CANCER - Would you opt for Surgery, Chemo, Radiation? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1568805 09/02/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am waiting to find out if i have uterine cancer. Busy researching and debating the various treatments. I have already come to the conclusion that i will undergo neither chemo nor radiation, if suggested, because it seems to me that they ultimately do more damage than good. I have already made positive lifestyle changes in regards to diet and exercise, which are of great import, and will add alternative treatments such as reiki. I'm left debating the question of surgery. Its a huge stressor and the focus ought be on optimizing one's immune system. Also, there's the theory wherein removing the primary tumor (or organ) can actually encourage and accelerate metastasis... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19956934 Don't know if you seen this but check it out. I am going to try it, [link to kelleyeidem.hubpages.com] He's one of the biggest charlatans I've ever had this misfortune to come across. thanks for that info |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20022035 09/02/2012 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having spent the last 11 years researching into virtually every supposed cancer "cure and treatment" since my mother died of it I've come to the very informed conclusion that unfortunately there aren't any miracle cures for it. I started off with a very open mind but it didn't take me long to realise that the vast majority of these so-called cures were just scams. Quoting: Cahill Thankfully I have a background which allows me to sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to such claims and when you start drilling down into them these claims soon start falling apart. What people should realise is that similar to conventional medicine, alternative medicine is also a business. Alternative medicine was worth over $50 BILLION last year alone! The grotesque and horrible truth is that there is NO cure for cancer out there, regardless of what people on here would have you believe. Conventional treatments are horrendous and can certainly cause other problems however, if they're started early enough, the risks can be kept minimal and the success rate is extremely good indeed (again, the survival rates from conventional treatment are far, far better than popular myths would lead you to believe). The way I see it is that the alternative to proper treatment is much worse than the treatment itself. I wish you the very best of luck. ..excellent...there IS cures for cancers..but maybe it won't cure YOURS...that's the bitch...my cancer,base on tongue, had a 70% successful cure history using the Stanford protocols of radiation and chemo..as my oncologist told me, so what!..the only thing that matters is YOUR cure...30% will NOT be cured..those folks will not be happy with traditional medicine...the 70% will say they were cured..IF I was told I had cancer,and this was confirmed by biopsy, CAT-PET scans, and a 2nd opinion...and my Doctor told me to eat nuts and fruits and drink peroxide and there was nothing he could do for me...I would worry... we have radiation and chemo because "natural" cures don't work..if they did there would be no need for the other...I hope,whatever she decides, peace and happiness... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20022035 09/02/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also.. check into how to make your body more alkaline. It seems like cancers thrive in a acidic environment. Quoting: artMan I.e more fresh fruit and veggies. No it doesn't. That's absolute nonsense. ...I, during my 3 6 hr chemo treatments, had the very depressing conversations of "natural cures" with 3 women...all breast cancers...who were ALL diagnosed at stage 1 or 2..all 3 didn't want to go thru chemo and/or rad treatment...all were now stage 4 and 2 died..1 pulled thru...my Doc was a female so lots of gals with breast/ovarian cancers...she was older, 50's, and spent most of her day begging women to get treatment..she said half the battle was out dated treatment stories and the rest were simply wrong information...she had been around long enough to see the successes and failures, the new medicines and doses and "cure" rates doubling in her career...I don't think she wanted to get all my money and kill me,I really don't..I do think the quacks just want my money and don't care if I die...I also wonder how many stories of "natural" cures were not cancers in the first place..I read a lot of stories of the "family" doc said he/she had cancer and a treatment schedule...really?...the last person giving treatment advise is a family doc...oncologists, OBGYN's, ENT's etc.,they should be confirming cancers and suggesting treatments...if my Doc thought I had cancer I would demand a specialist, 2nd opinion etc etc...Doc's are human and make errors,that's why you want MORE opinions,options... |
