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Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?

 
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It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
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For many recognizing intelligent design is impossible because it means there is a higher intelligence than their own. They can't deny design because of the complexity of things so they just say it was formed NON-intelligently.
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It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


For many recognizing intelligent design is impossible because it means there is a higher intelligence than their own. They can't deny design because of the complexity of things so they just say it was formed NON-intelligently.
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For me, I believe in both, a higher intelligence AND evolution. Someone or something set things in motion somewhere at 1 point in time and left it all alone. From there, things evolved.
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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
Natural selection is perfectly capable of churning out sophisticated flying insects when the environment is favorable to such an insect.

When the environment changes too swiftly for creatures to evolve or adapt then extinction soon follows.

Did God design all the millions of species of animals and plants that have gone extinct?

Obviously the dinosaurs weren't designed very well because they all died off, or maybe Noah forgot to load them into his Ark?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
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It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


For many recognizing intelligent design is impossible because it means there is a higher intelligence than their own. They can't deny design because of the complexity of things so they just say it was formed NON-intelligently.
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For me, I believe in both, a higher intelligence AND evolution. Someone or something set things in motion somewhere at 1 point in time and left it all alone. From there, things evolved.
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Why do you believe things evolved? Can you point to one single piece of convincing evidence?
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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
Natural selection is perfectly capable of churning out sophisticated flying insects when the environment is favorable to such an insect.

When the environment changes too swiftly for creatures to evolve or adapt then extinction soon follows.

Did God design all the millions of species of animals and plants that have gone extinct?

Obviously the dinosaurs weren't designed very well because they all died off, or maybe Noah forgot to load them into his Ark?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
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It's not lazy at all and I have no idea why people use that line of argument.

How is it lazy to think that something of unimaginable complexity was built by a being of limitless intelligence?

Such a being could not logically be created, and could only possibly exist as a self created being. It's the definition of being all powerful

It's funny how atheists are willing to believe the universe can be self created, but refuse with all their stubborn might to accept the idea of a self created God.
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It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


For many recognizing intelligent design is impossible because it means there is a higher intelligence than their own. They can't deny design because of the complexity of things so they just say it was formed NON-intelligently.

For me, I believe in both, a higher intelligence AND evolution. Someone or something set things in motion somewhere at 1 point in time and left it all alone. From there, things evolved.
 Quoting: DGN


Why do you believe things evolved? Can you point to one single piece of convincing evidence?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


Eye color in humans lightened as they migrated to northern climates to help absorb vitamin d from the sun.

There are people alive today who never get wisdom teeth.

Look at the appendix, its a useless part of our body now, and there are people who arent even born with them anymore.

Here are some more,

[link to listverse.com]
Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
Natural selection is perfectly capable of churning out sophisticated flying insects when the environment is favorable to such an insect.

When the environment changes too swiftly for creatures to evolve or adapt then extinction soon follows.

Did God design all the millions of species of animals and plants that have gone extinct?

Obviously the dinosaurs weren't designed very well because they all died off, or maybe Noah forgot to load them into his Ark?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22898776


There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
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You should be A-OK then on judgment day. Nothing to see here on my threads, you can go now.

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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It's not lazy at all and I have no idea why people use that line of argument.

How is it lazy to think that something of unimaginable complexity was built by a being of limitless intelligence?

Such a being could not logically be created, and could only possibly exist as a self created being. It's the definition of being all powerful

It's funny how atheists are willing to believe the universe can be self created, but refuse with all their stubborn might to accept the idea of a self created God.
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I am no Atheist, but a self created GOD? Doesnt the Bible itself say that you cannot create something from nothing? I call it a lazy idea to say "GOD created all" because it doesnt make one think on their own, it just makes them belief an opinion to be true.
Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It's not lazy at all and I have no idea why people use that line of argument.

How is it lazy to think that something of unimaginable complexity was built by a being of limitless intelligence?

Such a being could not logically be created, and could only possibly exist as a self created being. It's the definition of being all powerful

It's funny how atheists are willing to believe the universe can be self created, but refuse with all their stubborn might to accept the idea of a self created God.
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I am no Atheist, but a self created GOD? Doesnt the Bible itself say that you cannot create something from nothing? I call it a lazy idea to say "GOD created all" because it doesnt make one think on their own, it just makes them belief an opinion to be true.
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I say it's even lazier to say the infinite complexity of the universe was created by nothing.
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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
Natural selection is perfectly capable of churning out sophisticated flying insects when the environment is favorable to such an insect.

When the environment changes too swiftly for creatures to evolve or adapt then extinction soon follows.

Did God design all the millions of species of animals and plants that have gone extinct?

