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After Reading Ayn Rand´s "Atlas Shrugged" I must say... - It is happening TODAY

 
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After Reading Ayn Rand´s "Atlas Shrugged" I must say... - It is happening TODAY
Anyone familiar with the book will know what I mean.

- Breakdown of society due to over-regulation
- False altruism
- Forced socialism (?)
- No free market (EU and regulations)

The spirit of free men and woman broken

I wonder if it ends as the book does.

Who is John Galt?

Maybe you.

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Published in 1957 - She must have been a visionary.

"The book explores a dystopian United States where many of society's most productive citizens refuse to be exploited by increasing taxation and government regulations and go on strike. The refusal evokes the imagery of what would happen if the mythological Atlas refused to continue to hold up the world. They are led by John Galt. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the minds that drive society's growth and productivity. In their efforts, these people "of the mind" hope to demonstrate that a world in which the individual is not free to create is doomed, that civilization cannot exist where every person is a slave to society and government, and that the destruction of the profit motive leads to the collapse of society. The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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OP is just one more satanist who worships the whore of Babylon, Ayn Rand.

Fuck you, satanist.
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OP is just one more satanist who worships the whore of Babylon, Ayn Rand.

Fuck you, satanist.
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Really?

Even if she was a satanist - does this in any way take away from her work?

That´s like saying you do not listen to Mozart´s music because he was a little pervert.
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O: "You didn't build that alone"

Romney: "We built that"


Yes, seems to be the script.

Since God recorded His Word, Satan did through Ayn Rand.

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"Shield"
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Atlas Shrugged was great. I think that all the selfish and self-absorbed rich douchebags should run off and start their own country and leave us alone.
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We are there my friend. Even some of the technology used. The thinkers are leaving society...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Re: After Reading Ayn Rand´s "Atlas Shrugged" I must say... - It is happening TODAY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23043912


Really?

Even if she was a satanist - does this in any way take away from her work?

That´s like saying you do not listen to Mozart´s music because he was a little pervert.
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Call evil good and good evil.
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We are there my friend. Even some of the technology used. The thinkers are leaving society...
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The government seems to think that we need not think for ourselves.
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Atlas Shrugged was great. I think that all the selfish and self-absorbed rich douchebags should run off and start their own country and leave us alone.
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You did not read the last 100 pages did you?

"I swear—by my life and my love of it—that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

In other words - live long and prosper, but do not destroy society by false altruism/socialism.
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They have tried for years to banish and demonize those who don't flying along. Too open minded as a child oh they have drugs and classes field that. Grow up with it still, oh you will get bad grades. Graduate and still think and there will be obstacles still. You almost HAVE ALto leave it all behind...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I'd gladly read a copy in which they'd take out all the boring romantic feminine bullshit that's found in the beginning, I just couldn't keep going forward. Does it get really interesting at one chapter and just keeps going like that? I may give it another try.
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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They have tried for years to banish and demonize those who don't flying along. Too open minded as a child oh they have drugs and classes field that. Grow up with it still, oh you will get bad grades. Graduate and still think and there will be obstacles still. You almost HAVE ALto leave it all behind...
 Quoting: acegotflows


It is definitely a mindset change for me - I never looked at objectivism this way.

Basically it is not capitalism/free market that are the enemy, the real enemy are the forces that keep freemen and creativity down under the guise of socialism.

Hmm.
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I'd gladly read a copy in which they'd take out all the boring romantic feminine bullshit that's found in the beginning, I just couldn't keep going forward. Does it get really interesting at one chapter and just keeps going like that? I may give it another try.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it.

There is a movie that came out in 2011 which can be streamed online - I have not seen that yet. (Atlas Shrugged Part 1 of a scheduled 3)
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They have tried for years to banish and demonize those who don't flying along. Too open minded as a child oh they have drugs and classes field that. Grow up with it still, oh you will get bad grades. Graduate and still think and there will be obstacles still. You almost HAVE ALto leave it all behind...
 Quoting: acegotflows


It is definitely a mindset change for me - I never looked at objectivism this way.

