US disowns Israel over Iran strike- No weapons or military

From Pauldaily comment Page..

hmmmm...
Submitted by RonzdaMan on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 21:42. Permalink

I would like to see this document myself...very explosive if true. If this is true, than I suggest Obummer tighten up his security after he begins his second term. Net-n-yahoo is not above extinguishing an American President...especially this one!

Part of the act I think.

The US would never stand up to Israel otherwise.

I just can't let myself get to excited on this one yet..
If this is true I'll be one happy guy....

Based on population alone, an attack won't happen
Submitted by Velveeta Underground on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 16:51. Permalink

Iran has a population of approximately 60 million, Israel has roughly 8 million people. It would be the dumbest thing in the world for them to execute a full on military strike on Iran.

Israel can't use a nuke
Submitted by RonzdaMan on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 18:51. Permalink

I was in Pershing II missile unit. I can tell you that a nuke is a defensive weapon...last ditch. If Israel used a nuke, Russia would respond and it is likeley that Israel would be wiped off the map before their nuke even got to Iran...if the Russians didn't shoot it down first.

Also the political consequences of Israel using a nuke on a muslim country would be fatal for Israel....so Israel using a nuke is absolutely NOT an option...unless they want to committ suicide.


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hmmmm....a big fan of isreal you are

net-n-yahoo
Submitted by RonzdaMan on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 16:23. Permalink

has some big problems with his zionest wet dream. As mentioned by a comment below, Haaretz did a poll about two weeks ago that showed only 22% supporting an attack on Iran. Haaretz is not exactly a left wing paper and I think it is Israel's most circulated fish wrap.

Another problem: In the agreement the U.S. signed with the Iraqi's NO military strikes on any of Iraq's neighbors is allowed from Iraqi bases or over Iraqi air space.

Another problem: If Iraq cannot be used then the Israeli air force would have to fly south then east over Saudi air space. If Saudi air space is used there would be serious blowback for the Saudi's, who are already under intense pressure from the mobs that are now trying to join the arab spring...Bahrain as well.

All of this means that it will be much more dangerous to try and pull this off...and Israel does not have tanker planes to refuel..they would need U.S. fuel tanker aircraft and will need to refuel at least three times.

It has to be a fake move to disassociate these two conjoined twins. Russian troops in the US - a Chinese military ship docked in Israel. All these leaders that are members of the same or offshoot brotherhoods, swearing secret oaths, fearmongering about wars about to occur when we are already in a war for our very lives as they slow kill us with their poisons of choice -

BINGO.. Yes a fake move... Thanks...

DEFINITELY part of the act. The United States will get involved in this coming way ONE way or Another. Don't drink the kool-aid and be fooled by the theatrics. This is part of the drama series.

From the comment page..

amc1953 Is Correct:
Submitted by ProudAmericanFirst on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 15:40. Permalink

"what's being announced and reality are two different things. War must be imminent and obama wants to be able to say I did not start it."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Obummer needs war to have any remote chance for re-election.

The Israeli media are just as controlled as in the US.
Submitted by David Robertson on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 15:28. Permalink

There is nothing said in the Israeli media about Iran that isn't cleared with the military and the intelligence services first. All protest is carefully controlled as well to maintain the semblance of democracy just as in the US.

There is a case being built in Israel that Obama is their enemy. Obama is cooperating with this for the sake of solidifying his support from the anti-war crowd in the US and to put some clear water between himself and Romney. It always helps to have a clear choice being presented to the American people to maintain the illusion of America the free.

This will be countered by Romney who is friendly with Netanyahu who has strong support in Israel and in the US among the Zionists both Jewish and Christian. Romney has promised to move the American embassy to Jerusalem and to support an attack on Iran. Once again they are defining the traditional roles of the two wings of the bird of prey. Here is an interesting article by a real Israeli dissident who is a political prisoner in Bolivia. It deals with the internal politics that are at the root of Israeli attitudes in the international arena:

[link to www.roitov.com]

My personal view is that Romney is the designated winner of the Presidency. He is a warmonger and a ruthless operative of the oligarchy who is the ideal choice to complete building the police state. Remember his support for the NDAA. Whatever it takes to elect him is what will happen. Now that they control the counting of all the votes it will be a simple matter to arrange. The media Greek chorus will provide the justification for the victory. Obama will just have to accept his defeat gracefully. Maybe all the evidence that he isn't an American will suddenly bear fruit.

It gives the enemy the false hope that they are winning. Then you up and do what you said you wouldn't do. Obama is really good at that. Promising something and never following through. Hell, that's how he was elected.

Plus he gets you all happy and content only to screw you in the end.

Agreed David
Submitted by elviejo on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 15:35. Permalink

I think Obama has lost his glow and is of no more use to them.

Even POLITICO is not writing PRO Obama stories....just ANTI Romney.
I am feeling in my gut that the press has been given their instructions and the "evil ones" have deigned Romney as their next puppet.

This, they feel will give the masses a feeling that they have WON something, and will (they think) put them back to sleep.

At this point, I think this is a done deal.

During the VietNam war there was a saying
Submitted by elviejo on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 14:55. Permalink

"What if they started a war and nobody came"

This is what I pray for every night. That the military men and women will simply put down their weapons and walk away, that the pilots will refuse to fly, that the recruitment offices are empty.... as all of our young people JUST SAY NO.

This warms my heart.

what's being announced and
Submitted by amc1953 on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 14:50. Permalink

what's being announced and reality are two different things. War must be imminent and obama wants to be able to say I did not start it. We will get involved in the war in order to keep the straights of Hormuz open and it will expand from there.

It's not going to happen. At ALL. Ever.