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I've stumbled upon this forum before and today I decided to stop in. I've been writing a lot lately about the shooting in Aurora Colorado and the increasing number of false flag indicators that suggest the "official" story is not what it seems. I'd love to have your thoughts and help point out what I might be missing. My topics on James Holmes can be found here:

[link to www.thedevilsadvocates.info]

In addition, I have been compiling the official conspiracy timeline here:

[link to www.thedevilsadvocates.info]

Thoughts and feedback here or there would be greatly appreciated!

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I've stumbled upon this forum before and today I decided to stop in. I've been writing a lot lately about the shooting in Aurora Colorado and the increasing number of false flag indicators that suggest the "official" story is not what it seems. I'd love to have your thoughts and help point out what I might be missing. My topics on James Holmes can be found here:

[link to www.thedevilsadvocates.info]

Thoughts and feedback here or there would be greatly appreciated!

pennywise
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Nice job, just a couple of comments.
They won't be identifying it as his number, if this is correct:

[link to www.latimes.com]

Fixler said after learning about the hearing and anticipating questions, he checked switchboard records and discovered that at “12:31 a.m. July 20, we did receive a phone call that lasted seven seconds to our main switchboard.” He said tht after the operator greeted the caller, there were “a couple seconds of silence and then a hang-up.”
It was also the only unidentified caller.

Also, I don't think someone stayed back to turn the music on. The place was so rigged that trying to get out of there quickly with music that loud on would be risky as far as being seen and setting it off. I think it was probably set up to go off at midnight.

It's possible Holmes was outside drugged up and knew what was about to happen so he tried to call her but he was too drugged up to even talk.

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I've stumbled upon this forum before and today I decided to stop in. I've been writing a lot lately about the shooting in Aurora Colorado and the increasing number of false flag indicators that suggest the "official" story is not what it seems. I'd love to have your thoughts and help point out what I might be missing. My topics on James Holmes can be found here:

[link to www.thedevilsadvocates.info]

In addition, I have been compiling the official conspiracy timeline here:

[link to www.thedevilsadvocates.info]

Thoughts and feedback here or there would be greatly appreciated!

pennywise
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It is very easy to see that James Holmes is a Manchurian candidate.He is our government at work in getting rid of guns.
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it is easy to see because Holder is in the limelight with The whole scam of being attached to the drug cartel.

In reality the Fed is in bed with the drug cartel.
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Which explains why the United States of America has the highest prison population in the whole known world.Because of the crooks that run our government.
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Good article, Little Fish. That one said specifically that they don't know if it was James Holmes on the call. Obviously if the caller said nothing there would be no way to know, but if they checked phone records and can't link up the phone number to James Holmes cell, that's an interesting development as well.
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Anonymous Coward, I've been keeping an eye on the gun control angle. The reason I haven't jumped 100%$ aboard is that I don't see this shooting as something that is going to put the nail in the coffin for gun owners so to speak. While it is a big story, there are lots of big stories and I don't know that this one has enough impact to suddenly make gun control possible when it wasn't before. I'm not sure if I'm making my point clear, but basically, I'm looking for why THIS shooting will let them take action and not all the other shootings going on. Or do you think all of the shoots are staged? Would love to hear your thoughts.
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Why the interest in this? In live we can not understand or control the actions of others. What if you "knew" that almost everything that happens --big, like headline news....is rigged, planned, false, and meant to push your buttons, move you to a desired state and the focus on this subject is another way of them controlling you.

Yes, this is a conspiracy site, and the Holmes thing was dissected to death.

In the end what if everything you notice or discover is true--how does that "help" your life? What will you do or change about your life because of this info, or will you have discovered that you can't do anything about it, become depressed, and realize that you wasted a huge chunk of time you could have spent on something meaningful in your short time here.

A person could spend a lifetime researching 911, Federal Reserve, Aliens, GMO's, Chem trails, FEMA camps, chipping, Gaby Giffords, Jon Bennet Ramsey, OJ Simpson, Laurel Canyon, Fluoride, vaccinations, Moon Landing, Politics, HAARP, Cell Towers, JFK, MLK, and the "next" headline news story that is leading you away from the truth of self knowledge, self power, self healing, and giving to your loved ones, your friends, your community and the world as a whole.

