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Rickster58

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09/04/2012 02:04 AM

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Aussie Govt gives green light for online spying
Our corrupt socialist left govt has given the green light for legislation to proceed requiring ISP's to keep customers online data for 2 years - just in case the cops need it to prosecute your ass.

Guess who's paying for it? .........

Nicola Roxon backflip gives green light for online spying

ATTORNEY-General Nicola Roxon has reversed her position on online spy laws today, backing plans for ISPs to store user data for up to two years.

In a speech at the Security Government conference in Canberra, Ms Roxon said that law enforcement authorities needed to be able to collect user data in order to be better able to target criminals.

"Many investigations require law enforcement to build a picture of criminal activity over a period of time," Ms Roxon said.

"Without data retention, this capability will be lost.

"The intention behind the proposed reform is to allow law enforcement agencies to continue investigating crime in light of new technologies.

"The loss of this capability would be a major blow to our law enforcement agencies and to Australia's national security."

The Attorney -General's comments stand in stark contrast to reported comments earlier in the year where she doubted the effectiveness of the proposed measures.

[link to www.heraldsun.com.au]

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[link to www.zdnet.com]
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 03:04 AM
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I'd wager they've been doing it for 5-10 years already and this is just so they don't have to hide it anymore.

And I'd also wager it won't stay 2 years, they'll make it 3... then 5... then 10... then 20... then lifetime

Our grandkids are going to hate us
Rickster58 (OP)

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09/04/2012 03:25 AM

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I wonder how long it will take them to work up a search engine that they can apply to the masses of stored data ferreting out those who have visited gun sites, alternative media - even GLP.

This takes profiling to a whole new level
Rickster58 (OP)

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09/04/2012 03:27 AM

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Thanks for the pin
hf
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 03:31 AM
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this si what happens when you vote for a fabian/eastern star prime minister...

Idol1
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09/04/2012 03:33 AM
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I might just go back to cb radio
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09/04/2012 03:36 AM
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I wonder how long it will take them to work up a search engine that they can apply to the masses of stored data ferreting out those who have visited gun sites, alternative media - even GLP.

This takes profiling to a whole new level
 Quoting: Rickster58


That technology is already fully developed. Just need to purchase it off Google, who have been doing it for nearly 15 years.
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09/04/2012 03:40 AM

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this si what happens when you vote for a fabian/eastern star prime minister...

Idol1
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They are all the same...this is happening worldwide...Big brother is watching you!
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery - Bob Marley
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 03:43 AM
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I wonder how long it will take them to work up a search engine that they can apply to the masses of stored data ferreting out those who have visited gun sites, alternative media - even GLP.

This takes profiling to a whole new level
 Quoting: Rickster58


That technology is already fully developed. Just need to purchase it off Google, who have been doing it for nearly 15 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Who cares!!! The internet is a shithole now anyway, these idiots couldn't run a chook raffle....

applause2
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09/04/2012 03:48 AM

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So0 you guys fianally caught up with our spying ways??
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 03:49 AM
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I'm going to look at as many gun sites, bomb making websites as I can. Fuck them, let them profile me.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 03:52 AM
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I might just go back to cb radio
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Hopefully all the trolls will.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 03:52 AM
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for sure they have been doing it already, no doubt. they do until they can charge someone with a crime that doesn't require evidence from illegal data retention....
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09/04/2012 04:03 AM
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I'm going to look at as many gun sites, bomb making websites as I can. Fuck them, let them profile me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14896274


Sometimes I like to randomly spam some of the following words...

Bomb

Ammonium nitrate

Machine gun

Assassinate

Nerve Gas

Ricin

Anthrax

Dirty bomb

Suitcase nuke

Revolution

And of course the most dangerous word in the English language...

Liberty
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 04:05 AM
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I'd wager they've been doing it for 5-10 years already and this is just so they don't have to hide it anymore.

