muzzie hoard !!!

When the common enemy of all the muzzies in the region falls, where do you thing they will turn their attention !?

Europe will be next, they are already making claims to institute sharia law in some EU countries !
 Quoting: subzero86


I see.... israel is cannon fodder then? to keep the dreaded muzzie terrorists attention away from us?

Maybe they should try fighting their own battles, after all, aren't they meant to be gods chosen ones? Can't fail then right? If they start fights they're more than capable of finishing them with god so firmly on their side, they should have nothing to fear. Oh wait, they're not even starting a fight, they want someone else to do that for them.

If all your neighbours hate you, maybe its time to move house. just sayin
 Quoting: ming


Where will they go. Nobody wants them

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Religions, along with the Love Of Money, are the root of all evil.

Pray to the Good God for peace and love, that is the best advice anyone could give to everyone.
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If this is true, God's wrath will be upon us here in the United States. America and the Jewish state were started under similar circumstances and have many spiritual ties.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


So America is evil because we dont want a horrible war that will kill hundreds of thousands of people, and that America probably cant even win?(we dont have enough ground troops)

GTFO here with that bullshit. America is waking up to the lies.
 Quoting: chris999


No one wants a horrible war that will kill thousands. But when you are trying to stop a cancer like radical Islam, sometimes something has to be sacrificed to let the greater whole of civilized society have a more peaceful existance.

Oh, btw, based on two of your responses, if you cannot debate a topic without calling the other party with names and insults, please go back to school and learn how to do so. Your arguments will be better received.
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Cool...I hope the pro-war people will be put on the front lines.
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Ha! What a laugh. The only front line these pro war, nation wrecking jewish twats will place themselves at, is to be first in collecting the spoils of war the non jewish people of the world are forced to fight in.
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Go home!
 Quoting: mr information 1337378


Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
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This poster is one of the dumbest sheeple I have read in years.

Mooooooron
Whowasthatmaskedman

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bsflag

OP is a Mossad shill

The Jewnited States biggest foreign aid recepient is Israel (most of that aid goes directly to their military)

Not to mention Obama signed off on a 70 million anti missle defense system for Israel

[link to abcnews.go.com]

Try again
 Quoting: IronCross


The OP has abandoned her own thread. Since it is apparent that the majority of us disagree with her view she just could not stand it. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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Some people actually have a life outside this forum and can't spend all day in their moms basement with their face glued to the computer screen.
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Sounds like Obama and Putin have knowledge of the New Jerusalem calendar and have command over the Rothschild moon calendar jewish people and Iranian islam calendar people.


Sat Aug 6/16/12
 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


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Blue Beamed
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If this is true, God's wrath will be upon us here in the United States. America and the Jewish state were started under similar circumstances and have many spiritual ties.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


This kind of old testament mentality is the root of the problem in the middle east. If GOD has wrath it should be for the war mongers who bomb innocent women and children while they sleep!!!
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Thread: You have the power to stop the wars, the killing and the mayhem
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Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899251


This poster is one of the dumbest sheeple I have read in years.

Mooooooron
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Just so you know, that was me. I joined for the sole reason of going on record of being pro-Israel.
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All smore and mirrows. US just do not want to seen as the WW3 starting party and of course will rush to help Israel once Iran sends just a single rocket back.

LOLOOOOLOLOL who believes this fuck.
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Not that any of this BS really matters...

...because one the missiles start flying the USA is in it up to it's neck whether it likes it or not. Nobody betrays Israel and just walks.
 Quoting: Judethz



Is this a statement, warning or a threat Judethz?
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


The statement was, sadly, meant as a threat. A corrupt elite in Israel cares very little for the safety of the Jewish people and these psychopaths will willingly sacrifice millions of their fellow jewish people to achieve their agenda of World War III-- which will ultimately allow them to control ALL Central Banks in the world, and ALL the world's oil resources.

These are the same monsters who created one hundred thousand radioactive ringworm children-- using Sephardic kids whom they consider "inferior."

Its also time for the beloved Jewish people to wake up to the mind control that they are all under-- how they have been exploited and "played" by 13 corrupt families who own the Central Banks of the world and its military industrial complex --- and who use, and benefit from, a STRATEGY OF TENSION in the middle east to obtain their global power objectives.

Uncle Sam (We, the American taxpayer) has given HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars to this tiny corrupt political elite in Israel--- not to mention nuclear weapons and armaments galore.

Its time for Uncle Sam's spoiled "niece" to stand on her own two feet and stop threatening "betrayal."

Why not get busy reading books like "All the Shah's Men" to understand the sick history and methods of the BP globalists in Iran?

The elite want to OWN Iran's oil resources and Central Bank, and they're willing to sacrifice their fellow jewish people in Israel to get what they want. They're also willing to sacrifice millions of Americans in a false flag operation in order to obtain their goals through fear.

