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Thread: ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE IS NEAR FOLKS: "Scientists develop VIRUS which kills cancer" just like in the movie I AM LEGEND

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Cancer is caused by a nutritional defficiency that allows cancer virus to grow in body.

No drug can cure a nutritional deficiency. The viruses will just keep coming back untill the deficiency is addressed.

Like only vitamin C can cure scurvy. No drug can cure scurvy.
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You peddle disinformation.
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There is a truth to what the AC says that been certain nutritional deficiencies are indeed linked to certain cancers.

This is one of many I could post but it opens the door.

Decreased incidence of prostate cancer with selenium supplementation: results of a double-blind cancer prevention trial
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I don't see any reason why this can't be investigated further.
Every potential cure deserves that.

However, as has already been hinted at above (thanks Treyfish) many compounds have the ability to kill cancer cells IN VITRO. It's only when they're exposed to all of the body's biochemical and physiological processes that you find out whether they are viable or not.
For instance, it's well known that paracetamol injected directly into a cancer cell will kill it. However, you'd die of liver failure if you took enough to kill cancer systemically.
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Cancer is a FUNGUS
Cure?
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Please don't post such misinformed bullshit
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The body regards semen as a cancer. Will this shit eat my nuts off?
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This guy and anyone related to his work are dead very soon, no doubt about it.
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nah it won't have to come to that because unless the makers of this thing can throw in all the money to take it through the phase 1,2,3 of trails then it will never make it to the people.

This is how they control things.
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I don't see any reason why this can't be investigated further.
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Well here's a reason for you. It's not going to make Big Pharma millions of dollars.
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Cancer is caused by a nutritional defficiency that allows cancer virus to grow in body.

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Not a chance.
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..well cancer isn't a virus..soooo....but some viruses might case a small percentage of cancers...start with a false premise and if you get the right answer, it's a accident...the Doc said he hasn't done human trials, only lab...yet the headline says otherwise ?...mmmm...
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Why don't they make it available to all cancer clinics right now?

At least let people have the option to treat their terminal cancer, even if it hasn't gone through all the trials.
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I don't see any reason why this can't be investigated further.
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Well here's a reason for you. It's not going to make Big Pharma millions of dollars.
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And you really believe that don't you?

It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. Thatís an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that itís difficult), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now Iím not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they arenít always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable.
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I don't see any reason why this can't be investigated further.
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Well here's a reason for you. It's not going to make Big Pharma millions of dollars.
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And you really believe that don't you?

It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. Thatís an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that itís difficult), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now Iím not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they arenít always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable.
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You might like this one hehehe

"I point to the excellent research by Merrill Goozner who did a massively thorough debunking of the $800 million number seven years ago, showing that the true number was closer to $35 million."

[link to www.techdirt.com]

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Big Pharma will not allow the introduction of a cancer cure. a cure for cancer will mean a huge revenue loss for big pharma.
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Do u guys think they will make a anticancer drug safe? Hell no, they will make the anticancer into a vacfine but they will first mix it with a brand new type of cancer like disease that will start showin up 20-30 years later... Then that will be the new cancer and it wont be curable until another 50-60 years. Of course they will blame it on something new too like some new ecological changes that made a possible habitat for this new cancer to flourish... That is my 100% belief that this will happen when we get the cure. Its a never ending cycle of diseases
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I don't see any reason why this can't be investigated further.
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Well here's a reason for you. It's not going to make Big Pharma millions of dollars.
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And you really believe that don't you?

It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. Thatís an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that itís difficult), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now Iím not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they arenít always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable.
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You might like this one hehehe

"I point to the excellent research by Merrill Goozner who did a massively thorough debunking of the $800 million number seven years ago, showing that the true number was closer to $35 million."

[link to www.techdirt.com]
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Ah, you have to buy his book to see how he's done it though....
I know from my time in the medical device industry I know exactly just how much money it costs to bring a brand-new device to market. Okay themes on an existing device don't cost as much which is why the companies bring out "families" of devices but a brand new costs millions upon millions.