| Fhirinne User ID: 17348671 09/03/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having spent the last 11 years researching into virtually every supposed cancer "cure and treatment" since my mother died of it I've come to the very informed conclusion that unfortunately there aren't any miracle cures for it. I started off with a very open mind but it didn't take me long to realise that the vast majority of these so-called cures were just scams. Quoting: Cahill Thankfully I have a background which allows me to sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to such claims and when you start drilling down into them these claims soon start falling apart. What people should realise is that similar to conventional medicine, alternative medicine is also a business. Alternative medicine was worth over $50 BILLION last year alone! The grotesque and horrible truth is that there is NO cure for cancer out there, regardless of what people on here would have you believe. Conventional treatments are horrendous and can certainly cause other problems however, if they're started early enough, the risks can be kept minimal and the success rate is extremely good indeed (again, the survival rates from conventional treatment are far, far better than popular myths would lead you to believe). The way I see it is that the alternative to proper treatment is much worse than the treatment itself. I wish you the very best of luck. ..excellent...there IS cures for cancers..but maybe it won't cure YOURS...that's the bitch...my cancer,base on tongue, had a 70% successful cure history using the Stanford protocols of radiation and chemo..as my oncologist told me, so what!..the only thing that matters is YOUR cure...30% will NOT be cured..those folks will not be happy with traditional medicine...the 70% will say they were cured..IF I was told I had cancer,and this was confirmed by biopsy, CAT-PET scans, and a 2nd opinion...and my Doctor told me to eat nuts and fruits and drink peroxide and there was nothing he could do for me...I would worry... we have radiation and chemo because "natural" cures don't work..if they did there would be no need for the other...I hope,whatever she decides, peace and happiness... Thats just not the truth at all! The reason natural cures get stepped on and trashed with lies is because pharma cannot patent and own it! Chemo and radiation both can create a more aggressive cancer and treatment resistant cancers. That said in my research work for a website I have learned to put my own feelings towards big pharma out the way at times when I have found a natural plant extract that doubles the chemo drug cancer killing power which means they can use less or it and for less of a time frame or protects against its toxic effects. So don't be so fast to trash natural as useless as I have come across some plant extracts that are far better than the chemo drug they were paired off against or are just as good yet without the toxic side effects. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2045712 09/03/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having spent the last 11 years researching into virtually every supposed cancer "cure and treatment" since my mother died of it I've come to the very informed conclusion that unfortunately there aren't any miracle cures for it. I started off with a very open mind but it didn't take me long to realise that the vast majority of these so-called cures were just scams. Quoting: Cahill Thankfully I have a background which allows me to sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to such claims and when you start drilling down into them these claims soon start falling apart. What people should realise is that similar to conventional medicine, alternative medicine is also a business. Alternative medicine was worth over $50 BILLION last year alone! The grotesque and horrible truth is that there is NO cure for cancer out there, regardless of what people on here would have you believe. Conventional treatments are horrendous and can certainly cause other problems however, if they're started early enough, the risks can be kept minimal and the success rate is extremely good indeed (again, the survival rates from conventional treatment are far, far better than popular myths would lead you to believe). The way I see it is that the alternative to proper treatment is much worse than the treatment itself. I wish you the very best of luck. ..excellent...there IS cures for cancers..but maybe it won't cure YOURS...that's the bitch...my cancer,base on tongue, had a 70% successful cure history using the Stanford protocols of radiation and chemo..as my oncologist told me, so what!..the only thing that matters is YOUR cure...30% will NOT be cured..those folks will not be happy with traditional medicine...the 70% will say they were cured..IF I was told I had cancer,and this was confirmed by biopsy, CAT-PET scans, and a 2nd opinion...and my Doctor told me to eat nuts and fruits and drink peroxide and there was nothing he could do for me...I would worry... we have radiation and chemo because "natural" cures don't work..if they did there would be no need for the other...I hope,whatever she decides, peace and happiness... Thats just not the truth at all! The reason natural cures get stepped on and trashed with lies is because pharma cannot patent and own it! Chemo and radiation both can create a more aggressive cancer and treatment resistant cancers. That said in my research work for a website I have learned to put my own feelings towards big pharma out the way at times when I have found a natural plant extract that doubles the chemo drug cancer killing power which means they can use less or it and for less of a time frame or protects against its toxic effects. So don't be so fast to trash natural as useless as I have come across some plant extracts that are far better than the chemo drug they were paired off against or are just as good yet without the toxic side effects. Why do people still believe this nonsense. Of course pharma can't own a patent for the plant. What they do is own the patent for the USE of the plant in a specific formula and in certain circumstances. If they were unable to do this, there would be NO PHARMA. |