Its pretty simple-- they create the PROBLEM, you give them the REACTION--- and they give you the SOLUTION they desire.
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If this is true, God's wrath will be upon us here in the United States. America and the Jewish state were started under similar circumstances and have many spiritual ties.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


This kind of old testament mentality is the root of the problem in the middle east. If GOD has wrath it should be for the war mongers who bomb innocent women and children while they sleep!!!
 Quoting: ElusivePisces 11156436


oh yeah.

The Arab nations initiated four wars against Israel:

•1948 War of Independence
•1956 Sinai War
•1967 Six Day War
•1973 Yom Kippur War

Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured (see maps). (see Camp-David Accords). This is unprecedented in World history and shows Israel's willingness to reach peace even at the risk of fighting for its very existence each time anew.
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bsflag

OP is a Mossad shill

The Jewnited States biggest foreign aid recepient is Israel (most of that aid goes directly to their military)

Not to mention Obama signed off on a 70 million anti missle defense system for Israel

[link to abcnews.go.com]

Try again
 Quoting: IronCross


The OP has abandoned her own thread. Since it is apparent that the majority of us disagree with her view she just could not stand it. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
 Quoting: ElusivePisces 11156436


Some people actually have a life outside this forum and can't spend all day in their moms basement with their face glued to the computer screen.
 Quoting: Whowasthatmaskedman


Make all the excuses you need to, but the truth is that the majority of us are not in agreement with the OP's view. Even a ton of sexy Japanese girl pictures can not change this clear fact.
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US disowns Israel over Iran strike: No weapons or military backup

Praise The Lord!!!!
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Jingle: Sing to the State Farm tune

"Just like a bad neighbor ........

israel is there"
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Who the fuck do you think lives there, dumbass? That land was given to the Jewish people by God. They are His chosen people.

I won't be cursed by the Lord for hating Israel, or being a homo. You'll get what's coming to you in the end.
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Delusions of grandeur norespect crazy crazyjak
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Yay! applause2 Obama gets my vote!

chorus
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hmmmmm..... guess he's got his hands full with the american citizens. the real terrorists. Gonna get real ugly here in the USA.....
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Not that any of this BS really matters...sunnysmile

...because once the missiles start flying the USA is in it up to it's neck whether it likes it or not. Nobody betrays Israel and just walks.


DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis September 1, 2012,

Putin gave Obama more time US Gen. Martin Dempsey’s assertion Thursday, Aug. 30 that the US would not be “complicit” in an Israel strike against Iran, together with the drastic reduction in the scale of next month’s joint US-Israeli war game disclosed by TIME, add up to a blunt message from US President Barack Obama to Israel: You are on your own! See how you manage without special US weapons and US military backup, including a shield against missile counter-attack, if you decide to defy us and go through with a military operation against Iran.

debkafile’s military sources: The Obama administration has put Israel on harsh notice that an attack on Iran to disrupt or delay its nuclear armament will be refused US missile backup - both in the course of the operation and to cover Israel’s back in the event of a counter-strike widening into a general Middle East conflict. The Netanyahu government will bear full and exclusive responsibility for the consequences of attacking Iran.

Obama, who has repeatedly pledged his commitment to Israeli security, is the first American president to cut Israeli adrift against a major threat to its security explicitly posed by Iran.

In the last month, Obama has undergone a change of face: The top US soldier and ambassador Dan Shapiro were told to start treating Israel like a pest and telling its leaders that the administration is fed to the teeth with their clamor for action on Iran.

This change did not come out of the blue. debkafile’s Washington and Moscow sources report it evolved from three events:
1. During this month, President Vladimir Putin severed Russia’s military ties with Iran and Syria as debkafile reported earlier: Obama reciprocated by cutting Israel down to size. Moscow informed Tehran and Damascus that there would be no more Russian arms supplies after the delivery of the last items in the pipeline. Putin therefore left both Iran and Syria high and dry amid war dangers in return for Obama cutting Israel off from advance military hardware at a time of peril.
The Russian and American leaders thus put in place the first bricks of an accord for resolving their disputes over a nuclear Iran and the Syrian crisis by the device of slashing the military capacity of Iran, Israel and Syria.
The Russian president took another step as a gesture to Obama: He pulled Russian warships out of the Syrian base of Tartus and the eastern Mediterranean, leaving only a floating dry dock.
In return, he counted on Washington forcing Israel to abandon any plans to strike Iran.
2. But this exercise in symmetrical reciprocity ran into a major snag: Obama found a tough nut in Jerusalem: Binyamin Netanyahu held out for a pledge of US military action against Iran as his price for holding back. Despite the massive pressure Obama threw at the Israeli government, both through the highest ranking US political and military channels and by mobilizing the government’s most vocal opponents and anti-war circles at home, Netanyahu and Barak did not budge.
They understood, despite Obama’s concealment, that the secret US-Russian deal would in fact preserve Iran’s nuclear program at a point at which Iran’s leaders could have a weapon assembled and unsheathed at any moment.
The also realized that as long as Israel’s military option against Iran was alive, the Obama-Putin deal was stuck, because both Iran’s Ali Khamenei and Syria’s Bashar Assad would likewise refuse to fall into line.