And I'd also wager it won't stay 2 years, they'll make it 3... then 5... then 10... then 20... then lifetime

Our grandkids are going to hate us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


they are doing it in every country of the world..but there is a very good reason to limit internet use ....
pretty soon,everybody will require permanent ID backed by solid documentation to use internet...it is law in India
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 04:19 AM
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I'd wager they've been doing it for 5-10 years already and this is just so they don't have to hide it anymore.

And I'd also wager it won't stay 2 years, they'll make it 3... then 5... then 10... then 20... then lifetime

Our grandkids are going to hate us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


norespect
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09/04/2012 04:22 AM
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Our corrupt socialist left govt has given the green light for legislation to proceed requiring ISP's to keep customers online data for 2 years - just in case the cops need it to prosecute your ass.

Guess who's paying for it? .........

Nicola Roxon backflip gives green light for online spying

ATTORNEY-General Nicola Roxon has reversed her position on online spy laws today, backing plans for ISPs to store user data for up to two years.

In a speech at the Security Government conference in Canberra, Ms Roxon said that law enforcement authorities needed to be able to collect user data in order to be better able to target criminals.

"Many investigations require law enforcement to build a picture of criminal activity over a period of time," Ms Roxon said.

"Without data retention, this capability will be lost.

"The intention behind the proposed reform is to allow law enforcement agencies to continue investigating crime in light of new technologies.

"The loss of this capability would be a major blow to our law enforcement agencies and to Australia's national security."

The Attorney -General's comments stand in stark contrast to reported comments earlier in the year where she doubted the effectiveness of the proposed measures.

[link to www.heraldsun.com.au]

see also

[link to www.zdnet.com]
 Quoting: Rickster58

however i smell a business oppourtinity here my friend..pretty soon all the data will be in india and we will run the data mining software
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09/04/2012 04:25 AM
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intelligence likes to gather info. like the press.
closed doors, the shadow. public justice a tool used selectively
plzxplain

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09/04/2012 04:28 AM
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We need to stand up for our rights.
Oh,just remembered,we don't have any!
Or do we?

I do hereby to say that I do not give my permission for any phone company or any internet services or providers to hold any of my communication in any way,shape or form.
Therefore,if you do,then you are acting illegally.
So go fu&^% yourselves

[link to www.nswccl.org.au]

The High Court of Australia has found an implied guarantee of freedom of political speech in the Constitution. This means that Australians are free to talk about politics. But that's it.

Haha, You mean I can say that f%^&$ useless lying redheaded mole who apparently should be jailed for theft (union slush funds) is ok to talk about,then lets go for it.
Rickster58 (OP)

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09/04/2012 04:36 AM

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So0 you guys fianally caught up with our spying ways??
 Quoting: GreyMatter


Seems we have indeed .....
Rickster58 (OP)

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09/04/2012 04:48 AM

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Privacy advocates and some people in the internet industry are today accusing the Federal Attorney General of proposing laws that they would only expect to see in a police state.

The Attorney General, Nicola Roxon, is making the case for a raft of new security measures which would see the internet browsing habits of all Australians logged.

Ms Roxon told a government security conference in Canberra that the controversial changes are necessary to bring law enforcement and intelligence agencies into the internet age.

[link to www.abc.net.au]
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 05:26 AM
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I'd wager they've been doing it for 5-10 years already and this is just so they don't have to hide it anymore.

And I'd also wager it won't stay 2 years, they'll make it 3... then 5... then 10... then 20... then lifetime

Our grandkids are going to hate us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


they are doing it in every country of the world..but there is a very good reason to limit internet use ....
pretty soon,everybody will require permanent ID backed by solid documentation to use internet...it is law in India
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23156223


Yep, that's where I think this is all going as well

A license to use the internet and a license to make websites
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 05:28 AM
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Porn and GLP and news and weather and sports will show up with me..

Now get fucked government.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 05:29 AM
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wth I thought you all were a free people.. another one bites the dust..
MzTreeChick

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09/04/2012 05:38 AM

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wth I thought you all were a free people.. another one bites the dust..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22447093



lmao funny, we have to pay for them to poison us with fluoridated water AND pay for the air we breath!