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| Fhirinne User ID: 17348671 09/03/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having spent the last 11 years researching into virtually every supposed cancer "cure and treatment" since my mother died of it I've come to the very informed conclusion that unfortunately there aren't any miracle cures for it. I started off with a very open mind but it didn't take me long to realise that the vast majority of these so-called cures were just scams. Quoting: Cahill Thankfully I have a background which allows me to sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to such claims and when you start drilling down into them these claims soon start falling apart. What people should realise is that similar to conventional medicine, alternative medicine is also a business. Alternative medicine was worth over $50 BILLION last year alone! The grotesque and horrible truth is that there is NO cure for cancer out there, regardless of what people on here would have you believe. Conventional treatments are horrendous and can certainly cause other problems however, if they're started early enough, the risks can be kept minimal and the success rate is extremely good indeed (again, the survival rates from conventional treatment are far, far better than popular myths would lead you to believe). The way I see it is that the alternative to proper treatment is much worse than the treatment itself. I wish you the very best of luck. ..excellent...there IS cures for cancers..but maybe it won't cure YOURS...that's the bitch...my cancer,base on tongue, had a 70% successful cure history using the Stanford protocols of radiation and chemo..as my oncologist told me, so what!..the only thing that matters is YOUR cure...30% will NOT be cured..those folks will not be happy with traditional medicine...the 70% will say they were cured..IF I was told I had cancer,and this was confirmed by biopsy, CAT-PET scans, and a 2nd opinion...and my Doctor told me to eat nuts and fruits and drink peroxide and there was nothing he could do for me...I would worry... we have radiation and chemo because "natural" cures don't work..if they did there would be no need for the other...I hope,whatever she decides, peace and happiness... Thats just not the truth at all! The reason natural cures get stepped on and trashed with lies is because pharma cannot patent and own it! Chemo and radiation both can create a more aggressive cancer and treatment resistant cancers. That said in my research work for a website I have learned to put my own feelings towards big pharma out the way at times when I have found a natural plant extract that doubles the chemo drug cancer killing power which means they can use less or it and for less of a time frame or protects against its toxic effects. So don't be so fast to trash natural as useless as I have come across some plant extracts that are far better than the chemo drug they were paired off against or are just as good yet without the toxic side effects. Why do people still believe this nonsense. Of course pharma can't own a patent for the plant. What they do is own the patent for the USE of the plant in a specific formula and in certain circumstances. If they were unable to do this, there would be NO PHARMA. They take a said chemical from plant and make a synthetic version of it and then adulterate it with toxic chemicals and call it medicine. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2045712 09/03/2012 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason natural cures get stepped on and trashed with lies is because pharma cannot patent and own it! Quoting: Cahill Chemo and radiation both can create a more aggressive cancer and treatment resistant cancers. That said in my research work for a website I have learned to put my own feelings towards big pharma out the way at times when I have found a natural plant extract that doubles the chemo drug cancer killing power which means they can use less or it and for less of a time frame or protects against its toxic effects. So don't be so fast to trash natural as useless as I have come across some plant extracts that are far better than the chemo drug they were paired off against or are just as good yet without the toxic side effects. Why do people still believe this nonsense. Of course pharma can't own a patent for the plant. What they do is own the patent for the USE of the plant in a specific formula and in certain circumstances. If they were unable to do this, there would be NO PHARMA. They take a said chemical from plant and make a synthetic version of it and then adulterate it with toxic chemicals and call it medicine. So they utilise the active chemical in the plant in a proper dose rather than just guesswork. By the way, if there is any truth in what you say about the plant extract on this website you're involved in, send me a link via private message so I can have a look. Believe it or not, I'm still looking for a cure. |
| I'M NOT A DOCTOR. User ID: 22751176 09/03/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd opt for the water cure. It cured my hypertension of many years in exactly 4 days ironically by eating more salt and drinking more water and taking my vitamins. Everything is free online if people dig deep. I would watch these 6 videos if I had cancer and do more research on the water cure. You are not sick, you are THIRSTY! WE ARE ALL DEHYDRATED. I'd consult with my doctor first, although I know what their answer will be: YOU ARE A MORON. |