When Romney said he would give America’s friends “more loyalty” and Putin “a little less flexibility and more backbone,” he was referring to President Obama’s request from Putin on June 18, at the G20 conference in Mexico, for more time against his promise to the Russian leader of “more flexibility” later.
To keep his deal with Putin in motion, the US president will have to tighten his squeeze on Israel’s leaders to forego an attack on Iran.

Edit: Under 50% with link... [link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: Judethz


"And in that Day (the "Day of the Lord" ... the coming "Apocalypse")

I (God) will make Jerusalem

a burdensome stone

for ALL people"

(Zechariah12:3)

"Behold, the Day of the LORD is coming, (the coming "Apocalypse")

And your spoil will be divided in your midst.

For I (God) will gather ALL the nations to battle

against Jerusalem"

(Zechariah 14:1-2)
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If this is true, God's wrath will be upon us here in the United States. America and the Jewish state were started under similar circumstances and have many spiritual ties.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


This kind of old testament mentality is the root of the problem in the middle east. If GOD has wrath it should be for the war mongers who bomb innocent women and children while they sleep!!!
 Quoting: ElusivePisces 11156436


oh yeah.

The Arab nations initiated four wars against Israel:

•1948 War of Independence
•1956 Sinai War
•1967 Six Day War
•1973 Yom Kippur War

Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured (see maps). (see Camp-David Accords). This is unprecedented in World history and shows Israel's willingness to reach peace even at the risk of fighting for its very existence each time anew.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


"Because, even because

they have seduced My people (Israel),

saying, "Peace",

and there WAS NO PEACE ..."

(Ezekiel 13:10)



"For they have healed the hurt

of the daughter of My people slightly,

saying, 'Peace, Peace;

when there IS NO PEACE!"

(Jeremiah 8:11)



"For you yourselves know perfectly

that the Day of the Lord (the coming 'Apocalypse' and Armageddon)

so comes as a thief in the night.

For when they say, "Peace and safety!"

then sudden destruction comes upon them,

as labor pains upon a pregnant woman.

And they shall not escape."

(1 Thessalonians 5:2-3)
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Yay! applause2 Obama gets my vote!

chorus
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LOL..... my god
ming

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Reminds me of a time at school, where an much older girl tried to get me and my best friend to fight each other with threats of "go on hit her or I'll hit you" followed up with "that was just a tap, you better hit her harder" when my friend did hit me. If my friend had been up for it that bitch would have been toast.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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Jingle: Sing to the State Farm tune

"Just like a bad neighbor ........

israel is there"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545100





LOL!!!! Best post I've read in weeks. Bravo. music
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Is this a statement, warning or a threat Judethz?
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


The statement was, sadly, meant as a threat.
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grizzy It was meant as a warning. Because you do not believe your eyes are still blinded to what is going on in the world. But who knows, hopefully this thread will help some to find the Lord while they are still blessed with a little time.

If you would like to know more from a biblical point of view. SOMEONE ANGRY?... [link to www.chick.com]
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5 stars for U.S if true, nice find OPsmile_kiss
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There are corporations that hire people and pay them money to support or promote a certain idea, especially on conspiracy websites, because 'conspiracy theorists' are usually the independent voters who are believed to be the people who can swing elections.

(For a good example, consider the 'fake' Facebook supporters of Obama)

Paid shilling is real, They are mostly employed by political parties, and are paid to support certain points of view... such as Israel... or they are paid to support certain candidates such as Romney and Obama.


So, I am just telling you guys that are trying to convince some of these people that you are wasting you time, and you are arguing with people who are getting paid an hourly wage to argue back.

Dont let the Israel employees scare you and make you think that all hope is lost. Most Americans are waking up to the lies. Most of these people are just doing their job of spreading fear in the name of God.


(By the way, if anyone from the shilling agencies read this post, I would love to work for you if you have a subject that I honestly agree with. Contact me if you work for an agency that supports issues such as the Libertarian party or principles, world peace or economic reform and I could be a valuable asset.)






***By the way, I am not trying to reflect negatively on GLP. These contractors are private entities not associated with GLP and they post on message boards all over the world, not just here.

So dont take this post to mean that I am blaming Godlike productions.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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Sounds like Obama and Putin have knowledge of the New Jerusalem calendar and have command over the Rothschild moon calendar jewish people and Iranian islam calendar people.


Sat Aug 6/16/12
 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


Russ, you're a madman!

ha ha
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Wouldn't surprize me if Israel attacked it's own people and blamed it on Iran.

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