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who here would hire an ex convict?

 
Bowyn Aerrow

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Regardless of the reasons...you made your bed and now you have to lay in it.

Society judges people by their deeds...

With the internet today anyone can do a back ground check on another in seconds...

Nobody wants to take a chance on felons because of what could happen. How can anyone be totally sure you are rehabilitated fully and won't turn...

Would you trust you alone with your family & business.

There are thousands of "good" people out of work that would make a better employee...based on past deeds...

You are in a very sad situation and you are the blame...like it or not...

Start your own business....painting or lawn care or window washing....build your good reputation again...
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Here here, spoken like a true American.

Incidentally, you do understand that the USA has more prisoners per capita than any other place in the world, including the old USSR.

Further, the USA has the most cases of 'repeat' offenders - not because they didn't try, but because so many people in America lack charity, compassion and even human decency to give a guy a break.

40+ years ago a guy stepping out of prison was considered to have paid his debt to society in full. Today Society insists on making him pay, and pay and pay again.

The problem is not the ex-cons. Most, especially first time offenders try real hard when they are first released to never go back again.

Since they have had such an experience that you can't really fully imagine, they try harder, work harder, and if given sufficient breaks and a decent go at it, most never, ever make the same mistake twice.

THAT is why I started hiring mostly ex-cons. I saw decent hard work - real hard work, and grateful men - mean grateful for the change to 'make it right'. They worked hard to stay out of prison (once was enough, nobody likes it in there).

Give me two people with the same credentials, education and skill sets, I will hire the ex-con over the person who has never been arrested. Why?

Because I know the ex-con is going to be willing to work harder to not go back. S/he has already had a taste of that. That young upstart that never got caught, will slack all day long and do less because they didn't have the 'bad experience' to teach them what exactly to be grateful for in life.
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you could apply at the TSA. Their background checks only go back 10 years.
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baliff, doorman/bouncer, contract killer. stuff like that.
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The non violent ones have more work ethic then your local millionare.
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Sex offenders CANNOT be rehabilitated! I would hire a stone cold killer before a rapist or child molester!

So as long as you are neither of them. You deserve a second chance.
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I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Yes I would hire you - and that's because I understand and have known many good people who have done bad things out of desperation - I don't even know how you survived your childhood. But your heart is now in the right place and if you were applying for employment I would see that.

And please keep trying, and don't even consider going back to your old ways, because as you said you've got a wonderful family and that would just destroy them, if/when you were sent back to prison.

Never give up! Positive thoughts your way.

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Regardless of the reasons...you made your bed and now you have to lay in it.

Society judges people by their deeds...

With the internet today anyone can do a back ground check on another in seconds...

Nobody wants to take a chance on felons because of what could happen. How can anyone be totally sure you are rehabilitated fully and won't turn...

Would you trust you alone with your family & business.

There are thousands of "good" people out of work that would make a better employee...based on past deeds...

You are in a very sad situation and you are the blame...like it or not...

Start your own business....painting or lawn care or window washing....build your good reputation again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


Here here, spoken like a true American.

Incidentally, you do understand that the USA has more prisoners per capita than any other place in the world, including the old USSR.

Further, the USA has the most cases of 'repeat' offenders - not because they didn't try, but because so many people in America lack charity, compassion and even human decency to give a guy a break.

40+ years ago a guy stepping out of prison was considered to have paid his debt to society in full. Today Society insists on making him pay, and pay and pay again.

The problem is not the ex-cons. Most, especially first time offenders try real hard when they are first released to never go back again.

Since they have had such an experience that you can't really fully imagine, they try harder, work harder, and if given sufficient breaks and a decent go at it, most never, ever make the same mistake twice.

THAT is why I started hiring mostly ex-cons. I saw decent hard work - real hard work, and grateful men - mean grateful for the change to 'make it right'. They worked hard to stay out of prison (once was enough, nobody likes it in there).

Give me two people with the same credentials, education and skill sets, I will hire the ex-con over the person who has never been arrested. Why?

Because I know the ex-con is going to be willing to work harder to not go back. S/he has already had a taste of that. That young upstart that never got caught, will slack all day long and do less because they didn't have the 'bad experience' to teach them what exactly to be grateful for in life.
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You are a good soul with a true heart. A rare breed of great men. Thanks for all you have done in your life and touching these hurt souls with some human love.

Peace be with you and yours! hf

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I believe everybody deserves a second chance....
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good luck, Do everything in your being to go it on your own. Start a business. You will always be profiled as a piece of shit even though you have a desire to change. A business will be built by you or destroyed by you with nobody to blame if you screw up and will reward only you when it works. If an employer is not impressed because of your rap sheet, fuuk em! compete against them. After all, they are just a business as well. As your business grows you will at least have some understanding as to why an employer may shun a bad boy, however if a bad boy came to you for a job in your business I suppose you could judge that character better than your competition. God Bless.
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With a rap sheet like that I'd never ever hire you. I have personally worked with ex convicts who got on the right track way before they dug themself a hole like you have. You made your bed OP.
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That rap sheet was that size when I was 19, yea a real adult in some eyes but I was a child without guidance, all I saw was others with stuff, I had nothing including a roof, so yea maybe I did make my own bed, but as a society you and others with opinions like yours added to that bed so do not think you did not for one second.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23155572


Life is a culmination of one's choices and decisions.