Obviously the dinosaurs weren't designed very well because they all died off, or maybe Noah forgot to load them into his Ark?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22898776


There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17926316


There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

You should be A-OK then on judgment day.
 Quoting: DGN


I will be, you know why? Because if there is a single creator to all of this, I seriously doubt that the creator would be angry at me because I questioned the perversion of religion. I do not question our existence because there will never be an answer for as long as I live. I do not choose what religion is the right one. I just choose to live an honest life and form my ideas and opinions on things I can see, hear, read and experience for my self.
Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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It can't be explained. But too say, GOD DID IT, is just lazy. Remember when the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It's not lazy at all and I have no idea why people use that line of argument.

How is it lazy to think that something of unimaginable complexity was built by a being of limitless intelligence?

Such a being could not logically be created, and could only possibly exist as a self created being. It's the definition of being all powerful

It's funny how atheists are willing to believe the universe can be self created, but refuse with all their stubborn might to accept the idea of a self created God.
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I am no Atheist, but a self created GOD? Doesnt the Bible itself say that you cannot create something from nothing? I call it a lazy idea to say "GOD created all" because it doesnt make one think on their own, it just makes them belief an opinion to be true.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

I say it's even lazier to say the infinite complexity of the universe was created by nothing.
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I agree, but thats why brilliant minds work constantly to learn about the brilliant, infinite complexities of the universe. Simple minds have Bible study twice a week and think that will save them.
Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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who is "lady bugs chuck"?
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who is "lady bugs chuck"?
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For many recognizing intelligent design is impossible because it means there is a higher intelligence than their own. They can't deny design because of the complexity of things so they just say it was formed NON-intelligently.

For me, I believe in both, a higher intelligence AND evolution. Someone or something set things in motion somewhere at 1 point in time and left it all alone. From there, things evolved.
 Quoting: DGN


Why do you believe things evolved? Can you point to one single piece of convincing evidence?
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


Eye color in humans lightened as they migrated to northern climates to help absorb vitamin d from the sun.

There are people alive today who never get wisdom teeth.

Look at the appendix, its a useless part of our body now, and there are people who arent even born with them anymore.

Here are some more,

[link to listverse.com]
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You are really grasping for straws here. Based on this, you believe Cheetahs and Grass evolved from the same ancestor?
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It's not lazy at all and I have no idea why people use that line of argument.

How is it lazy to think that something of unimaginable complexity was built by a being of limitless intelligence?

Such a being could not logically be created, and could only possibly exist as a self created being. It's the definition of being all powerful

It's funny how atheists are willing to believe the universe can be self created, but refuse with all their stubborn might to accept the idea of a self created God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17926316


I am no Atheist, but a self created GOD? Doesnt the Bible itself say that you cannot create something from nothing? I call it a lazy idea to say "GOD created all" because it doesnt make one think on their own, it just makes them belief an opinion to be true.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

I say it's even lazier to say the infinite complexity of the universe was created by nothing.
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I agree, but thats why brilliant minds work constantly to learn about the brilliant, infinite complexities of the universe. Simple minds have Bible study twice a week and think that will save them.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


The 'brilliant, infinite complexities of the universe'. They admit the universe has a designer without even realizing it.
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

You should be A-OK then on judgment day.
 Quoting: DGN


I will be, you know why? Because if there is a single creator to all of this, I seriously doubt that the creator would be angry at me because I questioned the perversion of religion. I do not question our existence because there will never be an answer for as long as I live. I do not choose what religion is the right one. I just choose to live an honest life and form my ideas and opinions on things I can see, hear, read and experience for my self.
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Ok, judgment day is not one of rejection, but it reveals who will be granted survival thru the great tribulation.
Questioning religion is encouraged, read Jehovah's destruction of it in Rv18.
As for the purpose of our existence, it begins with him giving Adam the Garden of Eden and telling him;
"And God went on to say: “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” 21 And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good. 22 With that God blessed them, saying: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the waters in the sea basins, and let the flying creatures become many in the earth.” 23 And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day." Ge1:20

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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

You should be A-OK then on judgment day.
 Quoting: DGN


I will be, you know why? Because if there is a single creator to all of this, I seriously doubt that the creator would be angry at me because I questioned the perversion of religion. I do not question our existence because there will never be an answer for as long as I live. I do not choose what religion is the right one. I just choose to live an honest life and form my ideas and opinions on things I can see, hear, read and experience for my self.
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Why do you assume I don't question the perversion of religion?

If a being an all powerful being did not create this universe, than what is your explanation for what did?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea one species can transform into another via natural selection.

How in the world do you explain the seemingly endless number of genetically inherited problems among purebred dogs?
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

You should be A-OK then on judgment day.
 Quoting: DGN


I will be, you know why? Because if there is a single creator to all of this, I seriously doubt that the creator would be angry at me because I questioned the perversion of religion. I do not question our existence because there will never be an answer for as long as I live. I do not choose what religion is the right one. I just choose to live an honest life and form my ideas and opinions on things I can see, hear, read and experience for my self.
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How do you know there will never be an answer? What if the answer is accessible through faith?

