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JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets

 
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JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
The United States may supply Israel with advanced Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bunker-buster bombs that can penetrate through up to 60 feet (almost 20 meters) of reinforced concrete, reports Maariv Tuesday.

This is part of a deal being worked out between the countries, which also includes the supply of refueling jets.

In exchange for the weapons, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will agree to hold off on an independent attack until after the U.S. elections.

Obama may soon publicly describe the "red lines" which, if crossed by Iran, would trigger a U.S. military response.

Maariv speculates this could happen when he gives a speech at the UN on Yom Kippur eve, or even in his speech at the Democratic National Convention.

These steps may mollify Netanyahu, and could be the reason for his apparently less forceful statements on Iran in the past two days.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
At a meeting of his Yisrael Beiteinu party, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Tuesday that a nuclear armed Iran would precipitate a nuclear arms race in the entire Middle East.

“If Iran achieves nuclear capability, it will be the end of all agreements on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. The direct result would be a wild race to arm the entire Middle East with nuclear weapons.”

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
The United States may supply Israel with advanced Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bunker-buster bombs that can penetrate through up to 60 feet (almost 20 meters) of reinforced concrete, reports Maariv Tuesday.

This is part of a deal being worked out between the countries, which also includes the supply of refueling jets.

In exchange for the weapons, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will agree to hold off on an independent attack until after the U.S. elections.

Obama may soon publicly describe the "red lines" which, if crossed by Iran, would trigger a U.S. military response.

Maariv speculates this could happen when he gives a speech at the UN on Yom Kippur eve, or even in his speech at the Democratic National Convention.

These steps may mollify Netanyahu, and could be the reason for his apparently less forceful statements on Iran in the past two days.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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USA will not help Israel ATTACK Iran , no , USA will DEFEND Israel the microsecond after Iran Responds to the Israel attack !! Dempsy , Dempsy , you lil deceiver ....
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
From the Times of Israel:

"The Iranians are almost there. This is how they did it."

Enrichment is accelerating, the warhead is taking shape, a nuclear trigger is deep in development, and the Shahab-3 missile has Israel in range and can detonate in an airburst 600 meters above ground — just like the atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]
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Much thanks for pin!!
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
The Israeli Security Cabinet held a special meeting on the Iranian threat Tuesday night.

"The information presented to the Cabinet was very disturbing, but it wasn’t too daunting," a senior official who participated in the meeting told Ynet.

No operational decisions were made during the meeting.

Cabinet members, however, seem to disagree on when exactly it could be determined that Iran's nuclear program has reached the zone of immunity – although it is clear that the Iranians are not only vigorously pursuing nuclear endeavors, but are also making sure to "clear up their tracks."

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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After pushing Israel from Iran strike, Obama is suddenly OK with Netanyahu

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
I doubt that, even with these "concessions", Israel will wait until after the elections.

Fear is a powerful motivator, and Israel has much to fear from the Iranian government.
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

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These steps may mollify Netanyahu, and could be the reason for his apparently less forceful statements on Iran in the past two days.

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kitty Oh yea, and I can just see Obama keeping his promises after election day.
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There is a growing American assessment that Israel will not attack Iranian nuclear facilities before the U.S. presidential elections on November 6.

U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, who visited Israel last week, told a breakfast panel at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida on Tuesday that he believes the Israeli government is likely to wait until after the elections.

Rogers said that after his trip, during which he met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he’d been left with “no doubt in my mind” that the U.S. election cycle was part of Israel’s calculations. Asked why he thought Israel would wait, Rogers said, “Because I think they believe that maybe after the election they can talk the United States into cooperating.”

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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I doubt that, even with these "concessions", Israel will wait until after the elections.

Fear is a powerful motivator, and Israel has much to fear from the Iranian government.
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Yeah but on the other side I wonder how effective would an Israeli strike be on those heavily fortified bunkers without special bunker buster bombs and without refueling jets !

