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Paddywhack User ID: 968444 United Kingdom 09/04/2012 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | which we are too stupid to harvest....learn to identify them and eat healthily for free and yes..plant fruit trees...there are some streets and roundabouts in UK planted with the veg we know and love..they are free to harvest and no one has yet abused it to my knowledge..............just great Paddywhack |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22964169 United States 09/04/2012 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My late grandpa told me stories of how fruit trees used to thrive without all the help. It was when pesticides and such were introduced that they could no longer do it on their own as the pests had strengthened for the resistance. It is sad. The trees he used to be able to pick a peach from, growing unpurposefully, becoming infested, tainted. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23161632 Japan 09/04/2012 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we just planted more fruit bearing trees in streets/sidewalks/parks/etc ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516077 if there were strawberries, cherries, lettuce, in abundance everywhere ... we probably don't even have to work. Food production has never been a problem. Control of all the land by the greedy is the problem. If fruit trees grew near every street we could end starvation. But we are slaves because the land lords don't plant. |
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SnakeAirlines User ID: 798430 United States 09/04/2012 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we just planted more fruit bearing trees in streets/sidewalks/parks/etc ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516077 if there were strawberries, cherries, lettuce, in abundance everywhere ... we probably don't even have to work. "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23159922 United States 09/04/2012 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all that would happen is that some enterprising individual would come along and pick the trees as soon as the fruit was ripe and then set up a stand and sell it. So, the next guy would pick the fruit earlier, before the first guy got to it, and so on and so on until you had a bunch of bare trees and a bunch of stands set up with a bunch of dorks selling unrippened fruit. Then, likely, the people would petition the government to guard and monitor the trees, come up with stringent regulations for who had access to them, etc. Likely the pols would grant themselves and their cronies first access to the fruit and the people that these trees were supposed to feed would get what was left after TPTB had taken all the best for themselves. You see, it is always human nature that gets in the way of these grand Utopian visions. Thread fail! |
a User ID: 23156035 Slovenia 09/04/2012 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all that would happen is that some enterprising individual would come along and pick the trees as soon as the fruit was ripe and then set up a stand and sell it. So, the next guy would pick the fruit earlier, before the first guy got to it, and so on and so on until you had a bunch of bare trees and a bunch of stands set up with a bunch of dorks selling unrippened fruit. Then, likely, the people would petition the government to guard and monitor the trees, come up with stringent regulations for who had access to them, etc. Likely the pols would grant themselves and their cronies first access to the fruit and the people that these trees were supposed to feed would get what was left after TPTB had taken all the best for themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23159922 You see, it is always human nature that gets in the way of these grand Utopian visions. Thread fail! blah blah... you are totaly wrong. see the video on page 4 about the german city planting fruits and vegetables and inviting people to pick them up. THEY HAVE NO SUCH PROBLEMS AS YOU DESCRIBED |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23159922 United States 09/04/2012 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all that would happen is that some enterprising individual would come along and pick the trees as soon as the fruit was ripe and then set up a stand and sell it. So, the next guy would pick the fruit earlier, before the first guy got to it, and so on and so on until you had a bunch of bare trees and a bunch of stands set up with a bunch of dorks selling unrippened fruit. Then, likely, the people would petition the government to guard and monitor the trees, come up with stringent regulations for who had access to them, etc. Likely the pols would grant themselves and their cronies first access to the fruit and the people that these trees were supposed to feed would get what was left after TPTB had taken all the best for themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23159922 You see, it is always human nature that gets in the way of these grand Utopian visions. Thread fail! blah blah... you are totaly wrong. see the video on page 4 about the german city planting fruits and vegetables and inviting people to pick them up. THEY HAVE NO SUCH PROBLEMS AS YOU DESCRIBED F you and your collectivist bullshit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15775729 United States 09/04/2012 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I purchased a home in Los Angeles a few years back. I have about a 1/2 acre and quickly began planting a small orchard. I also planted lettuce as well as other vegetables. I planted a butterfly garden and had so many beautiful butterflies. I had bees make a hive in one of my trees. I was so happy to have my own beehive except, the bees are now killing a 50 year old olive tree. I also built a small waterfall so I could attract birds, I now need to fight green algae and of course thristy coyotes. I built a clever bird feeder so I could protect the doves I feed without witnessing the horror of a falcon or hawk massacring the flock of doves I was trying to feed. Unfortunately birds begin to rely on you so it becomes a duty to feed them each day What I have learned, fruit trees are messy and not that easy to grow. Fruit trees attract pests, lots of pests. Rodents love fruit trees, coyotes (who would of thought?) love fruit trees. Coyotes have eaten a couple of my pets. Oh, and the birds love to eat the fruit even though I spend a stupid amount each month on bird and squirrel food. Did mention how pesky squirrels can become when they eat your fruit? I planted grape vines which take a lot of care. I also planted berries which turned out to be a lot of trouble for only a handful of berries each year. Did I mention how expensive it is to water enough plants and trees to feed even a small family? The biggest problem so far have been insects. Do I go natural or just spray the little demons that it seems I need to fight daily? As for my lettuce, my guard dog hikes his leg everywhere so I no longer tend to the lettuce patch, I won't eat that lettuce. I now know how damn hard it is to grow your own food. Farmers should be paid more than our stupid ass socialist loving public school teachers. I have also learned it is so much cheaper and easier to pick up a few apples and oranges at the local market. I will keep growing what I can as well as continue to learn how to grow my own food but, I now know growing your own food is a lot more work than most would imagine. I actually envy the homes with small tidy yards because I know they have time to enjoy their weekend Farmers are now my heroes |
