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Holy Cow!!! First Audit Results In The Federal Reserve’s Nearly 100 Year History Were Posted Today, They Are Startling! Video

 
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The Federal Reserve was given a 100 year charter which should be just about up. Does anyone know if it has been renewed?
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Show me where in the Federal Reserve Act that the Fed was limited to 100 years?

It's a myth.
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Trying to look it up now ... do you want a reliable source?
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


See we don't really know yet if they used gold or not. In fact we won't get to know til the end of this year! After elections! After the day of doom in December doesn't come...which ironically is when some people say aliens are coming back to take it away.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

So think what you will but I think it's not there, otherwise wouldn't they just tell us all is fine? And get conspiracy mongers off their back about it? Just saying is all...
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The Federal Reserve was given a 100 year charter which should be just about up. Does anyone know if it has been renewed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350080
If it has/will be, it'll be under cover of darkness at Jekyll Island..
 Quoting: cosman
A lookup found this:"The FED got a 20 year charter on 23 dec. 1913 and on 25 feb. 1927, this was changed to perpetual"
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What would 25 trillion pennys look like? How many supertankers would that fill up?
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There are an estimated 200 billion stars in the Andromeda galaxy...25 trillion...that's.....

equal to the amount of stars in 125 galaxies

it will never be paid...collapse is the only solution.
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


clappa
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That would be a good starting point for reform, but loans must be repaid or money loses all value and the entire world economic system falls to nothing.

That may sound like a good idea, to just go around bartering for goods and services, but we live in an industrialized world, it really would not end well for most people.

Money is proof of debt, it is a financial asset backed by a financial liability, held by another party. Money exists not by nature, but by law.

Gold's value is intrinsic, it has no counter party, thus it makes very poor money. It is an investment.

It's really the interest( Usury ) that is the con that the Bankers and wealthy powerful people have been using on the masses for thousands of years. They create money from thin air then loan it out at interest.

Loans create money, and as the loans are repaid money is voided, but the interest the wealthy keep for themselves and the friends of the Banks.

There is no need for the interest, they only charge them because they can, they are not loaning you someone else's money, they are creating the money when they make the loan.
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


OK...so the system collapses. All those who've saved and invested their wealth suddenly lose it, right?

It may be "worthless paper" to you, but to someone with hundreds or even tens of thousands saved and invested, it's their future.

I don't know...maybe I'm missing something here.
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DEFAULT DEFAULT DEFAULT

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEBTS
INCURRED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

LET THE WHOLE SYSTEM CRASH.
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


OK...so the system collapses. All those who've saved and invested their wealth suddenly lose it, right?

It may be "worthless paper" to you, but to someone with hundreds or even tens of thousands saved and invested, it's their future.

I don't know...maybe I'm missing something here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


Yeah, it doesn't seem so worthless when you have invested and saved it.
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Re: Holy Cow!!! First Audit Results In The Federal Reserve’s Nearly 100 Year History Were Posted Today, They Are Startling! Video
The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


OK...so the system collapses. All those who've saved and invested their wealth suddenly lose it, right?

It may be "worthless paper" to you, but to someone with hundreds or even tens of thousands saved and invested, it's their future.

I don't know...maybe I'm missing something here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING ALRIGHT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE INVESTED IN REAL MONEY,
OR ANYTHING OF REAL VALUE.
ALL FIAT SYSTEMS WILL CRASH EVENTUALLY.
YOU SHOULD GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN.
IF YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO, SHAME ON YOU.
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K, doing some quick reading here, I have learned that in 1933 the United States incorporated went into bankruptcy from which it has, uh, never recovered; to the, uh, gulp, International Banking Cartel ....

Oh no! Don't say it's all true? I can't read anymore!
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I saw this and literally got sick to my stomach. The debt we're passing on to future generations is criminal. Welcome to the looting of our country!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


What debt? This is fraud, it is nothing, made from nothing. As such, it can be repudiated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23008345


Really...well not without destroying 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, after all Treasury Bonds are the instruments of our debt, and every bank in the country is holding their reserves in Treasuries, so not only do you destroy the reserves of every single bank in this country, you cause these banks to become insolvent, thereby destroying the accounts and savings of every single American...

Not to mention what you do to our currency...