Remember, IDF jets have to travel almost 2000 KM to strike Iran and come back to Israel...that is beyond what the F15s and F16s can do from what I know, so refueling air tankers are a must !
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
The United States may supply Israel with advanced Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bunker-buster bombs that can penetrate through up to 60 feet (almost 20 meters) of reinforced concrete, reports Maariv Tuesday.

This is part of a deal being worked out between the countries, which also includes the supply of refueling jets.

In exchange for the weapons, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will agree to hold off on an independent attack until after the U.S. elections.

Obama may soon publicly describe the "red lines" which, if crossed by Iran, would trigger a U.S. military response.

Maariv speculates this could happen when he gives a speech at the UN on Yom Kippur eve, or even in his speech at the Democratic National Convention.

These steps may mollify Netanyahu, and could be the reason for his apparently less forceful statements on Iran in the past two days.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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this is all total BS
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
What is BS is the Debka link as they are always making shit up and then it doesnt happen. Israel will wait, but they have waited so long now that it may be too late already.
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
These steps may mollify Netanyahu, and could be the reason for his apparently less forceful statements on Iran in the past two days.

 Quoting: DoorBert


kitty Oh yea, and I can just see Obama keeping his promises after election day.
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Yeah, that's the thing that worries me the most...will Obama keep his promise and supply the hardware after the elections !?grumpy2
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"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
It's all absolute bollocks as you cannot believe one word of it.

So called 'unnamed government officials' and the like, continuously leaking critical information???
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
This was discussed at the beginning of this year
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I doubt that, even with these "concessions", Israel will wait until after the elections.
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Or they do it literally the day after lol.
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
Israeli army names new operations chief, in move seen as signaling reduced likelihood of Iran attack

You don’t appoint a brand new operations chief when you’re about to go to war,’ says military analyst

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]

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I doubt that, even with these "concessions", Israel will wait until after the elections.
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Or they do it literally the day after lol.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
Israeli army names new operations chief, in move seen as signaling reduced likelihood of Iran attack

You don’t appoint a brand new operations chief when you’re about to go to war,’ says military analyst

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]

DOOM OFF grumpy2
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I feel sorry for your girlfriend DL ! With all this doom canceled she's bound to suffer...tounge

peace
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Israeli army names new operations chief, in move seen as signaling reduced likelihood of Iran attack

You don’t appoint a brand new operations chief when you’re about to go to war,’ says military analyst

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]

DOOM OFF grumpy2
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I feel sorry for your girlfriend DL ! With all this doom canceled she's bound to suffer...tounge

peace
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Going to give her a bunch of mushroom stamps with my baby's arm and a good consensual raping due to lack of DOOM. Thanks Obama...

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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
I doubt that, even with these "concessions", Israel will wait until after the elections.

Fear is a powerful motivator, and Israel has much to fear from the Iranian government.
 Quoting: Sledster


Yeah but on the other side I wonder how effective would an Israeli strike be on those heavily fortified bunkers without special bunker buster bombs and without refueling jets !

Remember, IDF jets have to travel almost 2000 KM to strike Iran and come back to Israel...that is beyond what the F15s and F16s can do from what I know, so refueling air tankers are a must !
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Story smells of BS.

The MOP weighs 14 tons. I haven't looked too in-depth into it, but I seriously doubt there's any IAF jet that can take off with a huge 14 ton bomb. The US plans to use B-52s and B-2s to carry the MOP. Israel doesn't have any.
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
Haven't they already got bunker buster bombs a year ago or so? There was something in the news a while ago as far as I remember.
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
After pushing Israel from Iran strike, Obama is suddenly OK with Netanyahu

[link to www.haaretz.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


you cant trust obuma
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OBAMA LIES......... never forget that Bini..........watch your back
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
Massive Ordnance Penetrator.. oi, just what the world needs, more nukes for Israel. :facepalm:
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Re: JUST-IN: Israel Cuts Deal with US to Hold Off Iran Attack Until After Elections, Exchange for Massive Bunker Busters & Refueling Jets
But there isn't going to be an election???
This is misdirection if the source is actually true...

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