A Call for PEACE! We, The People, Now Choose Peace!

War is a racket, and anyone who tells you different is one of the racketeers.

Damn! This thread showed up on the front page, right under a thread titled "Israel will attack Iran in September"

No truer words have ever been spoken.

Definitely agree! It's time we stand up to these criminals!

Christians!

There are a large number of Christians in the U.S. and here on GLP, so help me understand this. What part of "Thou shalt not kill!" do you feel does not apply? This is an honest and serious question. I would really like to know how you justify all this killing.

Obviously a lot of Christians are okay with war, because of the sheer number of Christians living in the U.S. If all these Christians actively opposed war we wouldn't have war. So why don't you? I'm not being facetious; I'd really like to know.

Yes! Obama has bombed several sovereign nations, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya. He did not close Gitmo and he is frothing at the mouth to help the Muslim Brotherhood take over he middle east.
Visualize voting Obama out!

Last Edited by FubarMan on 09/03/2012 02:51 PM

I'm not a Christian, nor an American, but I can answer the question for you.

Christianity was infiltrated by zionist agents, and the old Christian ideas were replaced with new pro-zionist dogma. Christians of old always wanted to "save jewish people" by converting them to Christ. The Zio-Christians of today want to help making non-converted jewish people who loathe everything the old Christianity stood for the lords of the Earth instead. They somehow think this will make their Jesus happy.

It's really just a matter of knowing your history. Christians only need to research what Christianity used to be like 100 years ago or so. Then they could study exactly when and how the religion changed, and who did the changing.

But I guess it's easier to be a lemming.

Vote for Ron Paul 2012



(or Gary Johnson if Romney's campaign blocks Paul like the coward he is...)

Visualize Obama in his jail cell for war crimes. Visualize him not being able to push the drone service buttons.

Good points, and I don't disagree with any of them, but I think the bottom line is literally the bottom line of your post, "But I guess it's easier to be a lemming."

Sad but true!

Visualization that opposes another person is in a competitive mind set and doesn't work. Visualize a peaceful person in the position.

Mother Teresa never attended anti war rallies but she was all for a peace rally. She focused on what she wanted, not what she opposed.

The history of legislation to create a Department of Peace

The peace movement in the United States has a proposed legislative history that dates to the first years of the republic:

1793: Dr. Benjamin Rush, Founding Father (signer of the Declaration of Independence), wrote an essay titled "A plan of a Peace-Office for the United States".[1] Dr. Rush called for equal footing with the Department of War and pointed out the effect of doing so for the welfare of the United States in promoting and preserving perpetual peace in our country. First published in a 1793 almanac that Benjamin Banneker authored,[2] the plan stated:

1. Let a Secretary of Peace be appointed to preside in this office; . . . let him be a genuine republican and a sincere Christian. . . .

2. Let a power be given to the Secretary to establish and maintain free schools in every city, village and township in the United States; . . . Let the youth of our country be instructed in reading, writing, and arithmetic, and in the doctrines of a religion of some kind; the Christian religion should be preferred to all others; for it belongs to this religion exclusively to teach us not only to cultivate peace with all men, but to forgive—nay more, to love our very enemies. . . .

3. Let every family be furnished at public expense, by the Secretary of this office, with an American edition of the Bible. . . .

4. Let the following sentence be inscribed in letters of gold over the door of every home in the United States: The Son of Man Came into the World, Not To Destroy Men's Lives, But To Save Them.

5. To inspire a veneration for human life, and an horror at the shedding of human blood, let all those laws be repealed which authorize juries, judges, sheriffs, or hangmen to assume the resentments of individuals, and to commit murder in cold blood in any case whatever. . . .

6. To subdue that passion for war . . . militia laws should everywhere be repealed, and military dresses and military titles should be laid aside. . . .

