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Rob Schneider Speaks Out Against Vaccines And Tells It Like It Is!

 
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Cahill, buddy, where have thou gone?

I'm waiting for you to give us some more edumacation.

Yee haw!!
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I can't get any audio for the vid.
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Evidence is mounting that vaccines are destroying children's lives.
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Rob Schneider will next be seen as a headline as another dead celebrity. No government will let a celebrity speak their mind because of the mass of people that know their name.
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Rob Schneider will next be seen as a headline as another dead celebrity. No shadow government will let a celebrity speak their mind because of the mass of people that know their name.
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It's pretty simple really, I want to know why we are constantly being held over a barrel by financiers and what hold they have over governments.

My thoughts on fluoridated water are that it seems from the evidence I've seen to be slightly beneficial.


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Then it would appear that you just don't know enough in general.

Ignorance coupled with arrogance will lead you nowhere.

I could try to persuade you in a friendlier manner to do a lot more reading and research, but i just won't bother, it is up to you to decide whether or not to research intensively before commenting.

As I have hurt your ego and questioned your intelligence, you probably won't though. Well too bad.
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is everyones audio working for this vid? I can watch any other vid that I click on except this one.
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My thoughts on fluoridated water are that it seems from the evidence I've seen to be slightly beneficial.

Cahill can't be that much of a moron. He has got to be a pharma shill.
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Rob Schneider isn't an expert on anything.
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So only "experts" are allowed to have an opinion? Guess you better keep YOUR mouth shut too, fat boy.
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My opinion on vaccines is that if they're well tested and their benefits can be demonstrated then I would rather myself have these then suffer the disease.
I certainly wouldn't promote the flu vaccine though as this, to me anyway, does not agree with the above. Maybe for people who are in the high-risk category it shows some benefits but this is debatable.
As for autism, the research currently available leans to there being no direct link to autism. My children have both had the MMR (after I weighed up the pro's and cons) and have grown to be both healthy and intelligent kids.
I don't particularly have an opinion on GMO foods as I don't think there's been enough research done yet. I personally don't buy them (that I know of anyway!). Although the fact that you have linked vaccines and GMO foods in the same post sways me to believe you have an agenda.
I have no problem with responsible alternative practitioners who believe they are doing it for good. There are thankfully many of them who fit in this category and I myself have had so-called alternative therapies and benefited from them. My issue is with what I posted above. Quacks and charlatans who prey upon laymen and confuse them with pseudo-scientific babble to get them to purchase their cure. When these bastards are taken to task by someone who knows what they are talking about they disappear with the tails between their legs.

Seems to me on here you can't have a balanced view of anything whatsoever. You have to be completely for or against everything.
 Quoting: Cahill


The facts are they have not been well tested and as Schneider says, a car seat is tested more for safety than these vaccines. I agree with your Quacks and charlatans who prey upon laymen and confuse them with pseudo-scientific babble statement, but this thread and video the OP posted has NONE of that.

When one mentions GMO foods in a vaccine thread and even fluoride, YES it is ALL an agenda. However it is NOT and agenda by we the people dude, but the paid off corporate shills who approve these things and just FYI, it AIN'T we the people.

Do you know who has the agenda here?
 Quoting: HEYLEL


I suggest that you read up a bit more on more independent sites about the testing of vaccines before you make the ridiculous analogy that Schneider did with car seats.
Please show me these facts you speak of.
 Quoting: Cahill


Just FYI, the vaccine industry revenue is $17 billion annually and if you don't think people would kill over that kind of money, then you are completely uninformed about the corporate and profit reality we live in.

I can show you independent websites all day long showing the dangers of vaccines, but what I CANNOT find is non-government or doctor shills proving how safe they are. The burden of proof is on you to show us NON-GOVERNMENT facts of how safe all these vaccines are and if you cannot or come up with some excuse, it proves you are a shill.

And just for poison shits and mercury giggles, here are some links and videos to support my case.



The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation program in India was promoted as "The Last Mile: Eradicating polio in India." The promotional video displayed numbers showing thousands of cases of polio in India decades ago, with the number of cases dropping to 42 by 2010. But it appears that wild polio virus stats have been traded for polio from vaccines and non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP).

In India, over 47,000 cases of NPAFP were reported in 2011. The paralysis symptoms of NPAFP are practically the same as what's attributed to "eradicated" wild virus polio. Apparently, vaccine polio viruses also cause polio paralysis.