I wouldn't hire you.

To hire you is to you allow you to continue on the same road...otherwise you'd be off that road and not even discussing said things.

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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
Probably not...are you covered in tattoos?





tattoosarepretty
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lol, what is wrong with tattoos?

You may be surprised but many, many hot women love them and they actually open doors for me. In addition, they cover easily with a long sleeve short so I could fool 100% of your CEO's who foolishly says what you had said with a simple long sleeve shirt.

Me Moe-Ses
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Having tattoos is just screaming poor decision making skills...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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I appreciate what you are saying and the frustration...but for me, I look at it that you are closing in on the right time to change for yourself and your family...


understand this

You were without guidance for so very long and accumulated bad 'baggage'


how many years you sought the way of the snake to survive, whatever it takes


now you must adapt or die and you have per what you have said


HOWEVER, you were doing the wrong thing for how long???


you must then be willing to do the right thing, not because of immediate reward but out of the principle of the change you are trying to create/manifest for you and your family


You will have to keep at it and it DOES start to manifest...

do not be discouraged, as it is rigged on the earth right now to push on you to do the wrong thing, as it is so much easier in many ways(so it seems) but you already know that is the way to the end...


Do not be discouraged, keep at it and ignore the naysayers and the mockers for they shall continue to do as they do whether it were you or another


Likewise, there are those who will offer opportunity to grow in a positive way, discern well, it will come for you in time...to all things a season


Know also that with enough cash one can wipe records...even large ones...so what is 'criminal' for the poor is ignored when the wealthy partake by thievery...


Your children are your seed, raise them up as well as you can protecting them from such errors in judgment


The Most High provides, even in miraculous ways

I attest to this in my own life

providing food and shelter, but deepen your understanding and faith in that which you have yet to know...it will arrive

be gracious in all ways

forgiving many of their errors as well, and you shall find peace within and joy as well


Take care
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I can see it now. The lawyer says:

'''and you knowingly hired an ex convict with a felony record'''''
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Probably not...are you covered in tattoos?





tattoosarepretty
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lol, what is wrong with tattoos?

You may be surprised but many, many hot women love them and they actually open doors for me. In addition, they cover easily with a long sleeve short so I could fool 100% of your CEO's who foolishly says what you had said with a simple long sleeve shirt.

Me Moe-Ses
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Having tattoos is just screaming poor decision making skills...
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on your face, yes. tattoos on my body honor my ancestors who have done them for thousands of years.

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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23155572


I would depending on their history and how I feel, when I have a conversation with them. Everyone makes mistakes and who knows, maybe they were innocent.

People also change for the better. I believe in the good in each person. So as long as you didn't hurt innocent people, there is something to talk about.

Drugs should not be a crime, unless you are forcing other people to do them. People should have the right to put whatever they want in their body. It is their body.

Get it?
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I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23155572


I hired an ex-con, worked with him to get him promoted to asst. manager at one of my restaurants.

He got into a fight with a shift employee and stole the register right after the dinner shift, (Full of Money).

Police arrested him 3 hours later. He is still Prison as he was wanted by the State for back child support. He got 10 years.
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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
OP,

There are "No Ex-Cons" just Con's awaiting the next Con.

Lesson Learned!
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Waiting for others to provide work, relying on others to overlook your past... just excuses.

Here's my advice. Save money like a miser. Eat cheap, drive cheap, and take every odd job you can. Save the money.

Invest it in a business. Could be anything that you can start small.

I knew a guy who saved up for a dump truck, and got jobs hauling for construction. several years later he has a dozen trucks, and works in his own office.

There is a way, but sitting on your ass 27 days a month complaining about the cards you were delt and played, wont get you shit.

Either find a way, or make a way.
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It's always somebody elses fault isn't it OP?!

HELL NO I wouldn't hire you!
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I'd give you a chance, if I had one to give. Don't go back to the evil life, this life is only temporary. What you do here and how you live really does count. If you put your trust in God he can open doors for you that you cannot envision right now. I will pray for you. Be strong, you have the desire and the will to do honest work and I really do applaud you for that. That is something to be proud of, it shows that you have learned from your mistakes and want to grow. Don't let the devil tempt you back into self destruction. Your life does mean something to God, even if people cannot see past what is already done. You are precious to him and he sees your heart and does not look at your record. I will pray others will see your heart over your mistakes, also. Hang in there. Keep fighting, something is on the horizon for you, but you have to resist falling back on the flesh and what is comfortable and familiar and face what is unseen and yet unknown - that is defined as faith. Have faith.
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OP,

There are "No Ex-Cons" just Con's awaiting the next Con.


Lesson Learned!
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Exactly, once a con always a con.

And the op can start by not telling everyone he is a convict.
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I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23155572


I'm not an ex-convict myself, but I did some dumb shit myself in my youth, so I can relate, to a point.

That said...

You have obviously done some pretty bad things in the past. I think if you went into detail on some of your low points, people would freak out. It's only natural that people are cautious of you.