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| Fhirinne User ID: 17348671 09/03/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason natural cures get stepped on and trashed with lies is because pharma cannot patent and own it! Quoting: Cahill Chemo and radiation both can create a more aggressive cancer and treatment resistant cancers. That said in my research work for a website I have learned to put my own feelings towards big pharma out the way at times when I have found a natural plant extract that doubles the chemo drug cancer killing power which means they can use less or it and for less of a time frame or protects against its toxic effects. So don't be so fast to trash natural as useless as I have come across some plant extracts that are far better than the chemo drug they were paired off against or are just as good yet without the toxic side effects. Why do people still believe this nonsense. Of course pharma can't own a patent for the plant. What they do is own the patent for the USE of the plant in a specific formula and in certain circumstances. If they were unable to do this, there would be NO PHARMA. They take a said chemical from plant and make a synthetic version of it and then adulterate it with toxic chemicals and call it medicine. So they utilise the active chemical in the plant in a proper dose rather than just guesswork. By the way, if there is any truth in what you say about the plant extract on this website you're involved in, send me a link via private message so I can have a look. Believe it or not, I'm still looking for a cure. ........................................................ Turns out one don't need the toxic chemicals in the pharma drugs. I can't use the message feature sadly but I don't mind posting the links here. Ginkgo May Sensitize Ovarian Cancer Cells to Cisplatin: Antiproliferative and Apoptosis-Inducing Effects of Ginkgolide B on Ovarian Cancer Cells. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] The Synergistic Apoptotic Interaction of Panaxadiol and Epigallocatechin Gallate in Human Colorectal Cancer Cells. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Additively enhanced antiproliferative effect of interferon combined with proanthocyanidin on bladder cancer cells. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Not sure whats up with the site as the quotes are a bit nuts today hehe You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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| Fhirinne User ID: 17348671 09/03/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would opt out. In my opinion, surgery always makes cancer spread. Exposing cancer to oxygen feeds it. Quoting: Renegade (Me too) Chemo and radiation makes a person very sick and weakens autoimmune system. Try alternatives: MMS. MMS might as well be a chemo drug. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1568805 09/03/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would opt out. In my opinion, surgery always makes cancer spread. Exposing cancer to oxygen feeds it. Quoting: Renegade (Me too) Chemo and radiation makes a person very sick and weakens autoimmune system. Try alternatives: MMS. Show me "1" link to a person cured of lung cancer using MMS,as a matter of fact , any cancer. here is a snippet from Jim Humble site very first post [link to genesis2forum.org] . Unfortunatly on the tuesday she died and I dont understand why,with the amount of MMS.etc. she was given by her daughter who followed the instructions (she is a Vetenarian) so she is well used to this with animals I was very optomistic but to no avail. Also its a small island and I am now worried that I and MMS will get a bad name. MMS has worked with most minor problems over the last 5 years but the big C still cant be cured and it is almost a pandemic here.Also I had a young lady in England who died rather than try it , this is another problem which is destroying my confidence |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4727082 09/03/2012 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Us humans only have a set time on this earth. Quoting: Saratonin Why try to beat the clock. Go with the flow and let life take you. - Sara when you get to that door, then say that I'm with Sara. We're all going to die one day. I don't think it doesn't mean you can't try alternative, non-invasive treatments; I think that going under surgery, chemo, or radiation would just prolong the issue. Sending OP lots of love and prayers I knew a woman who battled breast cancer three times (opted for mastectomy of both breasts last two times) and fought colon cancer twice. She used traditional treatments and then tried non-traditional treatments with last bout of colon cancer. She did pass away and it was awful to watch. She did all that she could and fought as hard as she could. If there was a woman who would spit in the devil's face, it would be her. She was a very strong woman. In the end she was just tired of fighting. It ravaged her body. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1069318 09/03/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am waiting to find out if i have uterine cancer. Busy researching and debating the various treatments. I have already come to the conclusion that i will undergo neither chemo nor radiation, if suggested, because it seems to me that they ultimately do more damage than good. I have already made positive lifestyle changes in regards to diet and exercise, which are of great import, and will add alternative treatments such as reiki. I'm left debating the question of surgery. Its a huge stressor and the focus ought be on optimizing one's immune system. Also, there's the theory wherein removing the primary tumor (or organ) can actually encourage and accelerate metastasis... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19956934 Chemo is a death sentence. Radiation is a death sentence. Surgery will only delay the inevitable. Cancer is a nutritional deficiency (except in cases where exposed to ionizing radiation). Proper diet, drink 9.5 pH water (Essentia), take a very good multivitamin (source naturals makes an excellent one. You can always tell a good multivitamin because the vitamin B-12 will say methylcobalamin, instead of the man made version cyancobalamin), take a coral calcium/magnesium supplement (Source Naturals, 2-1 ratio cal:mag), get into the sun without sunblock (this will produce Vitamin D which is essential for body functions). Absolutely stay away from sugar or anything processed. Also, monitor your blood pH. Optimal human pH should be between 7.15 and 7.35 (Article below has a slight variation, but it is still within the alkaline range). Anything less and you are going to be prone to more cancer in your body. Article on Acidosis: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22901085 09/03/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The positive changes you are making is the right step. If I had a diagnosis of cancer, I would: Quoting: Hardamber 14217279 1. Get a good stock of apricot seeds. 2. Study up on blood root salve. 3. Learn all I can about baking soda therapy. 4. Seriously consider the Gerson Therapy. 5. Drink Cassie's Tea. I'd hit it with everything possible, except for traditional medicine. I'd do the same as this guy, but add juice fasting and graviola to the mix. And when I'm eating I'd cut right back on food intake and eat one healthy meal per day, in the evening. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2045712 09/03/2012 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason natural cures get stepped on and trashed with lies is because pharma cannot patent and own it! Quoting: Cahill Chemo and radiation both can create a more aggressive cancer and treatment resistant cancers. That said in my research work for a website I have learned to put my own feelings towards big pharma out the way at times when I have found a natural plant extract that doubles the chemo drug cancer killing power which means they can use less or it and for less of a time frame or protects against its toxic effects. So don't be so fast to trash natural as useless as I have come across some plant extracts that are far better than the chemo drug they were paired off against or are just as good yet without the toxic side effects. Why do people still believe this nonsense. Of course pharma can't own a patent for the plant. What they do is own the patent for the USE of the plant in a specific formula and in certain circumstances. If they were unable to do this, there would be NO PHARMA. They take a said chemical from plant and make a synthetic version of it and then adulterate it with toxic chemicals and call it medicine. So they utilise the active chemical in the plant in a proper dose rather than just guesswork. By the way, if there is any truth in what you say about the plant extract on this website you're involved in, send me a link via private message so I can have a look. Believe it or not, I'm still looking for a cure. ........................................................ Turns out one don't need the toxic chemicals in the pharma drugs. I can't use the message feature sadly but I don't mind posting the links here. Ginkgo May Sensitize Ovarian Cancer Cells to Cisplatin: Antiproliferative and Apoptosis-Inducing Effects of Ginkgolide B on Ovarian Cancer Cells. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] The Synergistic Apoptotic Interaction of Panaxadiol and Epigallocatechin Gallate in Human Colorectal Cancer Cells. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Additively enhanced antiproliferative effect of interferon combined with proanthocyanidin on bladder cancer cells. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Not sure whats up with the site as the quotes are a bit nuts today hehe There are plenty of examples of natural substances enhancing drug therapies (and also the opposite). The likes of grapefruit and cranberry juice have very well documented interactions with common drugs however, you really can't tell just from drinking juice how much you're ingesting. So you may be taking enough or you may not, there are too many variations in the natural world to ensure youre taking in the correct dose Hence why the active compounds from these natural medicines are extracted and titrated to ensure an effective dose. The majority or medicines have at some point been drived from naturally occurring plants and minerals. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1568805 09/04/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would opt out. In my opinion, surgery always makes cancer spread. Exposing cancer to oxygen feeds it. Quoting: Renegade (Me too) Chemo and radiation makes a person very sick and weakens autoimmune system. Try alternatives: MMS. MMS MMS MMS WIL NOT CURE CANCER Jim Humble website,an snippet from his blog. [link to genesis2forum.org] first post on page. . Unfortunatly on the tuesday she died and I dont understand why,with the amount of MMS.etc. she was given by her daughter who followed the instructions (she is a Vetenarian) so she is well used to this with animals I was very optomistic but to no avail. Also its a small island and I am now worried that I and MMS will get a bad name. MMS has worked with most minor problems over the last 5 years but the big C still cant be cured and it is almost a pandemic here.Also I had a young lady in England who died rather than try it |