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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23072941 09/02/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't for get bath sheba was married before king solomon was born First: Uriah the Hittite (a 'mighty man of valor.')(2 Samuel 11:3) and then King David (2 Samuel 11:27) it was costem then for girls to be married at three years and one day old |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23072941 09/02/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the common law the age at which minors were capable of marrying, known as the age of consent, was fixed at fourteen years for males and twelve years for females. Marriages under the age of seven years for both were void, but between seven and the age of consent the parties could contract an imperfect marriage, which was voidable but not necessarily void. The marriage of parties who had attained the age of consent was valid even though they lacked parental consent, until in England the marriage act of 1753 declared such marriages void. This act, however, has never been the law in the United States. In England under the statute of 32 Henry VIII, c.38, all marriages were made lawful between parties not within the Levitical degrees of relationship; this was interpreted to mean all marriages excepting those between relatives in the direct line and in the collateral line to the third degree, according to the rules of the Civil Law, including both the whole and the half blood. In the United States, in the absence of statutes to the contrary, marriages are unlawful only in the direct ascending and descending line of consanguinity and between brothers and sisters. In most, if not all, of the States, however, there are statutes covering this subject, and in a number of them marriages between first cousins are forbidden. Marriages that are made without formalities, but by the mere consent of the parties, are known as common law marriages. In order to make such marriages effective, there must be a present intention to make the contract and it must be expressed accordingly,(in other words, "per verba de praesenti". Words expressing a future intention do not give the necessary consent, but when words are used with the future intention apparently, followed by consummation, or, as it is said, "per verba de futuro cum copula', a marriage is constituted, the future promise having been converted by action into an actual marriage. Marriages contracted without conforming to a statutory regulations are valid in a number of states and not in others. Formal solemnization is unnecessary. Where no penalty for disobedience of statutory formalities is provided, their omission does not invalidate the marriage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23072941 so 14 for boys and 12 for girls but it was possible to sleep with a girl at seven to seal a promise of marriage as once the deed was done the marriage was considered for life look at the dates not a thousand years ago |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23072941 09/02/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Kings 11:1-3 reports, But King Solomon loved many foreign women, as well as the daughter of Pharaoh: women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites; from the nations of whom the LORD had said to the children of Israel, “You shall not intermarry with them, nor they with you. Surely they will turn away your hearts after their gods.” Solomon clung to these in love. And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives turned away his heart. First Kings 11:1-3 indicates that King Solomon had 700 hundred wives and 300 hundred concubines, many from lands of which God had previously instructed the Israelites to avoid intermarrying. God knew that such intermarrying would lead to the worship of false gods. Why, then, did Solomon do this? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1229642 09/02/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the common law the age at which minors were capable of marrying, known as the age of consent, was fixed at fourteen years for males and twelve years for females. Marriages under the age of seven years for both were void, but between seven and the age of consent the parties could contract an imperfect marriage, which was voidable but not necessarily void. The marriage of parties who had attained the age of consent was valid even though they lacked parental consent, until in England the marriage act of 1753 declared such marriages void. This act, however, has never been the law in the United States. In England under the statute of 32 Henry VIII, c.38, all marriages were made lawful between parties not within the Levitical degrees of relationship; this was interpreted to mean all marriages excepting those between relatives in the direct line and in the collateral line to the third degree, according to the rules of the Civil Law, including both the whole and the half blood. In the United States, in the absence of statutes to the contrary, marriages are unlawful only in the direct ascending and descending line of consanguinity and between brothers and sisters. In most, if not all, of the States, however, there are statutes covering this subject, and in a number of them marriages between first cousins are forbidden. Marriages that are made without formalities, but by the mere consent of the parties, are known as common law marriages. In order to make such marriages effective, there must be a present intention to make the contract and it must be expressed accordingly,(in other words, "per verba de praesenti". Words expressing a future intention do not give the necessary consent, but when words are used with the future intention apparently, followed by consummation, or, as it is said, "per verba de futuro cum copula', a marriage is constituted, the future promise having been converted by action into an actual marriage. Marriages contracted without conforming to a statutory regulations are valid in a number of states and not in others. Formal solemnization is unnecessary. Where no penalty for disobedience of statutory formalities is provided, their omission does not invalidate the marriage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23072941 To a large extent the pedophilia and other vile behavior of this Mohammed guy is not really relevant and should neither be the subject of attack or defense. What is relevant is that he pretended to be a "prophet" and manipulated the ignorance and superstition of a lot of people. The fact is that he is held up as some sort of ideal by ignorant people. The ignorance that leads to this kind of superstition molding peoples minds and the intractable stupidity it inculcates is much more of an issue. What we have is an illiterate guy who misunderstood some tracts of the bible and may have been in possession of knowledge derived writings that did not make it into the bible who went round portraying himself as a semi godlike figure for his own enrichment. I think that stands alone as condemnation of him, without reference to any peccadilloes he may have had. |