1925: Carrie Chapman Catt, founder of the League of Women Voters, at the Cause and Cure for War Conference, publicly suggested a cabinet-level Department of Peace and secretary of peace be established.[3]
1926/1927: Kirby Page, author of A National Peace Department, wrote, published and distributed the first proposal for a cabinet-level Department of Peace and secretary of peace.[4]
1935: Senator Matthew M. Neely (D-West Virginia) wrote and introduced the first bill calling for the creation of a United States Department of Peace. Reintroduced in 1937 and 1939.
1943: Senator Alexander Wiley (R-Wisconsin) spoke on the Senate floor calling for the United States of America to become the first government in the world to have a secretary of peace.
1945: Representative Louis Ludlow (D-Indiana) re-introduced a bill to create a United States Department of Peace.
1946: Senator Jennings Randolph (D-West Virginia) re-introduced a bill to create a United States Department of Peace.
1947: Representative Everett Dirksen (R-Illinois) introduced a bill for “A Peace Division in the State Department”.
1955 to 1968: Eighty-five Senate and House of Representative bills were introduced calling for a United States Department of Peace.[5]
1969: Senator Vance Hartke (D-Indiana) and Representative Seymour Halpern (R-New York) re-introduced bills to create a U.S. Department of Peace in the House of Representatives and the Senate. The 14 Senate cosponsors of S. 953, "The Peace Act", included Birch Bayh (D-IN), Robert Byrd (D-WV), Alan Cranston (D-CA), Daniel Inouye (D-HI) and Edmund Muskie (D-ME). The 67 House cosponsors included Ed Koch of New York, Donald Fraser of Minnesota, and Abner Mikva of Illinois, as well as Republican Pete McCloskey of California.
1979: Senator Spark Matsunaga (D-Hawaii) re-introduced a bill to create a U.S. Department of Peace.
2001: Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) re-introduced a bill to create a U.S. Department of Peace. This bill has since been introduced in each session of Congress from 2001 to 2009. It was re-introduced as H.R. 808 on February 3, 2009 and is currently supported by 72 cosponsors. In July 2008, the first Republican cosponsor, Rep. Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD) signed on.
2005: Senator Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota) introduced legislation in the Senate to create a cabinet-level department of peace a week after Dennis Kucinich introduced a similar bill in the House.


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read your bible dude

Yes, indeed, great point! That's why this thread is focused on creating PEACE! Notice how it's mentioned in the title TWICE!

I think that was the biggest problem with the OWS or 'Occupy'
movement. They were quite clear about what they DIDN'T like, but they weren't focused on any real solutions. So the only "solutions" that got any airtime was the "gimme-more-free-stuff!" fringe group which was probably their ultimate downfall.

I respect the OP's sincere question, unlike this Swede who's making stuff up because of something they read by someone they don't know...notice he starts by saying he's not a Christian or an American, but somehow he's an authority on the subject...? Anyways, OP, to answer your question about Christians being ok with war. I personally absolutely oppose war. I believe "thou shall not kill" means exactly that. I know a lot of Christians who think just as I do about war, but the ones you usually hear about are the ones that are in politics being portrayed as war-mongers who don't care if people die, or else, it's someone you know in your family or a friend who spews stuff they heard someone else say on TV or at church, making it out to be some sort of absolute truth. I think this is a direct result of Christians being ordinary people (but more than likely having a self-righteous view of themselves). People are flawed, just as I am, but the moment someone says they're a Christian, they get clumped together with this distorted view of all Christians. This issue of peace is not something that I think should be sought after in a group, as your Meade quote alludes to, rather it's something that starts within. I'm going to stop right here so as to not get all preachy on you, but if you'd like I can try to fill you in on what I believe to be the answer to this peace issue, from a not-so-stereotypical Christian perspective.

Thank you, Calin! Politics for Peace; who'da thunk?!

If you guys haven't seen Calin's "Consciousness Testing/Raising, Energy Healing" thread, please check it out!
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wars are the ugly side of politics
and since our politicians serve alien interests
so do our wars.
the spoils of chaos mutual profit.

This is the Biggest load of


I have ever seen.