Some experts argue that wild virus polio rarely causes paralysis and was declining on its own before the Salk vaccine ( [link to www.vaclib.org] Ironically, the Salk vaccine contained SV-40 (Simeon virus 40) associated with cancer's surge since the 1950s.

In neighboring Pakistan during 2011, 136 children came down with polio. Yet 107 of them had been vaccinated multiple times with oral polio vaccines (OPVs). That's over 78% of those supposedly

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]



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This was actually the beginning of a tradition that is carried on by today's vaccinators. Come up with a bogus solution to prevent a disease, make a bundle of cash, and shut down reasonable arguments from those who know immunization by vaccination doesn't work safely or effectively.

England's incidents of smallpox after vaccination rose steadily from five percent in the beginning to 95% by 1895. There was even a serious epidemic around 1872, one year after smallpox vaccinations were decreed mandatory in the UK. The mortality rate among smallpox victims also shot up five fold around that time.

Despite intelligent protests with obvious facts and figures disproving efficacy, and proving harm from toxic materials and viruses contained in vaccines that endanger natural immunity, the inoculation for immunization premise has been maintained.

Protecting the industry against truth by attacking reasonable dissenters viciously has resulted in vaccine industry revenue of $17 billion annually today. This doesn't include revenue from doctors' visits for vaccinations and resulting ill health from them.

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Nice post Heylel. +1 Karma.
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It's pretty simple really, I want to know why we are constantly being held over a barrel by financiers and what hold they have over governments.

My thoughts on fluoridated water are that it seems from the evidence I've seen to be slightly beneficial.


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Then it would appear that you just don't know enough in general.

Ignorance coupled with arrogance will lead you nowhere.

I could try to persuade you in a friendlier manner to do a lot more reading and research, but i just won't bother, it is up to you to decide whether or not to research intensively before commenting.

As I have hurt your ego and questioned your intelligence, you probably won't though. Well too bad.
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Wow.
So many assumptions.
And so many of them wrong.

Climb back out of your arse, Sonny Jim.
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Cahill, buddy, where have thou gone?

I'm waiting for you to give us some more edumacation.

Yee haw!!
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Too late to educate you Bubba.
You're too far gone.
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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
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Germs can spread by touch.They don't actually have to be sick to bring some cheese to school.. maybe only a trip to the new grama's house to see the new cousin from another country.

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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
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What about non-vaccinated to non-vaccinated?
That's the important bit.
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Cahill, do you have children? If so, are they current on their vaccinations?
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Yes and yes.
And as I stated above, both are doing very well indeed.
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They may be, but I believe that injecting vaccines is like playing Russian Roulette. I believe there is much confusion thrown into the vaccine debate because some people can see serious side-effects to vaccines and others very little to none.

After the research I've done on how the immune system works, it just doesn't make any sense to inject vaccines directly into the body. Essentially, when you do that, you're going in through the back door and preventing the body from responding properly with a heightened response. It also prevents adaptive immunity, which the body builds up with proper nutrition (i.e. the tools it needs to fight disease, viruses, infections, etc).

Proper immunity only occurs after the body has been attacked, naturally, via the nose, mouth, or eyes, and the body is able to defend itself.

In addition, I don't trust big pharma as far as I can throw them. They've been caught time and time again causing intentional harm to innocent people, including children, without remorse and only for gain.

I may not have ALL of the information, but I have enough to determine that vaccines are not the best route to take when it comes to living a healthy lifestyle. And for people who think that I may be posing a risk to them or their families, just keep trusting your vaccines. I will trust the body's ability fight off disease and sickness after it's been properly fed and taken care of.
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Fair enough.
At least you seem to have looked into it in some depth and formed your conclusion.

There's one thing that I would debate though.
Normal childhood diseases tend not to cause any lasting harm ergo there's no need for vaccination and they are integral to helping secure a good immune system. However, the diseases that they're vaccinated against can be very nasty indeed. By your method the child would have to contract this disease to form their own immunity against it and therefore suffer the consequences of it. I personally would not take that chance.
Do you see where I'm coming from?

If it's any consolation to you, I'm truly not a big fan of pharma companies. Some of their methods are despicable to say the least. Keep in mind though that they always make far more money off products that work than from those which don't.
 Quoting: Cahill



Many of those dangerous diseases, such as whooping cough, are actually spread by those who have been immunized. Additionally, vaccinated children are the more likely victims of whooping cough, as vaccines either fail or are the culprit behind the growing number of WC cases.