But even if the figure is much lower, how much would a single pharma company stand to make with a cancer cure? From a financial perspective that's the Holy Grail of pharmaceuticals.
I really don't understand the logic of people stating the opposite.
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Cancer is a FUNGUS
Cure?
Baking soda and maple syrup
Hemp oil
Vit b 17
Mushrooms
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where are your facts to make such a lame
post,none of the above will cure cancer,
sad part is neither will chemo and radiation,
what you have listed above gives one false hope,
chemo and rads gives the same only with added benefits
like weakness,rashes,internal bleeding,headaches,weight loss,
Constipation,diarrhea,hair loss and the list go's on and on
Some win most don't,either way.
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Well here's a reason for you. It's not going to make Big Pharma millions of dollars.
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And you really believe that don't you?

It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. Thatís an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that itís difficult), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now Iím not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they arenít always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable.
 Quoting: Cahill


You might like this one hehehe

"I point to the excellent research by Merrill Goozner who did a massively thorough debunking of the $800 million number seven years ago, showing that the true number was closer to $35 million."

[link to www.techdirt.com]
 Quoting: Fhirinne


Ah, you have to buy his book to see how he's done it though....
I know from my time in the medical device industry I know exactly just how much money it costs to bring a brand-new device to market. Okay themes on an existing device don't cost as much which is why the companies bring out "families" of devices but a brand new costs millions upon millions.

But even if the figure is much lower, how much would a single pharma company stand to make with a cancer cure? From a financial perspective that's the Holy Grail of pharmaceuticals.
I really don't understand the logic of people stating the opposite.
 Quoting: Cahill


I would say maybe a lot depending on how many drugs they have on the market and such. They say cancer is set to rise by 75% by 2030 thats a lot of money there.
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This probably comes from a recent finding that the common cold virus attacks the cancer cells.

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It seems that reovirus is even cleverer than we had thought,Ē study author Dr. Alan Melcher, professor of clinical oncology and biotherapy at Leeds University in the U.K. said in a statement. ďBy piggybacking on blood cells, the virus is managing to hide from the bodyís natural immune response and reach its target intact. This could be hugely significant for the uptake of viral therapies like this in clinical practice.

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what was that film called. I AM LEGEND!!!!

sounds the same
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Cancer is caused by a nutritional defficiency that allows cancer virus to grow in body.

No drug can cure a nutritional deficiency. The viruses will just keep coming back untill the deficiency is addressed.

Like only vitamin C can cure scurvy. No drug can cure scurvy.
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Probably one of the smartest posts in GLP history.
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Well here's a reason for you. It's not going to make Big Pharma millions of dollars.
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And you really believe that don't you?

It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. Thatís an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that itís difficult), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now Iím not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they arenít always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable.
 Quoting: Cahill


You might like this one hehehe

"I point to the excellent research by Merrill Goozner who did a massively thorough debunking of the $800 million number seven years ago, showing that the true number was closer to $35 million."

[link to www.techdirt.com]
 Quoting: Fhirinne


Ah, you have to buy his book to see how he's done it though....
I know from my time in the medical device industry I know exactly just how much money it costs to bring a brand-new device to market. Okay themes on an existing device don't cost as much which is why the companies bring out "families" of devices but a brand new costs millions upon millions.

But even if the figure is much lower, how much would a single pharma company stand to make with a cancer cure? From a financial perspective that's the Holy Grail of pharmaceuticals.
I really don't understand the logic of people stating the opposite.
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Well I think if big pharma could make money from this they would be funding it already. Supposedly this virus melts away cancers in animal tests, but no-one is prepared to put up the money for clinical testing? The money required is small change for the big drug companies. The only logical conclusion is that the virus is so cheap to produce that big pharma can't justify charging their normal extortionate prices. Lets not forget that private companies exist primarily to benefit their shareholders.
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Cancer is caused by a nutritional defficiency that allows cancer virus to grow in body.

No drug can cure a nutritional deficiency. The viruses will just keep coming back untill the deficiency is addressed.

Like only vitamin C can cure scurvy. No drug can cure scurvy.
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Probably one of the smartest posts in GLP history.
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Yep.
Especially from a depopulation perspective...
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Baking soda and maple syrup...cruise


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And you really believe that don't you?

It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. Thatís an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that itís difficult), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now Iím not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they arenít always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable.
 Quoting: Cahill


You might like this one hehehe

"I point to the excellent research by Merrill Goozner who did a massively thorough debunking of the $800 million number seven years ago, showing that the true number was closer to $35 million."

[link to www.techdirt.com]
 Quoting: Fhirinne


Ah, you have to buy his book to see how he's done it though....
I know from my time in the medical device industry I know exactly just how much money it costs to bring a brand-new device to market. Okay themes on an existing device don't cost as much which is why the companies bring out "families" of devices but a brand new costs millions upon millions.

