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A couple who were arrested on suspicion of GBH after two burglars were shot during a midnight raid at their remote cottage were planning to emigrate, it emerged today.

Andy Ferrie, 35, and his wife Tracey, 43, are believed to have been burgled three or four times at their 200-year-old farm cottage in Welby, Leicestershire.

The couple had only been back in the property for four weeks - after moving out because they were fed up with being targeted - when crooks struck again.

Mr Ferrie's stepfather Maris Spilner, 60, said the couple, who have been married for four years, had decided to emigrate to Australia in 2013.

The service engineer said: 'In the time they have lived in the cottage, I think they have been broken into a couple of times at least, but I couldn’t say for definite.

'This is very out of character, we were very shocked when we heard on Sunday.

'But if someone breaks into your home its a violation of your privacy, I’m sure there was a very good reason for what has happened.

'We don’t know what went on, we haven’t spoken to either of them since it happened and no one will tell us anything.

'They haven’t lived in the property again for that long - a few months maybe.

'They were preparing for their move overseas, they were hoping to emigrate to Australia - for the weather mainly.'

Mr Spilner confirmed that the couple did have a gun licence but could not confirm for what type of firearm.

Detectives and scenes of crime officers have cordoned off the stone cottage, and forensic investigations are underway.

Eve Hobill, whose family owns the land that the cottage is on, said today: 'We do not know what is happening, and we are not allowed to say anything.'
A police community support officer stands guard at a track near the isolated cottage

A police community support officer stands guard at a track near the isolated cottage

Local resident Ted Hutchin, 63, said the suspected break-in and shooting were a shock to the quiet, rural community.

He said: ‘I’m a former magistrate and Melton Mowbray has the usual crimes associated with a market town.

‘But in the immediate vicinity the worst crime we can remember is lead stolen from the church roof.’

Mr Hutchin said he had seen the police cordon outside the cottage on his way to church last night, adding: ‘I thought it was strange because this is such a quiet spot.’

The case is likely to reignite public debate over a householder’s right to defend his home against intruders.

In 1999, Norfolk farmer Tony Martin was arrested after shooting burglars during a break-in at his remote farmhouse. He did not have a firearms licence.

Fred Barras, 16, was killed and his friend Brendan Fearon, 29, suffered gunshot wounds to his legs.

Fearon later admitted conspiring to burgle the farmhouse, accompanied by Barras, but Martin was tried at Norwich Crown Court and jailed for life for murder in 2000.

His murder conviction was later reduced to manslaughter and he was released from jail in 2003....50% article at link.

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09/03/2012 10:12 AM
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So who the fuck is MARTIN?
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meh, bump
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
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bump
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09/03/2012 10:45 AM
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UK people grow some balls revolt and get your freedoms back..
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09/03/2012 10:47 AM
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UK people grow some balls revolt and get your freedoms back..
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And be like the US right? LOL
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
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Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
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UK people grow some balls revolt and get your freedoms back..
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Move might be a better idea. LOL
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
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He never should have went in the first place.
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


He never should have went in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Firstly, he didn't have a firearms license. Illegal use of a firearm is an offence.

He shot the burglars in the back while they were running away. i.e. that was not self-defense at that point.

If you saw a child stealing a pie from your windowstill you'd probably shoot him in the face.

Americans don't understand the concept of reasonable force. You have no respect for human life.
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Haha

sucks for you Brits who cannot even defend your life, liberty and property.


ya'll have coming exactly what you deserve for being pompous asses for the past 300 years.
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


He never should have went in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Firstly, he didn't have a firearms license. Illegal use of a firearm is an offence.

He shot the burglars in the back while they were running away. i.e. that was not self-defense at that point.

If you saw a child stealing a pie from your windowstill you'd probably shoot him in the face.

Americans don't understand the concept of reasonable force. You have no respect for human life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


Hmm and the piece of shit robber has any respect for anything at all?

think again moron.
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UK people grow some balls revolt and get your freedoms back..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18581074


Move might be a better idea. LOL
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I might consider moving to the US one day, but I like my dog to not have any bullets holes in it after a friendly visit from the police.
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Haha

sucks for you Brits who cannot even defend your life, liberty and property.


ya'll have coming exactly what you deserve for being pompous asses for the past 300 years.
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I'd rather live here than in your stinking country where I'm far more likely to get murdered or shot and that's just by your own fucking police.
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Haha

sucks for you Brits who cannot even defend your life, liberty and property.


ya'll have coming exactly what you deserve for being pompous asses for the past 300 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151153


Nope it's great to be British..

Maybe I'll go to the cinema tonight AND without the fear of being gunned down.
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Haha

sucks for you Brits who cannot even defend your life, liberty and property.


ya'll have coming exactly what you deserve for being pompous asses for the past 300 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151153


I'd rather live here than in your stinking country where I'm far more likely to get murdered or shot and that's just by your own fucking police.
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cruise
You godless shithole will be overrun soon.