Basically it is not capitalism/free market that are the enemy, the real enemy are the forces that keep freemen and creativity down under the guise of socialism.

Hmm.
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Sad but true. You can't live outside of their parameters without suffering and loss. I tried. Not working out that well for me...
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I'd gladly read a copy in which they'd take out all the boring romantic feminine bullshit that's found in the beginning, I just couldn't keep going forward. Does it get really interesting at one chapter and just keeps going like that? I may give it another try.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it.

There is a movie that came out in 2011 which can be streamed online - I have not seen that yet. (Atlas Shrugged Part 1 of a scheduled 3)
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I saw the movie and I think I will just wait for part two. It was well produced although more like tv series material, but got the point across just fine.
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Atlas Shrugged was great. I think that all the selfish and self-absorbed rich douchebags should run off and start their own country and leave us alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23018311


You did not read the last 100 pages did you?

"I swear—by my life and my love of it—that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

In other words - live long and prosper, but do not destroy society by false altruism/socialism.
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Still sounds douchy to me.
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Published in 1957 - She must have been a visionary.
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Or she was given stuff to release.

Brave New World
1984
THX 1138
Atlas Shrugged
The Hunger Games

Fiction... or game plan?


Predictive programming.
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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It is pretty much written from a female perspective but the ideas are solid. Just a LOT of explanations involved. It could be 200 pages shorter, easily.
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Published in 1957 - She must have been a visionary.
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Or she was given stuff to release.

Brave New World
1984
THX 1138
Atlas Shrugged
The Hunger Games

Fiction... or game plan?


Predictive programming.
 Quoting: The Gallows


Maybe, but she took a lot of heat and died like Tesla so I dunno. Maybe
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It is pretty much written from a female perspective but the ideas are solid. Just a LOT of explanations involved. It could be 200 pages shorter, easily.
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I agree 100% maybe even more. Lucky for my I can fast scan through those ramblings and find the real meat.

Like the Galt speech.
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It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it.

Whatever you read of hers do not read "We the living" it only goes from bleak, to bleaker and then to bleakest, hard read.
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Or she was given stuff to release.

Brave New World
1984
THX 1138
Atlas Shrugged
The Hunger Games

Fiction... or game plan?


Predictive programming.
 Quoting: The Gallows


Could well be. But in Atlas Shrugged there a somewhat happy end. And a brave new world does not seem all that strange if you take a careful look at what Huxley tried to say.

The essence is always ever increasing government involvement/control which inevitably leads to disaster.

It that´s the game plan I am not playing!
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It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it.

Whatever you read of hers do not read "We the living" it only goes from bleak, to bleaker and then to bleakest, hard read.
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What about the Fountainhead? any good?
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It already happened in MY UNDERPANTS
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This one I enjoyed very much. A little preview in case you haven't seen it.


Banned as usual.

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It already happened in MY UNDERPANTS
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OP is just one more satanist who worships the whore of Babylon, Ayn Rand.

Fuck you, satanist.
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crawl back in your hole butt heads226
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Re: After Reading Ayn Rand´s "Atlas Shrugged" I must say... - It is happening TODAY
The whole Satanist thing is offensive.She was not a satanist!Anton levy stoLe her premise and philosophy for his church.I believe she was atheist.Never the less the world is going down a very evil path right now do you think Jesus was for slavery?When you take 37 percent of my pay check and another 20 percent through sales tax real estate tax and so on and so I am a slave to the government I do not think that is the way the fore fathers envisioned this country.If you go back to 1776 the principles are sound and would doubt Ayn would change a thing .The problem is they have been perverted sorry altruism is evil you must take care of self FIRST .Hey OP have you read the FOUNTAINHEAD YET ANOTHER CLASSIC
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The spirit of free men and woman broken

Who is John Galt?
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Please, god, not this shit again.....

I thought this went out with the 90"s and AOL....



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Re: After Reading Ayn Rand´s "Atlas Shrugged" I must say... - It is happening TODAY
People throw labels out they don't understand. Is the Bible evil because of all the concepts added? Can't just blame the source for what people used it for.
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