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I once heard the following Chinese proverb "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life. " So it's in this light I would rather take you to the source itself rather than hand you bits of information that I believe you will be interested in seeing.

It has been long journey but finally I believe I have figured out how everything is tied together all the way from beautiful illustration of Adam and Eve to the world we live in and what is purpose behind all this drama we witness in Life, and most importantly how TPTB fit into this story...

The last bits of informations came through this website, I highly recommend reading it...even if you are atheist and don't believe that Life has any greater meaning than that which meets the eye...

I am working on creating another Thread where I explain with details how I believe everything is fitting together...

But before I do that I hope you will visit following website. It will explain to you who the TPTB are worshiping and also why Humanism is their religion, if you are able connect the dots you will also realize why those "aliens" are so interested in us humans.

[link to www.godfire.net]

and check the main site of the website too, you won't regret it...Peace!

By the way if you have any questions, I will be more than happy to answer them.

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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22616368


The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22616368


The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
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I would argue that if you take the virgin birth as literal, this shows and gives evidence of the miraculous power of our God Almighty.
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Ok, I haven't read the website yet but isn't The Lucifer Question a gnostic approach?
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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22616368


The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


I would argue that if you take the virgin birth as literal, this shows and gives evidence of the miraculous power of our God Almighty.
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Complexity of Life with all it's mystery is not compelling evidence enough of existence of Almighty Creator?
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Ok, I haven't read the website yet but isn't The Lucifer Question a gnostic approach?
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Gnostics revere Lucifer as Beautiful and Divine being sometimes generally known as "Light Bearer" that wanted to give torch of illumination for mankind, and free man from the bondage of evil lesser God.

Now religious people consider that Lucifer and Satan "The Accuser" are one and the same, that before it's own fall Satan was once this glorious and luminous being full of beauty and knowledge. Which is not the case, I believe that real Gnostics knows that Satan and Lucifer are not the same identities, and that it's Adam the first man that God created in it's own image who is the Lucifer not the mysterious evil being called Satan. Satan is very misunderstood...

Yes Satan was the liar and is deceiver of the whole world...but Satan does not reside somewhere out there in this mysterious place called "Hades" or "Hell"...that thing which we call Satan it's own dominion and kingdom actually reside in our own mind. Satan is so close to us that it goes un-noticed most of the time...but Satan's kingdom reside within your mind, and it's from this place that Satan deceives whole world.

For as Khalil Gibran says;

"And what is it but fragments of your own self you would discard that you may become free?
If it is an unjust law you would abolish, that law was written with your own hand upon your own forehead.
You cannot erase it by burning your law books nor by washing the foreheads of your judges, though you pour the sea upon them.
And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.
For how can a tyrant rule the free and the proud, but for a tyranny in their own freedom and a shame in their own pride?"


-Khalil Gibran, Prophet, from the chapter "On Freedom"

Lciferianism is really about revering the first Adam and act of Self-Worship. This is the hidden secret of occults.

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Ok, I haven't read the website yet but isn't The Lucifer Question a gnostic approach?
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Gnostics revere Lucifer as Beautiful and Divine being sometimes generally known as "Light Bearer" that wanted to give torch of illumination for mankind, and free man from the bondage of evil lesser God.

Now religious people consider that Lucifer and Satan "The Accuser" are one and the same, that before it's own fall Satan was once this glorious and luminous being full of beauty and knowledge. Which is not the case, I believe that real Gnostics knows that Satan and Lucifer are not the same identities, and that it's Adam the first man that God created in it's own image who is the Lucifer not the mysterious evil being called Satan. Satan is very misunderstood...

Yes Satan was the liar and is deceiver of the whole world...but Satan does not reside somewhere out there in this mysterious place called "Hades" or "Hell"...that thing which we call Satan it's own dominion and kingdom actually reside in our own mind. Satan is so close to us that it goes un-noticed most of the time...but Satan's kingdom reside within your mind, and it's from this place that Satan deceives whole world.