[link to www.cidd.psu.edu]


Also, vaccines like the meningococcal vaccine are not worth the risk since less than 1% of the population ever contracts bacterial meningitis. Those who do usually have failing health or a predisposition which allows for the bacteria to pass through the blood-brain barrier. This is far from the norm. In addition, 33% of the population walk around with the meningococcal bacteria in their noses and don't have any problems.

Vaccines, unfortunately, are, at best, a poor attempt at doing what the body already knows how to do. Prevent diseases. If we eat healthfully, get proper sunshine, plenty of sleep, etc. there is no need for vaccines.
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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099471


What about non-vaccinated to non-vaccinated?
That's the important bit.
 Quoting: Cahill


Vaccines are administered in such a way so as to bypass the body's natural immunity mechanisms. Most pathogens enter the body via a portal of entry like: a mucus membrane; opening in the skin; ingestion; inhalation. Though puncture wounds do occur, injection is a rare method of infection. Most vaccines, however, are injected I.M. thereby bypassing the defense mechanisms present in the body. Providing the body's immune system is functioning properly, the "non-vaccinated to "non-vaccinated" as you put it, would not be considered a group "at risk".
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Such bickering doesn't make any sense. It is clear we should agree that young babies without a developed immune system shouldn't be vaccinated for things that couldn't harm them until they are teenagers or adults.

Parents should be able to make decisions for their children.

People who want vaccines should be able to have them and not worry about those who don't want them because if they work their kids will be "safe".

The drug companies can certainly afford to pay shills to ruin threads about their products, and anyone should be able to see there is a lot of money in the health (Natural, vitamin.....industry)

So bottom line--buyer beware, do your own research and never blindly
follow any person, no matter what side they are on.

It is great for people to share their personal experience and findings who sincerely want to protect our rights as parents and human beings.

If you know anyone who has been damaged by vaccines I would recommend looking into the GAPS diet to heal the damage, also damage from antibiotics, birth control pills, and any medication that leaves a trail of side effects that were not worth taking the medication in the first place.
hfhfhf
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hf
Do research and make the best decision you can for your kids. If your kids are vaccinated, don't worry about non-vaccinated kids as your child is 'safe'. Same goes for parents of non-vaccinated kids - why the judgement? They're not your kids, you will never make decisions for them.
Bottom line for both - quit harassing people.
Vaccines have not hurt my son, but I do get them for Rubella, Measles, Mumps. The Flu vaccine, chicken pox, not going to do it. I would rather my kid get the virus, beat it, and build a stronger immunity to it.
I also let my kid run around with dirty hands. If they're filthy, sticky, etc., yeah I clean them - with water.
I don't use anti-bacterial products.
I won't give my kid antibiotics for anything short of a life-threatening situation.
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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099471


What about non-vaccinated to non-vaccinated?
That's the important bit.
 Quoting: Cahill


They aren't your kids, so why worry about it?
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When they were quoting you, they were speaking against you.
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No kidding genius.
The point is that they quoted my posts and therefore preserved them even though you deleted the originals in your dishonest attempt to eliminate any dissenting voices.
Readers can see my takedown of your OP showing that the article and author you cited were dishonest and an ignorant liar, like all antivax liars.


I only put up with so much of others peoples head in the sand mentality.

That is the advantage of a membership, I can ban people from my threads & delete crap that doesn't make any sense & has no relevance in the thread that is being discussed.
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Yes, it's quite clear you intend to allow no alternative viewpoints on your threads. Posters on your threads will either fully agree with you or be deleted and banned because you're so open-minded (sarcasm).
By 'not making sense' you of course mean 'destroys my anti-life, anti-vax, lying kOOkery with logic and facts.'

Do you have any education in science? I think not. I think you are an ignorant truck-driving housewife with a 5th grade education who believes in voodoo.
Be careful how you respond as we'll just test you with an article from The 'Death Ranger' which involved high school algebra to see if you even minimally qualify to evaluate technical papers.

Dangerous, anti-life, tard.