So sure, go ahead and repudiate the debt, see how that works out for you...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 09/01/2012 11:35 PM
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Yeah but just figure this, once all the trickle down effect kicks in all of us American working class peoples will have a good job, a place to live, food, good medical care, no more crime or wars and we will all be very happy!!!!!
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abolish the fed, save Humanity from slavery.
hugs for you:)
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


OK...so the system collapses. All those who've saved and invested their wealth suddenly lose it, right?

It may be "worthless paper" to you, but to someone with hundreds or even tens of thousands saved and invested, it's their future.

I don't know...maybe I'm missing something here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


The only people who care about keeping the system going are those with something to lose. That is fewer and fewer people. Most people like me do not understand economics in great depth and only understand all this makes no difference to us personnally. If we had a choice we'd say, let it collapse. I think it is the people who believe in the system that will get hurt. And at this point that is not the stealers, and not the stealed from.
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The Federal Reserve was given a 100 year charter which should be just about up. Does anyone know if it has been renewed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350080


Show me where in the Federal Reserve Act that the Fed was limited to 100 years?

It's a myth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908741


Trying to look it up now ... do you want a reliable source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350080


DEFAULT DEFAULT DEFAULT

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEBTS
INCURRED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

LET THE WHOLE SYSTEM CRASH.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23017153


United States Government borrows on the credit of United States. So it's the States that are liable for the debt.

States can not declare bankruptcy.

It's better to just take back the money powers from the Fed( Private Banks ) and issue USD directly from the US Treasury like Lincoln did with the Greenback during the Civil War.

Pay our existing Bond debt down with that.

It's going to make some inflation, but we can do it over time. It's better we eat the inflation now than pass a debt on to our children and grandchildren that they did not spend.
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abolish the fed, save Humanity from slavery.
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Only an act of Congress can end the FED and either they're all bought and sold and in the FED's back pocket, or the FED has enough on congress that they wont act.
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


OK...so the system collapses. All those who've saved and invested their wealth suddenly lose it, right?

It may be "worthless paper" to you, but to someone with hundreds or even tens of thousands saved and invested, it's their future.

I don't know...maybe I'm missing something here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING ALRIGHT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE INVESTED IN REAL MONEY,
OR ANYTHING OF REAL VALUE.
ALL FIAT SYSTEMS WILL CRASH EVENTUALLY.
YOU SHOULD GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN.
IF YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO, SHAME ON YOU.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23017153


By Real Money you mean gold and silver? It's been confiscated before in the USA. Anything of "Real Value" can be taxed to the point of worthlessness or even liability. The banksters have been able to print and keep as much as they wanted for a century in the US. That is why they own or control everything worth owning or controlling, and the rest they tax. Any nation going against them will find itself in a war, which it will lose. Any politician that really causes them problems will be killed or severely punished.
They've got all the bases covered. Nothing short of the Second coming or a global disaster of biblical proportions will ever unseat them as Earth's controllers. They're smarter than us, and they have an unquenchable desire for complete control. Look at the quote below to understand what they intend:
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

Honor, truthfulness, fidelity, family, justice--these mean nothing to them.

Last Edited by MuzzleBreak on 09/01/2012 11:43 PM
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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you and I are the collateral. Its on your birth certificate.

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The Federal Reserve was given a 100 year charter which should be just about up. Does anyone know if it has been renewed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350080
If it has/will be, it'll be under cover of darkness at Jekyll Island..
 Quoting: cosman
A lookup found this:"The FED got a 20 year charter on 23 dec. 1913 and on 25 feb. 1927, this was changed to perpetual"
 Quoting: cosman


A search gives a lot of unreliable sources. I'm not sure that anyone knows. As someone said earlier in the thread; Congress has the right to revoke the charter?
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I saw this and literally got sick to my stomach. The debt we're passing on to future generations is criminal. Welcome to the looting of our country!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


What debt? This is fraud, it is nothing, made from nothing. As such, it can be repudiated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23008345


Really...well not without destroying 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, after all Treasury Bonds are the instruments of our debt, and every bank in the country is holding their reserves in Treasuries, so not only do you destroy the reserves of every single bank in this country, you cause these banks to become insolvent, thereby destroying the accounts and savings of every single American...

Not to mention what you do to our currency...

So sure, go ahead and repudiate the debt, see how that works out for you...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


The Treasury Bonds are actually the wealth instrument, but other than that your correct.

