Religious People - A Challenge For You!

I am a "born again" Christian. I am not however,
religious. I have a relationship with the Lord of all
creation and it is a made possible by the
sacrifice of Jesus Christ. This is a free gift, this
Salvation. You need only ask. It is by grace you have
Been saved through faith, but notice the word faith.
It is hard to believe in something you cannot see. I get it.
But when you are searching and it sounds like many are,
you can ask for the truth to be revealed to your heart.
God has provided this umbrella of grace for all. You do
not have to go to church to know God although, once you have experienced his presence you will hunger for more of it and
to know him more. This is where a church or small group
Fellowship might come in but nowhere does it say you must
Attend to be saved. In the old law, which Christ came to abolish
That would have been necessary but it is not now. If you are seriously
searching, I pray that you would find God. He is closer than you ever
Imagined. Blessings!!! :)

this one will drive the religious crazy> ask them if god is all things? you will get a yes ,then tell them god is a liar too if god is all things..and if god is all things then god is not perfect and not all knowing because they fall under the category of "all things"..and if they say god is all good things,then tell them their god is then incomplete and not perfect..logic will make a preacher cuss..ask them if god has logic? if they say no, then tell them their god is incomplete and not perfect,lol..there are many ways to logically prove god is not perfect and all knowing..it shows god is not perfect and god is always learning from the creation or their would be no need for creation since god would have been complete,lol..

"Science without Religion Is Lame, Religion without Science Is Blind" -Einstein

I believe that the two were separated to get people fighting more, divide and conquer.

God is seperate from his creation.
He holds all things together, but is not of them.

i wish somebody who is into zeus or odin or baal would post

"Science without Religion Is Lame, Religion without Science Is Blind" -Einstein

I believe that the two were separated to get people fighting more, divide and conquer.

OP. Do you know all there is to know in and about the Universe?

You can't possibly say that you do, so you also can't say that you know for certain that there isn't a God.

It's not a question about proving a negative. The absence of God is your own presumption. So that's the only 'negative' aspect about this whole discussion. You can't prove that you don't believe in God.

See. God even talked about you.
"They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

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OP. Do you know all there is to know in and about the Universe?

You can't possibly say that you do, so you also can't say that you know for certain that there isn't a God.

It's not a question about proving a negative. The absence of God is your own presumption. So that's the only 'negative' aspect about this whole discussion. You can't prove that you don't believe in God.

"Science is Lucifers invention to misdirect people away from faith." - sorry, still can't get over how good that is

Anyway I tend to scare off most religious people as their faith is obviously weak on here and they know deep down that everything they believe in is made-up.

However if you, Mr Religion, can convince me, Mr Cynical, that YOUR god (or gods) is real I WILL CONVERT TO YOUR OWN PARTICULAR BRAND OF UNIVERSE-CREATING DEITY

I am very much looking forward to a biblical deluge of replies from followers of allah, the christian god, zeus, horus, baal, ra and odin with well-argued proof-filled diatribes on why I should follow their own particular space god from beyond the stars.

Oh, and your book which says 'my god did it' does not count

Fire away, believers

Sorry.. are you coming from the position that humans evolved from slime billions of years ago?

"Science is Lucifers invention to misdirect people away from faith." - sorry, still can't get over how good that is

Anyway I tend to scare off most religious people as their faith is obviously weak on here and they know deep down that everything they believe in is made-up.

However if you, Mr Religion, can convince me, Mr Cynical, that YOUR god (or gods) is real I WILL CONVERT TO YOUR OWN PARTICULAR BRAND OF UNIVERSE-CREATING DEITY

I am very much looking forward to a biblical deluge of replies from followers of allah, the christian god, zeus, horus, baal, ra and odin with well-argued proof-filled diatribes on why I should follow their own particular space god from beyond the stars.

Oh, and your book which says 'my god did it' does not count

Fire away, believers

Sorry.. are you coming from the position that humans evolved from slime billions of years ago?

That is totally irrelevant to the subject.

The question posed is what evidence do you have for your specific religion?

Read this very carefully, from this person's near death experience. She is neither a Christian, nor an atheist. Her experience is well documented.

This is the original NDE description that Anita Moorjani submitted to The Near Death Research Foundation in August 2006. The owner of the site, Dr. Jeffrey Long, an oncologist, contacted Anita within hours of her submitting it, asking follow up questions, which are below the the experience description.

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?
Yes. I saw and heard a conversation taking place between my doctor and my husband outside of my room and down a hallway. I saw my brother on a plane coming to see me. Both of these were verified, including the conversation beween my doctor and husband, which I repeated word for word.

The above is known as veridical information. Veridical information, rules out that the person merely imagined the experience, or that the experience was merely the result of chemical processes. There's many more cases like this.

Her full account is here:
[link to anitamoorjani.com]

The belief that we evolved from slime is a tenet of the Religion of Naturalism. So it is relevant and I wasn't sure if OP was challenging himself.

We could not convince you to come to Lord Jesus. It's a calling and you'll know when the time is right.

Where's your information from then?

From various sources,over several years of doing my own research.Can you say the same?Or do you just parrot whatever you hear on the MSM and from the scientific community?I'm willing to bet it's the later if you were honest with yourself :P

right and this proves the existence of your personal deity how?

i'm asking for proof of lord jesus, you got it?

The proof you seek can only come from you.


“Behold, I stand at the door and I shall knock. If a man listens to my voice and will
open the door, I also shall come in and I shall have supper with him, and he with me.

But without faith it is impossible to please Him,for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

i'm asking for proof of lord jesus, you got it?

oh very dull, answer the question on the first thread please

You honestly believe YOUR CREATOR is concerned with meeting your flippant demands to have Him prove Himself to you?

He has already left the miracle of the universe, life, and your consciousness as evidence. If you REALLY believe all of this came about from a random explosion and some slime then.. wow, talk about FAITH.

Your heart is hardened.

The fool in his heart, says there is no God.

You might find it dull, but it's accurate. You've signed onto a religion and don't even realize it.

Maybe this thread is evidence that you're finally beginning to question your own naturalist religion.

well no it isn't i was agnostic for some while then when I actually went church and listened to the vicar banging on about humans not being fit to eat the crumbs off gods table and actually read some of the bible i realised how horrific it was. as a kid we sang a happy song about the animals going into the ark two by two, what we aren't really aware of is that was because the christian god was going to murder everyone with a flood. then that leads onto what scientific proof was there that this flood happened anyway? bugger all
which leads onto well if thats not true what else is? none of it
which leads onto what proof is there for other gods as well then?
none whatsoever

whereas you are obviously some pseudo-christian who believes the bible anyway and has attached some fictional conspiracy to it