BREAKING: Debt to Be Wiped Out, Budget Deficit to Be Erased October 1st | |
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Saddletramp User ID: 740208 Puerto Rico 09/02/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minutes. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 09/02/2012 02:23 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5490382 United States 09/02/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! Quoting: Saddletramp But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minuts. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22997087 United States 09/02/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! Quoting: Saddletramp But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minuts. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... The only way this would work is if all debt was wiped out. Meaning personal debt, state debt, and national debt. It would mean we would go to bed one night, and wake up the next day debt free. It would completely destroy anyone who didn't have tangible assets. Say goodbye to anything of value written on paper, including all retirement funds, treasuries, bonds, most stocks that were backed by nothing other than high frequency trading and the illusion of commodities or assets. Then you would have total loss of faith in currencies as well. Paying taxes to a bankrupt fraudulent government may also be hard to convince people to do. ALso you may see our military come home in defeat, not because it was destroyed, but like the old soviet military it wouldn't be funded. Say good bye to social security, medicate, or any other government program (good thing they stocked up on bullets) King dollar days would definitely be gone, and so would the America taxing the rest of the world way of life that we proclaimed was due to our brilliance and industries which no longer exist. You are right, people would starve, some would riot, and some nations would spin into chaos, but that's coming anyway. I would rather rip it off like a band-aid then live it for the next 10 years. |
Rambaldi (OP) User ID: 18747276 United States 09/02/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! Quoting: Saddletramp But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minutes. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... So, you're saying that would be "bad?" "There is no spoon." |
MB713 User ID: 21192773 United States 09/02/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry guys, my technical English isn't that great, what does that mean exactly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379 Should i go take a 100K euro loan on 30 september and see it is vanished on the 1st of october? :-) What it means is you should have all your CASH out of banks on Oct. 1 (IF this is going to happen!). And then you could havee that loan you took out, too, and watch it evaporate on Oct. 1! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23056409 United Kingdom 09/02/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF he's right...and that's a big IF...October 1st could be the most important date in our planet's history. Quoting: Rambaldi The most important day in our planets history? Bigger than the Birth of Jesus, the Floods, Roswell UFO Crash? First Nuke test and so forth. Yes, paper really is more important than that. Oh and let us not forget the two world wars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21963969 United States 09/02/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! Quoting: Saddletramp But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minuts. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... The only way this would work is if all debt was wiped out. Meaning personal debt, state debt, and national debt. It would mean we would go to bed one night, and wake up the next day debt free. It would completely destroy anyone who didn't have tangible assets. Say goodbye to anything of value written on paper, including all retirement funds, treasuries, bonds, most stocks that were backed by nothing other than high frequency trading and the illusion of commodities or assets. Then you would have total loss of faith in currencies as well. Paying taxes to a bankrupt fraudulent government may also be hard to convince people to do. ALso you may see our military come home in defeat, not because it was destroyed, but like the old soviet military it wouldn't be funded. Say good bye to social security, medicate, or any other government program (good thing they stocked up on bullets) King dollar days would definitely be gone, and so would the America taxing the rest of the world way of life that we proclaimed was due to our brilliance and industries which no longer exist. You are right, people would starve, some would riot, and some nations would spin into chaos, but that's coming anyway. I would rather rip it off like a band-aid then live it for the next 10 years. Yes |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5398883 United States 09/02/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would mean a end to the federal reserve bank and banking controll through usury. An end to the IRS as we know it. Like what happend in Iceland, kick out the bankers and establish a new form of government. An end to fake money out of thin air. It is not a bad thing, People should be happy about the change many have given their lives for and worked for so long. It has been a long hard war against banking corruption and rule. Let us hope this time it does happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12339688 United States 09/02/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They give themselves a title like: International Intelligence Expert The mere words "intelligence expert" fools 80% of the population. LOL If you were an intelligence expert, do you think you should be sharing news like that before the govt. intelligence organization wants it shared? If they wanted it shared to mislead you, they would make it look like it was a leak by a so called intelligence expert. So much bullshit in the world to wade through. LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12339688 United States 09/02/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would mean a end to the federal reserve bank and banking controll through usury. An end to the IRS as we know it. Like what happend in Iceland, kick out the bankers and establish a new form of government. An end to fake money out of thin air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5398883 It is not a bad thing, People should be happy about the change many have given their lives for and worked for so long. It has been a long hard war against banking corruption and rule. Let us hope this time it does happen. No it would mean you have made some assumptions that likely will not prevail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19316597 United States 09/02/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not just delcair all of Wallstreet to be useless parasites and have them all thrown in jail for illegal drug possesion - ham samwichs for one and all. Then the Feds can sieze all of the bloodsucking parasites assets and use them to pay off the debt and return prosperity to the planet. Whats not to love? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12339688 United States 09/02/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! Quoting: Saddletramp But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minuts. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... The only way this would work is if all debt was wiped out. Meaning personal debt, state debt, and national debt. It would mean we would go to bed one night, and wake up the next day debt free. It would completely destroy anyone who didn't have tangible assets. Say goodbye to anything of value written on paper, including all retirement funds, treasuries, bonds, most stocks that were backed by nothing other than high frequency trading and the illusion of commodities or assets. Then you would have total loss of faith in currencies as well. Paying taxes to a bankrupt fraudulent government may also be hard to convince people to do. ALso you may see our military come home in defeat, not because it was destroyed, but like the old soviet military it wouldn't be funded. Say good bye to social security, medicate, or any other government program (good thing they stocked up on bullets) King dollar days would definitely be gone, and so would the America taxing the rest of the world way of life that we proclaimed was due to our brilliance and industries which no longer exist. You are right, people would starve, some would riot, and some nations would spin into chaos, but that's coming anyway. I would rather rip it off like a band-aid then live it for the next 10 years. Yes Wake up debt free and broke with no way to make money to buy necessities. Old folks dropping like flies with no medications, air conditioning, Dr. care, etc. No way to pay the morticians, I guess bury them in the back yard. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5398883 United States 09/02/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would mean a end to the federal reserve bank and banking controll through usury. An end to the IRS as we know it. Like what happend in Iceland, kick out the bankers and establish a new form of government. An end to fake money out of thin air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5398883 It is not a bad thing, People should be happy about the change many have given their lives for and worked for so long. It has been a long hard war against banking corruption and rule. Let us hope this time it does happen. This is just a phase of a long road, If/ when, "Amb. Lee {Leo} A Wanta" recieves funds, the tax off that would pay off a good portion of debt. Time will tell if we can / will go as far as Iceland. It is a war against an unlawful federal reserve. Leo has some good plans for the funds. Ineresting read, look it up. Also look V.K. Durham, Durham trust / gold bonds. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22849605 Puerto Rico 09/02/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing Reseting Economy is Jobs & manufacture (Production) you dont save economy saving the banks that created it in the first place ... the Banks are the problem ... let them collapse .. bail out people not the fucking banks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22116104 United States 09/02/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How to spot a distributor of propaganda BS? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12339688 They give themselves a title like: International Intelligence Expert The mere words "intelligence expert" fools 80% of the population. LOL If you were an intelligence expert, do you think you should be sharing news like that before the govt. intelligence organization wants it shared? If they wanted it shared to mislead you, they would make it look like it was a leak by a so called intelligence expert. So much bullshit in the world to wade through. LOL They have adsense on their website. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5398883 United States 09/02/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya right, take away your slave masters and you will all starve and kill each other? I had more hope for mankind than self imposed salvery. You are acting like infants. Let Iceland be an example they kicked bankers out of government and arrested them. Are they at war and starving with no health care. No. Grow up and get some balls and join the effort. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19316597 United States 09/02/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya right, take away your slave masters and you will all starve and kill each other? I had more hope for mankind than self imposed salvery. You are acting like infants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5398883 Let Iceland be an example they kicked bankers out of government and arrested them. Are they at war and starving with no health care. No. Grow up and get some balls and join the effort. ^this^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22908497 United States 09/02/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would be disasterous in a way I can't even describe! Quoting: Saddletramp But let me fill you in for the people that say the debt is a "Fraud" and an "Illusion". The United States is the example I will use, since I am most familiar with it's banking regs and Federal Reserve Policies. The United States has approximately 25 Trillion in Treasury Bonds of various maturities outstanding on the world markets. If you said all debt goes to zero (which is a fairytale) that would wipe out 25 Trillion in wealth around the world, overnight! Countries heavily invested in Treasuries such as China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan would be wiped out and put into essential sovereign default overnight. This would begin a chain reacation that would cause an economic shutdown around the globe. Millions to Billions would starve within months. Inside the United States our Federal and State banks put their reserves in Treasury Bonds which they buy from the Federal Reserve, they can pledge these bonds back to the Fed for liquidity and capital needs. If you wiped out this debt, you would see almost every bank in the United States go bankrupt overnight. All wealth in this country would be nullified. Banks would lack essential liquidity to fund customer accounts, the FDIC would be out of business within minutes. Customer's accounts, including all business accounts in the country would vaporize into thin air with no recourse. The value of the dollar would go into free fall. Hyperinflation would be unprecedented and everyone in America would join in the poverty. Commodities would be at a premium, but they would be so expensive they would be out of reach for almost every citizen of the country. Riots and social unrest would explode within hours, starvation would become a reality in the richest country in the world within months. In essence, Chaos... You don't understand, do you? ALL of that fraudulent paper is based upon itself. It's a circular argument. You can wipe it all out and NOTHING will change because everybody - EVERYBODY - was using NOTHING based on NOTHING in the first place. Nothing will blow up or fall down or collapse because nothing existed in the first place. That said, whoever posted this is full of BS. No debt will be wiped out because the Rothschilds don't ever forgive debt. Period. But the good part is that there is no such thing as debt when it is all just fake FRNs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3855876 United States 09/02/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya right, take away your slave masters and you will all starve and kill each other? I had more hope for mankind than self imposed salvery. You are acting like infants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5398883 Let Iceland be an example they kicked bankers out of government and arrested them. Are they at war and starving with no health care. No. Grow up and get some balls and join the effort. This Control alt delete |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5398883 United States 09/02/2012 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of you know what the Wanta-Reagan-Mitterrand Protocols consists of? How did it come about? Who is Leo Wanta? What does He plan to do with the funds? How much money are we talking about? {hint, 27 T} I have his email addy but do not want a bunch of childish ignorant attacks on Him, He has been through enough. Look it up. |
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bvndy User ID: 22365385 United States 09/02/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | debt liquidation is going to happen sooner or later. Either automatically or with help. The ancients had something called a jubilee, where all debt was wiped out every seven years. This was carried into common law, and now is part of the bankruptcy law, you cannot go bankrupt until seven years after being bankrupt. There are currently 500 trillion in derivatives, over 150 trillion in unfunded debt by the govt, including social insecurity, medicare, etc. And Obamacare would add 400 trillion. Anybody that thinks this will be paid is delusional You can ignore the consequences of your actions, but you cannot ignore the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions Ayn Rand |