| NightWisp User ID: 942369 09/02/2012 11:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't for get bath sheba was married before king solomon was born Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23072941 First: Uriah the Hittite (a 'mighty man of valor.')(2 Samuel 11:3) and then King David (2 Samuel 11:27) it was costem then for girls to be married at three years and one day old Uriah was died and David married Bathsheba. Utiah was dead when Solomon was born. |
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| pool Still the Runt User ID: 18381151 09/02/2012 11:47 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is relevant is that he pretended to be a "prophet" and manipulated the ignorance and superstition of a lot of people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229642 What's powerful is his dream about building mecca. The rest is just normal. ... inclinations and biological temperament haven't changed much over thousands of years ... Julian Assange |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22801990 09/02/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriously whats the difference between outrage and rage? is it just another one of those meaningless words? Outage: is a controlled, conscious display of anger. You write a letter to the editor. Rage: is an uncontrolled, instinctual release of anger. You grab a baseball bat and bash things until you are too tired to go on. |
| Marxist User ID: 8512550 09/03/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muslims are just like Christians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23034999 Both of them just take for granted what their pastors or Imams say as the truth, not checking to see if the info they get is a lie. They both are religious mind slaves. ![]() Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1577797 09/03/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck the muzzies dirty smelly fanaticial bunch of dirty borwn cunts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23040485 FUCK THE MUZZIES AND THEIR FUCKING GOD BUNCH OF TERRORISTS AND THEY WONDER WHY THE DIRTY CUNTS GETS BOMBED. ![]() Fuck the muzzies dirty smelly fanaticial bunch of dirty borwn cunts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23040485 FUCK THE MUZZIES AND THEIR FUCKING GOD BUNCH OF TERRORISTS AND THEY WONDER WHY THE DIRTY CUNTS GETS BOMBED. ![]() Such a small mind. but vivid... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23088836 09/03/2012 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the common law the age at which minors were capable of marrying, known as the age of consent, was fixed at fourteen years for males and twelve years for females. Marriages under the age of seven years for both were void, but between seven and the age of consent the parties could contract an imperfect marriage, which was voidable but not necessarily void. The marriage of parties who had attained the age of consent was valid even though they lacked parental consent, until in England the marriage act of 1753 declared such marriages void. This act, however, has never been the law in the United States. In England under the statute of 32 Henry VIII, c.38, all marriages were made lawful between parties not within the Levitical degrees of relationship; this was interpreted to mean all marriages excepting those between relatives in the direct line and in the collateral line to the third degree, according to the rules of the Civil Law, including both the whole and the half blood. In the United States, in the absence of statutes to the contrary, marriages are unlawful only in the direct ascending and descending line of consanguinity and between brothers and sisters. In most, if not all, of the States, however, there are statutes covering this subject, and in a number of them marriages between first cousins are forbidden. Marriages that are made without formalities, but by the mere consent of the parties, are known as common law marriages. In order to make such marriages effective, there must be a present intention to make the contract and it must be expressed accordingly,(in other words, "per verba de praesenti". Words expressing a future intention do not give the necessary consent, but when words are used with the future intention apparently, followed by consummation, or, as it is said, "per verba de futuro cum copula', a marriage is constituted, the future promise having been converted by action into an actual marriage. Marriages contracted without conforming to a statutory regulations are valid in a number of states and not in others. Formal solemnization is unnecessary. Where no penalty for disobedience of statutory formalities is provided, their omission does not invalidate the marriage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23072941 To a large extent the pedophilia and other vile behavior of this Mohammed guy is not really relevant and should neither be the subject of attack or defense. What is relevant is that he pretended to be a "prophet" and manipulated the ignorance and superstition of a lot of people. The fact is that he is held up as some sort of ideal by ignorant people. The ignorance that leads to this kind of superstition molding peoples minds and the intractable stupidity it inculcates is much more of an issue. What we have is an illiterate guy who misunderstood some tracts of the bible and may have been in possession of knowledge derived writings that did not make it into the bible who went round portraying himself as a semi godlike figure for his own enrichment. I think that stands alone as condemnation of him, without reference to any peccadilloes he may have had. you are just like a dog all you can do is bark go to hell faggot |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432351 09/03/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muslims are just like Christians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23034999 Both of them just take for granted what their pastors or Imams say as the truth, not checking to see if the info they get is a lie. They both are religious mind slaves. Absolutely wrong. Not the same at all. The difference: Islam commands TODAYS followers to take up the sword against non-Islams. Where does the Bible command that? Nowhere. The Koran is a war manual, pure and simple. Read it. It is very clear. |