FREE PEOPLE hahaha




hf rockon
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09/04/2012 06:13 AM
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Did this have anything to do with Rupert Murdochyeahsure ?
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 06:21 AM
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I'd wager they've been doing it for 5-10 years already and this is just so they don't have to hide it anymore.

And I'd also wager it won't stay 2 years, they'll make it 3... then 5... then 10... then 20... then lifetime

Our grandkids are going to hate us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


they are doing it in every country of the world..but there is a very good reason to limit internet use ....
pretty soon,everybody will require permanent ID backed by solid documentation to use internet...it is law in India
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23156223


Yep, that's where I think this is all going as well

A license to use the internet and a license to make websites
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


everytime i use internet,i have to provide my photo id i.e. voter id /employers id/passport/driving licence
i also have t provide my address,mobile no and put sign on register
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 06:41 AM
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Forthright and upstanding pillar of OZ society, Nicola:

"Without data retention, this capability will be lost"

as apposed to her ealier comments:


"I'm not yet convinced that the cost and the return - the cost both to industry and the [privacy] cost to individuals - that we've made the case for what it is that people use in a way that benefits our national security,"

Why is it with these people. Just say: "We need to keep tabs on the herd and their hopes, dreams, desires, wants, their deepest personal thoughts so that I, Sheila or Nicola or whatever, and my accomplices Bruce and Chips here can use this info against them whenever we need to ensure our naional security which could be anything that threatens me and my gang of voyeurs."

Tust me, the OZ Regime are not doing this to keep the Proles safer - they just don't operate that way. The truth is behind the $'s. That info will be/has being put to some commercial use..you'll see.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 06:45 AM
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I'd wager they've been doing it for 5-10 years already and this is just so they don't have to hide it anymore.

And I'd also wager it won't stay 2 years, they'll make it 3... then 5... then 10... then 20... then lifetime

Our grandkids are going to hate us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


they are doing it in every country of the world..but there is a very good reason to limit internet use ....
pretty soon,everybody will require permanent ID backed by solid documentation to use internet...it is law in India
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23156223


Yep, that's where I think this is all going as well

A license to use the internet and a license to make websites
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


everytime i use internet,i have to provide my photo id i.e. voter id /employers id/passport/driving licence
i also have t provide my address,mobile no and put sign on register
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23156223


Fuck me, u deserve it scamming cunts
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2012 06:51 AM
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they are doing it in every country of the world..but there is a very good reason to limit internet use ....
pretty soon,everybody will require permanent ID backed by solid documentation to use internet...it is law in India
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23156223


Yep, that's where I think this is all going as well

A license to use the internet and a license to make websites
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20286929


everytime i use internet,i have to provide my photo id i.e. voter id /employers id/passport/driving licence
i also have t provide my address,mobile no and put sign on register
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23156223


Fuck me, u deserve it scamming cunts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23099237


why so angry,aussie? which state /city you are from?
Rickster58 (OP)

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09/04/2012 06:54 AM

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Check this out ..... Roxon's proposed laws are far more stringent than the European Union's Data Retention directive which requires ISP's to keep 6 months of data.

Roxon wants 2 years retention as well as allowing the police to commandeer the computer of an UNINVOLVED 3RD PARTY

From this source ....

[link to www.circleid.com]


If they became law, Ms Roxon's latest proposals would give Australia's intelligence agencies and law enforcement some of the greatest spy powers in the developed world. As well as storing web and telecommunications data (including data stored in the cloud and social networks) for two years, the proposed changes would also give authorities the right to commandeer the computer of an uninvolved third party if necessary to access a suspect's computer. If passed, these changes would be even more extreme than the European Union's controversial Data Retention Directive, which requires all data to be stored for six months. It follows attempts earlier this year by the UK and Canada to tighten up their online spy laws.

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