Just a cautionary tale, this can be addicting and has the same debilitating results.
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As for Holmes the key (to me) was in who his father was and what he was about to do.

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stillhere, I get your point though the same can be said about just about ANYTHING people do (like watch television, read a book, etc). One could ask, "what is it really going to get you in life? Why not do something meaningful?" For some, life has meaning when we engage in things that interest us. These topics interest me, they engage my mind, they make me think, and I like to share with others and have a sharing of ideas. I could "waste" my time in a million ways, this is just one of them I choose to do. It's my hope that if enough people start seeing what's happening that things can change, but probably not. It's way bigger than any of us. Having said that, it is still something I enjoy just like someone else might enjoy playing cards.

As to who Robert Holmes is and what he was about to do, that is something I'd like to PROVE with some reputable sources. The "rumor" is that he was about to expose a fraud worth trillions of dollars in the largest financial fraud the world has ever seen. His background certainly fits a man who could do that. However, not a single mainstream media source is talking about it and I cannot prove he ever was scheduled to testify before congress. Does ANYONE have a legitimate source (like a link to the congressional record showing he was on slate to appear)? I haven't found anything. As you pointed out, this would be a HUGE piece of the puzzle. It's on my timeline but I'm still looking to support the claim with some good evidence.

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stillhere, I get your point though the same can be said about just about ANYTHING people do (like watch television, read a book, etc). One could ask, "what is it really going to get you in life? Why not do something meaningful?" For some, life has meaning when we engage in things that interest us. These topics interest me, they engage my mind, they make me think, and I like to share with others and have a sharing of ideas. I could "waste" my time in a million ways, this is just one of them I choose to do. It's my hope that if enough people start seeing what's happening that things can change, but probably not. It's way bigger than any of us. Having said that, it is still something I enjoy just like someone else might enjoy playing cards.

As to who Robert Holmes is and what he was about to do, that is something I'd like to PROVE with some reputable sources. The "rumor" is that he was about to expose a fraud worth trillions of dollars in the largest financial fraud the world has ever seen. His background certainly fits a man who could do that. However, not a single mainstream media source is talking about it and I cannot prove he ever was scheduled to testify before congress. Does ANYONE have a legitimate source (like a link to the congressional record showing he was on slate to appear)? I haven't found anything. As you pointed out, this would be a HUGE piece of the puzzle. It's on my timeline but I'm still looking to support the claim with some good evidence.
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I understand, I'm guilty of the same and often give the advice I most need to hear myself.

I believe with any real conspiracy like JFK, there are many false leads to lead people astray. After all this time people have many different and plausible theories about the moon landing, JFK, OJ, MLK, Marilyn Munroe....Yet is it ever possible to really know the truth, the whole truth. There are layers to all truth, and more layers.

I remember it being mentioned here about his father many times--I thought there were links and proof of this, you can search this site. Good luck in your quest, plenty of people are interested in this event.
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no doubt it's a conspiracy mate, just look at the video of Empire State shooting. all parts of a massive operation where people get hurt or die
If the most important knowledge was shared openly with everyone it would surely be Vulgarized.

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Not sure this deserves a new thread but I stumbled upon the video of an eye witness claiming to have had drinks with James Holmes two nights before the shooting when James supposedly had brown hair. What do you think? Was it James or were the eye witnesses wrong? I shared a link to the video in this article:

[link to www.thedevilsadvocates.info]
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Interesting news story from the Devil's Advocate...

I recall discussing the father--here is an interesting link:

This is what is written in the google search link---

"www.huffingtonpost.com/.../robert-holmes-james-holmes-father​-arri...Jul 20, 2012 – Robert Holmes, the father of suspected shooter James Holmes, arrived in ... LIBOR blackmail of Robert Holmes (James father) who was set to testify for prosecution. .... And what did the father have that is to be kept in control?"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

But....when you click on the article there is NO mention of the father and testifying for the prosecution --LIBOR blackmail......