For as Khalil Gibran says;

"And what is it but fragments of your own self you would discard that you may become free?
If it is an unjust law you would abolish, that law was written with your own hand upon your own forehead.
You cannot erase it by burning your law books nor by washing the foreheads of your judges, though you pour the sea upon them.
And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.
For how can a tyrant rule the free and the proud, but for a tyranny in their own freedom and a shame in their own pride?"


-Khalil Gibran, Prophet, from the chapter "On Freedom"

Lciferianism is really about revering the first Adam and act of Self-Worship. This is the hidden secret of occults.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


The matrix of illusion reside within your own mind, not out in the world. This is the true message of the Matrix movie.
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I recommend this:

[link to theforbiddenreligion.com]

Primordial Gnosis, and why the snake in the garden of Eden, a.k.a Lucifer, is a messenger sent by the Prime Creator. (not the YHVH guy)

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I recommend this:

[link to theforbiddenreligion.com]

Primordial Gnosis, and why the snake in the garden of Eden, a.k.a Lucifer, is a messenger sent by the Prime Creator. (not the YHVH guy)
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


Thanks for the link I will check the link and get back to discuss the snake later...
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The problem is, from the page of your first link:

"The casual readers may wonder why that since Lucifer is used so often elsewhere in the Bible that nowhere in these verses is the name "Lucifer" mentioned."

Lucifer is only mentioned ONCE on the Bible.

So this author starts his whole spew with wrong fact that I know. Imagine what I don't know...
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This is awesome, thank you
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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22616368


The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
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Most people do indeed have very little true understanding of what the Bible is really about, and what you've apparently failed to notice is that you are one of them.
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The problem is, from the page of your first link:

"The casual readers may wonder why that since Lucifer is used so often elsewhere in the Bible that nowhere in these verses is the name "Lucifer" mentioned."

Lucifer is only mentioned ONCE on the Bible.

So this author starts his whole spew with wrong fact that I know. Imagine what I don't know...
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I think if you had continued reading few paragraphs more it would have become obvious to you too that you took his words out of context...

Anyways on the very same page it says

"LUCIFER -- SON OF THE MORNING

...The above scenario is generally what is taught; however, if we take note, I believe we will find this is not quite the way it was. For instance, it is not realized by many just how many times Lucifer is found in the Bible. Most assume that it used as often as Satan. Would you be surprised to find that it is used only one time? One time alone! Not ten or twenty, not three or four, not even twice. Only once! One time in the entire Bible, and a worldwide dogmatic doctrine has been built around it. That’s shaky ground to stand upon to say the least."

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yes that is true thanks for posting and reminding
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22616368


The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd





Most people do indeed have very little true understanding of what the Bible is really about, and what you've apparently failed to notice is that you are one of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23120268


I might very well be one of them, now care to elaborate what Bible is really all about?

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yes that is true thanks for posting and reminding
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half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
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The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd





Most people do indeed have very little true understanding of what the Bible is really about, and what you've apparently failed to notice is that you are one of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23120268


I might very well be one of them, now care to elaborate what Bible is really all about?
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


Prophecy

most of the Bible contains prophecy of what is to occur either

1. the birth and death of Christ

2. the return of Christ
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The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd





Most people do indeed have very little true understanding of what the Bible is really about, and what you've apparently failed to notice is that you are one of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23120268


I might very well be one of them, now care to elaborate what Bible is really all about?
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


Prophecy

most of the Bible contains prophecy of what is to occur either

1. the birth and death of Christ

2. the return of Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22935991


1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

So are you saying that Bible is really all about prophecies that according to bible itself could and will fail? It would strange to consider the prophecies as the most important aspect of the bible in this light now wouldn't it?