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Not sure what your beef is. But you definately don't sound educated ... As a holder of a Bachelor degree in Science and a medical prefessional I can tell you that what Rob schneider has stated is TRUE. appropriate efficacy tests have NOT been done on these combination vaccines !!! PERIOD. Its a fact that you cannot dispute!! Also the facts that autism has become epidemic in the west that push vaccine schedules that are absolutely ridiculous!
Vaccines have a place in health care and have certainly helped put diseases like Polio out of sight, but the overuse of vaccines poses much more threat to the health of young child than do the diseases themselves.
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Actually, very recent scientific journals have released that:

"In recent years, scientists have made extraordinary advances in understanding the causes of autism, now estimated to afflict 1 in 88 children. But remarkably little of this understanding has percolated into popular awareness, which often remains fixated on vaccines.
So here’s the short of it: At least a subset of autism — perhaps one-third, and very likely more — looks like a type of inflammatory disease. And it begins in the womb."


[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Yes and yes.
And as I stated above, both are doing very well indeed.
 Quoting: Cahill


They may be, but I believe that injecting vaccines is like playing Russian Roulette. I believe there is much confusion thrown into the vaccine debate because some people can see serious side-effects to vaccines and others very little to none.

After the research I've done on how the immune system works, it just doesn't make any sense to inject vaccines directly into the body. Essentially, when you do that, you're going in through the back door and preventing the body from responding properly with a heightened response. It also prevents adaptive immunity, which the body builds up with proper nutrition (i.e. the tools it needs to fight disease, viruses, infections, etc).

Proper immunity only occurs after the body has been attacked, naturally, via the nose, mouth, or eyes, and the body is able to defend itself.

In addition, I don't trust big pharma as far as I can throw them. They've been caught time and time again causing intentional harm to innocent people, including children, without remorse and only for gain.

I may not have ALL of the information, but I have enough to determine that vaccines are not the best route to take when it comes to living a healthy lifestyle. And for people who think that I may be posing a risk to them or their families, just keep trusting your vaccines. I will trust the body's ability fight off disease and sickness after it's been properly fed and taken care of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 119873


Fair enough.
At least you seem to have looked into it in some depth and formed your conclusion.

There's one thing that I would debate though.
Normal childhood diseases tend not to cause any lasting harm ergo there's no need for vaccination and they are integral to helping secure a good immune system. However, the diseases that they're vaccinated against can be very nasty indeed. By your method the child would have to contract this disease to form their own immunity against it and therefore suffer the consequences of it. I personally would not take that chance.
Do you see where I'm coming from?

If it's any consolation to you, I'm truly not a big fan of pharma companies. Some of their methods are despicable to say the least. Keep in mind though that they always make far more money off products that work than from those which don't.
 Quoting: Cahill



Many of those dangerous diseases, such as whooping cough, are actually spread by those who have been immunized. Additionally, vaccinated children are the more likely victims of whooping cough, as vaccines either fail or are the culprit behind the growing number of WC cases.

[link to www.cidd.psu.edu]


Also, vaccines like the meningococcal vaccine are not worth the risk since less than 1% of the population ever contracts bacterial meningitis. Those who do usually have failing health or a predisposition which allows for the bacteria to pass through the blood-brain barrier. This is far from the norm. In addition, 33% of the population walk around with the meningococcal bacteria in their noses and don't have any problems.

Vaccines, unfortunately, are, at best, a poor attempt at doing what the body already knows how to do. Prevent diseases. If we eat healthfully, get proper sunshine, plenty of sleep, etc. there is no need for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 119873


Published: 2010

Author(s): Long GH, Karanikas AT, Harvill ET, Read AF, & Hudson PJ

Title: Acellular pertussis vaccination facilitates Bordetella parapertussis infection in a rodent model of bordetellosis

A lot of the whooping cough kids get it from their parents which are mainly already immune, but they said that adults with babies should get it also. Again, not my area, just what I have read recently

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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099471


What about non-vaccinated to non-vaccinated?
That's the important bit.
 Quoting: Cahill


What you're upset that the non-vaccinated have the liberty to decide their own risk of getting sick?

Does liberty scare you?
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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099471


What about non-vaccinated to non-vaccinated?
That's the important bit.
 Quoting: Cahill


What you're upset that the non-vaccinated have the liberty to decide their own risk of getting sick?

Does liberty scare you?
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No, getting mumps at my age does though.
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What I dont understand is why anyone would need to get exemptions for school or anything else? The kids who are vaccinated should have nothing to worry about right? I mean they are vaccinated so they cant catch anything the non-vaccinated kids have? It seems like more people are missing that argument than anything.

If your shots are so great then you have no need to force my kid to get them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099471


What about non-vaccinated to non-vaccinated?
That's the important bit.
 Quoting: Cahill


What you're upset that the non-vaccinated have the liberty to decide their own risk of getting sick?