So one might suspect the site was scrubbed--but they neglected the google link.

and this...... [link to I_Wish_I-Was_GLP.com (secure)]

My guess--he was (the father) threatened, and refused thinking the law would protect him and the world is fair and good having never encountered true evil in action.

They pull this stunt with a "fake" son--let his son live free but with a new identity, or did this to his son and then threatened the wife or other kids--and knowing they would do it he complied.

If this is true I would think a heart attack or car accident or suicide might be in his future before he can change his mind--and most will believe all the stress about his son caused his heart to fail or caused him to commit suicide....

Just kicking around ideas--don't "know" anything.

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stillhere, that would be huge! You provided the link to the scrubbed article, but can you provide a screen shot or something of the google blurb that shows some of the removed material? If I can confirm that, I've got another article to write! LOL

According to the news story you linked it has not been updated (both posted and updated dates are identical)

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Very good site, I'll be checking in often.

Could you please make your links open into a new tab? thanks.
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I typed in "did holms father testify" into google search-- this is a cut and paste of what came up that I clicked on--

I don't know how to do a screen shot save--but if you type in "did holms father testify" this is what comes up I cut and pasted the following

"Batman Shooting: Robert Holmes, Shooter James Holmes' Father ...
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../robert-holmes-james-holmes-father-​arri...Jul 20, 2012 – Robert Holmes, the father of suspected shooter James Holmes, arrived in ... LIBOR blackmail of Robert Holmes (James father) who was set to testify for prosecution. .... And what did the father have that is to be kept in control?"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

I recall--just off the top of my head, that the huffington post was sold a while back and is no longer the "free" press it once was--but that is something I just recall reading.
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The above was me--forgot to log in first.

So....the material in the link is definitely not in the article now.

Another source--but I guess they are all unconfirmed--

[link to www.silverdoctors.com]

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stillhere....I just solved the mystery. Unfortunately it turned out not to be a big deal. What you are seeing is COMMENTS on the article that are showing up because the key words you searched for are grabbing them from the comments. The actual article does not appear to have been edited/redacted.

Thanks for giving me more information on that though!
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OK, that makes sense--still, should be some confirmation about if he testified or not. (somewhere)hf--more info, but no confirmation

[link to heavensclimb.blogspot.com]

Interestingly, this report notes, James Holmes is extremely intelligent, a gifted scientist and grew up in an affluent neighborhood; an eerie similarity he shares with other noted American killers of the past 3 decades including Andrew Cunanan, John Gardner, John Hinckley, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.
Robert Holmes, whose "blueblood" family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.
The massive banking crime being investigated by the US Senate is called the LIBOR Scandal where UK banks fixed the London Interbank Borrowing Rate with the complicity of the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve (which knew about this crime for 4 years and didn't report it) and many other major Western banks.
Not known to the majority of those affected by this LIBOR rate scandal (which is everyone in the world) is that its historically low setting of interests rates since the beginning of the Global Financial Crisis of 2007-2012 has done more to destroy the life savings, stock investments and retirements of Americas middle class than any other single event in their entire history.

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Brubaker, I'm not sure how to make my links open in another tab but I'd be more than willing to code it that way in the future if you help me out a little.

stillhere, I have been able to verify almost everything said about Robert Holmes except that he was set to testify before Congress. I did confirm who he worked for and that he is a brilliant statistician who specializes in discovering fraud so his credentials are legit. Whether or not he was going to blow the lid on a huge scam is still debatable as it is only being reported by blogs and such. I'd like some decently large paper or news agency to report on it but so far, no luck.
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Interesting news story from the Devil's Advocate...

I recall discussing the father--here is an interesting link:

This is what is written in the google search link---

"www.huffingtonpost.com/.../robert-holmes-james-holmes-father​-arri...Jul 20, 2012 – Robert Holmes, the father of suspected shooter James Holmes, arrived in ... LIBOR blackmail of Robert Holmes (James father) who was set to testify for prosecution. .... And what did the father have that is to be kept in control?"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

But....when you click on the article there is NO mention of the father and testifying for the prosecution --LIBOR blackmail......