You're certainly putting a great deal of faith into your own reasoning ability. Why not actually put some faith into seeking your Creator? Are you afraid you'll get a response and it will change your life?

We already know inference to the best rational explanation points towards intelligent design, and firmly away from the garbled nonsense of random accidents and dumb mutations. That should be enough to humble anyone to the obvious. We were created.
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There is absolutely zero evidence, and I mean not the slightest shred of evidence, that supports the idea that one almighty being created all that we know that makes up our planet.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel

You should be A-OK then on judgment day.
 Quoting: DGN


I will be, you know why? Because if there is a single creator to all of this, I seriously doubt that the creator would be angry at me because I questioned the perversion of religion. I do not question our existence because there will never be an answer for as long as I live. I do not choose what religion is the right one. I just choose to live an honest life and form my ideas and opinions on things I can see, hear, read and experience for my self.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


How do you know there will never be an answer? What if the answer is accessible through faith?

You're certainly putting a great deal of faith into your own reasoning ability. Why not actually put some faith into seeking your Creator? Are you afraid you'll get a response and it will change your life?

We already know inference to the best rational explanation points towards intelligent design, and firmly away from the garbled nonsense of random accidents and dumb mutations. That should be enough to humble anyone to the obvious. We were created.
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Excellent response AC519, here's your back up;
"Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest, for fear anyone should fall in the same pattern of disobedience.  For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart.  And there is not a creation that is not manifest to his sight, but all things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him with whom we have an accounting." He4:11
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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
Its easier to propel yourself thru air, than it is thru water. creatures that developed in water and moved to land will have the ability to sense deviations in the air, if they can already do it in the water.

Who designed the ladybugs wings? The ladybug did. ;)
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Its easier to propel yourself thru air, than it is thru water. creatures that developed in water and moved to land will have the ability to sense deviations in the air, if they can already do it in the water.

Who designed the ladybugs wings? The ladybug did. ;)
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I didn't know they are such advanced aeronautical engineers, thanks for the tip. By the way, having a superior human mind would you please post the molecular blueprints for their wings? At least the first 100,000, the entire dna code would take to long to understand.
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Combo of MICRO evolution (which is observable) and intelligent design my guess. Something like the curious case of the electric eel.
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Combo of MICRO evolution (which is observable) and intelligent design my guess. Something like the curious case of the electric eel.
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Man can make functional wings for airplanes, but not biologically out of cells. "Evolution" is an anti-scientific word that means 'never mind the science of intelligent design/assembly, just deny the DNA blueprints). Can mutant cells really accidentally form working wings for bugs?

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so what did this god do for an eternity, all alone by itself, nothing ever even had existed except God, before it decided to create the universe?

your religion is bullshit.
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so what did this god do for an eternity, all alone by itself, nothing ever even had existed except God, before it decided to create the universe?

your religion is bullshit.
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We really must not even exist, right?
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Don't you have anything better to do? Get a fucking life DGN. Every goddamn day you post a goddamn thread about goddamn evolution, who gives a goddamn fuck about your goddamn bible quotes you goddamn religitard! 1 star. suck it.
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Combo of MICRO evolution (which is observable) and intelligent design my guess. Something like the curious case of the electric eel.
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Man can make functional wings for airplanes, but not biologically out of cells. "Evolution" is an anti-scientific word that means 'never mind the science of intelligent design/assembly, just deny the DNA blueprints). Can mutant cells really accidentally form working wings for bugs?
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Just like the maple tree aerodynamically designed its seedlings by watching them fall to the ground over millions of years and making tiny adjustments. (With a little help from the Evolution Fairies, of course!)

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Don't you have anything better to do? Get a fucking life DGN. Every goddamn day you post a goddamn thread about goddamn evolution, who gives a goddamn fuck about your goddamn bible quotes you goddamn religitard! 1 star. suck it.
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Are you really this terrified at the obvious truth that you have an intelligent creator?

So much easier to believe in the 'religion of nothing', isn't it?
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Re: Folding wings on jets are intelligently designed. Who designed them for Lady Bugs Chuck, mindless 'evolution"?
Natural selection is perfectly capable of churning out sophisticated flying insects when the environment is favorable to such an insect.

When the environment changes too swiftly for creatures to evolve or adapt then extinction soon follows.

Did God design all the millions of species of animals and plants that have gone extinct?

Obviously the dinosaurs weren't designed very well because they all died off, or maybe Noah forgot to load them into his Ark?
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So why is it not working with human beings? I know a lot of people who would love to grow wings in order to be able to fly.

Why is evolution not granting their humble wishes and churns out winged people? Or has the environment not been favorable?