Pandacat User ID: 22987834 United Kingdom 09/04/2012 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we just planted more fruit bearing trees in streets/sidewalks/parks/etc ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516077 if there were strawberries, cherries, lettuce, in abundance everywhere ... we probably don't even have to work. I love me a lettuce tree. They should plant spaghetti trees also. Can't have enough pasta. Pandacat |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15775729 United States 09/04/2012 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all that would happen is that some enterprising individual would come along and pick the trees as soon as the fruit was ripe and then set up a stand and sell it. So, the next guy would pick the fruit earlier, before the first guy got to it, and so on and so on until you had a bunch of bare trees and a bunch of stands set up with a bunch of dorks selling unrippened fruit. Then, likely, the people would petition the government to guard and monitor the trees, come up with stringent regulations for who had access to them, etc. Likely the pols would grant themselves and their cronies first access to the fruit and the people that these trees were supposed to feed would get what was left after TPTB had taken all the best for themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23159922 You see, it is always human nature that gets in the way of these grand Utopian visions. Thread fail! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20864437 United States 09/04/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I purchased a home in Los Angeles a few years back. I have about a 1/2 acre and quickly began planting a small orchard. I also planted lettuce as well as other vegetables. Quoting: ella I planted a butterfly garden and had so many beautiful butterflies. I had bees make a hive in one of my trees. I was so happy to have my own beehive except, the bees are now killing a 50 year old olive tree. I also built a small waterfall so I could attract birds, I now need to fight green algae and of course thristy coyotes. I built a clever bird feeder so I could protect the doves I feed without witnessing the horror of a falcon or hawk massacring the flock of doves I was trying to feed. Unfortunately birds begin to rely on you so it becomes a duty to feed them each day What I have learned, fruit trees are messy and not that easy to grow. Fruit trees attract pests, lots of pests. Rodents love fruit trees, coyotes (who would of thought?) love fruit trees. Coyotes have eaten a couple of my pets. Oh, and the birds love to eat the fruit even though I spend a stupid amount each month on bird and squirrel food. Did mention how pesky squirrels can become when they eat your fruit? I planted grape vines which take a lot of care. I also planted berries which turned out to be a lot of trouble for only a handful of berries each year. Did I mention how expensive it is to water enough plants and trees to feed even a small family? The biggest problem so far have been insects. Do I go natural or just spray the little demons that it seems I need to fight daily? As for my lettuce, my guard dog hikes his leg everywhere so I no longer tend to the lettuce patch, I won't eat that lettuce. I now know how damn hard it is to grow your own food. Farmers should be paid more than our stupid ass socialist loving public school teachers. I have also learned it is so much cheaper and easier to pick up a few apples and oranges at the local market. I will keep growing what I can as well as continue to learn how to grow my own food but, I now know growing your own food is a lot more work than most would imagine. I actually envy the homes with small tidy yards because I know they have time to enjoy their weekend Farmers are now my heroes Read up on Permaculture and use companion planting. For almost every pest problem there is a natural solution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20864437 United States 09/04/2012 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all that would happen is that some enterprising individual would come along and pick the trees as soon as the fruit was ripe and then set up a stand and sell it. So, the next guy would pick the fruit earlier, before the first guy got to it, and so on and so on until you had a bunch of bare trees and a bunch of stands set up with a bunch of dorks selling unrippened fruit. Then, likely, the people would petition the government to guard and monitor the trees, come up with stringent regulations for who had access to them, etc. Likely the pols would grant themselves and their cronies first access to the fruit and the people that these trees were supposed to feed would get what was left after TPTB had taken all the best for themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23159922 You see, it is always human nature that gets in the way of these grand Utopian visions. Thread fail! You plant so many trees there is enough for everyone. If upgraded from lawns to food forests in the USA alone there would be enough food for the whole population. What you say it would take a lot of people to take care of it? Last I remember we have a lot of people unemployed. We could solve unemployment and feed people at the same time. Start your own garden and food forest. It has the added bennefit that you eat better and pay less for your own food. Also the governments do not tax the food you grow for yourself. Another added bonus. Once taxes are reduced we have less government. A win-win for the people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23163744 United Kingdom 09/04/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all that would happen is that some enterprising individual would come along and pick the trees as soon as the fruit was ripe and then set up a stand and sell it. So, the next guy would pick the fruit earlier, before the first guy got to it, and so on and so on until you had a bunch of bare trees and a bunch of stands set up with a bunch of dorks selling unrippened fruit. Then, likely, the people would petition the government to guard and monitor the trees, come up with stringent regulations for who had access to them, etc. Likely the pols would grant themselves and their cronies first access to the fruit and the people that these trees were supposed to feed would get what was left after TPTB had taken all the best for themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23159922 You see, it is always human nature that gets in the way of these grand Utopian visions. Thread fail! blah blah... you are totaly wrong. see the video on page 4 about the german city planting fruits and vegetables and inviting people to pick them up. THEY HAVE NO SUCH PROBLEMS AS YOU DESCRIBED F you and your collectivist bullshit fuck you and your Ayn Rand childlike fuckery. Humans beings are collective, social animals no matter what Ayn Rand or Adam smith says. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14873148 United States 09/04/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just finished my 16x16 fenced in raised bed gardens, and back in march of this year i planted 8 organic fruit and nut trees and bushes. I feel ya on this one. On top of the monetary and nutrition value to growing your own food, it is so rewarding to take one seed from one fruit and watch it grow and blossom into another tree/plant! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11883459 United States 09/04/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Star Wars on Weeds: Could Lasers Replace Herbicides? [link to www.treehugger.com] Agenda 21.... good luck! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15775729 United States 09/04/2012 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read up on Permaculture and use companion planting. For almost every pest problem there is a natural solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20864437 Yes, and I am learning from the nearby state university arborist I can use this special worm casing stuff to fight this new white fly infestation I've just discovered. If I spray, I risk killing the bees and I can't eat the nearby fruit if I use spray. It's damn hard to grow your own food. My point, anyone thinking you can just toss about a handful of seeds is being silly. Farming, even caring for one fruit tree is not for sissies. |
Vision Thing User ID: 21063079 United States 09/04/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why limit it to fruit trees? What about free vegetables for everyone? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22624215 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Great article about a town growing fruit and vegetables everywhere for anyone to pick and eat! Thanks for the great article, I'll share that! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20864437 United States 09/04/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read up on Permaculture and use companion planting. For almost every pest problem there is a natural solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20864437 Yes, and I am learning from the nearby state university arborist I can use this special worm casing stuff to fight this new white fly infestation I've just discovered. If I spray, I risk killing the bees and I can't eat the nearby fruit if I use spray. It's damn hard to grow your own food. My point, anyone thinking you can just toss about a handful of seeds is being silly. Farming, even caring for one fruit tree is not for sissies. You definately need to learn gardening but unless people try we will not have any gardeners or farmers. Fail and fail again. Fail miserably and then you will learn to garden even better. That is the only way to learn. We could have whole service sectors of specialist who could help you tend your garden and help solve problem like you are having. Why do we need so many lawn care specialist poisoning our environment just to have a green lawn. How about a person that uses natural techniques to help you grow your own food? |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 22654964 Spain 09/04/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The barbarians would kill each other over who gets more fruits. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12870145 United States 09/04/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew this link would come in handy! Connects people from all over the country with pure genetic fruit cuttings and lots more: [link to www.slowfoodusa.org] |
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a User ID: 23156035 Slovenia 09/04/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I purchased a home in Los Angeles a few years back. I have about a 1/2 acre and quickly began planting a small orchard. I also planted lettuce as well as other vegetables. Quoting: ella I planted a butterfly garden and had so many beautiful butterflies. I had bees make a hive in one of my trees. I was so happy to have my own beehive except, the bees are now killing a 50 year old olive tree. I also built a small waterfall so I could attract birds, I now need to fight green algae and of course thristy coyotes. I built a clever bird feeder so I could protect the doves I feed without witnessing the horror of a falcon or hawk massacring the flock of doves I was trying to feed. Unfortunately birds begin to rely on you so it becomes a duty to feed them each day What I have learned, fruit trees are messy and not that easy to grow. Fruit trees attract pests, lots of pests. Rodents love fruit trees, coyotes (who would of thought?) love fruit trees. Coyotes have eaten a couple of my pets. Oh, and the birds love to eat the fruit even though I spend a stupid amount each month on bird and squirrel food. Did mention how pesky squirrels can become when they eat your fruit? I planted grape vines which take a lot of care. I also planted berries which turned out to be a lot of trouble for only a handful of berries each year. Did I mention how expensive it is to water enough plants and trees to feed even a small family? The biggest problem so far have been insects. Do I go natural or just spray the little demons that it seems I need to fight daily? As for my lettuce, my guard dog hikes his leg everywhere so I no longer tend to the lettuce patch, I won't eat that lettuce. I now know how damn hard it is to grow your own food. Farmers should be paid more than our stupid ass socialist loving public school teachers. I have also learned it is so much cheaper and easier to pick up a few apples and oranges at the local market. I will keep growing what I can as well as continue to learn how to grow my own food but, I now know growing your own food is a lot more work than most would imagine. I actually envy the homes with small tidy yards because I know they have time to enjoy their weekend Farmers are now my heroes try nettle.it works wonders and is totaly eco friendly. [link to forum.grasscity.com] |