The question is of course, just how converted are you really? I would wish to look you in the eye and let my soul be the judge, before I hired you. If I then see you have cleaned your house, I might even hire you before someone else equally qualified, because that shows great spirit!

But if I look you in the eye and see a bully, I'll kick you out in a second. I truly can't stand bullies, and I want nothing to do with them. This goes beyond logic and reason, it is actual hate. I have suffered enough from bullies as a kid, and there's not a chance in hell I'm giving one of them a chance to hurt me as an adult!

This is all extremely academical though, since I'm not an employer anyway!
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Sorry not hiring but I can say Never give up on yourself especially if you feel
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I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Yer goose is cooked. I wouldn't hire you to pick up my dogs shit. Besides, you're obviously dumb as a bag o hammers.
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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
baliff, doorman/bouncer, contract killer. stuff like that.
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Don't forget comedy...

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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Yer goose is cooked. I wouldn't hire you to pick up my dogs shit. Besides, you're obviously dumb as a bag o hammers.
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Well if you are too dumb to know that this guy get's paid to make these threads to sooth your "viewpoint" then i'll have to show you the floating hammer trick.
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09/20/2012 02:38 PM
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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
I brought myself up in the middle of an inner city.

Ex armed robber.
Ex drug dealer.
Ex thug for hire.
Ex convict.
I have over 40 convictions.


No fucker wants to employ me even though I have not been arrested for a crime for over 10 years.

I have to work shit cash jobs like digging trenches wheel barrowing and basically most of the shit jobs on building sites, good money but I only get work through friends or no work at all, so at the moment I get maybe 2 3 days a month.

I was an orphan so had no guidance, I was wild like an animal, never cared for others at all, got my first arrest at the age of 11 years old, I was stealing food to eat as I was alone.

They sent me to a children's home, they could not control me, I ran away and have been alone since the age of 12, by the time I was 16 I was a professional armed robber having robbed most of the local high st banks you see today, then got a conscience so stopped robbing banks as I was scaring the tellers so started to rob drug dealers, then I had to get rid of the drugs so became a drug dealer, then I got good at it so started to import, then my conscience kicked in again so I gave it all up to work a normal job,. have not had one since I gave up all that stuff all those years ago, now what, now what is society meant to do with people like me, I am smart I taught myself to read and write, good at math never had to write down what was owed to me it all stays in the head, taught myself how to use computers, I am a qualified fitness instructor, (passed course in jail) plus life guard, no one will hire me, so I dig, I carry, I smash, I load, I do manual bullshit, I am fit and healthy, I have two wonderful kids and an understanding woman, she luckily is working or we would be in trouble, she earns a good wage but I want to support my family, who glp would hire an ex armed robber or someone who used to beat the police up for fun?


Society turned its back on me as a kid, now they do it again as an adult, I may as well be who they wish and make loads of money in ways society does not approve of, I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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I'm not an ex-convict myself, but I did some dumb shit myself in my youth, so I can relate, to a point.

That said...

You have obviously done some pretty bad things in the past. I think if you went into detail on some of your low points, people would freak out. It's only natural that people are cautious of you.

The question is of course, just how converted are you really? I would wish to look you in the eye and let my soul be the judge, before I hired you. If I then see you have cleaned your house, I might even hire you before someone else equally qualified, because that shows great spirit!

But if I look you in the eye and see a bully, I'll kick you out in a second. I truly can't stand bullies, and I want nothing to do with them. This goes beyond logic and reason, it is actual hate. I have suffered enough from bullies as a kid, and there's not a chance in hell I'm giving one of them a chance to hurt me as an adult!

This is all extremely academical though, since I'm not an employer anyway!
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So basically, let ME define who and what you are based on KNOWLEDGE I have of you which I can use to MY advantage.

You take someones "record" to define them as beneath you, in essence making them your slave.

...can't even carry your own "bully water". I mean face it. It is YOU that is bullying HIM.
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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
So basically, let ME define who and what you are based on KNOWLEDGE I have of you which I can use to MY advantage.
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Sure. Why on Earth wouldn't you make use of your KNOWLEDGE to YOUR advantage?

For instance, if you KNOW I am a scam artist, wouldn't you make use of this knowledge to avoid being scammed by me?

You take someones "record" to define them as beneath you, in essence making them your slave.
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Freedom of association, ever heard of that one?

If someone has a "record" of doing stuff I don't wish them to do to me, I am free to not associate with them. It is the first line of defense on this troubled planet.

Besides, how is someone a "slave" just because I won't hire them? That's strange logic.

...can't even carry your own "bully water". I mean face it. It is YOU that is bullying HIM.
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Oh, the poor thing! I tell him I would hire him if I believe he has sincerely left his thug ways behind him, but not if I think he's still a thug!

Yeah, that's the definition of bullying, isn't it?
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09/20/2012 03:39 PM
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Re: who here would hire an ex convict?
I hear that Kroger hires ex cons to work in the warehouse.
Apparently other large grocery chains do too.
Good luck to you - I hope you can find a good job and start on a good path. It's a cruel world out there.