While prophecies are important aspect of Bible, but this is not the essence of bible. By understanding the nature of what we call "Time" we can also understand why prophecies could fail, that's because time itself is illusion and so prophesied calamities are not set in stone.
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it's crap - do what thou wilt is crap. pure crap. did you hear that? it's crap.
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To All, Lucifer a bright and powerful Lanonadek Son (a spirit son of Michael of Nebadon)was the Sovereign of the System of Satania(one of the one thousand systems in Nebadon)who fell into ERROR,then the sin of PRIDE(self love and elevation of self over the WILL OF THE FATHER)and finally into iniquity when he started the Spiritual War in heaven two hundred thousand years ago!Lucifer sent his second in command Daligastia who was also a bright son of the Lanonadek Order out to all the Planetary Princes in the System of Satania to enlist them in his sedition and rebellion against the Heavenly Father and His Son Michael of Nebadon(a Paradise Creator Son,born of AT ONE MENT of Will of the First and Second Source and Center, THE FATHER and THE SON).Daligastia came down to our planet URANTIA, #606 of Satania and met with our Planetary Prince,whos name was Caligastia and enlisted him in the USURPATION! Upon this action the planet was put into immediate Spiritual Quarantine.

The Lucifer rebellion started more than two hundred thousand years ago and ended in 1984 with the Adjudication of the ones of the principalities of darkness,who chose not to accept The Fathers Forgiveness and chose uncreation instead.All the higher realms have had justice applied,only the realm of the density of matter and the ones born on birth spheres have yet to finish their choosing.To Be or not to Be,To Be in the presence of The Father and His and our Family or not.The Evil ones chose not to Be,do not follow them choose to Be

The one known as SATAN was Daligastia's assisttant . Satan means Adversary.

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To All, Lucifer a bright and powerful Lanonadek Son (a spirit son of Michael of Nebadon)was the Sovereign of the System of Satania(one of the one thousand systems in Nebadon)who fell into ERROR,then the sin of PRIDE(self love and elevation of self over the WILL OF THE FATHER)and finally into iniquity when he started the Spiritual War in heaven two hundred thousand years ago!Lucifer sent his second in command Daligastia who was also a bright son of the Lanonadek Order out to all the Planetary Princes in the System of Satania to enlist them in his sedition and rebellion against the Heavenly Father and His Son Michael of Nebadon(a Paradise Creator Son,born of AT ONE MENT of Will of the First and Second Source and Center, THE FATHER and THE SON).Daligastia came down to our planet URANTIA, #606 of Satania and met with our Planetary Prince,whos name was Caligastia and enlisted him in the USURPATION! Upon this action the planet was put into immediate Spiritual Quarantine.

The Lucifer rebellion started more than two hundred thousand years ago and ended in 1984 with the Adjudication of the ones of the principalities of darkness,who chose not to accept The Fathers Forgiveness and chose uncreation instead.All the higher realms have had justice applied,only the realm of the density of matter and the ones born on birth spheres have yet to finish their choosing.To Be or not to Be,To Be in the presence of The Father and His and our Family or not.The Evil ones chose not to Be,do not follow them choose to Be

The one known as SATAN was Daligastia's assisttant . Satan means Adversary.

the white rose
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but many of us is here now that chose uncreation why?
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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To All, Lucifer a bright and powerful Lanonadek Son (a spirit son of Michael of Nebadon)was the Sovereign of the System of Satania(one of the one thousand systems in Nebadon)who fell into ERROR,then the sin of PRIDE(self love and elevation of self over the WILL OF THE FATHER)and finally into iniquity when he started the Spiritual War in heaven two hundred thousand years ago!Lucifer sent his second in command Daligastia who was also a bright son of the Lanonadek Order out to all the Planetary Princes in the System of Satania to enlist them in his sedition and rebellion against the Heavenly Father and His Son Michael of Nebadon(a Paradise Creator Son,born of AT ONE MENT of Will of the First and Second Source and Center, THE FATHER and THE SON).Daligastia came down to our planet URANTIA, #606 of Satania and met with our Planetary Prince,whos name was Caligastia and enlisted him in the USURPATION! Upon this action the planet was put into immediate Spiritual Quarantine.