So one might suspect the site was scrubbed--but they neglected the google link.

and this...... [link to I_Wish_I-Was_GLP.com (secure)]

My guess--he was (the father) threatened, and refused thinking the law would protect him and the world is fair and good having never encountered true evil in action.

They pull this stunt with a "fake" son--let his son live free but with a new identity, or did this to his son and then threatened the wife or other kids--and knowing they would do it he complied.

If this is true I would think a heart attack or car accident or suicide might be in his future before he can change his mind--and most will believe all the stress about his son caused his heart to fail or caused him to commit suicide....

Just kicking around ideas--don't "know" anything.
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I believe it as to why I feel my life is on the line! I am a victim of a mob crime and a witness to a mob crime and the local judges wife admitted I was going to endure and suffer because my father was a Teamster!

I have suffered and now Social Security Disability I have been getting for years and without EVER giving me the valid reasons as to what my medical diagnosis was/is, they forced me to have a payee. Now, they played a dirty game over some payee paperwork that goes back 2 years ago and now I was just notified I got my last check! We think it has to do with the cover-up of Oneida Count Executive Anthony Picente who was illegally making backroom deals with my father whom Picente's relative owned the house next door and felt they could legally trespass on our property and into our garage!

Here is my youtube video "Social Security Disability Medicare FRAUD" [link to www.youtube.com]

and another video showing just a small fraction of death threats that I have gotten from locals "DEATH THREATS AND OTHER VIOLENT COMMENTS DONE BY THE GREATER UTICA NY PEOPLE"

[link to www.youtube.com]

I do believe this conspiracy story on this kid and as a local cop bragged, "alienating you opened up a big can of worms but other people more important than you are involved and that looks good you're handicapped...!"

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Interesting news story from the Devil's Advocate...

I recall discussing the father--here is an interesting link:

This is what is written in the google search link---

"www.huffingtonpost.com/.../robert-holmes-james-holmes-father​-arri...Jul 20, 2012 – Robert Holmes, the father of suspected shooter James Holmes, arrived in ... LIBOR blackmail of Robert Holmes (James father) who was set to testify for prosecution. .... And what did the father have that is to be kept in control?"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

But....when you click on the article there is NO mention of the father and testifying for the prosecution --LIBOR blackmail......

So one might suspect the site was scrubbed--but they neglected the google link.

and this...... [link to I_Wish_I-Was_GLP.com (secure)]

My guess--he was (the father) threatened, and refused thinking the law would protect him and the world is fair and good having never encountered true evil in action.

They pull this stunt with a "fake" son--let his son live free but with a new identity, or did this to his son and then threatened the wife or other kids--and knowing they would do it he complied.

If this is true I would think a heart attack or car accident or suicide might be in his future before he can change his mind--and most will believe all the stress about his son caused his heart to fail or caused him to commit suicide....

Just kicking around ideas--don't "know" anything.
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I believe it as to why I feel my life is on the line! I am a victim of a mob crime and a witness to a mob crime and the local judges wife admitted I was going to endure and suffer because my father was a Teamster!

I have suffered and now Social Security Disability I have been getting for years and without EVER giving me the valid reasons as to what my medical diagnosis was/is, they forced me to have a payee. Now, they played a dirty game over some payee paperwork that goes back 2 years ago and now I was just notified I got my last check! We think it has to do with the cover-up of Oneida Count Executive Anthony Picente who was illegally making backroom deals with my father whom Picente's relative owned the house next door and felt they could legally trespass on our property and into our garage!

Here is my youtube video "Social Security Disability Medicare FRAUD" [link to www.youtube.com]

and another video showing just a small fraction of death threats that I have gotten from locals "DEATH THREATS AND OTHER VIOLENT COMMENTS DONE BY THE GREATER UTICA NY PEOPLE"

[link to www.youtube.com]

I do believe this conspiracy story on this kid and as a local cop bragged, "alienating you opened up a big can of worms but other people more important than you are involved and that looks good you're handicapped...!"

pigchef
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