Talk of default is madness.
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Nearly none of the money has been returned and they got the loans with 0% interest. Let the general populace pay out this debt!?`

We aught to be enraged right now hearing these kinds of atrocities!
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That is grossly stupid. Look the alternative is for the world economy to collapse. Everybody knew that we were bailing out the world because the Republican Bankers with that mortgage scam created the potential for a Global Depression because the Bankers sold those corrupt mortgages to banks in Europe and China and even Australia. The whole damn world economy was nearly ruined by the Republiscam Scam.
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abolish the fed, save Humanity from slavery.
 Quoting: hugs1111
Only an act of Congress can end the FED and either they're all bought and sold and in the FED's back pocket, or the FED has enough on congress that they wont act.
 Quoting: cosman


Oh, here it is. Thanks Cosman.
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The debt is not real. It does not exist.

Did the bankers loan out gold?

No, they loaned out worthless paper that they admit (in the fed website) has ZERO value.

They insist it be "payed" back with more worthless paper....

uh, do you see the reality here?

If EVERYBODY stood up and said "we ain't payin'"

The system would collapse.

It is your own delusion that gives the worthless paper its power.

NOTHING of value was given, therefore, nothing of value need be returned.

Do you see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22908497


OK...so the system collapses. All those who've saved and invested their wealth suddenly lose it, right?

It may be "worthless paper" to you, but to someone with hundreds or even tens of thousands saved and invested, it's their future.

I don't know...maybe I'm missing something here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING ALRIGHT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE INVESTED IN REAL MONEY,
OR ANYTHING OF REAL VALUE.
ALL FIAT SYSTEMS WILL CRASH EVENTUALLY.
YOU SHOULD GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN.
IF YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO, SHAME ON YOU.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23017153


By Real Money you mean gold and silver? It's been confiscated before in the USA. Anything of "Real Value" can be taxed to the point of worthlessness or even liability. The banksters have been able to print and keep as much as they wanted for a century in the US. That is why they own or control everything worth owning or controlling, and the rest they tax. Any nation going against them will find itself in a war, which it will lose. Any politician that really causes them problems will be killed or severely punished.
They've got all the bases covered. Nothing short of the Second coming or a global disaster of biblical proportions will ever unseat them as Earth's controllers. They're smarter than us, and they have an unquenchable desire for complete control. Look at the quote below to understand what they intend:
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

Honor, truthfulness, fidelity, family, justice--these mean nothing to them.
 Quoting: Muzzle


They only got what people were willing to give to them.
That was a time when the people respected the government.
Today the government is despised by many, and loathed
by the rest.
If they came to take the gold, and the guns, that would
be the best thing that could happen to America.
That would be the end of the police state.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots & tyrants.
It is it's natural manure." -----Thomas Jefferson
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GAO (Government Accountability Office) report Of the Federal Reserve;

[link to www.gao.gov]

See page 131
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


You said this audit was done in the past few months, but the date on this report is July 2011 - over a year old. What am I missing here?
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The Federal Reserve was given a 100 year charter which should be just about up. Does anyone know if it has been renewed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350080
If it has/will be, it'll be under cover of darkness at Jekyll Island..
 Quoting: cosman
A lookup found this:"The FED got a 20 year charter on 23 dec. 1913 and on 25 feb. 1927, this was changed to perpetual"
 Quoting: cosman


A search gives a lot of unreliable sources. I'm not sure that anyone knows. As someone said earlier in the thread; Congress has the right to revoke the charter?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350080

The famous economist Joe Neubarth says that there is no termination date on the Fed Charter. It is impossible for the Fed to default on its debt. Since the US can borrow from the Fed at zero interest, Guess what? That is right, it is impossible for the US to ever default on its debt either.

We effectively own the world and are paying the Fed Zero Interest for that right. The US Fed is the greatest thing the world has ever seen.
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And do you guys have any idea what this money is being used for? Do you folks know who's hands this money is being placed onto?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


A chunk of it is being used to keep gold and silver prices down. JP uses the money to order a nearly unlimited shorts in the gold and silver markets in order to depress prices.
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The real person to blame for this atrocity of justice is the man in charge..our President..if it happened on his watch its his problem and he was well aware of it as many Democrats were ..or should i say Socialists.
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Watch the Podcast with Michael Hudson on this website:

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I don't know how to embed the podcast.

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