The Lucifer rebellion started more than two hundred thousand years ago and ended in 1984 with the Adjudication of the ones of the principalities of darkness,who chose not to accept The Fathers Forgiveness and chose uncreation instead.All the higher realms have had justice applied,only the realm of the density of matter and the ones born on birth spheres have yet to finish their choosing.To Be or not to Be,To Be in the presence of The Father and His and our Family or not.The Evil ones chose not to Be,do not follow them choose to Be

The one known as SATAN was Daligastia's assisttant . Satan means Adversary.

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but many of us is here now that chose uncreation why?
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MANY HAVE CHANCE TO CHANGE MIND.

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To All, Lucifer a bright and powerful Lanonadek Son (a spirit son of Michael of Nebadon)was the Sovereign of the System of Satania(one of the one thousand systems in Nebadon)who fell into ERROR,then the sin of PRIDE(self love and elevation of self over the WILL OF THE FATHER)and finally into iniquity when he started the Spiritual War in heaven two hundred thousand years ago!Lucifer sent his second in command Daligastia who was also a bright son of the Lanonadek Order out to all the Planetary Princes in the System of Satania to enlist them in his sedition and rebellion against the Heavenly Father and His Son Michael of Nebadon(a Paradise Creator Son,born of AT ONE MENT of Will of the First and Second Source and Center, THE FATHER and THE SON).Daligastia came down to our planet URANTIA, #606 of Satania and met with our Planetary Prince,whos name was Caligastia and enlisted him in the USURPATION! Upon this action the planet was put into immediate Spiritual Quarantine.

The Lucifer rebellion started more than two hundred thousand years ago and ended in 1984 with the Adjudication of the ones of the principalities of darkness,who chose not to accept The Fathers Forgiveness and chose uncreation instead.All the higher realms have had justice applied,only the realm of the density of matter and the ones born on birth spheres have yet to finish their choosing.To Be or not to Be,To Be in the presence of The Father and His and our Family or not.The Evil ones chose not to Be,do not follow them choose to Be

The one known as SATAN was Daligastia's assisttant . Satan means Adversary.

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but many of us is here now that chose uncreation why?
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MANY HAVE CHANCE TO CHANGE MIND.

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the unshaken love of the FATHER yes it is our own pain of awakening from death that consumes us my mind is changed for sure
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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Re: The Lucifer Question
half way through reading it

its cool makes some sense but i wish i knew more about the bible i will say though it rings true to me even though I'm ignorant of everything in the bible
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The rest of writings on that website is equally interesting, just move to the main page and there in is explained other subjects too.

Most of people have very little true understanding of what Bible is really about and so they fail to see that there are actually multiple layers hidden behind allegorical stories. One of the examples is the Virgin birth of the Jesus, most who have read bible think that He either was born out of mortal virgin or birth of Jesus is really only symbolical representation of astrology and the birth of him never took place...this is why the Zeitgeist is so popular because it has seed of truth in it. For what really happened is that there was astrological sign in heaven at the time when boy was born to women, and the story about the Virgin giving birth to the son was really depiction of this astrological event taking place, that of related to Virgo. This becomes quite obvious if one remember that three wise Magi's (Who practiced Zoroastrianism) were following the signs in heaven to determine where this boy with divine destiny will be born.

But the story itself of Jesus being born of Virgin physical mother Mary is false and creation of those who control the world. If you take the story itself literally you cannot see the multiple layers hidden, it's only when you recognize that Bible is allegorical master piece and that is full of symbology, because that's how the "truth" is conserved.
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Most people do indeed have very little true understanding of what the Bible is really about, and what you've apparently failed to notice is that you are one of them.
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Well, to be fair, God designed it so that ONLY ONE person can understand it, fully. God reveals his secrets to his servants and they do the revealing...

Daniel 10
[21] But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

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