Does liberty scare you?
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No, getting mumps at my age does though.
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I'm sure you've been vaccinated, though.

What have you to worry?
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They may be, but I believe that injecting vaccines is like playing Russian Roulette. I believe there is much confusion thrown into the vaccine debate because some people can see serious side-effects to vaccines and others very little to none.

After the research I've done on how the immune system works, it just doesn't make any sense to inject vaccines directly into the body. Essentially, when you do that, you're going in through the back door and preventing the body from responding properly with a heightened response. It also prevents adaptive immunity, which the body builds up with proper nutrition (i.e. the tools it needs to fight disease, viruses, infections, etc).

Proper immunity only occurs after the body has been attacked, naturally, via the nose, mouth, or eyes, and the body is able to defend itself.

In addition, I don't trust big pharma as far as I can throw them. They've been caught time and time again causing intentional harm to innocent people, including children, without remorse and only for gain.

I may not have ALL of the information, but I have enough to determine that vaccines are not the best route to take when it comes to living a healthy lifestyle. And for people who think that I may be posing a risk to them or their families, just keep trusting your vaccines. I will trust the body's ability fight off disease and sickness after it's been properly fed and taken care of.
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Fair enough.
At least you seem to have looked into it in some depth and formed your conclusion.

There's one thing that I would debate though.
Normal childhood diseases tend not to cause any lasting harm ergo there's no need for vaccination and they are integral to helping secure a good immune system. However, the diseases that they're vaccinated against can be very nasty indeed. By your method the child would have to contract this disease to form their own immunity against it and therefore suffer the consequences of it. I personally would not take that chance.
Do you see where I'm coming from?

If it's any consolation to you, I'm truly not a big fan of pharma companies. Some of their methods are despicable to say the least. Keep in mind though that they always make far more money off products that work than from those which don't.
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Many of those dangerous diseases, such as whooping cough, are actually spread by those who have been immunized. Additionally, vaccinated children are the more likely victims of whooping cough, as vaccines either fail or are the culprit behind the growing number of WC cases.

[link to www.cidd.psu.edu]


Also, vaccines like the meningococcal vaccine are not worth the risk since less than 1% of the population ever contracts bacterial meningitis. Those who do usually have failing health or a predisposition which allows for the bacteria to pass through the blood-brain barrier. This is far from the norm. In addition, 33% of the population walk around with the meningococcal bacteria in their noses and don't have any problems.

Vaccines, unfortunately, are, at best, a poor attempt at doing what the body already knows how to do. Prevent diseases. If we eat healthfully, get proper sunshine, plenty of sleep, etc. there is no need for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 119873


Published: 2010

Author(s): Long GH, Karanikas AT, Harvill ET, Read AF, & Hudson PJ

Title: Acellular pertussis vaccination facilitates Bordetella parapertussis infection in a rodent model of bordetellosis

A lot of the whooping cough kids get it from their parents which are mainly already immune, but they said that adults with babies should get it also. Again, not my area, just what I have read recently
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Pertussis Infection in Fully Vaccinated Children in Day-Care Centers, Israel

Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants (3-11). The whole-cell vaccine for pertussis is protective only against clinical disease, not against infection (15-17). Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.
[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov]
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Rob Schneider isn't an expert on anything.
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Looks like you aren't either!
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If you take your advice from Rob Schneider you are a moran.
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Moran?
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Rob Schneider Speaks Out Against Vaccines


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Yah bless this young Jewish man of courage and honor!
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I'm going to re-post my post!!! REAL science on roots of some forms of autism.

Actually, very recent scientific journals have released that:

"In recent years, scientists have made extraordinary advances in understanding the causes of autism, now estimated to afflict 1 in 88 children. But remarkably little of this understanding has percolated into popular awareness, which often remains fixated on vaccines.
So here’s the short of it: At least a subset of autism — perhaps one-third, and very likely more — looks like a type of inflammatory disease. And it begins in the womb."


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I'm going to re-post my post!!! REAL science on roots of some forms of autism.

Actually, very recent scientific journals have released that:

"In recent years, scientists have made extraordinary advances in understanding the causes of autism, now estimated to afflict 1 in 88 children. But remarkably little of this understanding has percolated into popular awareness, which often remains fixated on vaccines.
So here’s the short of it: At least a subset of autism — perhaps one-third, and very likely more — looks like a type of inflammatory disease. And it begins in the womb."


[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Certainly seems plausible but they need to look into it further.





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