I'm glad you toothless pussies had rather stew in your multicultural island. Won't be long you will love Londanistan. Or die.
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bunch of british shill wankers here it seems.
check out our gun laws here in switzerland and learn that your fucking morans for thinking gun restrictions make you safe.
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If people were home, it wasn't a burglary. It was a robbery.
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who would want to live somewhere where the queen cant get voted out...worship the queen...the queen is coming
what about that murder on the queens property?

take her away
vote.
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They should have disposed of the bodies and never said a word about it. You fools think you need to report every little incident to the pigs.

If a fool breaks into your house you shoot to kill. Period. Screw the laws. Screw the police. Whats right is right. If the bitch ass law makers dissagree then they simply don't need to know. End of story.
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who would want to live somewhere where the queen cant get voted out...worship the queen...the queen is coming
what about that murder on the queens property?

take her away
vote.
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not only can they "not vote her out" same with the line of that family. what a bunch of tards
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


He never should have went in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Firstly, he didn't have a firearms license. Illegal use of a firearm is an offence.

He shot the burglars in the back while they were running away. i.e. that was not self-defense at that point.

If you saw a child stealing a pie from your windowstill you'd probably shoot him in the face.

Americans don't understand the concept of reasonable force. You have no respect for human life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


No you are wrong. In America you have the right to be safe and secure in you own home, and if unwanted intruders break in your home, you have the right to shoot them.

How did the shooter know if the burglar was armed or not?

He has the right to protect his family.
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This is dreadful. I hope they were not too badly hurt. Fortunately Britain has law to deal with criminals who use guns like this. He really should know better. He is supposed to dial 999 and wait for the police to come and deal with it. Not take the law into his own hands in this inhumane way. Hopefully the British will finally do something about these damned shotguns everyone seems to have and ban them once and for all.
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


He never should have went in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Firstly, he didn't have a firearms license. Illegal use of a firearm is an offence.

He shot the burglars in the back while they were running away. i.e. that was not self-defense at that point.

If you saw a child stealing a pie from your windowstill you'd probably shoot him in the face.

Americans don't understand the concept of reasonable force. You have no respect for human life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


You are defending thief that was engaged in breaking and entering. The homeowner also could not have known they simply wouldn't have gotten a weapon and turned around.

For this you offer: You don't think it was "fair" where he shot the individuals as he was defending his self and property?? You believe the offense of not having a license, or other government sanctioned piece of paper, is greater than the offense of physical breaking and entering with the possible intent to do harm?

You are truly a useful fool. I commend your way of thinking and wish we could fool more here in the States to think as you do.
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This is dreadful. I hope they were not too badly hurt. Fortunately Britain has law to deal with criminals who use guns like this. He really should know better. He is supposed to dial 999 and wait for the police to come and deal with it. Not take the law into his own hands in this inhumane way. Hopefully the British will finally do something about these damned shotguns everyone seems to have and ban them once and for all.
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when did your spine disapear? what a idiot!
oh canada, im sorry carry on
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This is dreadful. I hope they were not too badly hurt. Fortunately Britain has law to deal with criminals who use guns like this. He really should know better. He is supposed to dial 999 and wait for the police to come and deal with it. Not take the law into his own hands in this inhumane way. Hopefully the British will finally do something about these damned shotguns everyone seems to have and ban them once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23110450


when did your spine disapear? what a idiot!
oh canada, im sorry carry on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23106099


Fortunately the UN small arms treaty will apply to the US as well and you can all grow up and start being a bit humane to your fellow human beings. Have a thought for the need that drives people to such desperation that they have to steal to get what they want. The new policy of redistribution of wealth that the US is finally waking up to will help.
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


He never should have went in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Firstly, he didn't have a firearms license. Illegal use of a firearm is an offence.

He shot the burglars in the back while they were running away. i.e. that was not self-defense at that point.

If you saw a child stealing a pie from your windowstill you'd probably shoot him in the face.

Americans don't understand the concept of reasonable force. You have no respect for human life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


I beg to differ. Americans are probably the most generous people in the world. What Americans do respect along with human life is property rights!
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I beg to differ. Americans are probably the most generous people in the world. What Americans do respect along with human life is property rights!
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Tell that to the victims of the interminable American wars. Tell it to the millions of dead and homeless they have left in the wake of their expansionist adventures.
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ah yes sorry, martin was another person who shot a burgler in 2000.

And was jailed for life,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Yeah and then got out 4 years later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


He never should have went in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Firstly, he didn't have a firearms license. Illegal use of a firearm is an offence.

He shot the burglars in the back while they were running away. i.e. that was not self-defense at that point.

If you saw a child stealing a pie from your windowstill you'd probably shoot him in the face.

Americans don't understand the concept of reasonable force. You have no respect for human life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


People that use guns for self defense should try using salt shot or other non lethal but VERY painful ammunition, shoot to kill in a burglary situation isn't going to go well for anyone, guns being used in confused or chaotic situations can be very bad and accidental crossfire shooting / innocent victim in the next house over happens.
I support guns though, not saying they should be regulated or taken or anything like that.
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Bible says if someone enters your home in the night you can kill him....

Day .... only if he attacks you ...

And they wanted to migrate to australia ? (no guns) Fuck them!

Move to oklahoma !