But even if the figure is much lower, how much would a single pharma company stand to make with a cancer cure? From a financial perspective that's the Holy Grail of pharmaceuticals.
I really don't understand the logic of people stating the opposite.
 Quoting: Cahill


Well I think if big pharma could make money from this they would be funding it already. Supposedly this virus melts away cancers in animal tests, but no-one is prepared to put up the money for clinical testing? The money required is small change for the big drug companies. The only logical conclusion is that the virus is so cheap to produce that big pharma can't justify charging their normal extortionate prices. Lets not forget that private companies exist primarily to benefit their shareholders.
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They don't base the price of a drug on how cheap it is to just produce.
Most drugs only cost pennies anyway. They justify the cost on a myriad of reasons, r & d, trials, marketing, etc etc etc.
If no-one's putting the money up for testing then there is usually a very good reason. Generally that they think it will come to nothing.
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I AM LEGEND .

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SHIT! That was the story line, wasn't it? The virus mutated and BAM! 96% infection rate in less than 3 months. The zombie apocalypse swept the world.

Oh, this is not good news.
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Cancer is a FUNGUS
Cure?
Baking soda and maple syrup
Hemp oil
Vit b 17
Mushrooms
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If it is a fungus, all you need is oreganol P73 the best kept secret on the planet. Tastes terrible but I take several drops a day.

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And we call it Captain Trips...
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What he said....
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ďOne of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weíve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Weíre no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Itís simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weíve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.Ē Ė Carl Sagan
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Cancer is a FUNGUS
Cure?
Baking soda and maple syrup
Hemp oil
Vit b 17
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This!!!!
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Cancer is a FUNGUS
Cure?
Baking soda and maple syrup
Hemp oil
Vit b 17
Mushrooms
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where are your facts to make such a lame
post,none of the above will cure cancer,
sad part is neither will chemo and radiation,
what you have listed above gives one false hope,
chemo and rads gives the same only with added benefits
like weakness,rashes,internal bleeding,headaches,weight loss,
Constipation,diarrhea,hair loss and the list go's on and on
Some win most don't,either way.
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OK, Here's one "cocktail:"

ONE part baking soda (NOT with aluminum in it), THREE parts Maple syrup (ALL NATURAL only).
Mix & heat, but NOT to boiling.

What does it do?
Syrup is sugar....draws cancer cells to it (they LIVE and reproduce by eating sugar)
Baking soda kills them by changing the Ph balance in your blood to more alkaline, less acidic.

Take ONE teaspoon once or twice a day.

THAT's how that one works, TARDS.

Vit B17 is also supposed to work, but has - for the most part - been banned (It's laetril...it's supposedly toxic? So what! If someone is facing a death sentence, shouldn't they have the right to try something that MIGHT save them if they want?).

Hemp? Never heard that one
'Shrooms? That one neither!
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Cancer is a FUNGUS
Cure?
Baking soda and maple syrup
Hemp oil
Vit b 17
Mushrooms
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2192414


where are your facts to make such a lame
post,none of the above will cure cancer,
sad part is neither will chemo and radiation,
what you have listed above gives one false hope,
chemo and rads gives the same only with added benefits
like weakness,rashes,internal bleeding,headaches,weight loss,
Constipation,diarrhea,hair loss and the list go's on and on
Some win most don't,either way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1568805


OK, Here's one "cocktail:"

ONE part baking soda (NOT with aluminum in it), THREE parts Maple syrup (ALL NATURAL only).
Mix & heat, but NOT to boiling.

What does it do?
Syrup is sugar....draws cancer cells to it (they LIVE and reproduce by eating sugar)
Baking soda kills them by changing the Ph balance in your blood to more alkaline, less acidic.

Take ONE teaspoon once or twice a day.

THAT's how that one works, TARDS.

Vit B17 is also supposed to work, but has - for the most part - been banned (It's laetril...it's supposedly toxic? So what! If someone is facing a death sentence, shouldn't they have the right to try something that MIGHT save them if they want?).

Hemp? Never heard that one
'Shrooms? That one neither!
 Quoting: MB713 19084541


Do a little more research.. [link to phkillscancer.com]
you will find out he raised his PH to 8
and kept it there 5 days,a cancer patient in
dire straights has no chance in hell to achieve
this.

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